Is violence really the key to a drug-free country? - page 4.

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Quote from: DarkKnight68 on June 30, 2017, 07:48:08 AM

Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

no, not necessarily by violence in dealing with drug problems, because violence can not always overcome a problem and also excessive violence resulting in human rights violations.
to overcome the problem of drug use and addiction the most important is the approach of self and early education about the dangers of drug use, starting from the smallest scope of the family, where family members play an important role in controlling and monitoring each family members so as not to fall drug use that can cause addiction .
the government and its officials certainly have a program to overcome the problem of drugs, the government of course also has a strict regulation on drug abuse, we as a community must certainly support the government program so that there is no drug abuse and no violence needed to solve the problem.

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Quote from: DarkKnight68 on June 30, 2017, 07:48:08 AM

Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

There is a saying that when persuasion fails, then force is applied, With the drug issue in society, the people that is the drug dealers are always armed to the teeth and there is no way that they will stop doing something that brings them lots of money.They need to fought before they see reason. The time for negotiations has been over for a very long time.

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Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on September 01, 2017, 10:09:08 AM

Addiction is a mental illness, look, you can addicted to almost anything, be it FB or porn, etc. With substance abuse, the changes the chemicals make in the brain starts a vicious cycle. So no, I don't think violence would get anywhere, it never does.

Might as well teach citizens from a very young age how to adapt to stress and stuff without resorting to these. Teaching psychology at school would also be useful.

There is no vicious cycle with most drugs. Psychedelics, MDMA and Cannabis don't have any addictive effects and Psychedelics and MDMA even have "anti-addictive" effects due to very fast increases in tolerance. Basically, you have to leave a few weeks or months in between to get the same effects, so there's no issue. Stimulants and Opiates are dangerous in the way that you suggest, but even that is a result of no self-restraint.
If someone has problems with drugs, they would have problems anyways in their life. Either with money, or with health (drinking), or poor impulse control and always getting into fights with people.
Drugs are not to blame, people are 100% at fault.

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Addiction is a mental illness, look, you can addicted to almost anything, be it FB or porn, etc. With substance abuse, the changes the chemicals make in the brain starts a vicious cycle. So no, I don't think violence would get anywhere, it never does.

Might as well teach citizens from a very young age how to adapt to stress and stuff without resorting to these. Teaching psychology at school would also be useful.

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Violence is not solution for any kind of problem. Violence can just cause more problems examples of that are everywhere around us. What is drug? Educate yourself about different herbs, only with the decriminalization of many herbs we solve the problem with many chemical substances that people are using now. Not legalization, decriminalization and some regulations.
I spoke about it in couple threads here, there is a movie called "American drug war- last white hope". This is educational movie, there you can see how this drug war was created, who earns the most from drug wars.

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No definitrly not. It can stop temporarily but it will be back soon. Drug supplier is back up by big people, politicians, government must do something about it in order to eliminate drugs

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Quote from: DarkKnight68 on June 30, 2017, 07:48:08 AM

Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

The solution is: Researching drugs and stopping the spread of antiquated propaganda. The majority of recreational drugs are not just safe, but also have tremendous opportunity for medical applications.

MDMA and psychedelics have huge potential when it comes to healing depression, addiction, PTSD and other problems. And we have known this for decades. Nixon started the "war on drugs" for political and economical reasons. Banning them made sure that certain people had the chance of making a lot more money than they normally would and that's the only reason drugs are perceived as bad these days, even though they are not.

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A proper explanation about drug effect can be the solution but it won't be effective I think the best way is by strict law if strict law cant repressed this situation then violence is the last resort, a soft persuade usually is difficult to decrease the number of drug usage

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Sometimes extreme situations demand extreme measures but going beyond that there should also be some element of diplomacy and rigorous explanation of such campaign will go a long way in clearing the mind of people by those who wants to frustrate such effort which is what is being witnessed in the Philippines hopefully it will be sorted out in due time.

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Quote from: DarkKnight68 on June 30, 2017, 07:48:08 AM

Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

I don't think drugs issues in my country will have a solution. It's there for decades, even violence can't stop all the illegal drugs activities. The big time drug sindicates can still continue selling illegal drugs even behind bars.

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not only that, but to act decisively. if not act decisively, it will be many lives that disappeared the impact of drugs. for example, if dealing with action casually, it will worsen the image of the country's security as well as the image of the country's leadership. this is a life not to play main, in fact until now no one act decisively in combating drugs so it is very difficult to destroy

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Quote from: bcnaranjo on August 14, 2017, 07:56:57 AM

We did not live in a perfect world, criminals,addicts and other bad people are just around. Violence are here and there,if it takes a consented violence to capture those drug pushers,addicts and criminals,I think it is just the right thing to do now,anyway if we did nothing wrong then we have nothing to be afraid of.

I think all the problems that surrounded the world can resolve in a peaceful way. To achieve a drug free country we can use violence but it is against the law of human rights. If a person is using drugs, police can catch them and put them in a rehabilitation center so they will be cured. Having violence will not resolve the problems but it will only cause greater problems

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We did not live in a perfect world, criminals,addicts and other bad people are just around. Violence are here and there,if it takes a consented violence to capture those drug pushers,addicts and criminals,I think it is just the right thing to do now,anyway if we did nothing wrong then we have nothing to be afraid of.

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Quote from: DarkKnight68 on June 30, 2017, 07:48:08 AM

Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

You are oversimplifying, my friend.

Violence or rather monopoly on violence is what makes state a state. And in democracy - the people as sovereign of public affairs.

This is not about drugs. This is about imposing commonly accepted rules and order in society, that has been ran drug and robber barons running their private armies. This about the people fighting back feudalism.

You can do that perhaps by dialogue. In first world country with working law and order. But otherwise?

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Quote from: ZzV1Finn on July 05, 2017, 07:28:19 AM

I do not think that violence or assisting addicts in a rehabilitation center will help to eliminate this problem. Propaganda of drugs especially among celebrities will push new people to try this shit.

Maybe you are correct. If you did not experienced to live in a country were so much crime caused by drug addicts perhaps you would not mind and consider yourself on the side of the people who believe that everything can be changed. We are used up with the merciless killings and seems everyday by these drug dependents. They were nothing but a bunch of criminals who already lost their souls because of the killings they have made.

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I do not think that violence or assisting addicts in a rehabilitation center will help to eliminate this problem. Propaganda of drugs especially among celebrities will push new people to try this shit.

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One's thing for sure pretty words can't change the world alone. What do you expect in fighting criminals? Fighting them with words or some magic wand that will change them to a good person with just one swing of your wand. The answer is obvious whether you like it or not violence will always be apart in fighting criminality and the criminals that already lose their mentality because of this dangerous drugs. For many years the Philippines has been ruled by corrupted and idiot leaders and promise change to our country but look what happened more and more people keep suffering from poverty the streets weren't safe anymore even in day light because there to many bad people lurking. Now this things that's been being resolved and handle to restore the prosperity of this country. What else do you want?

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Quote from: matchi2011 on July 04, 2017, 04:04:20 PM

Quote from: DarkKnight68 on June 30, 2017, 07:48:08 AM

Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

Proper education i would assume. And start educating them while they're still young and informatig them of the effects it does to themselves, their families and the society in general. People should br fully aware of the consequences should they venture on drug addiction.

Awareness campaigns will have a huge effect on the levels of drug addiction. Especially in the third world countries such as India and the Philippines, where most of the addicts are uneducated and in their teens.

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Quote from: DarkKnight68 on June 30, 2017, 07:48:08 AM

Aside from resorting to violence, what are your suggestions or answers to solve and deal with drug addicts and users in your country?

Proper education i would assume. And start educating them while they're still young and informatig them of the effects it does to themselves, their families and the society in general. People should br fully aware of the consequences should they venture on drug addiction.

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This may be the way that some country leaders go ahead and try to fix this, though I don't think it's going to be something that's going to work all around the world when it comes to combating crime. As in some areas it is WAY more normalized for people to be addicted and use weed, and other drugs. It may work in the Phillipines, or it may be working. But here in the US there'd be a ton of killing, it's kind of normalized for people to be using drugs here, using weed is one of the things that people see as like drinking or smoking cigs these days.

Who knows, could work, could not.

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