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sr. member
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October 26, 2014, 08:22:30 PM
#9
So your coins got stolen by russian operatives, but you blame the NSA?

No wonder real criminals find you an easy prey.
newbie
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October 26, 2014, 08:15:26 PM
#8

Yes, people will steal other peoples "ideas" especially if you rank up high with your metadata, you wouldn't be able to know that they stole it, most would just disregard it and assume that someone else has thought of the same idea.

Ideas are meant to be used by anyone. Nobody 'owns' an idea.

Coin wallets are different, a store of personal wealth.

I am wondering if rogue groups of NSA analysts might use their unfettered access to computers to steal cryptocoins?

If you think up a unique patent then it is the product of your labour and belongs to you as much as your physical property.
legendary
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October 26, 2014, 08:10:40 PM
#7
answering the question is based on our assumption, meaningless.
full member
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The cheddar breed jealousy
October 26, 2014, 07:39:41 PM
#6
Possible but how likely is the question?
newbie
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October 26, 2014, 07:36:06 PM
#5

Yes, people will steal other peoples "ideas" especially if you rank up high with your metadata, you wouldn't be able to know that they stole it, most would just disregard it and assume that someone else has thought of the same idea.

Ideas are meant to be used by anyone. Nobody 'owns' an idea.

Coin wallets are different, a store of personal wealth.

I am wondering if rogue groups of NSA analysts might use their unfettered access to computers to steal cryptocoins?
newbie
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October 26, 2014, 04:52:45 PM
#4
...people intrusted with valuable information will monetize it...

That is one way to word it.

My curiousity artises specifically though because certain large thefts seems to have occurred having used information only available through government, information otherwise technologically impossible to obtain, and there would seem to have been efforts to hide the source of that information.

I am not going to elaborate on that, and I am sure there are many people who are suspicious of agencies like the NSA, but I am wondering who has noticed that which I refer to in the previous paragraph.

Yes, people will steal other peoples "ideas" especially if you rank up high with your metadata, you wouldn't be able to know that they stole it, most would just disregard it and assume that someone else has thought of the same idea.
newbie
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October 26, 2014, 04:10:27 PM
#3
...people intrusted with valuable information will monetize it...

That is one way to word it.

My curiousity artises specifically though because certain large thefts seems to have occurred having used information only available through government, information otherwise technologically impossible to obtain, and there would seem to have been efforts to hide the source of that information.

I am not going to elaborate on that, and I am sure there are many people who are suspicious of agencies like the NSA, but I am wondering who has noticed that which I refer to in the previous paragraph.
newbie
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October 26, 2014, 04:03:11 PM
#2
Surprise surprise, people intrusted with valuable information will monetize it in exchange for currency. Who honestly wouldn't? Everyone but the 1% of the ideologically committed.
newbie
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October 26, 2014, 03:46:15 PM
#1
Some time back my computer was hacked and I lost some coins. Reviewing all the evidence, including information from Kaspersky, it seemed likely someone in  Russian government law enforcement position might have been involved.

Recently I read the following article on the Intercept
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/10/24/nsa-official-implicated-potential-conflicts-interest-resigns/
It occured to me that the people who have that sort of power are usually either very clean or very crooked. Historically in offices like that there is an ultracorrupt leadership that employes a layer of squeeky clean people for legitimacy.

So reading the above article do you think there are teams at the NSA who aggressively steal coin wallets?

Edit to add
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2812728/British-spies-American-s-telephone-calls-emails-without-warrant-reveals-legal-challenge-UK.html
The NSA and GCHQ each have tens of thousands of employees.
Each has a reputation too for trying to present a false ethical atmosphere around their leaders.
Many other comparable services in other countries are the same but with even poorer ethics.
So the question is not "Do they steal", but " How many of them steal?" and "Is there any way to force accountability?".

Note too that these agencies overwhelmingly prefer to avoid punishing bad employees to avoid publicity. A few years ago the CIA station chief in Algeria was caught luring women to his home, administering knockout drugs and then raping the women. The problem quickly disappeared and a person can guess that employee was promoted to a position with less supervision so the problem, i.e., publicity, will not recur.
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