Is Tornado cash still up and usable? - page 2.

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I've been wondering why it's called whirwind but I can't figure out where you got it from. Grin

Quote from: dansus021 on May 04, 2023, 08:09:28 PM

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Quote from: hugeblack on May 04, 2023, 11:00:54 AM

Why the site interface is similar to the mixing service from @whierwindmoney, the similarity is almost close to matching.

I thought I was the only one who noticed it

Especially the side of the statistics where there is anonymity set Shocked

Maybe they got some inspiration from tornado.cash

Neither this whirlwind got inspiration from tornado cash nor the maker from the tornado cash family But both are great Grin

The only difference is that tornado is (air-based phenomenon) while whirlwind is (earth-based phenomenon)^[1].
Also the extension tornado.cash while whirlwind.money Tongue

[1] https://homework.study.com/explanation/what-is-the-difference-between-a-tornado-and-a-whirlwind.html#:~:text=Answer%20and%20Explanation%3A,is%20an%20earth%2Dbased%20phenomenon.

Quote from: Beparanf on May 04, 2023, 01:22:52 PM

I don’t know if using the current service is worth the risk knowing how this project was already under the watch of the government.

There is no guarantee that any future version will be run by the government or that there will be development of the project.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on May 04, 2023, 11:16:58 AM

Quote from: hugeblack on May 04, 2023, 11:00:54 AM

Why the site interface is similar to the mixing service from @whierwindmoney, the similarity is almost close to matching.

I thought I was the only one who noticed it

Especially the side of the statistics where there is anonymity set Shocked

Maybe they got some inspiration from tornado.cash

Haha it is the same things I just look and the color is the same too whirlwind background logo is a tornado from a side look while the tornado cash is from the above and the statistic too only whirlwind has a bigger box. Neither this whirlwind got inspiration from tornado cash nor the maker from the tornado cash family But both are great Grin

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Quote from: Beparanf on April 22, 2023, 06:48:26 PM

AFAIK, the dev is already in the jail and the last update they made was August last year with an existing problem with their code. I think tornado cash is long gone and this new website is just made by someone trying to use the brand with their own gain.

I think this new tornado cash hype is due to the news that the dev is considered to be set free.

https://decrypt.co/137355/dutch-court-agrees-to-free-tornado-cash-dev-alex-pertsev-pending-trial

I reckon you do not understand how this works. The smart contracts are immutable and cannot be censored, only the frontend is censored. Anyone can still connect and mix their coins with the smart contract directly.

I didn’t said that smart contract is fake. What I’m telling in my post was the original tornado.cash brand is long gone since the dev is already on the jail. The project is being taken care of by someone and this was being watched by government.

I don’t know if using the current service is worth the risk knowing how this project was already under the watch of the government.

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Quote from: dansus021 on May 03, 2023, 11:16:57 PM

according the twitter account of tornado cash https://twitter.com/TornadoCash it seems the link that you provide is real. But it seem the transaction is getting lower I mean before freeze and police arrive to the site

Thye probably added the link to the profile recently. When I made the post, it was still the old link of tornado.cash. Thanks for pointing this out.

Quote from: hugeblack on May 04, 2023, 11:00:54 AM

Why the site interface is similar to the mixing service from @whierwindmoney, the similarity is almost close to matching.

I thought I was the only one who noticed it

Especially the side of the statistics where there is anonymity set Shocked

Maybe they got some inspiration from tornado.cash

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on April 22, 2023, 06:35:43 PM

I have come across a tornado cash looking site, but I am not sure if it's real or a phishing site?

https://ipfs.io/ipns/tornadocash.eth/

Why the site interface is similar to the mixing service from @whierwindmoney, the similarity is almost close to matching.
It seems that the site is real, but I advise you to stay away from it. The developer has been arrested and service is under Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) and there are many accusations of this service for that, especially for account based cryptos.

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according the twitter account of tornado cash https://twitter.com/TornadoCash it seems the link that you provide is real. But it seem the transaction is getting lower I mean before freeze and police arrive to the site

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Quote from: Beparanf on April 22, 2023, 06:48:26 PM

AFAIK, the dev is already in the jail and the last update they made was August last year with an existing problem with their code. I think tornado cash is long gone and this new website is just made by someone trying to use the brand with their own gain.

I think this new tornado cash hype is due to the news that the dev is considered to be set free.

https://decrypt.co/137355/dutch-court-agrees-to-free-tornado-cash-dev-alex-pertsev-pending-trial

I reckon you do not understand how this works. The smart contracts are immutable and cannot be censored, only the frontend is censored. Anyone can still connect and mix their coins with the smart contract directly.

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The Tornado Cash smart contract is immutable and hence is still live on the Ethereum blockchain. I'm not sure about that IPFS site, but you can still use Tornado Cash today as long as you know how to manually interact with the smart contract.

Take note that Ethereum and "DeFi" is pretty much useless if a takedown of its front-end website literally kills the platform. The authorities can only take down the domain and the front-end; but the back-end will always be live.

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There are news as well that only that american citizens cannot use the mixer but their site is not up.

That site posted was on their official twitter, but i cannot see any tweet related from them to that new site.

While on the other hand, one of the co-dev who create tornado cash is making a new one^[1].

[1[ https://twitter.com/ameensol/status/1632083054272430080

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AFAIK, the dev is already in the jail and the last update they made was August last year with an existing problem with their code. I think tornado cash is long gone and this new website is just made by someone trying to use the brand with their own gain.

I think this new tornado cash hype is due to the news that the dev is considered to be set free.

https://decrypt.co/137355/dutch-court-agrees-to-free-tornado-cash-dev-alex-pertsev-pending-trial

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I have come across a tornado cash looking site, but I am not sure if it's real or a phishing site?

https://ipfs.io/ipns/tornadocash.eth/

We know the original site was blacklisted (https://tornado.cash)

I am seeing another alternative on the Wikipedia page, but they don't look similar to the one above (https://beacon.cash)
This is what I got from the wiki

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado_Cash

After the sanctions on Tornado Cash, numerous attempts were made to create new mixers. One of the major privacy concerns with Ethereum staking is the potential exposure of personal information and counterparty risks. To address these issues, a new mixer called Beacon.Cash has been developed using Tornado Cash core contracts. The protocol was created by Alexey Pertsev, who also developed Tornado Cash. While it is primarily used as a way to tumble crypto, it may also face sanctions for its potential use in staking.

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