Topic: Is this quality of life idea? (Read 528 times)

It's easy for me, just right click on the text or written token and click the option of "Search google "---"" it's lot easier for me to do.

this feature will mostly help in altcoin boards because there are too many tokens get discussed, which are not known by everyone.

In individual post, or any location where text can be written.

This is not a bad idea and it will make things easy for people to navigate to exchanges, and price trackers in other sites. And that should be done by the thread creator. If someone is creating a thread and mentioned those signs or symbols then he or she can hyperlink the sign to the original website of the symbol. And that will also depend on the content of the thread because if you hyperlink a wrong link then you have spoiled everything in the thread, and not all will need the link.

Yes whatever you create people must disagree to agree and not everyone will accept your idea. And what you said the OP, you did not mentioned where the hyperlink will be used. is it the individual threads has I said, or where?

What if someone says a word and a token exists by that name? That can be a scam token and lead an innocent person to lose his money. This is a good idea for a place like twitter. Can we search a topic directly from google by using the forum or by adding the topic URL from google to the forum with just one click? It can be useful for some people and only a waste of time for a few.

A wonderful idea I must confess but....

There are some downsides to the idea, the concept of adding '$' to coins/tokens will have made more sense if there were specific tickers assigned to specific projects but it's not that way. On cmc/cg, we have more than two projects having the same ticker. so, which coin/token should be embedded?

Except it will only be for major coins like Btc, Eth and co.

Although it works that way on X (twitter) but it's majorly for coins that are popular as mentioned above.

I want to propose an easy way of doing it if anyone is too lazy to do it manually. It is also manual but will take less time to do it. You won't have to search the web to get the link multiple times. This also prevents the wrong redirection from hyperlinks. This works in both Android and Windows 10 and 11 {Not available if you are using XP, Vista, 7 or 8}. Press down on the Windows key and V which will open Clipboard. You will have to enable it first. Then go to the website or the hyperlink you want to copy. Then type the full code for inserting the hyperlink.
i.e.
copy this code and then press the Windows key and V together and open the Clipboard and then click the 3 dot menu as shown in the picture to open up the menu to pin it on the clipboard so that after restart it stays there.



You can keep multiple codes saved in the clipboard. If you want to use it in the future, just click the key combo Windows+V and scroll up or down to select the code and press on it. It will get pasted right there.

Now let's talk about Android devices. It works on Google keyboard. Haven't tried any other so can't provide enough info. You can check if your keyboard has the option or not. If not then download Gboard.
Here is how it works. Go to your Gboard settings then click on Dictionary. Then click Personal Dictionary as shown below.


After that click on whatever language you are using. In my case, it's only English (US). Then click the + icon to add a new word.



Paste the code on the top and add the shortcut in the next box which you want to use for that code to appear on your keyboard. Then press the back arrow on the top left. After that come back to writing. Write the shortcut you used for that code, in my case Btc or btc. The whole code will show up in the middle on the keyboard bar. Press it and it will paste the code. It will also replace the shortcut you have written.




If you press space or continue your typing, the shortcut won't get pasted. You need to do it manually.
Hope this helps.

Personally, I don't really like this subliminally hidden information, which forces the user to move the mouse over it to see its content. It may be funny at first, but over time it is simply a useless and inconvenient resource. It's something I hate on websites, luckily it's gone a bit out of fashion. Because I always get the feeling that the site is trying to hide something, and that's not good.

Well this is just my opinion on this type of functionality.

Yep, I could do something like that. Not sure if it's a good idea though...

I don't always follow my own advice, but when I remember to, I like thinking of forum patches in terms of niftiness vs. usefulness, and then weighing the engineering effort (and maintenance burden) against that. OP's suggestion/idea (while appreciated) scores pretty poorly when looked at this way. That is, it both leans left on the nifty vs. useful scale, and it leans left on the messy-to-implement vs. easy-to-implement scale. The best feature suggestions lean right on both scales (that is, they're legitimately useful and don't add much complexity to the codebase). The next best kind are right-left (that is, they're useful, but might not admit a simple implementation). The worst kind are left-left (nifty rather than useful, and tricky to implement).

Lack of genuine usefulness aside (IMHO, of course), OP's idea is tricky to implement because it involves complicating SMF's message parsing code (which is already pretty hairy) with new syntax. Thinking in terms of the existing BBCode syntax would lead to a cleaner patch. So, OP's idea would be easier to implement if the proposal was to add a new BBCode tag, like: [coin]BTC[/coin].

However, if [coin]BTC[/coin] simply resolves to the same thing (for example) that [url=https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/]BTC[/url] would have, then its primary advantage (besides being able to switch out providers, I suppose) is brevity, and I don't think that's important enough to automatically link to some third party. If remembering (and typing out) longish BBCode sequences turns out to be at the heart of the problem statement, then I'd rather tackle that by adding a customizable "snippet" system to the BBCode editor, so that frequently used BBCode templates can be inserted easily (that would also address one of LoyceV's requests for a "split quote" feature that quickly inserts [/quote][quote], and it would probably find many other uses, too).

Another way to go (if we just concern ourselves with bitcoin, and with showing information directly) would be to modify the existing [btc] tag, so that in addition to rendering a little bitcoin symbol, it also displays the current price (and maybe other details) on mouse hover. (I still think that's probably more nifty than truly useful, though.)

It's unfortunate that the user was banned. Who knows what else he could have created that would be useful for the whole community.
I just watched the video demonstration of an older version of the extension at work. That one doesn't really have that many features I would personally need. The dark theme would come in handy occasionally. I am wearing a signature and avatar myself, so I find it illogical to block their visibility on my end. The link opening in new tabs works with a click of the central mouse wheel for those that want it. And finally, I see no problems with the font size, and I can always zoom in/out if needed.

But two of the new features mentioned in the change log seem interesting.
The first one is the Report to Moderator option. I am guessing you get a proper window or pop-up where you can submit a report in contrast to the one-line report field which is default on the forum? I remember I had a cell-phone in the 90s where you only had one line to write your SMS going left to right. Imagine how fun that was with long SMS messages.
And the second feature is the price box that appears on the forum.

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Yes, this is a very good add-on that I have been using for a while, created by member @mrvuit in this topic:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-extension-all-in-one-available-on-chrome-store-version-25-5178297

This Google Chrome extension has nothing to do with the BPIP add-on, it's a different extension.

Unfortunately, the member who created this tool was banned from the forum for violating the forum rules, but the add-on still works well and can be downloaded from the Google Chrome store via the link:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bitcointalk-script/ebkdbmfcjnnpoplaphlokgpehbddamcn

I have never heard of it. I know that there are various add-ons and themes created by different people for Bitcointalk, but I have never used any myself. Which script does that? Has it anything to do with the BPIP add-on? I am asking because I can see the icons that the BPIP add-on adds on the upper left of the screenshot you posted.

Yes, I am with you on this point. All members check the Bitcoin price several times a day and it would be very good if we saw the price fixed somewhere on the forum, but not for the price to be fetched by a third party.

I mean if the price of Bitcoin was displayed in a fixed place (at the top left of the forum page, for example) instead of placing a link to the price with the word “BTC” written every time.

For example, I use the BitcoinTalk Script add-on to display the price of Bitcoin and Ethereum at the top of the forum page as shown in the picture:

               

It would be nice to have a similar script integrated with the forum page.

The idea isn't useless. I am pretty sure that most people who are into bitcoin and crypto check the price daily, if not several times a day. Why not see it somewhere on Bitcointalk in a post instead of checking it elsewhere.   

That's what I am talking about as well. Why divert traffic away from Bitcointalk to CMC or CG if there is a solution that is better for the forum? It's not like CMC and CG sends any traffic our way or advertises the forum as a good knowledgebase for bitcoin.

What I wanted to say is that it doesn't make sense for the forum to automatically post dynamic information.

Furthermore, we already have an API available to be used here on the forum that helps in this regard. It was made by bitmover and can be found here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63171340

As I see, most members did not welcome the idea very much. I also do not find the idea useful for the forum from a practical standpoint. It may not seem like a bad idea, but at the same time it does not have much benefit.

We do not have to do free advertising for third parties. In addition, it is not possible to specify the preferred site for members to fetch prices. There are many members who do not prefer both sites (cmc/cg) and prefer a different site.

Also, do not forget that we are a forum to talk about Bitcoin, and the word "BTC" may appear thousands of times in different topics every day, so we do not have to fill the forum with useless links because they will certainly cause slow page performance and other problems.

Well, ofc it should be dynamic, otherwise what's the use.

Anyway, I have vague idea about dev stuff, but javaScript could be used for such stuff right?


That's not what I mean, proposed idea is more like, if user writes $btc or any other alt ticker, hovering over it would display that coin's price, hovering over is taken from comments here, it's better than click.

It will always be necessary to use an external API for the price to be displayed.
Either way, I don't think a mouse-over system or specific code should be used for the post. The price of bitcoin is constantly changing, so if something exists it must be dynamic.

What could happen was in the forum header, for example next to the date/time, the bitcoin price would also appear. That would be more interesting.

I don't like the idea of the forum linking to an outside source, and in that way signaling to the user to go and visit that website. Instead, we could think of a way to display price information right here on the forum. I am not a coder, so I don't know what is possible with the current forum software.

@PowerGlove please chip in. Could the forum display current BTC price when you swipe the mouse cursor over a word that contains a unique piece of code? As an example, we can use the proposed $BTC. Is that or something similar doable?

I agree and I thought about it too. It's like impossible to happen with Coinmarketcap and Coingecko because they are too big and also get income from their site operations. My point is more general than that, which I think you know too, relying on third-party sites is risky. It can bring troubles to the forum similar to problems with imgur.com website.

Watching price too much will be harmful for newbie investors. They will be less confident about their investment decision and it's harder for them to hold their bitcoins. With them, having more exposure to market price updates will cause more emotional and psychological issues.

I never see myself needing this feature. It might help newbies avoid scams, but they can easily do it by confirming or double-checking the website of said coins/tokens. It might also help people who are too lazy to type the right name (e.g. Bitcoin), but that's that. Compared to the cost and probably controversy around them, I'd say it is not needed. Google is just one tab away anyway.

Imo, the primary concern with this is that the cost of adding such a feature to simple machines forum (SMF) might not be worth it. So the cost might far outweigh the benefits and that should put a strain on the servers especially if more users keep using the $ symbol in order to get recent prices. More of the APIs are not even free to use at that scale.

What op is asking is a bit difficult from theymos since he doesn't have access and control to such site just few user already suggested and/ or any reputable member here can build a site that would be tie to this forum just as someone launched an easy way to upload images after the regular site do not allow image to be host on this forum. Maybe Bitcointalk can have their own price checking site where coin/token can also be listed and will be regularly used by members over here instead of having to browse other site to view price of bitcoin.

Hey mate @Gormicsta could you take a look at your post? Please kindly unquote yourself from the post to be well understandable, maybe you don't need to quote post before posting or better still learn before quoting.

I thought it was a suggestion to show the price of Bitcoin or the balance of a specific address, and then it would be understandable that the forum focuses on Bitcoin to have a task related to that, but adding a link can be done easily and manually.

In general, there are many improvements to the forum, and we may need another software.

Accurately said. Both CMC and Coingecko provides a more accurate and reliable real-time information and analysis on various cryptocurrencies unlike Preev which simply a ticker. And compared to Preev, they're more well-established platforms and are less likely to experience outages or stop working.

In addition, The company has a 40 man team with 6 data scientists, and Forbes estimates it earns between $20 million and $30 million a year in ad revenue. While Coingecko claims it has over $3 million in annual revenue and tracks over 3,587 tokens from over 259 exchanges. That's a lot of money if you ask me, so it's almost impossible for these companies to experience an outage with that kind of annual revenue.

I believe he would see this post and probably comment here to know his opinion based on what op said although most times he hardly finds time commenting in some post he finds not valuable or meaningful. I wonder how occupied he could be and, what op is suggesting is just something that will be favorable to him maybe if someone else comes and noticed any difficulties he would also want to suggest what will make him have easy access to what he wants by then the forum won't that safe anymore. What I sense from op is that he is a regular user of social media and he wants the entire environment of bitcointalk to looks as one but I can tell op with full assurance that here can never be like other social media, so any one who must stay in this environment most learn to be friendly with the forum.

Maybe Yes or No, but I believe for now they are still the best price checking site for cryptocurrencies there may be other site I don't know but for years now I can say they have most of the population of cryptocurrencies being listed in the site. Any coin/token that is listed there easily get great exposure especially in terms of price increase, still I don't doubt you but with time more site will overcome them.

It would somewhat handy especially for when talking about altcoins, but then there will be arguments on which sites to link to(CMC/CoinGecko/etc) and as well as people's moral/ethical standpoints against altcoins.

If this were to be implemented (which I totally doubt it would), it makes sense to only be in the Trading Discussion and Speculation sections.

Yeah, somehow I don't see Theymos going for a suggestion like this, especially since it would be creating code to link directly to sites out of his control.  And I don't know about coingecko, but CMC has been undergoing a lot of changes as of late and who's to say they're going to remain the top site for prices and such?  

Those in the know can probably search for a coin quickly, without the need for a direct link on the forum.  And even for those who wouldn't know where to look up info, I'm not sure the benefit of a function like this would outweigh the effort it'd take to implement (and I'm also not sure there would be any risk necessarily, but IMO it's just not a great idea).

That was floating around in my head as well, although I doubt CMC or coingecko are likely to periodically stop working like preev does.  Those two sites probably make money, whereas preev is just a ticker.

Did you think of where to link it too?

Coinmarketcap, Coingecko? They are all third party websites and they might just stop working or die like preev.com. There is no official website to link Bitcoin to only for checking price.

Preev.com is Down ?

You can have something like this after click on the link and visit a hyperlinked website.

I understand the idea, but it wouldn't actually enrich the forum, for several reasons:
- A user might not want their text to be associated with a link, regardless of what they wrote. He almost no longer had "power" over what he wrote.
- The forum is diverting its user traffic to third-party sites. And the objective is for the user to remain on the forum for as long as possible.
- Which site would you choose? I had to earn something to be giving traffic to that site. Something that goes against the forum's own "rules", where affiliate links are not well seen (especially when they are hidden).
- A user could like CMC more than CG, or vice versa. Taking into account that it was the user who wrote the post, how do you choose the site you prefer?
- Technically it is possible, but it is not very useful for the community.

Therefore, despite understanding the idea, I think it is not useful for the forum, nor does it make sense for such functionality to exist.

It doesn't seem like a bad idea, but it just looks like it's not going to have much use on the forum because it's quite easy for some to search on Google for Bitcoin price or whatever token or coin they want, and they will just get a result pointing to CMC or CG. It's not much of a big deal to get a coin's details through the coin tracking sites like the two popular ones you mentioned. I know that lately, there have been so many requests and ideas for some features, local boards, subboards, and applications for merit sources that seem very important but are still pending. I am not condemning your idea, but I believe that the boss T would come across all this, and he would only add the one he was well convinced about.

You don't tell us what the goal is - but it doesn't seem like forums will automatically increase traffic to any site unless both parties are affiliated. I'm sure admin don't approve your request or idea - it seems very likely to be ignored, but someone could make a custom script for this idea.

I think your idea is useful - users can easily track bitcoin prices while increasing site traffic. Such hyper links are not really expected - they are a kind of free advertising as most users do.

To be honest, Im not really feeling this idea and do not see how it would be useful.  It would basically just be giving free promo to some random third party site like CMC or CG, which seems pointless unless there is some kind of mutual benefit for the BitcoinTalk peeps.  There is also the issue that if the service goes down for whatever reason, it would leave a ton of broken links all over the forum.  

I'm not really sure that such thing would be actively used here. Not against proposal, but I don't think that we need theymos involvenent here. As said above, if there is demand, someone can make script for it, I don't think that it would be very difficult for person with knowledge.
Also, I see little issue in this proposal. If such thing would be implemented, Bitcointalk would have endorse 3rd party website like Coingecko. I'm not sure that theymos want that.

That was the idea of Op to save some time as the first poster has said because only typing the $ sign as a prefix behind every ticker would save many Op a lot of time but I think its implementation is not possible or would be an easy task because a lot of people use dollar sign behind the token ticker I don't see many here but on almost all the website's articles they use dollar sign behind the ticker.

Overall, I like the idea but as I said its implementation seems impossible but there is no shame in proposing new ideas who knows what might attract theymos?

Adbitco we can hyperlink any word using the tags but this would save us a lot of time I guess. Don't you think?

Instead of this being implemented why don’t we talk of something more useful like this: A small merit-sending UI tweak, this will be more useful than your current suggestion although it might be useful to some.

And btw, what do you think will happen if a user decide to just include a special character in his post that turns out to be a ticker? Or some random token comes up with a token that its ticker is not found in cmc/cg what would be the result? It would only just make the post be filled with so many urls that lead to nowhere, if someone wants to checker out a token then they should do it the way they have been doing it… after all this is not an app its a forum so all they have to do is to open a new tab aid they don’t want to lose their current screen and search for whatever it is that they want to search.

It does read like that.

I doubt this is something theymos would implement and I don't think it's necessary nor would it be popular but someone could easily make a script for it.

This function mostly work better with social media especially when you # or $ it stand as key to link up the post to site or to all content where such article or posts are also mentioned. But btw I don't think if such would be implemented here as since this is a forum and not a social media like Facebook or twitter (x) maybe linkedin, is more related to such site however here is a community that focuses on discussion and not to hashtags any website instead you can get direct link of the website and hyperlinked it while making post or use such site you are including as a reference purpose to your content.

So you are proposing an idea and I thought this is a thing already in functioning haha silly me. Well, I liked the idea and it will make things really quick while talking about the token but what if any token will not be listed on these (CMC/CG) sites, or what good it brings for us?

I mean people search for the tokens/coins on these sites when they have to get the live price, trading volume, etc., etc. Or some specific information according to the post in which it has been used like "the trading volume is skyrocketing" One might want to see that and this automatically hyper linkage can take us straight there and can save our 30s.

Well, small ideas will always save time, but in my opinion, the developers of this forum should add an equal sign in front of IMG and LINK tag so we don't have to write it manually <-- This suggestion can save more time of ours. And still idea is an idea and you made a good one.

Whenever someone mentions coin ticker with prefix $, site automatically hyperlinks it to coin tracking site (cmc/cg). For example, $BTC, will be automatically hyperlinked like this $BTC.

It's just idea I had in mind, it could be useless but I wouldn't know, second person can judge better.