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Topic: Is the Binance the next to bite the dust or FUD? - page 10. (Read 2224 times)

sr. member
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Am I the only one who'd like to see Binance disappear? They've scammed users, and they're pretending all kinds of centralized made-up tokens are "Bitcoin" to increase their own wealth. Bitcoin and Bitcoin users are better off without Binance.
We all may want it, and will it be regular or random? Based on Proof of Reserves, Binaance owns 250,597 bitcoins, which is four times what happened when Luna crashed, not to mention the impact of the platform and its investments, which means that the impact on the price will continue for several years, not months.

supporting competitors and having strong competition is the solution.
legendary
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Later, the exchange distributed the funds to a trading firm, Cumberland, Amber Group, Alameda Research, and TRON founder Justin Sun.
So, literally the exact same shit which caused FTX, Celsius, Voyager, BlockFi, and more to go bankrupt? Customers deposit money, exchange takes that money and trades/gambles/loans it for their own profit. So absolutely not "too big to fail", and like every other centralized exchange, running a fractional reserve system and a single bank run away from insolvency.

Also hilarious that on the surface Binance and CZ bleat on about their provably useless pRoOf Of ReSeRvEs, and under the surface they have a completely uncollaterized "stable" coin with a deficit of almost $4 billion. And by the way, who in their right mind is using a token pegged to a stablecoin pegged to a rapidly inflationary fiat currency!? I-heard-you-like-third-parties-so-I-put-a-third-party-in-your-third-party-meme.jpg

Am I the only one who'd like to see Binance disappear?
Here's hoping. They've been trying to centralized the entire space around them for some time, and they outright lie and scam to their users constantly.
hero member
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The Martian Child
I am not even a big fan of Changpeng Zhao but there are too many companies and people in the media industry that are one-sided, influenced, opportunists, and bribed. Sam Bankman-Fried and his family are very influential and indebted to a lot of companies, wealthy people, and politicians. No wonder he is now imprisoned in a family mansion with a swimming pool. CZ sunk FTX but there was a valid reason behind its withdrawals and it also has the right to do so. I don't think Binance will follow FTX's route. Not this time.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Can you remember CZ wanted to rollback a BTC transaction when his exchange lost around 7k BTC to hacker? I hate him since then. He wants centralization power, he wants to rule crypto.
The good thing is: he can't rule Bitcoin. But the bad thing is, he can trick many people into believing his BS. I really don't get it: so many people nowadays act as if online billionairs are their friends, while the rich guy's actions aren't in your interest.
legendary
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Am I the only one who'd like to see Binance disappear?
Of course not you are the only one. Count me in. I have been deceived by them on referral issue. Besides, I don't like CZ monopoly moves. Can you remember CZ wanted to rollback a BTC transaction when his exchange lost around 7k BTC to hacker? I hate him since then. He wants centralization power, he wants to rule crypto. I hate him and so does Binance.
legendary
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I know as do many here on the forum that Binance is not completely honest, they have had some shady moves in the past and still, there have been members who are skeptical about CZ's intentions to swallow the market entirely.

But despite all that, I'm not happy with the US government's attempt to bring Binance down. I think their goal is beyond that. They are seeking to completely hit Crypto, I guess. They are following Binance's mistakes aggressively because they know that hitting it will be a very painful blow to Crypto.

Some are happy with what is happening to Binance because they think it will reduce the centralization in Crypto that Binance is trying to create by controlling the market, but at the same time I fear that hitting Binance will be like an earthquake in the Crypto market.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Am I the only one who'd like to see Binance disappear? They've scammed users, and they're pretending all kinds of centralized made-up tokens are "Bitcoin" to increase their own wealth. Bitcoin and Bitcoin users are better off without Binance.
legendary
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For the skeptical me, this paywalled article appears for me that American media has begun to publish the first stage of their after FTX fud campaign against CZ and Binance hehehe. The next stage might be during the trial of Sam later this year where some witnesses will be put on the stand to speak about what CZ did on FTT without giving the whole information on why CZ liquidated their position on FTT.
There's been a lot of attack on Binance since FTX downfall so I definitely see this scenario plausible. Either way, anyone who still has money on any exchange after everything that has happened is playing a dangerous game.
Since Bloomberg article is paywalled, here is the archived version.


I think binance is a serious exchange and they won't go down easily. FTX was a clown since the beginning. I've never ever created an account at FTX and the moment I heard people talking about FTX, I was like wtf "where did this thing come from?"
Just because you never used FTX doesn't mean that others didn't. FTX was being mentioned quite often here on bitcointalk, people liked "no withdrawal fees and no KYC approach" and it was even dubbed as a "new Binance". After all, if many people didn't use FTX, it wouldn't have such an impact on the market.

Regarding this "where did they come from", Binance also kinda came out of nowhere back in mid 2017 and just 6 months later they were already the exchange with the biggest volume so when FTX showed up, their  growth was nothing that we haven't seen seen before.


Binance on the other hand has real users. Real trades happen there. So it is not one of those wash trading exchanges.
All exchanges do that to some degree. Some more, some less, but I don't believe reported numbers one bit even if it comes from Binance or Coinbase.
legendary
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The only thing I'm really expecting is some price activity with BUSD going down (slightly, being a stablecoin after all) after the SEC ordered Paxos to stop minting it.

BTW, am I the only one surprised that Binance was not minting their own stablecoin all this time?
legendary
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I think binance is a serious exchange and they won't go down easily. FTX was a clown since the beginning. I've never ever created an account at FTX and the moment I heard people talking about FTX, I was like wtf "where did this thing come from?" If it was something decent I would have heard of it. Same thing goes to crypto.com. I haven't heard of anybody using their services but I see now outside of this forum that they are kind of big. FTX was like crypto.com too and It wasn't a coincidence that crypto.com was targeted right after FTX. It is because they are pretty similarly shitty.

Binance on the other hand has real users. Real trades happen there. So it is not one of those wash trading exchanges.

May it go down? Sure. However there are other exchanges that should go down first.
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legendary
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The next stage might be during the trial of Sam later this year where some witnesses will be put on the stand to speak about what CZ did on FTT without giving the whole information on why CZ liquidated their position on FTT.

Is CZ/Binance even required to disclose why they liquidated their FTT position? They're investors in the FTT token, and they have every right to sell it as long as it's already vested (which it already was) without the need to disclose the reason as Binance is a private company anyway.
legendary
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For the skeptical me, this paywalled article appears for me that American media has begun to publish the first stage of their after FTX fud campaign against CZ and Binance hehehe. The next stage might be during the trial of Sam later this year where some witnesses will be put on the stand to speak about what CZ did on FTT without giving the whole information on why CZ liquidated their position on FTT.



Binance’s Asset Shuffling Eerily Similar To Maneuvers By FTX

When you’re the world’s largest crypto exchange in a largely unregulated market, it is easy to make up the rules as you go. In its latest backroom maneuver, Binance transferred $1.8 billion in stablecoin collateral to hedge funds, including Alameda and Cumberland/DRW, leaving its other investors exposed.


Source https://www.forbes.com/sites/javierpaz/2023/02/27/binances-asset-shuffling-eerily-similar-to-maneuvers-by-ftx/



However, this article with more information makes me shake my head. Is this media attack by Forbes real or fud?



Forbes, yet again, investigated the on-chain activities of Binance and discovered that the exchange transferred $1.78 billion in users’ funds to various hedge funds. The article reveals that the Changpeng Zhao-led exchange completely emptied its collateral for B-peg USDC without reducing its supply.

Binance issues a B-token to facilitate the usage of other blockchain tokens in the BNB chain. The exchange is supposed to issue B-token only after storing 100% collateral of the original token. For example, for every 100 B-USDC, it must have 100 USDC as collateral.

However, the exchange broke its rules on Aug. 17, withdrawing $3.63 billion from its peg wallet to the “Binance 8” cold wallet. It then returned $1.85 billion to the peg wallet but transferred the remaining $1.78 billion to a Binance 14 cold wallet. Later, the exchange distributed the funds to a trading firm, Cumberland, Amber Group, Alameda Research, and TRON founder Justin Sun.

When Binance withdrew $1.78 billion USDC on Aug. 17, it did not decrease the supply of the B-USDC. The collateral fell to zero, and the exchange did not correct it for four months.

The article also states that B-USDC was deficient by over $1 billion on three different occasions. Forbes believes Binance is misusing customers’ funds, similar to the bankrupt exchange FTX.


Source https://beincrypto.com/binance-misusing-customers-funds/
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