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hawks5999

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Quote from: nhodges on June 24, 2011, 08:10:24 PM

...High fee or high payouts where bets stagnate by a person who made a 10BTC deposit and is waiting for a payout of 15BTC, allowing the operator (scammer, imo, in this case) to receive up to 4 BTC for free.

There is no free for an operator. Either you coded an automatic game (which has value) or you run it manually. Running it manually is TIME CONSUMING. I ran a specifically targeted high-roller game and if I compare the BTC I walked away with to the time I spent managing the game I'm well under minimum wage. Heck, I'm under minimum wage of 20 years ago. BTCLottery is right - you have to want to offer the games which is why I ran exactly ONE game and won't operate another.

Delicious

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Dedicated section would be welcome. I don't resent the number of games popping up though. If you're smart about it, they are great way to increase your early mining rewards. It will increase BTC usage and I think gambling will be a primary component of BTC popularity going from niche to mainstream.

nhodges

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Quote from: btcLottery on June 24, 2011, 06:31:34 PM

Quote from: hawks5999 on June 24, 2011, 06:08:28 PM

I agree with a separate section. Though it's possible they would die out when the operators see what little money there is to be had in operating them.

This is true, you have to want to do this. Because I can attest, the money that I personally make is pennies. I just like *doing* it.

Most people that have taken to operating pools (esp the low fee ones) are doing it simply to move Bitcoins around. High fee or high payouts where bets stagnate by a person who made a 10BTC deposit and is waiting for a payout of 15BTC, allowing the operator (scammer, imo, in this case) to receive up to 4 BTC for free.

btcLottery

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Quote from: hawks5999 on June 24, 2011, 06:08:28 PM

I agree with a separate section. Though it's possible they would die out when the operators see what little money there is to be had in operating them.

This is true, you have to want to do this. Because I can attest, the money that I personally make is pennies. I just like *doing* it.

hawks5999

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I agree with a separate section. Though it's possible they would die out when the operators see what little money there is to be had in operating them.

btcLottery

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I 100% agree with a gambling/lottery section. I myself have learned some etiquette and now reuse older posts instead of creating new ones. I can imagine as a non-gambling bitcoin business having to wade through tons of gambling posts would be annoying. But yes, bring on the gambling section!

RevolutionMaster

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Quote from: foggyb on June 24, 2011, 11:12:16 AM

Quote from: dank on June 23, 2011, 05:47:16 PM

They will die out once people realize what a scam some of them are.

People know that casinos (online or B&M) will almost always win in the end, but they still go there to gamble.

Not only this, but in the ponzi scheme system, the operator has little to no incentive to collapse the pyramid, and in most cases, it benefits them to make sure that it goes for as long as possible. My pool has had something like 84% of the people this round get paid back.

In the ponzi-scheme system, it's not operator vs. the users, which makes things different from a traditional casino game.

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Quote from: dank on June 23, 2011, 05:47:16 PM

They will die out once people realize what a scam some of them are.

People know that casinos (online or B&M) will almost always win in the end, but they still go there to gamble.

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Quote from: FreeMoney on June 23, 2011, 05:36:55 PM

+1 dedicated forum

^^

Seems no-ones listening tho Sad

Serge

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Cyber Wild Wild West =)

I would play poker tho

and +1 to keep this forum clean

tysat

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Keep it real

Quote from: Jimerson on June 24, 2011, 09:16:01 AM

+1 A seperate section would make wading through the marketplace much easier.

Check out this thread I created a few days ago. Might be able to get one created if enough interest is shown in it.

Jimerson

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+1 A seperate section would make wading through the marketplace much easier.

adalov

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I enjoy the Ponzi schemes and other games available, plus they generate good interest in Bitcoin. They create a use for the currency beyond the few businesses that accept BTC. That being said, I agree 100% with creating a separate section for these as it can be difficult to find non-game threads in this board.

phungus

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I'm doin' fine on cloud 9

This is better than Vegas or online casinos. :-)

anodyne

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I was thinking of a "lounge" type board on the main section. There's already the off-topic forum, but that should be reserved for threads with discussion value, so the lounge would be for things with less substance like various games and threads with pictures of kittens and other things that tend to pop up on all forums on the net.

Edit: Maybe a child board to Off-topic would be better than a whole new board.

tysat

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Keep it real

I feel responsible for every single 'double trouble' type thread in here.... I started one back up about a week ago because the guy who did it originally had left. Every time I look at this subforum I feel like I've created a monster.

Elokane

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Truth is a consensus among neurons www.synereo.com

I'm very happy to see the immediate positive response! Rock on guys.

nhodges

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It also gives people in the US a way to gamble semi-legally, since it's not an official "currency"

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Quote from: Elokane on June 23, 2011, 04:54:36 PM

A place for pyramid games and other lotteries?

+1 for sure. I totally agree with what you feel about this forum. I feel that there is a place for all of these pyramid and lottery games though in bitcoin. Its fun and it gives people entertainment/ways to spend-earn BTC. However, these should be placed in a subforum so that its manageable for people who aren't interested. Also, to the OP, it seems as if your question has seen a great response as most of the games have stopped either totally or have stopped being bumped. Personally I have held off on my lightning rounds until a subforum is made to prevent spammage (if thats a word). Thanks for bringing it to our attention

Tawsix

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I have always been afraid of banks.

Yeah there was a post about this in meta, it would really be nice to not have to wade through the twenty different PENTA TROUBLE and x 20 PROFIT threads...

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