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Topic: Is technical analysis negatively affecting cryptocurrencies? - page 3. (Read 1309 times)

legendary
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Regarding your first point: I don't think I have contradicted myself, I may just not have sufficiently explained what I mean: There is no scientific proof, that the underlying principles of TA work for any other reason than the widespread belief that it works, meaning that it is a self-fulfilling prophecy and similar patterns would not form if they were not believed in by a large group of people, making them completely independent of the underlying economics.

there is no proof that TA is a self-fulfilling prophecy. people always say that, but we have no idea how many people are following TA (and remember, everyone's TA is different too). we really have zero clue whether TA could change the outcome of markets.

and these traders can't be independent of the underlying economics---they just add liquidity to existing supply and demand. they might alter supply and demand, but why would we assume they negate it entirely?

I absolutely think so. However, those fundamentals are time discrete. I cannot decide to do an analysis of the fundamentals right now, I can just analyze news coming out. That's opposed to traditional markets, where I can analyze fundamentals at any given time. i'm not saying this is bad, but it definitely powers volatility and TA.

this makes markets more speculative and volatile. but i see no reason why TA is "running the market" so to speak. TA is merely a method to analyze the underlying supply and demand. it's completely secondary to the actual economy.

Regarding your last point I just wanted to throw in, that this exact same argument was the favorite argument of High Frequency Traders in traditional markets:
"We are not damaging the market, we are just supplying liquidity".
Turns out that was not the entire truth.

there's a difference between "liquidity" and "extremely leveraged liquidity". market depth is good because it dampens volatility and reduces slippage. but if the source of said market depth is massive leverage, that will enable black swan events that can cause cascading liquidations and extreme volatility.

it's not traders that are the root cause of this, but financialization.
sr. member
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Yes, it is affecting because; People believe technical analysis and they listen to analysis and when we can check youtube we will see there are more analysis for cryptocurrencies and people watch them if the analysis was negatively it is not good because investors will not invest to cryptocurrencies and it is bad for all market.
I dont know what kind of analysis is that for a Hero Member. Dude are you sure on the things that you have said? How come a technical analysis would able to
affect majority of people who do sees it? I dont know how its done but we do have our own analysis and stuff and if we decide to follow someone then
it wont really be the reason to affect the market majorly.
full member
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I have to say upfront that I'm no fan of technical analysis, even in traditional asset markets. There are 2 main reasons for this:
1) There is no scientific proof that technical analysis works at all. The only correlation between technical analysis and true market movements is that it is widely believed. And this leads to the next point
2) TA is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If people stopped believing in it, it would stop working right away. If people find new patterns they only start actually working once they get enough traction for other people to believe in them.

This is somewhat of a problem in traditional assets, but it is just a minor nuisance. The fundamental values of traditional assets always strike back, no matter what TA says. Found resistance? Doesn't matter if the underlying value shoots way up due to increasing sales, usage or whatever. Glad a value has some support? Doesn't matter if sales drop to near-zero, the price does not care about support.

At cryptocurrencies, however, those fundamental values don't work as there are rarely any. Most companies behind cryptocurrencies either have no product that is close to justifying their volume and value. Some of them (Bitcoin amongst them) do not even want to have one. Therefore they are subject to constant influence by those religiously believing in TA, which makes them an object of pure speculation. The fundamental values are "news", no matter the level of reliance.

In my opinion, this holds cryptocurrencies from being a usable and reliable method for everyday transaction use.

What is your view on this?

I guess it only depends on how the analysis is done and how it will be shared to the public. I cannot tell whether it has a negative effect or it will give positive feedback to investors. I just presume that it only depends on how people understand the technical analysis that is done and shared.
hero member
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Yes, it is affecting because; People believe technical analysis and they listen to analysis and when we can check youtube we will see there are more analysis for cryptocurrencies and people watch them if the analysis was negatively it is not good because investors will not invest to cryptocurrencies and it is bad for all market.
newbie
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Too much technical analysis is happening recently as the blockchain and cryptocurrency is all new and engineered processing and the sole purpose of its being is hampered and people are more reluctant than ever to accept crypto as their side currency let alone main currency. As we are too busy finding faults with cryptocurrency we are never too much eager to put it even on the reality to see what is going wrong here; we are so into the negativity regarding crypto that, we do not even consider it. New things must have faults but we should let them shine if they really have the potential they proposed they have.
newbie
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Looks like graphical analysis is not doing any good to the market. It's sure that the experts are trying hard but sometimes it may not just work.
newbie
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It seems to me too that technical analysis are like a astrology for traders and it effects the market in a negative way as it nothing but chaos in rough times.
newbie
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In all honesty, no researchers or proper analytics have ever measured volatility precisely. Both the negative or positive speculative reports have olnly affected the market.
sr. member
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Technical analysis does not negatively affecting cryptocurrency , technical analysis can greatly help and improve the promotions of the cryptocurrency so that it will be successful for its launching and promotions.
Even though I don't believe in technical analysis of anything by these so called experts, there are those who believe and I think depending on what these analysts bring forth, it affects the marker either positively or negatively.
member
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Technical analysis does not negatively affecting cryptocurrency , technical analysis can greatly help and improve the promotions of the cryptocurrency so that it will be successful for its launching and promotions.
full member
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A lot of people over the years have ended up condemning TA one way or the other, for some reasons best known to them, but like you said it, Technical analyses are just patterns in the market in which traders look for and no matter what, as long as we get to have institutions in play in most markets, all these patterns will always have a role to play in terms of resistance and support, call it whatever you want to call it.

This however is not what has brought about speculation as that is just something basically on its own, and the only thing that can help out of that is to at least get to see some real life usage which would bring about sustainable demand and less of speculation, but trust mate, speculation is something that will always be part of a market, take it or leave it!

The analytics of our investment are very important to get better than the normal so many of us need to do that and it will definitely be a good way to achieve something.
legendary
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A lot of people over the years have ended up condemning TA one way or the other, for some reasons best known to them, but like you said it, Technical analyses are just patterns in the market in which traders look for and no matter what, as long as we get to have institutions in play in most markets, all these patterns will always have a role to play in terms of resistance and support, call it whatever you want to call it.

This however is not what has brought about speculation as that is just something basically on its own, and the only thing that can help out of that is to at least get to see some real life usage which would bring about sustainable demand and less of speculation, but trust mate, speculation is something that will always be part of a market, take it or leave it!
hero member
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I doubt it, technical analysis is what bitcoin looks like its doing, something that shows what it is doing can't affect what it is doing.  It is after the fact so it can't be really damaging the before the fact at the same time.

Hence I believe technical analysis not only not damaging cryptocurrencies but it also helps a lot.

There are a lot of times whales do crazy stuff in the crypto world and we see many times when bitcoin should go up but kept under by bigger players and thanks to technical analysis we know that the price is not going down because of a problem but because of the whales.

It also helps us to know when it looks like it is legitimately going down and not manipulated, if you compare what price "suppose to" do and what it is doing sometimes they collide which is the normal one and sometimes they don't and than you know someone is tampering with the price.
member
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In my opinion is yes. Because technical analysis in this market is quite effective. We should say it is a whale psychological analysis. I have some people who specialize in data analysis and make the rules for effective trading very accurately. But it does not last long for 2 weeks so they have to work often to find out the principles of the market.
newbie
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Technical analysis may in some points help crypto but in most cases it is still adding to the speculation and volatality as other forms of news also effect it. Looking into investing into any sort of market it is important to stick to facts rather than rely on analysis or speculations as they aren't accurate. Doing a little research and being cautious with investments goes a long way.
brand new
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For the volatile nature of crypto, the technical analysis might not work always. It might also create a bad impact cause its analysis might show the loss calculating the current market. But crypto is volatile in nature, it can't be calculated and predicted that easily.
jr. member
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According to technical analyzes conducted by Chainalysis, “whales” not only do not have a negative impact on the volatility of the crypto market, but, on the contrary, serve as its stabilizing factor.

They believe that only a third of the “whales” are active traders, and basically they go against the general movement and buy assets at lower prices.

And they stabilize the situation in the falls.
Ucy
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Complex Technical analysis never really worked for me. It is yet to be proven if TA tools work or not.
Some work a little. especially the less complicated patterns but they are never consistent. They help make things clearer which is their obvious advantage.

Better to just stick with simplest patterns that most exchanges provide.
brand new
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Analysis and news have mixed influence on crypto market. They have impact by quiet some extent on the market price. People seem to believe in these; thats why they are affecting the market.
member
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Well! You do have a lot of points put together I must say. One thing actually is that TA, not just in cryptocurrency, but like you said in other traditional assets have become a norm one way or the other, and people obviously get to believe in any patterns that would possibly work out for them and because of that, they all think in the same direction based on their knowledge, and that is TA, which I do not see as the problem here.
 
It is a market, and when it comes to speculation or technical analysis, there is absolutely nothing we can do about it, as they are all part of the market which is why up till now even stock market is not beyond speculation. What we should just be looking at is that, instead of having just a speculated asset in our hands, real life usage will at least bring some sanity to it, and I do not see TA being the problem here, it is just for traders who are trying to make a living and looking for patterns from the market fluctuations.
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