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November 04, 2024, 10:42:58 AM
#87
This is becoming more serious and personal than I thought. While is the Libyan so much pained with the punishment that has been served to them. They deserve every bit of what the Confederation of African football has said concerning them which must not go unpunished. If they actually was claiming what they did wasn’t intentional. I think with the way things are going and how they’re acting towards it, says it all that it was indeed an intentional act. We might see this turn to war. Football was meant to united people no matter their belief, color, etc. I just pray this Libyan madness doesn’t change that aspect of football.
If CAF find out they are really taking this too far then they should ban them from football entirely
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November 04, 2024, 10:04:26 AM
#86
I’m creating this trend to discuss the importance of the AFCON and the countries involved. Considering what is really going on with Nigeria and Libya. It’s obvious the CAF aren’t taking accurate measures towards the welfare of this countries and it’s players. Considering how football unites different categories of people and the fun is enjoyable . Without taking full responsibilities and measures could see countries clashing with each other as a result of ignorance of the CAF.

Let’s discuss the issues at hand and also outline the solutions to each problems.
Before this turns from being fun to bringing conflict.
Let’s keep the fun going
This is an issue I've come across but yet to get the full details of what actually transpired between the Nigerian super eagles and the players of Libya.
I am just coming across this thread for the first time today and I did be happy to find more details of this incident here, so, I will be following from now one, and possibly go back to comments from other users to try to find out the real issue, since I believe that commenting on the issue, or even profering solution to sometime I am not very certain about, can lead me to being biased in my judgment, and this is something I don't want to be..

Anyways, thanks for bringing up this issue here, it's an interesting one worth discussing about.
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November 04, 2024, 09:57:05 AM
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Without being biased as a Nigerian, I think that CAF has done well in delivering their judgement against Libya, for the poor and humiliating attitude and reception that they showed to the Nigerian super eagles. The judgement should serve as a deterant to any country that plans to disrespect the teams of other countries in African football. Visitors deserve to be treated with utmost respect, not like aliens who have no business being in their country.

If the stories that I'm reading on social media is true that Nigerians are being arrested in Libya, because of the CAF judgement, then it speaks a lot about how Libyans treats foreigners in their country. I hope that the Nigerian government will take proactive steps to caution the Libyan government about the ill treatment of it's citizens. Football should unit us rather than creating conflicts and crisis.
CAF sanction on Libya because of the ill and very deadly treatment to they gave to the Super Eagles when the Nigeria national team visited the country for an AFCON qualifying game last month was adequate and fair enough. The Libyan football federation went to low on their reported revenge for what they also termed poor treatment from the NFF when they first came to Nigeria because they risked the life of the Super Eagles players.
For the report that the Libyan government is arresting Nigerians, I don't think it's related to what recently happened in the qualifying games rather the arrests were made against Nigerians that were illegally trying to enter European countries through the Mediterranean sea.
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November 04, 2024, 09:20:55 AM
#84
Without being biased as a Nigerian, I think that CAF has done well in delivering their judgement against Libya, for the poor and humiliating attitude and reception that they showed to the Nigerian super eagles. The judgement should serve as a deterant to any country that plans to disrespect the teams of other countries in African football. Visitors deserve to be treated with utmost respect, not like aliens who have no business being in their country.
if not that in Africa, we're used to assuming that most decisions are being politicised, there's nothing wrong with the decision of CAF against Libya in trying to ensure that such an act is never allowed to repeat itself again. Have we ever witnessed this kind of occurrence in the European football where the national team of a country is being disrespected in the manner the super eagles went through? The only issue with this judgement is that the super eagles would have faced similar sanction if it's ever found that the Libya plane that landed in port Harcourt instead of akwa ibom was a deliberately carried out. Even if the super eagles maltreated then as they claimed, there are better ways they would have used in responding to that kind of aligation other Trying to pay back in a manner that has the potential of costing the lives of the players.
If the stories that I'm reading on social media is true that Nigerians are being arrested in Libya, because of the CAF judgement, then it speaks a lot about how Libyans treats foreigners in their country. I hope that the Nigerian government will take proactive steps to caution the Libyan government about the ill treatment of it's citizens. Football should unit us rather than creating conflicts and crisis.
is like the sanction from CAF isn't enough for them. Let them continue this way untill it becomes something that involves FIFA or even the united nations and they get more sanctions that will make there country that's already void of leaders go into a worse form. What they tend to forget is that Nigeria has one of the largest media presence globally, if the attack on Nigerians continues, it wouldn't take a week of bombardment of all media outlet by Nigerians which will result in them facing a sanction of a bigger body than CAF.
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November 04, 2024, 06:49:10 AM
#83
Without being biased as a Nigerian, I think that CAF has done well in delivering their judgement against Libya, for the poor and humiliating attitude and reception that they showed to the Nigerian super eagles. The judgement should serve as a deterant to any country that plans to disrespect the teams of other countries in African football. Visitors deserve to be treated with utmost respect, not like aliens who have no business being in their country.

If the stories that I'm reading on social media is true that Nigerians are being arrested in Libya, because of the CAF judgement, then it speaks a lot about how Libyans treats foreigners in their country. I hope that the Nigerian government will take proactive steps to caution the Libyan government about the ill treatment of it's citizens. Football should unit us rather than creating conflicts and crisis.
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November 04, 2024, 06:23:21 AM
#82

I know about this not quite long ago when I saw it on Punch about how Libya has started arresting Nigerians in their country. I think Libya is taken this far and too serious. If Confederation of African Football did not declare Nigeria as the winner, Libya does not have any chance to get qualified. They have just 1 point and they are the worst on the group D.
They already took the whole thing personal when they decided to treat the super eagles unfair while been stuck in the libya airport for hours. My problem now is their non chalant attitude of going against the terms and punishment served to them by the CAF committee.. what has Nigerians doing in Nigeria got to do with their football conflicts.. seriously to me I dislikes theses Islamic countries with their different and wring psychology in simple matter. They take things too far. They have no choice but to pay the fine and accept the defeat as well.. I just hope they don't end up hurting more Nigerans living there
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November 04, 2024, 05:33:22 AM
#81
I’m creating this trend to discuss the importance of the AFCON and the countries involved. Considering what is really going on with Nigeria and Libya. It’s obvious the CAF aren’t taking accurate measures towards the welfare of this countries and it’s players. Considering how football unites different categories of people and the fun is enjoyable . Without taking full responsibilities and measures could see countries clashing with each other as a result of ignorance of the CAF.

Let’s discuss the issues at hand and also outline the solutions to each problems.
Before this turns from being fun to bringing conflict.
Let’s keep the fun going
As I know, CAF has never really gone beyond just fining clubs and teams when issues happens, and that’s part of the problem In My Opinion. It’s disappointing because football has the power to unite people not the opposite, but when CAF doesn’t step up with real and impactful actions which something that risks creating more tension than unity.
What is happening with Nigeria and Libya is a new example of how neglecting the side of players and countries which can lead to bigger problems. If CAF doesn’t take full responsibility then implement proper measures, it could escalate into something worse for long periods between two countries.
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November 04, 2024, 04:56:09 AM
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We are hopefully going to the qualifying stage
Not hopefully but definitely. Even with one match not played, we are 1 point ahead of Benin Republic and 2 points ahead of Rwanda. I just think that we are the best in group D. I do not think Benin Republic will be able to win us in their country and also Rwanda will not likely win us in our country. With 3 points added, it is definitely and not hopefully.
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November 04, 2024, 04:02:46 AM
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I wonder why no one is talking about the recently delivered CAF's verdict on the Nigeria/Libya episode despite having a good argument shortly after Libya's ignoble act against the Nigerian team.

I was happy yesterday when I read from various news outlets that Libya was heavily sanctioned by the CAF. The football body automatically awarded 3 goals and 3 points to the Nigerian team for the match they did not play (Libya 0 - Nigeria 3). Not only that, Libya was also fined $50,000 for this ugly act. This is what I call justice!

https://x.com/NigeriaStories/status/1850161919262437582



I know about this not quite long ago when I saw it on Punch about how Libya has started arresting Nigerians in their country. I think Libya is taken this far and too serious. If Confederation of African Football did not declare Nigeria as the winner, Libya does not have any chance to get qualified. They have just 1 point and they are the worst on the group D.

At least they came to Nigeria, although they were disappointed but they played, unlike how they waste our player's time in their country without playing. What I have thought about it before was that Libya is not serious because they know they are losers. If they are the first or the second on the table, they will not joke with the remaining qualification matches at all but play the match.

Libya think that the decision was greatly influenced by Nigeria Football Federation, but they do not look at their own mistakes. They have now started to arrest Nigerians in their country. Indicating that Nigerians will be the ones that will pay the fine.

Campaign against Nigerians in Libya

Following the CAF ruling, a popular Libyan news blog, Libya News Today 1, posted on Sunday, stating, “All Libyan TV channels are urging the government to arrest the Nigerian workers who are working here in Libya without legal papers. They have to pay $500 plus taxes.

“The fine that Libya is accused of will be paid by Nigerian citizens who live in Libya. We have been subjected to injustice. We have no borders with Nigeria. What benefit are they to us? They’re a burden on the Libyan people. They have to go back home.”

The blog has more than 188,000 followers on Facebook and 57,000 likes.

The post was accompanied by a video of a Libyan TV presenter, who said, “Anyone who is living in Libya and working without paying tax is eating haram, which means sinful money. The government should make every effort to arrest all Nigerians who are working in Libya so that they can pay a tax of $500 and regulate their stay in the country by obtaining residence permits.”

Another Libyan site, Libya INF.TV, reported that Libyan stations wanted the government to start arresting Nigerian workers.

“Those who don’t have Libyan papers will have to pay a fine of $500 for taxes. If you refuse deportation, no mercy. The Libyan government will pay the Nigerian government from their citizens’ money,” the post said.


Mass arrests of Nigerians in Libya

Speaking with Sunday PUNCH, a Nigerian living in Tripoli, the Libyan capital, Adenaike Emmanuel, said the arrests began on Sunday after the CAF statement was released in the country.

“They have already started. The news came out on Saturday, and they were saying they can’t accept it and that they are not the ones who will pay the money. They have started proving this.

“Someone called me and said they had already begun arresting people in his area. The same thing is happening here in Tripoli. In some places, people were arrested on Sunday morning and afternoon. As I mentioned before, Libyans don’t hide their feelings. They believe that by doing this, they are getting their revenge,” Adenaike stated.

I do not think it should get to this point. Libya took this too personal, and which is not called for or good.
What do you expect from a war zone, a country that was practically brought down by same Libyans against themselves, so for them to treat Nigerians in an inhuman manners is not a big deal for them, the CAF judgement that awards a 3:0 winning to Nigeria team and also asked them to pay such an amount in fine were linean on the Libyan government, but no, they choose to arrest Nigerian extort them and get the money from them indirectly to pay the fine, I know their will play politics with this whole issue, but at the end we are going to see a more possible sanction if they failed to pay the fine within the stipulated amount of time.


We are hopefully going to the qualifying stage and possibly represent Africa, and hopefully countries like Libyan are made to face the right judgment and suspension, since they have practically violated the rules of the games, and possibly also won't be ready to comply with the CAF decision.
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November 03, 2024, 05:47:34 AM
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I wonder why no one is talking about the recently delivered CAF's verdict on the Nigeria/Libya episode despite having a good argument shortly after Libya's ignoble act against the Nigerian team.

I was happy yesterday when I read from various news outlets that Libya was heavily sanctioned by the CAF. The football body automatically awarded 3 goals and 3 points to the Nigerian team for the match they did not play (Libya 0 - Nigeria 3). Not only that, Libya was also fined $50,000 for this ugly act. This is what I call justice!

https://x.com/NigeriaStories/status/1850161919262437582



I know about this not quite long ago when I saw it on Punch about how Libya has started arresting Nigerians in their country. I think Libya is taken this far and too serious. If Confederation of African Football did not declare Nigeria as the winner, Libya does not have any chance to get qualified. They have just 1 point and they are the worst on the group D.

At least they came to Nigeria, although they were disappointed but they played, unlike how they waste our player's time in their country without playing. What I have thought about it before was that Libya is not serious because they know they are losers. If they are the first or the second on the table, they will not joke with the remaining qualification matches at all but play the match.

Libya think that the decision was greatly influenced by Nigeria Football Federation, but they do not look at their own mistakes. They have now started to arrest Nigerians in their country. Indicating that Nigerians will be the ones that will pay the fine.

Campaign against Nigerians in Libya

Following the CAF ruling, a popular Libyan news blog, Libya News Today 1, posted on Sunday, stating, “All Libyan TV channels are urging the government to arrest the Nigerian workers who are working here in Libya without legal papers. They have to pay $500 plus taxes.

“The fine that Libya is accused of will be paid by Nigerian citizens who live in Libya. We have been subjected to injustice. We have no borders with Nigeria. What benefit are they to us? They’re a burden on the Libyan people. They have to go back home.”

The blog has more than 188,000 followers on Facebook and 57,000 likes.

The post was accompanied by a video of a Libyan TV presenter, who said, “Anyone who is living in Libya and working without paying tax is eating haram, which means sinful money. The government should make every effort to arrest all Nigerians who are working in Libya so that they can pay a tax of $500 and regulate their stay in the country by obtaining residence permits.”

Another Libyan site, Libya INF.TV, reported that Libyan stations wanted the government to start arresting Nigerian workers.

“Those who don’t have Libyan papers will have to pay a fine of $500 for taxes. If you refuse deportation, no mercy. The Libyan government will pay the Nigerian government from their citizens’ money,” the post said.


Mass arrests of Nigerians in Libya

Speaking with Sunday PUNCH, a Nigerian living in Tripoli, the Libyan capital, Adenaike Emmanuel, said the arrests began on Sunday after the CAF statement was released in the country.

“They have already started. The news came out on Saturday, and they were saying they can’t accept it and that they are not the ones who will pay the money. They have started proving this.

“Someone called me and said they had already begun arresting people in his area. The same thing is happening here in Tripoli. In some places, people were arrested on Sunday morning and afternoon. As I mentioned before, Libyans don’t hide their feelings. They believe that by doing this, they are getting their revenge,” Adenaike stated.

I do not think it should get to this point. Libya took this too personal, and which is not called for or good.
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October 27, 2024, 11:34:31 PM
#77
I wonder why no one is talking about the recently delivered CAF's verdict on the Nigeria/Libya episode despite having a good argument shortly after Libya's ignoble act against the Nigerian team.

I was happy yesterday when I read from various news outlets that Libya was heavily sanctioned by the CAF. The football body automatically awarded 3 goals and 3 points to the Nigerian team for the match they did not play (Libya 0 - Nigeria 3). Not only that, Libya was also fined $50,000 for this ugly act. This is what I call justice!

https://x.com/NigeriaStories/status/1850161919262437582





This is indeed a fair judgment from the CAF board. I mean it was so obvious that the Libyan were so intentional towards act against the Nigerian team. Serves them right and with this I strongly believe other countries will learn and take caution.
No one should spoil the fun that football brings and also the love and unity.
The CAF not just passing judgement but should also take responsibilities to ensure they have a better review of any country hosting another to ensure everything is in order to avoid such incidents from happening again.
Also Nigeria should know that if they in any way fall victim of such act especially now that other countries will be envious of them and the Libyan will also look out for any given opportunity to point out any mistakes the Nigeria team will make. It’s going to be Nigeria vs the most of the African countries. So therefore Nigeria should be carful and avoid any kind of violence when hosting another country
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October 27, 2024, 03:41:21 PM
#76
I wonder why no one is talking about the recently delivered CAF's verdict on the Nigeria/Libya episode despite having a good argument shortly after Libya's ignoble act against the Nigerian team.

I was happy yesterday when I read from various news outlets that Libya was heavily sanctioned by the CAF. The football body automatically awarded 3 goals and 3 points to the Nigerian team for the match they did not play (Libya 0 - Nigeria 3). Not only that, Libya was also fined $50,000 for this ugly act. This is what I call justice!

https://x.com/NigeriaStories/status/1850161919262437582



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October 21, 2024, 11:35:15 AM
#75
Three points and three goals is a fair punishment. With this sanction, they have no hope of qualifying, while the Super Eagles will get automatic qualification.
Even without this ugly incident occurring, Libya wouldn't have won against the Super Eagles at their home; even though they did, they wouldn't at the end of AFCON qualified to be among the two teams that would have qualified out of the Group D table. It would still be the Super Eagles, either Benin or Rwanda. For the Libya team, they will remain in the 4th spot with 3 points, not qualifying in the AFCON tournament next year that will be hosted in Morocco. Withstanding this, CAF has to take the necessary measures to address this, for this terrible act not to repeat because this incident didn't portray the spirit of sportsmanship in football

They know their capabilities so to speak. So even without the penalties, they won't qualify. But hopefully, the next time around, Libya should show sportsmanship in every match they take. They will be branded negatively if they will have the same similar incident in the future. They need to remember that at the end of the day, this is sports and they should not take this personally whenever they are inside the field.
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October 21, 2024, 11:12:15 AM
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Three points and three goals is a fair punishment. With this sanction, they have no hope of qualifying, while the Super Eagles will get automatic qualification.
Even aside this, Libya chance to qualify is very low. It is the worst team on group D. Probably the reason they are doing as they like. Rwanda and Benin Republic are better. If only two countries will qualify, Libya can not be among. But if the match is even cancelled, Nigeria chance to qualify is very high (the highest among the 4 clubs). We are still leading with 1 point despite that we have only 3 matches played while Rwanda and Benin Republic have played four matches. Yet, we are still going to play good while meeting the two countries in the last two matches left.
Yes Nigeria is going to qualify either way. If the match had been held as planned, Nigeria would have won Libya comfortably, there is no doubt about it. There are speculations of what might be CAF punishment for Libya, a point deduction will send them out of the qualifiers. I think CAF should come up with a more strict punishment because point deduction or not, Libya are not qualifying for the AFCON so removing their points will not have any consequences on them and they will not learn from it. A huge fine and a year ban should be an appropriate punishment in my opinion.

I fully support your opinion which I think should be the best punishment so others who thought of harboring such behavior will have a rethink
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October 20, 2024, 02:21:21 PM
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Three points and three goals is a fair punishment. With this sanction, they have no hope of qualifying, while the Super Eagles will get automatic qualification.
Even aside this, Libya chance to qualify is very low. It is the worst team on group D. Probably the reason they are doing as they like. Rwanda and Benin Republic are better. If only two countries will qualify, Libya can not be among. But if the match is even cancelled, Nigeria chance to qualify is very high (the highest among the 4 clubs). We are still leading with 1 point despite that we have only 3 matches played while Rwanda and Benin Republic have played four matches. Yet, we are still going to play good while meeting the two countries in the last two matches left.
Yes Nigeria is going to qualify either way. If the match had been held as planned, Nigeria would have won Libya comfortably, there is no doubt about it. There are speculations of what might be CAF punishment for Libya, a point deduction will send them out of the qualifiers. I think CAF should come up with a more strict punishment because point deduction or not, Libya are not qualifying for the AFCON so removing their points will not have any consequences on them and they will not learn from it. A huge fine and a year ban should be an appropriate punishment in my opinion.
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October 20, 2024, 10:09:05 AM
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Three points and three goals is a fair punishment. With this sanction, they have no hope of qualifying, while the Super Eagles will get automatic qualification.
Even without this ugly incident occurring, Libya wouldn't have won against the Super Eagles at their home; even though they did, they wouldn't at the end of AFCON qualified to be among the two teams that would have qualified out of the Group D table. It would still be the Super Eagles, either Benin or Rwanda. For the Libya team, they will remain in the 4th spot with 3 points, not qualifying in the AFCON tournament next year that will be hosted in Morocco. Withstanding this, CAF has to take the necessary measures to address this, for this terrible act not to repeat because this incident didn't portray the spirit of sportsmanship in football
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October 20, 2024, 08:29:49 AM
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Three points and three goals is a fair punishment. With this sanction, they have no hope of qualifying, while the Super Eagles will get automatic qualification.
Even aside this, Libya chance to qualify is very low. It is the worst team on group D. Probably the reason they are doing as they like. Rwanda and Benin Republic are better. If only two countries will qualify, Libya can not be among. But if the match is even cancelled, Nigeria chance to qualify is very high (the highest among the 4 clubs). We are still leading with 1 point despite that we have only 3 matches played while Rwanda and Benin Republic have played four matches. Yet, we are still going to play good while meeting the two countries in the last two matches left.
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October 20, 2024, 06:55:34 AM
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I do not know if it is a rumour yet but I am reading it from some sources that Nigeria will likely be awarded 3 points and 3 goals as a punishment for what Libya did. It is clear how it is the fault of Libya. Also Libya will not be allowed to play at home for 3 consecutive matches and that they will be fined. I do not know how true this is for now but I think it would be a good punishment.
The latest development is that CAF has demanded that the Nigerian Football Federation and Libya Football Federation (LFF) should give a detailed explanation of what transpired in the cancelled return leg match. They are required to submit relevant documents to back up their claims. It is clear that Libyans intentionally humiliated the Super Eagles because they felt they were treated badly by NFF. They will be found guilty since they decided to take action instead of reporting to CAF. Three points and three goals is a fair punishment. With this sanction, they have no hope of qualifying, while the Super Eagles will get automatic qualification.
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October 20, 2024, 06:31:29 AM
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There had been various news in the air of the CAF penalizing the both countries by delisting the Nigerian and the Libyan football teams from participating in the 2025 AFCON qualifiers, another sighting the CAF is deciding on giving Libyan football teams 2-3 points as Nigerian teams already decided not to participate in the match due to their experience when they landed at Libya against the match. Also The Nigerian team said they can not afford to their best in returning glory of winning home for their country after the mayhem mistreated has occurred to them that the Libyans may launch brutal mayhems of them if they defeats the Libyan teams in their home. So they thought fearfully

Other news flies that the CAF has suspended Libyan football teams until 2027 from partaking on the AFCON.

While these rumours has been flying around, some others follows where some other Islamic neighboring countries of Libyans are calling to back Libya up in this case of AFCON so that they don't get penalized.
If this is true, I don't think if it would be a healthy situation for the African countries by which football as a game being a measure of connecting and unifying them would be the same to separate them.

There is no need turning this is o religious disputes neither a good impact if this countries in good relationship would let football bring them apart.
Let the CAF act accordingly that even if any of the parties would be sanctioned, let them not hesitate to moderate the welfare as well.
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October 20, 2024, 01:36:02 AM
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I’m creating this trend to discuss the importance of the AFCON and the countries involved. Considering what is really going on with Nigeria and Libya. It’s obvious the CAF aren’t taking accurate measures towards the welfare of this countries and it’s players. Considering how football unites different categories of people and the fun is enjoyable . Without taking full responsibilities and measures could see countries clashing with each other as a result of ignorance of the CAF.

Let’s discuss the issues at hand and also outline the solutions to each problems.
Before this turns from being fun to bringing conflict.
Let’s keep the fun going
CAF has always been watching over the matches for a long time. The recently clash between Nigeria shouldn't be a reason to conclude about them being irresponsible. We have seen some other clashes In the past and it had been resolved accordingly. The fact that Nigeria actually made a mistake when libya players came to Nigeria wasn't enough reason for them to actually take actions into their hands. I was really disappointed by how they reacted even though they made it seem like it wasn't their fault which we all know it was just a payback thing. My own concern about this issue is that the CAF should take necessary actions, so we don see more of this in the African football community....
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