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i have talked with him thrue a forum and telegram.
Sorry to say that chances of getting your fund back is very lower. Bitcoin has been popular for its transaction privacy where in one word you can trace transaction but its kinda impossible to get information about receiver or sender. I don't think that wallet provider will come forward to share KYC details of their user.

  • Go to the police, at least they'll be able to gather some statistics and maybe if they ever crack down a huge scam network they might be able to recover your funds
If bitcoin is legally accepted in your country then its the best option for you. 
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Lets say for example you pay someone for a product or service 1,5 btc and he scams you? what can you do about it? can you find his location his name etc?
Also you send the btc to his exchange account(witch is not Kyc). If he turnes that btc into monero its over!?

in theory , you could hire a bitcoin forensics company to try and trace the scammer
in reality , your coins are usually as good as lost even if he doesn't exchange it to any anonymous crypto
a good example - Primedice and Hufflepuff , you can Google it for more info or read this article :
 https://www.casino.org/news/primedice-com-loses-over-1-million-to-player-exploiting-coding-flaw/
the casino offered decent money for the information that would lead to the scammer , but as far as I know it resulted in nothing and he walked away with 1 mil $ in bitcoins
worth up to 20 mil nowadays ,by the way

it is very important to only send your coins to the services or people you trust , if the receiver disappears and you've sent your coins first  - you are in trouble
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And, this has already been said but i'll emphasize it: You can also check the adress you send money to with https://www.walletexplorer.com/


Do you think this will help somehow if the fraudster used the service from your signature?
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i have talked with him thrue a forum and telegram.

Did he already scammed you?

If not yet, don't deal with him better look for trusted escrow(MiddleMan) before you deal. But if you already sent the bitcoin to him there's no way to recover it.

Can you tell us what forum you are talking about is it the cryptotalk forum? I don't know if they have some trusted escrow but here on the forum, you can find many.
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Lets say for example you pay someone for a product or service 1,5 btc and he scams you? what can you do about it? can you find his location his name etc?
Also you send the btc to his exchange account(witch is not Kyc). If he turnes that btc into monero its over!?
If the scammer use an exchange wallet he can still be trace through some deep search but you can only his address, name etc if the exchange is centralized. If he's a scammer that make use to clean wallet and direct the BTC to his personal wallet through solid tumbler the BTC is long gone cause it can't be trace
Meanwhile, it better to be more careful in the first place than trying to rectify the damage after it has occurred.
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i have talked with him thrue a forum and telegram.

If it is a big forum and he is a known/old member then you should start a thread there and expose him.
If he cares about his membership and reputation there then maybe he will send the money back to you. At least you will prevent other members from getting scammed by him.
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How did you communicate with him, you might be able to work out where he is from that info.

You can't charge back a btc transaction and if they aren't kycd then theres probably no way to trace them from there...

i have talked with him thrue a forum and telegram.
Telegram is a no-go unless you can let him click a link (iplogger) you won't get any info.

You can ask the admins of the forum you were on to hand over his data (IP, Browser fingerprints), but that probably requires a police report.


And, this has already been said but i'll emphasize it: You can also check the adress you send money to with https://www.walletexplorer.com/

see if it generates any KYC exchanges, and then you'll probably also need to file a police report first and MAYBE they hand over the data. (That probably actually requires a court filing or something. (I am not a lawyer so i don't know.)
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How did you communicate with him, you might be able to work out where he is from that info.

You can't charge back a btc transaction and if they aren't kycd then theres probably no way to trace them from there...

i have talked with him thrue a forum and telegram.
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Lets say for example you pay someone for a product or service 1,5 btc and he scams you? what can you do about it? can you find his location his name etc?
Also you send the btc to his exchange account(witch is not Kyc). If he turnes that btc into monero its over!?

Bitcoin is pseudo-anonymous. You can follow the unspent outputs, and if (at one point) an address linked to an exchange or service with mandatory KYC is funded, you have a (very small) chance of recovering your funds.
Offcourse, as soon as the funds have moved a couple of times, there's a small chance of finding the real culprit but instead you'll find an innocent person that just got payed by an unspent output that could once be linked to a crime.

There are a couple of things you can do if you get scammed tough:
  • Go to the police, at least they'll be able to gather some statistics and maybe if they ever crack down a huge scam network they might be able to recover your funds
  • Follow the unspent outputs and check walletexplorer if one of the funded addresses is ever from a KYC mandatory service. Maybe you won't find the culprit, but odds are you'll end up with somebody that did business with the culprit. Offcourse, if a mixing service of some sorts is used, your trail ends
  • Depending on the mode in which you were scammed, it might be possible to get to the ip or account of the scammer... Bitcointalk and other fora/services keeps ip logs, domain names need to be registered, chat applications need to be downloaded or connected to a central server,... All of these things can be faked/hidden tough

You're also right about monero. Once BTC gets exchanged for a privacy coin, you're more or less out of options...

Maybe it's a good idear to tell us what happened exactly, it's kind of hard to give advice without knowing the exact story...

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How did you communicate with him, you might be able to work out where he is from that info.

You can't charge back a btc transaction and if they aren't kycd then theres probably no way to trace them from there...
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Lets say for example you pay someone for a product or service 1,5 btc and he scams you? what can you do about it? can you find his location his name etc?
Also you send the btc to his exchange account(witch is not Kyc). If he turnes that btc into monero its over!?
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