I think the best people to understand those needs are the campaign managers themselves. If they are willing to be interviewed by you and ask what makes their job hard, maybe you could start from there. I'm not sure how hard it is for them to make sure they have the correct counting, correct board posting, etc. From their response, it would be easy to start a chart then see what you could code from it.
Have you tried contacting the trusted and reputable managers here? Like DarkStar, Hhampuz, and yahoo? I don't know if they would reply or if they use tools already, but pretty sure you can have an answer to your question.
Topic: Is there a need for tools for sig campaign management? - page 2. (Read 341 times)
Edit: with such a tool on twitter maybe you can become a twitter bounty manager, if there are still such bounties...
I've worked with Twitter API in the past, but there are bounty platforms that cover that, so I don't plan to reinvent the wheel here, I want to knowif there's a need for tools specifically for Bitcointalk posting. If there is, I could make it and release to the public as an open source project.
Some campaigns had/have tools, but I don't see their usefulness in a good campaign. In a good campaign the manager has to check the posts for being good quality, not off-topic, no duplication and so on, things that a tool cannot do, so whether he'd use your tool or not, the campaign manager would have to check the posts anyway.
Of course, for lower quality campaigns, where only the numbers matter (number of posts, number of characters in a post, max number of posts in a thread or page), then indeed the tool would be enough. If it's the case, probably some campaign managers would approach you.
Imho such tool would "help" the quality of posts decrease, so if you ask me, you better stay away.
Edit: with such a tool on twitter maybe you can become a twitter bounty manager, if there are still such bounties...
Of course, for lower quality campaigns, where only the numbers matter (number of posts, number of characters in a post, max number of posts in a thread or page), then indeed the tool would be enough. If it's the case, probably some campaign managers would approach you.
Imho such tool would "help" the quality of posts decrease, so if you ask me, you better stay away.
Edit: with such a tool on twitter maybe you can become a twitter bounty manager, if there are still such bounties...
if all that the tool does is show a report or stat to the user of it, then i don't think it would be a very useful tool. most of the things you listed can easily be calculated. for example number of posts only requires you to click on the page numbers in the post history and find the last datetime of the previous payment. the number of posts is the number that is shown on the top right corner of that comment.
what you could do is to create an interface that shows all the valid posts. for example it could fetch the post history based on that date and "hide" posts that are not accepted. for instance it could hide posts in boards that they don't pay like altcoin board. and only show the valid ones. so the manager could just focus on them.
you could also add an X button on top of each post to let him remove anything that is not accepted and project that in the total accepted number.
what you could do is to create an interface that shows all the valid posts. for example it could fetch the post history based on that date and "hide" posts that are not accepted. for instance it could hide posts in boards that they don't pay like altcoin board. and only show the valid ones. so the manager could just focus on them.
you could also add an X button on top of each post to let him remove anything that is not accepted and project that in the total accepted number.
From my experience, checking posts from 10-50 participants in a week is not that time consuming, assuming that you've already selected good posters from the beginning (I work as a bounty manager assistant). This might be different with other manager but most of the time I use around 3-4 hours to do it.
I agree with Avirunes, this kind of bot is probably more meaningful if managers use it to check others reports such as social media reports which are done weekly and sometimes has more than hundreds or thousands of participants in it. I never see a complaint from a signature participant, except for a few where they feel they've made enough post but in fact, 1 or 2 were deleted. On the other hand, I always see a complaint from social media participant where they feel that their report is not checked yet.
I agree with Avirunes, this kind of bot is probably more meaningful if managers use it to check others reports such as social media reports which are done weekly and sometimes has more than hundreds or thousands of participants in it. I never see a complaint from a signature participant, except for a few where they feel they've made enough post but in fact, 1 or 2 were deleted. On the other hand, I always see a complaint from social media participant where they feel that their report is not checked yet.
Yes there were many campaigns like Bit-X , Coinroll which used such automated system to do this stuff.
I think there is a still need for it but not in campaigns with low participant no.s such as signature campaigns. Anyone can do that manually. You can start making bots for bounty campaigns as managers find it really time consuming going through checking each participant in long list of around 5-10k entries in total.
I think there is a still need for it but not in campaigns with low participant no.s such as signature campaigns. Anyone can do that manually. You can start making bots for bounty campaigns as managers find it really time consuming going through checking each participant in long list of around 5-10k entries in total.
I believe there have been things like this in the past, namely, the really old bitmixer signature campaign 3 years back. It was a bit of a mess until they actually added in a manager in, but from the top of my head, I believe it had these features.
-Starting post count for the week
-Ending post for the week
-Current accepted posts (the bot only checked the length of posts, not quality)
-Payment due
I reckon a viable option would be creating a bot that would pull all the posts that are accepted (so you need to make sure the bot can make sure they are posting on the correct board, with the correct length) into a word document, then auto checking it for plagiarism.
I don't think bots will ever replace managers in this industry though. Bots are unable to check post quality.
-Starting post count for the week
-Ending post for the week
-Current accepted posts (the bot only checked the length of posts, not quality)
-Payment due
I reckon a viable option would be creating a bot that would pull all the posts that are accepted (so you need to make sure the bot can make sure they are posting on the correct board, with the correct length) into a word document, then auto checking it for plagiarism.
I don't think bots will ever replace managers in this industry though. Bots are unable to check post quality.
I think a lot of tasks in signature campaign management can be automated, it's pretty easy to write a program that counts posts in given timeframe, checks in which boards they were made, checks that length was sufficient and so on. Of course it can't measure quality, so managers would still need to look at posts themselves, but it eliminates the need for counting, which is long and error-prone.
I know there are many services for bounty campaigns, and there was some service for automated sig campaign management in the past, but still I would want to know if there's a need for such tools today, because I could develop one if someone asked for it.
I know there are many services for bounty campaigns, and there was some service for automated sig campaign management in the past, but still I would want to know if there's a need for such tools today, because I could develop one if someone asked for it.
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