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jr. member
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October 23, 2018, 01:55:45 PM
#57
It seems to me, or the Chinese new year is not connected with bitcoi and blockchain in general, or am I wrong?
sr. member
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September 24, 2018, 04:43:44 AM
#56
Specially the ETF, it is really totally manipulation ,because they want to earn money because of this situation, weak hands are really pathetic this time, they will just do pump and dump, dump if they want to buy more at much cheaper price.
Idk how OP came out from those he mentioned above like I didn't see that it wholly affect the market and only the ETF issue had the real score since it brought uncertainties that lead some to panic. Why don't we be used to all this kind of manipulation besides this was already part of the market long time ago. Likewise, have a strong balls to withstand all of these as you never get a decent profit if you just easily sway by everything.

We still have a week to go before ETF decision so just hold your balls tight.
jr. member
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September 24, 2018, 03:34:11 AM
#55
they can create an impact to make it happen. But as we all know, after bear market there will be a stabilization and then going for a bull market and therefore investors must have to be patient  with their investment.
We have had a quite stable time period so now we are patiently awaiting the bull market!
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September 24, 2018, 12:21:17 AM
#54
The fact is that we all love Bitcoin, the cryptospace and the "good" altcoins but this year has been very rough and tough for all of us with some of us even thinking of leaving with the small we have now. Now something has got me thinking very deeply. This year has been going in almost the opposite way as we thought. Whenever we thought there was going to be a rise, then boom!! we go down the hill into the valley. So i just pondered over these and found out that we need to give the market a new eye. We need to start thinking in the way of the whales. To better get what I mean; go through the list below and look at what the market went through during those times.

- Chinese new year
- Coinbase announcement of some coins on coinbase
- Consensus 2018
- End of financial year
- Tax return time
- World soccer cup (well, i didn't expect a bullish era though! but others did Cheesy)
- Coinbase announce of add some crypto again
- Bitcoin ETF(Whiis killing us currently).
and many more...
Well, what next ......what will make the market red again...Huh

So I'm confused- are we being played on our minds or manipulated to be off track or it's just bound to happen that way. Because to me this coud be a big time manipulation other than using pump and dump groups. All that will be needed is for the whole crypto market to think in one way and you'll be good to go. We hope to see some green light very soon.


I think so, they dropped bitcoin from the fall now
they outwit bitcoin miners. keep and hold your coin is only manipulation of them
member
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September 23, 2018, 10:41:27 PM
#53
I don't think those factors has any influence on Bitcoin, but as Bitcoin price and market highly volatile and whales and rumors are being very big catalyst here - I think we just need to wait up to get rid of the whimsical investors and Bitcoin a little more time to stable up.
full member
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The Standard Protocol - Solving Inflation
September 23, 2018, 10:15:47 PM
#52
The fact is that we all love Bitcoin, the cryptospace and the "good" altcoins but this year has been very rough and tough for all of us with some of us even thinking of leaving with the small we have now. Now something has got me thinking very deeply. This year has been going in almost the opposite way as we thought. Whenever we thought there was going to be a rise, then boom!! we go down the hill into the valley. So i just pondered over these and found out that we need to give the market a new eye. We need to start thinking in the way of the whales. To better get what I mean; go through the list below and look at what the market went through during those times.

- Chinese new year
- Coinbase announcement of some coins on coinbase
- Consensus 2018
- End of financial year
- Tax return time
- World soccer cup (well, i didn't expect a bullish era though! but others did Cheesy)
- Coinbase announce of add some crypto again
- Bitcoin ETF(Whiis killing us currently).
and many more...
Well, what next ......what will make the market red again...Huh

So I'm confused- are we being played on our minds or manipulated to be off track or it's just bound to happen that way. Because to me this coud be a big time manipulation other than using pump and dump groups. All that will be needed is for the whole crypto market to think in one way and you'll be good to go. We hope to see some green light very soon.

Well good news usually considered as market manipulation, and manipulation is a common things in cryptocurrency and thats what makes the market so volatile. But still i think someday crypto price would be stable when ETF are approved and ETN, and when nasdaq and wall street sell cryptocurrency and crypto become more common in our daily life, i think it would be more stable like market stock.
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September 23, 2018, 09:44:51 PM
#51
The fact is that we all love Bitcoin, the cryptospace and the "good" altcoins but this year has been very rough and tough for all of us with some of us even thinking of leaving with the small we have now. Now something has got me thinking very deeply. This year has been going in almost the opposite way as we thought. Whenever we thought there was going to be a rise, then boom!! we go down the hill into the valley. So i just pondered over these and found out that we need to give the market a new eye. We need to start thinking in the way of the whales. To better get what I mean; go through the list below and look at what the market went through during those times.

- Chinese new year
- Coinbase announcement of some coins on coinbase
- Consensus 2018
- End of financial year
- Tax return time
- World soccer cup (well, i didn't expect a bullish era though! but others did Cheesy)
- Coinbase announce of add some crypto again
- Bitcoin ETF(Whiis killing us currently).
and many more...
Well, what next ......what will make the market red again...Huh

So I'm confused- are we being played on our minds or manipulated to be off track or it's just bound to happen that way. Because to me this coud be a big time manipulation other than using pump and dump groups. All that will be needed is for the whole crypto market to think in one way and you'll be good to go. We hope to see some green light very soon.


Either the market of crypto was manipulated or not, it is quite important to know the yearly event in the world to know the movements of market.
Some events need huge amount of fiat money, so the whales maybe sell their coins at that time and will comeback to buy later.
jr. member
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September 23, 2018, 12:07:08 PM
#50
The fluctuation in bitcoin market is about demand and supply. It is possible that those who bought bitcoin at earlier times are now selling them. However, the quantity involved is what I don't know. While the number of people that use bitcoin is on the increase (in my opinion), they may not likely invest more because of the current market value. Bitcoin/cryptocurrency performance in recent times may not encourage new investors to put in reasonable money. The feedback on the performance will have impact on intending investors. Old investors with big amount of bitcoin are probably taking profits and predetermined intervals, thereby, forcing the market down at such intervals. Other factors that maybe manipulating bitcoin price include-certain measures/news by some countries concerning bitcoin, among others. All these factors can cumulatively affect the value of bitcoin.
full member
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September 23, 2018, 11:34:01 AM
#49
manipulation is definitely there. But people are starting to panic right away and the market is going downhill. In this panic sale, too, some people add fortune to their wealth. These are the main reasons for this situation. Now, everyone is longing for the green light for the bull season and hopefully this light will light up as soon as possible.
Because there are too many negative issues this year, causing people to panic. Especially people who haven't known crypto for a long time, causing massive dumps. This is a very bad situation  Cry
full member
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Giggity
September 23, 2018, 10:53:15 AM
#48
I think there is definitely a manipulation happening by the whales I guess or from the different exchanges I think it is just a coincidence that there is an event or big occasion happening when the market is red so that's why those events are there in the first place and the "hacking" that is happening in the exchanges I think that is just a hoax those exchanges are created so the bitcoin will go down but it is just my opinion.
full member
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September 23, 2018, 10:09:10 AM
#47
In this real world, there are many new forms of manipulation even on cryptocurrency world. We must be careful before deciding to jump into cryptocurrency world especially when we want to use our money to be investing on crypto. Just do some research first.
member
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September 23, 2018, 09:36:53 AM
#46
The fact is that we all love Bitcoin, the cryptospace and the "good" altcoins but this year has been very rough and tough for all of us with some of us even thinking of leaving with the small we have now. Now something has got me thinking very deeply. This year has been going in almost the opposite way as we thought. Whenever we thought there was going to be a rise, then boom!! we go down the hill into the valley. So i just pondered over these and found out that we need to give the market a new eye. We need to start thinking in the way of the whales. To better get what I mean; go through the list below and look at what the market went through during those times.

- Chinese new year
- Coinbase announcement of some coins on coinbase
- Consensus 2018
- End of financial year
- Tax return time
- World soccer cup (well, i didn't expect a bullish era though! but others did Cheesy)
- Coinbase announce of add some crypto again
- Bitcoin ETF(Whiis killing us currently).
and many more...
Well, what next ......what will make the market red again...Huh

So I'm confused- are we being played on our minds or manipulated to be off track or it's just bound to happen that way. Because to me this coud be a big time manipulation other than using pump and dump groups. All that will be needed is for the whole crypto market to think in one way and you'll be good to go. We hope to see some green light very soon.


There will always any reason for the falling of cryptocurrency price in the market if you heard the rumors.
But what we must do is trying to find out what is exactly the reason for this bear market.
Anyway, i think the bear market will be end soon, we see the market recovering now.
full member
Activity: 294
Merit: 100
September 23, 2018, 05:40:26 AM
#45
It seems to me that the role of the news is not so great now. Bitcoin for the year rose from $ 600 to$20 000! This is simply unimaginable! I think that many people who have bought bitcoin for 600 simply take profit and therefore the price falls down more and more.
newbie
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September 23, 2018, 05:08:44 AM
#44
Yes, I would say it is a manifestation in both ways you have proposed. Manipulation may think that they only get it down a bit until others join the innand even cheaper. To the second point, I think that most of the money in the market is struggling to get their viability and that makes everyone's beliefs go through killing those coins.
newbie
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September 07, 2018, 11:51:14 AM
#43
they can create an impact to make it happen. But as we all know, after bear market there will be a stabilization and then going for a bull market and therefore investors must have to be patient  with their investment.
hero member
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HODLing is an art, not just a word...
September 07, 2018, 07:28:54 AM
#42
Cryptocurrency is largely unpredictable. The price fluctuations are also mostly unexpected.
When thinking like a whale, you would have to decipher the reason behind their actions, this would give you an idea, whether to Hodl, sell or buy.

that is because you are talking about altcoins (cryptocurrencies). they are indeed unpredictable and the reason is because there is no logic in pump and dumps so you can not use that logic to predict it. it all comes down to guesswork and knowing how pumps work for altcoins.
holding an altcoin is silly though because of the dumping part of the pump and dump which you can clearly see these days as altcoins continue falling.
newbie
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September 07, 2018, 07:28:31 AM
#41
Well, for now, a slow fatigue and growth, so that everyone believes in the turn. And locally this reversal is likely to happen, but only so that market participants believe it. After him, you still have to fall. Keep this in mind.
full member
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September 07, 2018, 07:26:01 AM
#40
The fact is that we all love Bitcoin, the cryptospace and the "good" altcoins but this year has been very rough and tough for all of us with some of us even thinking of leaving with the small we have now. Now something has got me thinking very deeply. This year has been going in almost the opposite way as we thought. Whenever we thought there was going to be a rise, then boom!! we go down the hill into the valley. So i just pondered over these and found out that we need to give the market a new eye. We need to start thinking in the way of the whales. To better get what I mean; go through the list below and look at what the market went through during those times.

- Chinese new year
- Coinbase announcement of some coins on coinbase
- Consensus 2018
- End of financial year
- Tax return time
- World soccer cup (well, i didn't expect a bullish era though! but others did Cheesy)
- Coinbase announce of add some crypto again
- Bitcoin ETF(Whiis killing us currently).
and many more...
Well, what next ......what will make the market red again...Huh

So I'm confused- are we being played on our minds or manipulated to be off track or it's just bound to happen that way. Because to me this coud be a big time manipulation other than using pump and dump groups. All that will be needed is for the whole crypto market to think in one way and you'll be good to go. We hope to see some green light very soon.


Those news and FUD are really affect the price of the market.
And people will FOMO and follow the news.
But i'm preety sure there are whales and medias behind these condition, and they're taking profit from it
newbie
Activity: 154
Merit: 0
September 07, 2018, 07:16:10 AM
#39
Cryptocurrency is largely unpredictable. The price fluctuations are also mostly unexpected.
When thinking like a whale, you would have to decipher the reason behind their actions, this would give you an idea, whether to Hodl, sell or buy.
newbie
Activity: 75
Merit: 0
September 07, 2018, 07:07:44 AM
#38
Great that you've pointed out the fact that almost everything happened this year in the opposite way to our expectations. The may clearly mean that BIG whales are playing their game correctly and we should start thinking like them. They see a great potential in crypto and will keep this pirce low for now to load and load more BTC.
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