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legendary
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This is funny. Trump is in a similar spot regarding media.


Why they hate PewDiePie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dICPJypfegc



Don't watch the below unless you have a little extra time:


cows & cows & cows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FavUpD_IjVY



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legendary
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Not a bad idea. but to be honest and equal about it, you'd have to impeach the whole government.


White House petition demands Nancy Pelosi be removed for treason



A petition posted to the White House “We the People” website demands that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., be removed from office for treason over her refusal to provide the necessary security on the southern border.

The petition, which can be seen here, demands: “Impeach Nancy Pelosi for crimes of Treason!”

The petition reads:

Nancy Pelosi is a TRAITOR to the American People!
The Constitution defines, “Treason against the US.. ..adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.” Illegal aliens are enemies that invade our country with drugs, human trafficking, and terrorist causing death and crime to American citizens. Nancy Pelosi adheres to these enemies by voting for and providing them aid and comfort through Sanctuary policies funded by US citizen tax dollars, and refuses to protect American people by refusing to fund our border wall, leaving our borders open and unsafe. Pelosi refused to meet with Angel families, caused the government shut down then traveled on US dollars to Hawaii and Puerto Rico while 800,000 Fed workers don’t get paid, and uninvited Trump for SOTU. IMPEACH Pelosi for treason!


The empire strikes back.


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legendary
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The media doesn't hate Trump. They are simply out there to make money. And they have decided that there is more money to be made by appearing to hate him.

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This is rather simplistic. It started out as being for profit, then it shifted into a motive to cover for their sugar daddies, then it became complicity, now they are in cover their ass mode.

Very true, it has gone above just for business profit, it's now getting personally as the days go by.
legendary
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The media doesn't hate Trump. They are simply out there to make money. And they have decided that there is more money to be made by appearing to hate him.

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This is rather simplistic. It started out as being for profit, then it shifted into a motive to cover for their sugar daddies, then it became complicity, now they are in cover their ass mode. If they fail a lot of people in the media will be seeing lots of time in court rooms and cells, not to mention bankruptcies galore.
legendary
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The media doesn't hate Trump. They are simply out there to make money. And they have decided that there is more money to be made by appearing to hate him.

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legendary
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It was Trump or Clinton

On a technical level Trump plays seem idiotic yet they are very effective. ....

It was "seem idiotic yet effective" versus "seem idiotic and really was."
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I might not be a citizen of the United States but I'm a 100% trump fan. Although I still prefer trump the businessman more than the politician. I just saw this tweet above and it got me laughing and thinking at the same time. Is trump the problem or are the US government/media confused I ask this question based on the fact that,  if it was a more likable president that suggested the building of the wall he/she would had been supported massively but because it's trump everyone now against it.
Just saying...

media will always reverse every issues for as long as they can make it viral or atleast people will buy onto it. Donald Trump is a good president, he is like Rodrigo Duterte of the philippines, they are both frank on and off the camera and that makes them my favorite.
legendary
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It was Trump or Clinton

On a technical level Trump plays seem idiotic yet they are very effective.
However he has valid points at times especially about media manipulation in the United States and his willingness to call them out on it at all times and he is accurate more often than not and the media hates him for that even more than the usual Republican President who tried to play nice.

On social media, if Trump was not the president he would have no social media platforms to speak on outside of Gabs etc just highlights the bias.

On the Wall, they say it won't work but honestly they would need to try it, the sum is paltry the US Defense Budget is 639 Billion a 5.7 Billion Dollar Wall with a defined cost per category of spending is reasonable.

That said reasonable is a swear word within Washington and agreeing in any way shape or form is considered Cancer to the Democrats and immigrants vote Democrat so why kill their base.

On the other hand even with the Wall
There is likely going to be corruption at the border from the Mexican Cartel with Security agents, they will pretend it is valid entry as long as you pay the amount to go in.
Put in 20,000 split it between officers get into the USA

The Wall would be more of a poverty blocker than anything else.

If Trump makes the wall he definitely will get a cut from some business interests that is his Schtick after all, indirectly although that much should be obvious.

$5.7 billion to fund a steel barrier system, including embedded investments in technology and roads, on our southern border in the priority areas cited by Border Patrol.
This is in addition to the more than 115 miles of barriers already built, replaced, or contracted under President Trump.
$805 million for technology, canines, and personnel to help stop the flow of illegal drugs, weapons and other contraband. This includes:
$675 million for drug detection inspection technology to help secure our ports of entry.
$130 million for canine units, training, personnel and portable scanners to help deter and detect smuggled narcotics, weapons, and other dangerous materials.
$800 million dollars in humanitarian assistance, medical support, and new temporary housing.
$782 million to hire an additional 2,750 border agents, law enforcement officers, and staff.
$563 million to support our immigration court system, including hiring 75 new immigration judge teams to reduce the immigration court backlog of 800,000 cases.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trumps-plan-reopen-government-fund-border-security/

That said the current media Narrative is to put the Onus on Trump to Compromise we should run a bet on how long this goes.

legendary
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There are two problems:
1. The banking system;
2. The ignorance of the people.

Trump and the media are simply there to distract the people so they don't lose their ignorance about the banking system.

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legendary
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If I were Pelosi or Trump, I would start negotiating a deal that includes the wall.  The dems can't ask for anything because they don't actually want to fix anything but I would ask for DACA amnesty instead of 3 years temporary status.  I would probably ask for increased capacity for processing asylum seekers at all southern points of entry.  I would give him the wall in return and the government may open.  Maybe Trump would deny but the democrats aren't offering ANYTHING.

Now, I dont trust that donal trump is a president of america. He is just a businessman, not a politic......

A majority of voting Americans saw that as the solution, not the problem...

So far it looks like we were right...

My test of whether he is good is very simple. Can he solve the problem of North Korea.
I'll give it to you he has done a great job with North Korea but the hawks and MSM pundits act like he is handing Kim the infinity stones.

Well, maybe they will wake up and make a deal. But so far doubling down on stupid has been the measure of their merit.

If you LOOK AT THE ACTUAL LIST OF SPENDING in the border proposal that Trump made and the Dems rejected, it is very clear they are acting as anti-American agents. There's no plausible reason such a bill should have been rejected. The US Democrats are not in favor of open borders. Granted, some diseased section of their leadership may be (through payoffs, extortion and propaganda from international power brokers such as Soros for the most part). But the voters are not, never have been and never will.

As for NK I think we have a genuine breakthrough possible but it hasn't totally happened yet, and if he pulls that off what should happen is really quite simple.

If that breakthrough does happen, all the "NEVER TRUMPERS" and the "Degenerate Democrats" totally just need to get off the crazy wagon, and shut the fuck up with their negativity.
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If I were Pelosi or Trump, I would start negotiating a deal that includes the wall.  The dems can't ask for anything because they don't actually want to fix anything but I would ask for DACA amnesty instead of 3 years temporary status.  I would probably ask for increased capacity for processing asylum seekers at all southern points of entry.  I would give him the wall in return and the government may open.  Maybe Trump would deny but the democrats aren't offering ANYTHING.

Now, I dont trust that donal trump is a president of america. He is just a businessman, not a politic......

A majority of voting Americans saw that as the solution, not the problem...

So far it looks like we were right...

My test of whether he is good is very simple. Can he solve the problem of North Korea.
I'll give it to you he has done a great job with North Korea but the hawks and MSM pundits act like he is handing Kim the infinity stones.
newbie
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Refreshing to see how a businessman as opposed to a politician runs a country although some of the self publicity seems over the top.
legendary
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Well, you may have a point there. "Out of control," as opposed to "Yes, we career Washington people can control him."

I know which I'll pick.

Sure.

I don't like him but I understand why he got elected. Can't be worse than Hitlery.

I don't understand people who litteraly cried after the election. What you prefered the wallstreet bitch?
I would have cried when they announced the candidates I guess xD

Same thing happened in France in last election, I was completely depressed after the first part of the election when only the last 2 were possible choice. Macron or Lepen. Plague or cholera. Chose.
Couldn't care less of who won. Both were shit.

No, it wasn't the same thing. Not at all. Because Trump is just a business practical type guy. Voting him in was a rebellion against the problem that you cite (bolded). And in the world of business, certain of your critiques do not apply. (Example: Trump is an asshole. Response: Totally irrelevant, question is does he product results on time and under budget, and does his company make a profit.)

legendary
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Wake up! Government has always been in the hands of the people, locally. Outside of war efforts, all that government is there for is to make money for the people in government.

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legendary
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I must ssay Trump really has the whole system in checkmate.  He's been playing 3D chess and has been several steps ahead this entire time.  The Dems have no way out of this current situation without losing.  Trump is like the joker to them and they have no batman to save them.  

The media has no idea how trump operates.  They give him free material by attacking everything he does.  They lost all credibility long ago and haven't realized it. The media is siding with the dems on all of their positions and shouldn't be taking positions to begin with.  The media is confirming everything Trump accused them of with each situation.  Trump has this whole thing on a string.  

I hate the fucking wall but it seems like giving him the wall is the best way out at this point from a perspective of loss mitigation.  I don't think the democrats realize this and think perpetual chaos (Trump's element) will somehow end in their favor.  We are already about to lose more money from the shutdown than he was asking for the wall.  Dems have always supported border security including some type of barrier so its an odd redline at this point.  

All of this is making Trump look stronger and more dependable to his base.  Its all distracting from the Mueller probe.  I wish a democrat could explain to me how they think this will end and how this strategy is a winning one.  

https://victorygirlsblog.com/democrats-were-for-border-security-and-against-illegal-immigration-until-trump/

The House and Senate Democrats do not care that the government is shut down. Nor do they care about the 800,000 federal employees who have been without pay since January 1, 2019. What they DO care about is thumbing their nose at Trump even as we now see that they were for Border Security and against illegal immigration, until Trump came along.

As Deanna wrote here, what Trump is offering is quite the deal.

5.7 billion to fund a steel barrier system, including embedded investments in technology and roads, on our southern border in the priority areas cited by Border Patrol.
This is in addition to the more than 115 miles of barriers already built, replaced, or contracted under President Trump.
$805 million for technology, canines, and personnel to help stop the flow of illegal drugs, weapons and other contraband. This includes:
$675 million for drug detection inspection technology to help secure our ports of entry.
$130 million for canine units, training, personnel and portable scanners to help deter and detect smuggled narcotics, weapons, and other dangerous materials.
$800 million dollars in humanitarian assistance, medical support, and new temporary housing.
$782 million to hire an additional 2,750 border agents, law enforcement officers, and staff.
$563 million to support our immigration court system, including hiring 75 new immigration judge teams to reduce the immigration court backlog of 800,000 cases.
legendary
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Well, you may have a point there. "Out of control," as opposed to "Yes, we career Washington people can control him."

I know which I'll pick.

Sure.

I don't like him but I understand why he got elected. Can't be worse than Hitlery.

I don't understand people who litteraly cried after the election. What you prefered the wallstreet bitch?
I would have cried when they announced the candidates I guess xD

Same thing happened in France in last election, I was completely depressed after the first part of the election when only the last 2 were possible choice. Macron or Lepen. Plague or cholera. Chose.
Couldn't care less of who won. Both were shit.
legendary
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Now, I dont trust that donal trump is a president of america. He is just a businessman, not a politic......

A majority of voting Americans saw that as the solution, not the problem...

So far it looks like we were right...

My test of whether he is good is very simple. Can he solve the problem of North Korea.
newbie
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Now, I dont trust that donal trump is a president of america. He is just a businessman, not a politic. why dont he come to white house to work for financial ministry?
legendary
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But the fact is that he's the first one completely out of control xD

There is really a huge "I don't give a fuck" coming from him. That makes him different from all the previous POTUS.

Well, you may have a point there. "Out of control," as opposed to "Yes, we career Washington people can control him."

I know which I'll pick.
legendary
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Trump is a problem. It's just that he is less of a problem than other presidents.

The OP is a simple example of the problematic situation.

Post #2 shows us where the real problem lies. It isn't the media, although the media exacerbates the problem.

So, where is the problem? The problem is that most of the people aren't picking up their freedom. Rather, they are trying to get government people to give them their freedom. When they do this, they are really accepting indentureship (slavery) to government. What do I mean?

As an example, consider the border crisis used as the example in the OP. There are some "citizens" who want their relatives to come up over the border. There are other "citizens" who want workers to come up over the border. But there are also "citizens" who don't want anybody who was not born within the territorial borders of the 50 States to come in, over the borders.

Where is freedom? The freedom should be to let them come, but to enslave them in prison if they injure (harm, or damage the property of) anyone else.

This is where the Private Membership Association (PMA) comes in. PMAs are outside of all kinds of government controls, because government is here to regulate the public, not the private. There is/are Constitution, Amendments, and loads of court cases that say this. So...

Make a PMA for just about any over-the-border purpose... like teaching Spanish with an emphasis on Mexican customs, by Mexican teachers, to people within the U.S. Find Mexican teachers who will join the PMA by signature on the documentation. Then privately bring them up over the border, keeping them in the PMA car so that they don't go into the public. This is outside the purview of the authority of the U.S. Government, because it is a PMA.

House the Hispanic teachers in PMA housing. Make them work for their living on PMA jobs in PMA buildings on PMA property. Use PMA Bitcoin to pay them. If they break their PMA agreement that they signed, turn them over to U.S. authorities for acting outside the privateness of the PMA.

Anyway, you get the picture. As long as they remain in the PMA properly, they will harm nobody. If they injure anyone, they are acting outside the PMA contract, and should be punished just like any other criminal.

What does this do? It places the freedom back on the U.S. people. It takes usurpation of authority that they don't have, away from the President and Congress. It places legal regs back where they should be... freedom when there is no harm or damage done. It makes sure that there will be no harm or damage done; but if there is, it punishes the Hispanic criminal... and maybe more than the "citizen" criminal.

DuckDuckGo search on "Private Membership Association." Also, search on Karl Lentz, especially in Youtube, to see how to make PMA stuff work in a strong way.

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