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Quote from: Lapatai on September 18, 2019, 02:20:55 AM

So okay, this story didn't happen to me. It happened to a friend (let's call him Bob) of a friend (I will call him Sam).

Bob came to me asking is this a scam and is it legal. Bob doesn't know much about bitcoins and crypto, Sam even less.
Sam somehow got in contact with people who offers to open an account and invest into crypto. These people guaranteed a lot of profit. Sam paid 500 EUR at first and other two times a 2000 EUR.
What is interesting, that these people calling him to invest more. But he has an app (I don't know what app, because I heard it from Bob and he doesn't know either) which shows that Sam has doubled his investment (9000 EUR), but he cannot withdraw it now and these people (from Russia) are calling and rushing him to invest even more.

Bob asked me about that, I said that this is some nonsense. There shouldn't be people calling you and asking to transfer money. All is too fishy.

What should Sam do? Will the police help?

This is definitely a scam and even if you call police they cannot do something about it since the transaction held in crypto and we knew that crypto has anonymous characteristic. I'd say that the money invested was gone, the lesson here is that don't ever go for a transaction without having knowledge regards this matter, conduct some research on crypto even if it is fundamentals so you can have background.

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Quote from: milani on October 17, 2019, 08:51:27 AM

Quote from: Lapatai on September 18, 2019, 02:20:55 AM

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Oh, it is a typical situation in the world of profit and money. Some are too inventive and make great really working schemes and pyramids. Really simple and ingenious. And some people are sometimes too greedy, sometimes too naive, sometimes just too inattentive to details. And such of people, they find each other in different parts of the world. And as result such kind of situations happen. Sorry for sarcasm, but why this person named Bob or whoever he is had not stoped after first investment?.. did he try to find some more information about this scam team in the internet, chats, forums or telegram groups where lots of people are engaged in crypto, where there are lots of people with their own experience in crypto world?... It is a pity, but no police in the world will help him now, no other actions will bring the positive result in order to get his invested money....only move further on and be more attentive before investing such amounts of money in whatever it may be....((((( Just think twice...

It's an obligation to anyone to research once you throw your money out of your pocket. You should always concerned and not too lazy to allow
your investment with the hands of someone, curiosity wise, a friend of yours release money without any assurance then after that he didn't manage
to seek for some information about the business that he's investing with, there's no one can help him as crypto is not been cover yet by any regulations.

Do you have check your obligation with investment, many people can use fake obligation where you do not know how to identify scam or or not obligation, maybe you can invest with your self and looking which one can you manage for investing in property or gold investment.

I believe that real estate should be bought only with a very large drop in prices. An analogue is the price of Bitcoin at 4000 dollars. But this is if you already have your own real estate where you live. I'd rather invest in cryptocurrency assets.

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 18, 2019, 09:00:28 AM

Quote from: milani on October 17, 2019, 08:51:27 AM

Quote from: Lapatai on September 18, 2019, 02:20:55 AM

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Oh, it is a typical situation in the world of profit and money. Some are too inventive and make great really working schemes and pyramids. Really simple and ingenious. And some people are sometimes too greedy, sometimes too naive, sometimes just too inattentive to details. And such of people, they find each other in different parts of the world. And as result such kind of situations happen. Sorry for sarcasm, but why this person named Bob or whoever he is had not stoped after first investment?.. did he try to find some more information about this scam team in the internet, chats, forums or telegram groups where lots of people are engaged in crypto, where there are lots of people with their own experience in crypto world?... It is a pity, but no police in the world will help him now, no other actions will bring the positive result in order to get his invested money....only move further on and be more attentive before investing such amounts of money in whatever it may be....((((( Just think twice...

It's an obligation to anyone to research once you throw your money out of your pocket. You should always concerned and not too lazy to allow
your investment with the hands of someone, curiosity wise, a friend of yours release money without any assurance then after that he didn't manage
to seek for some information about the business that he's investing with, there's no one can help him as crypto is not been cover yet by any regulations.

Do you have check your obligation with investment, many people can use fake obligation where you do not know how to identify scam or or not obligation, maybe you can invest with your self and looking which one can you manage for investing in property or gold investment.

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Quote from: Lapatai on September 18, 2019, 02:20:55 AM

So okay, this story didn't happen to me. It happened to a friend (let's call him Bob) of a friend (I will call him Sam).
But he has an app (I don't know what app, because I heard it from Bob and he doesn't know either) which shows that Sam has doubled his investment (9000 EUR), but he cannot withdraw it now and these people (from Russia) are calling and rushing him to invest even more.

Bob asked me about that, I said that this is some nonsense. There shouldn't be people calling you and asking to transfer money. All is too fishy.

This is surely a scam and it would be best to stay away from it! Most of these applications only make you millions on their platform without being unable to withdraw the funds earned. This sort of schemes is actually archaic and only crypto noobs would fall for this. Stay away from quick gains guys, that's one of the quickest ways of falling vulnerable to scammers.

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If you get a call from a Russian country and offer an investment offer, then you should leave it alone and you don't need to give a response to them because they just want to try to influence you and make you fooled, you must be careful when and don't let you be affected.

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I call this planning fraud, right now there are a lot of scams like this. We must always be vigilant. I suggest that Sam never send money again,
there is no need to ask the police for help later the problem will become big. Just let it go Sam's money have been cheated, and don't deal anymore
with this Russian guy. And make this a valuable lesson to be more careful when getting an investment offer in large or small quantities. If you want
crypto investment for newbies just do it yourself and don't use third party services like brokers. Who will be there later got scam like Sam's case. Indeed, the crypto world is currently under examination, with many of its scammers hanging around. We ourselves can protect it more carefully in accepting investment offers or ICO projects.

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Quote from: milani on October 17, 2019, 08:51:27 AM

Quote from: Lapatai on September 18, 2019, 02:20:55 AM

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Oh, it is a typical situation in the world of profit and money. Some are too inventive and make great really working schemes and pyramids. Really simple and ingenious. And some people are sometimes too greedy, sometimes too naive, sometimes just too inattentive to details. And such of people, they find each other in different parts of the world. And as result such kind of situations happen. Sorry for sarcasm, but why this person named Bob or whoever he is had not stoped after first investment?.. did he try to find some more information about this scam team in the internet, chats, forums or telegram groups where lots of people are engaged in crypto, where there are lots of people with their own experience in crypto world?... It is a pity, but no police in the world will help him now, no other actions will bring the positive result in order to get his invested money....only move further on and be more attentive before investing such amounts of money in whatever it may be....((((( Just think twice...

It's an obligation to anyone to research once you throw your money out of your pocket. You should always concerned and not too lazy to allow
your investment with the hands of someone, curiosity wise, a friend of yours release money without any assurance then after that he didn't manage
to seek for some information about the business that he's investing with, there's no one can help him as crypto is not been cover yet by any regulations.

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Quote from: milani on October 17, 2019, 08:51:27 AM

Quote from: Lapatai on September 18, 2019, 02:20:55 AM

So okay, this story didn't happen to me. It happened to a friend (let's call him Bob) of a friend (I will call him Sam).

Bob came to me asking is this a scam and is it legal. Bob doesn't know much about bitcoins and crypto, Sam even less.
Sam somehow got in contact with people who offers to open an account and invest into crypto. These people guaranteed a lot of profit. Sam paid 500 EUR at first and other two times a 2000 EUR.
What is interesting, that these people calling him to invest more. But he has an app (I don't know what app, because I heard it from Bob and he doesn't know either) which shows that Sam has doubled his investment (9000 EUR), but he cannot withdraw it now and these people (from Russia) are calling and rushing him to invest even more.

Bob asked me about that, I said that this is some nonsense. There shouldn't be people calling you and asking to transfer money. All is too fishy.

What should Sam do? Will the police help?

Oh, it is a typical situation in the world of profit and money. Some are too inventive and make great really working schemes and pyramids. Really simple and ingenious. And some people are sometimes too greedy, sometimes too naive, sometimes just too inattentive to details. And such of people, they find each other in different parts of the world. And as result such kind of situations happen. Sorry for sarcasm, but why this person named Bob or whoever he is had not stoped after first investment?.. did he try to find some more information about this scam team in the internet, chats, forums or telegram groups where lots of people are engaged in crypto, where there are lots of people with their own experience in crypto world?... It is a pity, but no police in the world will help him now, no other actions will bring the positive result in order to get his invested money....only move further on and be more attentive before investing such amounts of money in whatever it may be....((((( Just think twice...

You can meet a lot of inattentive people in the cryptocurrency market. I think that the situation will change in the future and we will see a very strong cryptocurrency market. Market participants will conduct equal competition.

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Quote from: Lapatai on September 18, 2019, 02:20:55 AM

So okay, this story didn't happen to me. It happened to a friend (let's call him Bob) of a friend (I will call him Sam).

Bob came to me asking is this a scam and is it legal. Bob doesn't know much about bitcoins and crypto, Sam even less.
Sam somehow got in contact with people who offers to open an account and invest into crypto. These people guaranteed a lot of profit. Sam paid 500 EUR at first and other two times a 2000 EUR.
What is interesting, that these people calling him to invest more. But he has an app (I don't know what app, because I heard it from Bob and he doesn't know either) which shows that Sam has doubled his investment (9000 EUR), but he cannot withdraw it now and these people (from Russia) are calling and rushing him to invest even more.

Bob asked me about that, I said that this is some nonsense. There shouldn't be people calling you and asking to transfer money. All is too fishy.

What should Sam do? Will the police help?

Oh, it is a typical situation in the world of profit and money. Some are too inventive and make great really working schemes and pyramids. Really simple and ingenious. And some people are sometimes too greedy, sometimes too naive, sometimes just too inattentive to details. And such of people, they find each other in different parts of the world. And as result such kind of situations happen. Sorry for sarcasm, but why this person named Bob or whoever he is had not stoped after first investment?.. did he try to find some more information about this scam team in the internet, chats, forums or telegram groups where lots of people are engaged in crypto, where there are lots of people with their own experience in crypto world?... It is a pity, but no police in the world will help him now, no other actions will bring the positive result in order to get his invested money....only move further on and be more attentive before investing such amounts of money in whatever it may be....((((( Just think twice...

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Quote from: Palider on October 14, 2019, 08:10:20 AM

The police can be help if you provide more detailed information, so you should notify the authority involved in these cases in order to promptly take action and recover the stolen money.

Such investments that provide 100% interest are unreliable. So we should be carefull because the chances are high that this is 100% :scam.

Yes this is possible because recently I've read a news about some scammers getting arrested by the police with the help of some organization for anti-cybercriminal (I forgot the name). They manage to track down those scammers using the address they used for depositing, they follow the movemement of Bitcoin until it goes to a known exchange wherein the scammers are trying to convert their Bitcoin into fiat currency then the police coordinated with the exchange and found out the identity of those scammers.

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Quote from: jarhed on October 10, 2019, 12:18:34 PM

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on October 10, 2019, 07:57:35 AM

A common investment scam and that happens all the time and those newbie investors are the ones who are falling into this kind of trap.

First of all, there is no guarantee in investment (my first rule). Even in other investments, there are no guarantees so if you saw the word guaranteed profit the best thing to do is to stay away from the investment because it will end up as a scam.

Some scammers' strategy is that they will put in your dashboard an amount which is twice the money you invested but in reality, you can't withdraw it because in order to withdraw it you must invest a certain amount. Best thing to do to prevent being scammed is either you learn how scammers scam people or just don't invest at all.

I agree. That is just a bait. There is no investment that will double over night so go away from that and do not believe because if you do you gonna end up of losing than gaining from it. Very few can be trusted but other just copying the project with bad intentions. Beware where you are going to take your investments.

I can’t believe that there are so many people in the cryptocurrency space who believe in easy and quick money making in this market. We must understand that the rate of return on the cryptocurrency market also exists. I think that this rate of return is not more than 30% per year.

In 2017 it was possible to make 1000% profit, but it was just the rule exception. I suppose a similar situation will be not repeated, so, when you see that someone promises you the greatest income in the shortest time, it is a scam. As for me, it is much better to work with Bitcoin and trusted altcoins that have proved their reliability. You might not make fast money, but you will not lose everything.

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Quote from: Lapatai on September 18, 2019, 02:20:55 AM

So okay, this story didn't happen to me. It happened to a friend (let's call him Bob) of a friend (I will call him Sam).

Bob came to me asking is this a scam and is it legal. Bob doesn't know much about bitcoins and crypto, Sam even less.
Sam somehow got in contact with people who offers to open an account and invest into crypto. These people guaranteed a lot of profit. Sam paid 500 EUR at first and other two times a 2000 EUR.
What is interesting, that these people calling him to invest more. But he has an app (I don't know what app, because I heard it from Bob and he doesn't know either) which shows that Sam has doubled his investment (9000 EUR), but he cannot withdraw it now and these people (from Russia) are calling and rushing him to invest even more.

Bob asked me about that, I said that this is some nonsense. There shouldn't be people calling you and asking to transfer money. All is too fishy.

What should Sam do? Will the police help?

This is totally a scam. Your friend Sam has just lost his money and there is nothing he can do about that. You just need to advice him not to invest more. So far as it is an online investment something, there is little he can do to retrieve his lost money. People are always fooled by a get rich soon ponzi scheme so easily to the extent that I don't really understand.

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its scam investment scheme sa stay from away that . those investmetn that give guaranteed high return are mostly scam before investing check if they can really sustain the return they are giving.

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Look scam because bitcoin is not application and do not show your profit with several percent of your money, lest find the ideas maybe for first and second payment will be success but will the third payment success and next payment will be paid or not. Bitcoin will give you profit based on how much price grow up and when price down you can get profit with bitcoin, just an opinion you have move your money and ask Sam the correct investment he chooses because is not bitcoin.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on October 14, 2019, 10:30:53 AM

Quote from: Palider on October 14, 2019, 08:10:20 AM

The police can be help if you provide more detailed information, so you should notify the authority involved in these cases in order to promptly take action and recover the stolen money.

Call for the police? I don't think if they will listen to us. We know they don't have huge understanding of crypto, and I'd never think that they could solve this problem since they can't find solid proof for a scamming activity.

In my understanding the word "Crypto" was used only by thieves to attract the victim. So the money is not used to buy Bitcoin or any crypto currency.

So definitely one of the things our victim will use to give the money is the bank.

And if he did, the police working and covering such cases would play a big role.

However, the OP has even provided detailed information so that we can have an idea of what we should recommend to his friend.

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If Sam keeps on depositing money with them, he will only be responsible for his loss. Stop sending money to these scammers. These apps are self developed, self operated and self managed by those scammers, they can show you a big profit at any moment. Never trust such websites or apps which shows you a big profit or offers you high fixed return. Police can help SAM with lost funds if you identify the scammers and lodge a complaint against them.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on October 14, 2019, 10:30:53 AM

This is what we should have to do. Never get tempted into huge offerings cause it mostly scams.
Even though there is awareness about scam but we can't deny that many have still fallen into it. It sounds like they don't understand it or they just want to experience to be scammed... Grin

Most of them knew or feel that it can be a scammed attempt but because of greediness and hoping to earned big in a short period of time, they got tempted and still proceed. The whole idea of such big profits still followed by people who don't mind about losing money. They will just react right after that they've already got fooled by scammers. Avoiding things like this to happen needs a good balance of knowledge and assessment to the situations, always think twice before making any decisions.

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Quote from: Palider on October 14, 2019, 08:10:20 AM

The police can be help if you provide more detailed information, so you should notify the authority involved in these cases in order to promptly take action and recover the stolen money.

Call for the police? I don't think if they will listen to us. We know they don't have huge understanding of crypto, and I'd never think that they could solve this problem since they can't find solid proof for a scamming activity.

Quote from: Palider on October 14, 2019, 08:10:20 AM

Such investments that provide 100% interest are unreliable. So we should be carefull because the chances are high that this is 100% :scam.

This is what we should have to do. Never get tempted into huge offerings cause it mostly scams.
Even though there is awareness about scam but we can't deny that many have still fallen into it. It sounds like they don't understand it or they just want to experience to be scammed... Grin

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Quote from: jarhed on October 10, 2019, 12:18:34 PM

Quote from: Naughty Princess on October 10, 2019, 08:35:42 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on October 10, 2019, 07:57:35 AM

A common investment scam and that happens all the time and those newbie investors are the ones who are falling into this kind of trap.

First of all, there is no guarantee in investment (my first rule). Even in other investments, there are no guarantees so if you saw the word guaranteed profit the best thing to do is to stay away from the investment because it will end up as a scam.

Some scammers' strategy is that they will put in your dashboard an amount which is twice the money you invested but in reality, you can't withdraw it because in order to withdraw it you must invest a certain amount. Best thing to do to prevent being scammed is either you learn how scammers scam people or just don't invest at all.

I agree. That is just a bait. There is no investment that will double over night so go away from that and do not believe because if you do you gonna end up of losing than gaining from it. Very few can be trusted but other just copying the project with bad intentions. Beware where you are going to take your investments.

I can’t believe that there are so many people in the cryptocurrency space who believe in easy and quick money making in this market. We must understand that the rate of return on the cryptocurrency market also exists. I think that this rate of return is not more than 30% per year.

Why I believe that OPs Friend is a newbie in crypto and just being a victim because of his own greediness
.trusting random people that you only met online once?and suddenly entrusting money?this really hurt but no one to blame but Bob
This will be a lesson that he will never forget ,and the bad effect in crypto is another potential investors turns to be a victim and may not consider putting money inside our marker

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The police can be help if you provide more detailed information, so you should notify the authority involved in these cases in order to promptly take action and recover the stolen money.

Such investments that provide 100% interest are unreliable. So we should be carefull because the chances are high that this is 100% :scam.

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