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hero member
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Did you burn the evga? Shocked

I did reach 1.7 too, with fan at 100%, max setings on voltage and wattage, and air at 0c.....
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
take out the 288watt cap or the voltage limit of 0.790 and we can hit 1.8th/s

+1
get better cables  Smiley my SP20's are all perfectly capable of 1.7TH/s
i run them ~1.5.

I have 11x EVGA G2 1300W

This is not about cables, but the software limit.

My second and third SP20 worked 1720GH/s and 1735GH/s  if they are accidentally have after update   SP10 software.

I had a 1600 EVGA which was only running one SP20... it went up in a puff of smoke... Sp20 is more about getting the settings right... I have three SP20 and each of them are able to go to 1.7TH/s
hero member
Activity: 742
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You can't really punch something above 288, because the webgui puts back 288 in that field that you tried to put higher setting!
I did somehow, and don't remember how, put 1350w in there. But we still got the 0.79v limit...

I mean someone with programming knowledge, maybe even SPtech...
They don't give it out because they don't want higher rates of returning machines; and they still have them on stock plus another 3month after that....

Or maybe the settings are hard written inside and can't be taken out!
legendary
Activity: 1652
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Christian Antkow
take out the 288watt cap or the voltage limit of 0.790 and we can hit 1.8th/s
What do you mean by "take out the 288watt cap" ? Blank out the field ? Set it to 0 ? Set it to a high number like 350 ?
legendary
Activity: 1218
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take out the 288watt cap or the voltage limit of 0.790 and we can hit 1.8th/s

+1
get better cables  Smiley my SP20's are all perfectly capable of 1.7TH/s
i run them ~1.5.

I have 11x EVGA G2 1300W

This is not about cables, but the software limit.

My second and third SP20 worked 1720GH/s and 1735GH/s  if they are accidentally have after update   SP10 software.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
take out the 288watt cap or the voltage limit of 0.790 and we can hit 1.8th/s
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Spondoolies

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Sp20  I have 8  they work great at 1500gh or under  If I owned the company I would have called them 1500gh miners
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I clock my Sp20E at 1400gh or 1430gh max   I do not even attempt to think 1600 or 1700gh.
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I agree. All buy, but no one sees that SP20 is still underperformed 1.7 TH/s ± 10%

Based on my 11x SP20 I only see 11 x  1.7 TH/s - 5%


Only my very first SP20 was 1720TH/s of normal room temperature. Even that only have one day to the first software updates.
I look forward to  software that would allow me back 1.7 TH/s +


get better cables  Smiley my SP20's are all perfectly capable of 1.7TH/s
i run them ~1.5.
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1003
Spondoolies

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Sp20  I have 8  they work great at 1500gh or under  If I owned the company I would have called them 1500gh miners
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I clock my Sp20E at 1400gh or 1430gh max   I do not even attempt to think 1600 or 1700gh.
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I agree. All buy, but no one sees that SP20 is still underperformed 1.7 TH/s ± 10%

Based on my 11x SP20 I only see 11 x  1.7 TH/s - 5%


Only my very first SP20 was 1720TH/s of normal room temperature. Even that only have one day to the first software updates.
I look forward to  software that would allow me back 1.7 TH/s +
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
First S5 in the wild: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9977426

raskul you missed your 15 minutes of glory!

I'm reserving judgement until i test my own unit.
I intend to draw a circle on the floor and surround it with candles to keep away evil spirits and unwanted outside influences.

Teehee 😜

  let it sit in the home and warm a bit first.
sr. member
Activity: 434
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First S5 in the wild: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9977426

raskul you missed your 15 minutes of glory!

I'm reserving judgement until i test my own unit.
I intend to draw a circle on the floor and surround it with candles to keep away evil spirits and unwanted outside influences.

Teehee 😜
legendary
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First S5 in the wild: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9977426

raskul you missed your 15 minutes of glory!
legendary
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Merit: 1000
My main concern with the S5 is why does it cost so much?

The C1 is $325 and has FOUR hashing boards. The C1 boards also have a DC/DC converter for every two chips IIRC. The buck controller ICs probably cost more per unit than their custom silicon.

There is a major BOM cost reduction going to the chained design. The controller looks the same (cost reduced beaglebone black), the new chips of course have an NRE that needs to be recouped so they're probably just milking the first batch of people who are gonna buy it just because it's new.

Not even considering the possibility of instability or catastrophic failure due to the chain design, I'm gonna sit on my hands for a while. I'm willing to bet the first few price drops will be pretty good.

Who said they aren't losing $100s on the C1 at that price? You don't know.

I think them doing a batch 2 proves it.   But I don't have the info you do so I could be wrong.  I think they would have stopped after batch one, or stopped it completely like L1's.  

For what it is worth I think we will see SP and Bitmain continue to battle it out.

Batches are artificiality created as a marketing tactic.
For all we know the first batch might be few tens of S5 to test the product on live customers.

They were out of stock of C1's for a bit that makes me think they did run out to stop selling.  But again I could be wrong I have no proof either way.
newbie
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Today I bought 12 pieces Antminer S5

I trust them today more than SP20 , especially after seeing this picture. Because they have  4  PCI-E slot, For 600W.
SP20 has 4  PCI-E slot for 1200W (Max)


I have 3 x SP20 and
6pc SP20 purchased by December 17, to get my hands probably 29.12

I also have a 5pc KNC Neptune, with no burnt PCI-E slot.


The rest are all Bitmaintech production. (37x S3, 6x C1, 2x S4 )

It would be seen that picture before, then I would not have ordered more SP20.
THIS IS MY BAD
spondoolies is so kind that give me a new one just for free!!
next time use seasonic cable.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Single-Seasonic-power-supply-modular-cable-/321608923301?pt=US_Power_Cables_Connectors&hash=item4ae162b8a5
after the experience with mining ati r9 290 all this noname chinese shit PSU is simple shit. only premium PSU have adequate cable. I burn a lot of cable until I realized Seasonic PSU is, other PSU is Simpley lottery
When you baying seasonic cable check is seller official seasonic dealer,because lot  bad chinese copy is available.I do not understand how the noname Chinese think that if Avg 17 cable can haul 25A.
Thanks!
But shitty PSU that you said is come from CHINA surely, not from TAIWAN, we were all called as chinese but  there is a BIG difference between us.
I use super flower's PSU since I started mining, high C/P and realible!
90% load and no anyone fault so far
https://i.imgur.com/QhI8Nih.jpg
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
My main concern with the S5 is why does it cost so much?

The C1 is $325 and has FOUR hashing boards. The C1 boards also have a DC/DC converter for every two chips IIRC. The buck controller ICs probably cost more per unit than their custom silicon.

There is a major BOM cost reduction going to the chained design. The controller looks the same (cost reduced beaglebone black), the new chips of course have an NRE that needs to be recouped so they're probably just milking the first batch of people who are gonna buy it just because it's new.

Not even considering the possibility of instability or catastrophic failure due to the chain design, I'm gonna sit on my hands for a while. I'm willing to bet the first few price drops will be pretty good.

Who said they aren't losing $100s on the C1 at that price? You don't know.

I think them doing a batch 2 proves it.   But I don't have the info you do so I could be wrong.  I think they would have stopped after batch one, or stopped it completely like L1's.  

For what it is worth I think we will see SP and Bitmain continue to battle it out.

Batches are artificiality created as a marketing tactic.
For all we know the first batch might be few tens of S5 to test the product on live customers.
legendary
Activity: 1600
Merit: 1014
I made really good experiences with Antminers so far (except the big ones S2 and S4)
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
Today I bought 12 pieces Antminer S5

I trust them today more than SP20 , especially after seeing this picture. Because they have  4  PCI-E slot, For 600W.
SP20 has 4  PCI-E slot for 1200W (Max)



I have 3 x SP20 and
6pc SP20 purchased by December 17, to get my hands probably 29.12

I also have a 5pc KNC Neptune, with no burnt PCI-E slot.


The rest are all Bitmaintech production. (37x S3, 6x C1, 2x S4 )

It would be seen that picture before, then I would not have ordered more SP20.
THIS IS MY BAD
spondoolies is so kind that give me a new one just for free!!
next time use seasonic cable.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Single-Seasonic-power-supply-modular-cable-/321608923301?pt=US_Power_Cables_Connectors&hash=item4ae162b8a5
after the experience with mining ati r9 290 all this noname chinese shit PSU is simple shit. only premium PSU have adequate cable. I burn a lot of cable until I realized Seasonic PSU is, other PSU is Simpley lottery
When you baying seasonic cable check is seller official seasonic dealer,because lot  bad chinese copy is available.I do not understand how the noname Chinese think that if Avg 17 cable can haul 25A.
sr. member
Activity: 471
Merit: 250
For what it is worth I think we will see SP and Bitmain continue to battle it out.

Yes, that is where the market is at the moment ... interesting times ... Bitmain celebrating 12 months ... Sponds yet to do that.

legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
My main concern with the S5 is why does it cost so much?

The C1 is $325 and has FOUR hashing boards. The C1 boards also have a DC/DC converter for every two chips IIRC. The buck controller ICs probably cost more per unit than their custom silicon.

There is a major BOM cost reduction going to the chained design. The controller looks the same (cost reduced beaglebone black), the new chips of course have an NRE that needs to be recouped so they're probably just milking the first batch of people who are gonna buy it just because it's new.

Not even considering the possibility of instability or catastrophic failure due to the chain design, I'm gonna sit on my hands for a while. I'm willing to bet the first few price drops will be pretty good.

Who said they aren't losing $100s on the C1 at that price? You don't know.

I think them doing a batch 2 proves it.   But I don't have the info you do so I could be wrong.  I think they would have stopped after batch one, or stopped it completely like L1's.  

For what it is worth I think we will see SP and Bitmain continue to battle it out.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
here is my take on this.

we don't know if gear works well until the first adapters use it test it and post on it.

Asic Miner

1)Usb sticks pretty solid worked pretty well
2)Blades pretty solid worked pretty well
3)49 port usb hub issues with the stock fuse many melted.   most of us used a lessor fuse problem solved
4) cubes many batches had issues and burned or melted fuses
5)little tubes  had issues some melted some popped caps
6) prismas worse then the tubes

I owned all of the above.  I only felt safe with the usb sticks and the blades

Bitmaintech

S-1 pretty safe a few but not many issues
S-3 very safe a few but not many issues
S-2  shipped poorly lots of psu issues
S-4 better then the  s-2 by far
C-1 some water pump issues

Spondoolies

sp10   worked well not many burnups
Sp20  I have 8  they work great at 1500gh or under  If I owned the company I would have called them 1500gh miners
sp30  Some psu issues underpreformed a bit.  spondoolies paid comp money
sp31 a few psu issues
sp35 a few psu issues.

For the sake of argument  I am using the 3 companies above.
I would fear Asic Miners new build based on the last 4 things they sold.  but I will buy one and test it.
I am getting an S-5  as a test demo... I will test the shit out of it would I fear to buy it no.  Would I buy 100 from the first batch no.
Sp20E  do I fear it no would I buy more yes. 

 BUT  I drive my Kia Forte at 70mph max or about 115KPH max.
I clock my Sp20E at 1400gh or 1430gh max   I do not even attempt to think 1600 or 1700gh.

So when I get the S-5 I will test the shit out of it and report back.
Until then I won't fear the design.  PS I will power it with my 760 watt seasonic platinum for the first set of tests.  why is that the seasonic has short and surge protection.
legendary
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Merit: 1185
dogiecoin.com
My main concern with the S5 is why does it cost so much?

The C1 is $325 and has FOUR hashing boards. The C1 boards also have a DC/DC converter for every two chips IIRC. The buck controller ICs probably cost more per unit than their custom silicon.

There is a major BOM cost reduction going to the chained design. The controller looks the same (cost reduced beaglebone black), the new chips of course have an NRE that needs to be recouped so they're probably just milking the first batch of people who are gonna buy it just because it's new.

Not even considering the possibility of instability or catastrophic failure due to the chain design, I'm gonna sit on my hands for a while. I'm willing to bet the first few price drops will be pretty good.

Who said they aren't losing $100s on the C1 at that price? You don't know.
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