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April 20, 2017, 10:54:52 PM
#70
i think a much better question would be "why would anyone want to play dice on Yobit"!
if you have ever played a dice game on any of the top sites like bitsler or crypto-games or even on one of the newer sites like YoloDice then you can see what i mean. yobit doesn't even have a half decent design, there is no auto bet, there is no changing of multiplier there are no hotkeys and there are alot of things missing.
so the question "why would anyone choose Yobit over other better places" and that goes for the exchange and trading part too!
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April 20, 2017, 10:45:41 PM
#69
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
They can show you about probably fair and can proof every bet you made are fair so why you worry. but im never trust dice site even they can show probably fair, only reason sometimes we can get 20 strike in a row is out of reasonable.

Your thinking is very accurate, even though they have proven their site to be fair, but they always have the tricks to alter its probability. Think about it, obviously they use percentage as a standard, but they do not use rolls from 0 to 100, whereas they use a larger scale, from 0 to 1000. Change, but in some ways it makes your odds of losing bigger, and when you make big rollovers, you lose more easily.

I wonder if you really know how provably fair works.  Coz, if you know how it works then you won't be doubting any dice sites that can show you the hash of the roll.  If they rigged it then it can be caught by simply checking the hash.  Though I do not have any idea if Dice in yobit is provably fair  since there is no indication if it is, probably not but I am not sure.  All I can see is their 2% house edge.  Quite high though.
you cant check the seed or hashes on each roll of playing dice in yobit which means chances of being riggid is really high since players cant see it then they end up lossing then they cant justify their rolls because its not possible to check it out and 2% houseedge wont be nothing if rolls arent provably fair at all.
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April 20, 2017, 09:19:13 PM
#68
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
They can show you about probably fair and can proof every bet you made are fair so why you worry. but im never trust dice site even they can show probably fair, only reason sometimes we can get 20 strike in a row is out of reasonable.

Your thinking is very accurate, even though they have proven their site to be fair, but they always have the tricks to alter its probability. Think about it, obviously they use percentage as a standard, but they do not use rolls from 0 to 100, whereas they use a larger scale, from 0 to 1000. Change, but in some ways it makes your odds of losing bigger, and when you make big rollovers, you lose more easily.

I wonder if you really know how provably fair works.  Coz, if you know how it works then you won't be doubting any dice sites that can show you the hash of the roll.  If they rigged it then it can be caught by simply checking the hash.  Though I do not have any idea if Dice in yobit is provably fair  since there is no indication if it is, probably not but I am not sure.  All I can see is their 2% house edge.  Quite high though.
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April 20, 2017, 08:16:34 PM
#67
They have their gambling dice set to 0.01 so if you accidentally play you lose more it was at 0.001 and they do thst for that very reason. They make the buttons nice and big by the trollbox too. Also it's snowing exchange so you can gamble and currency and I guess people get greedy and also tempted. It's not probably fair the house edge is probably high like 4% yet people still play. I don't understand it.

Yeah, that's what every single site does. Suck you in.

And then once you're sucked in, they want you to play more and more, and make sure that you don't ever stop.

Yobit likely doesn't have a provably fair system because they aren't fair.

Personally, I always lose when I do a bet over 0.01 BTC. Unlike the provably fair dice sites, I can accuse them of being rigged because they don't have anything to verify with that proves the rolls are not rigged.
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April 20, 2017, 07:48:25 PM
#66
They have their gambling dice set to 0.01 so if you accidentally play you lose more it was at 0.001 and they do thst for that very reason. They make the buttons nice and big by the trollbox too. Also it's snowing exchange so you can gamble and currency and I guess people get greedy and also tempted. It's not probably fair the house edge is probably high like 4% yet people still play. I don't understand it.
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April 20, 2017, 06:19:31 PM
#65
They can show you about probably fair and can proof every bet you made are fair so why you worry.
If they can show every bet you have made are fair and you are also can check it by yourself or by other verifier (dicesite) you don't hvave to worry anything, but the problem is some user who don't know how to check if that site has used provably fair or not.

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but im never trust dice site even they can show probably fair, only reason sometimes we can get 20 strike in a row is out of reasonable.
Yes, don't trust Fortunejack too then, but why would you promote them even though you have said you never trust dice site?
Get 20 reds straight isn't impossible, try to learn how probability works first in gambling.

What you say is true. Most people always look for "provably fair" type of gambling sites but 99% of them don't actual know how to verify the bets or don't actually get their bets verified. All that they do is change the client seed themselves and assume, its fair that way.

Which is true, changing the client seed will randomize the output but if its not checked manually then what's the point.
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April 20, 2017, 11:41:46 AM
#64
I really wouldn't use Yobit as a dice site, there are much better fair and trusted sites for that.  They probably get a lot of users using their faucets to get free dead coins and then gambling on the dice game.
Yes, of course, I also will not play dice on yobit.net. The focus of yobit.net is the trading platform, where people trade and trade electronic currencies, I think the dice game is just small integral part of the site. If you want to gamble, we can find other sites that are of much quality and better. I also doubt the fairness of the dice game in yobit.net because many people have said that they lose a lot of money because of it.
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April 20, 2017, 08:28:39 AM
#63
They can show you about probably fair and can proof every bet you made are fair so why you worry.
If they can show every bet you have made are fair and you are also can check it by yourself or by other verifier (dicesite) you don't hvave to worry anything, but the problem is some user who don't know how to check if that site has used provably fair or not.

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but im never trust dice site even they can show probably fair, only reason sometimes we can get 20 strike in a row is out of reasonable.
Yes, don't trust Fortunejack too then, but why would you promote them even though you have said you never trust dice site?
Get 20 reds straight isn't impossible, try to learn how probability works first in gambling.
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April 20, 2017, 07:48:02 AM
#62
What is the house edge of YoBit.net games?
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April 20, 2017, 07:41:34 AM
#61
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
They can show you about probably fair and can proof every bet you made are fair so why you worry. but im never trust dice site even they can show probably fair, only reason sometimes we can get 20 strike in a row is out of reasonable.

Your thinking is very accurate, even though they have proven their site to be fair, but they always have the tricks to alter its probability. Think about it, obviously they use percentage as a standard, but they do not use rolls from 0 to 100, whereas they use a larger scale, from 0 to 1000. Change, but in some ways it makes your odds of losing bigger, and when you make big rollovers, you lose more easily.
legendary
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April 20, 2017, 06:46:09 AM
#60
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
Maybe some go there to trade not to gamble or play for past time. In yobit have many free coins to claim so they can play all they can using the free coins and i tried played also there using free coins its fun.
The free coin is not exactly the reason why people use it. Yobit is known as one of the largest trading floor in the world, it is used by prestige and stability. Instead of using new modern trading platforms but not stable system, people choose the security and stability. That is why yobit is used by many people even though it is old.
Yobit does still operates and been here for longer periods as of now and you are right its being still used by some users but not to be compared on polo and bittrex i suppose and This exchange does have really many issues and you can eventually read it on their thread or any on this forum.They are known bad on their support which most users do really complain about this thing.
Yeah i know yobit is the one known that you can trade altcoins i trade how many times there. And you are right many issues especially to support i lose some of my coins there without knowing what happen i submitted my complain but no one answer me.
Not only but i did tried out to make trading on that site and you are not the only one whose experiencing this thing but there are lots of users do really complain regarding on this matter which they didnt even know what happen to their coins and contacting their support is the most hassle part on engaging to the site because it would really take years for them to answer you related to your problem which i can say the baddest support ever on an exchange site.
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April 20, 2017, 06:02:14 AM
#59
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
I think yobit is not have any probably fair like thing , it is because I'd you will try to see in the yobit site  , then you will not find any word that says that probably fair is attached in the yobit system .
Well here a big thing that I would like to tell you that you can't make any Profit with yobit , it is because  the system of yobit will always result into loss of your bet with big bet , about one weeks ago I made three bet continuously with 0.003 bet but didn't get won Sad that is what , but when I made bet with 0.0003 then I won 2 our three bets . I will suggest not to make Gambling at yobit in high-low bet game .
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April 20, 2017, 05:15:32 AM
#58
I heard that Yobit is not provably fair because their odds is high than 1% and i already experience of many loses in their site  same as you gamble with altcoin. never had any profit you can be stay long but your your profit will never be reach base in my experience..
But i heard someone before that they are gamble with altcoin and lucky they made huge profit with dogecoin before.. Ill also tried that altcoin but badluck i can't even make above the capital..
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April 20, 2017, 05:08:28 AM
#57
I don't have an idea if they are provably fair and I haven't seen a banner or any quoted words on their site with such "provably fair". It's just another feature for being an exchange website and the fact that most of us are just going to there to dice our alt coins or just claiming free alt coins and just dicing it for having fun.
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April 20, 2017, 04:59:22 AM
#56
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
They can show you about probably fair and can proof every bet you made are fair so why you worry. but im never trust dice site even they can show probably fair, only reason sometimes we can get 20 strike in a row is out of reasonable.
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April 20, 2017, 04:37:02 AM
#55
Yes there is tons of confusion in this thread. The title should of been different like "Is YoBit Dice provably" fair because everybody is confused with the exchange site. Even though I heard of some scams on the exchange the main culprit is the Yobit Dice which I have yet to find someone who actually won anything.

I never really gamble on there but someone here should just tell them that we are concerned and to make the dice provably fair to stop the scam accusations against them. If they have nothing to hide then they should do it.

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April 20, 2017, 03:55:42 AM
#54
Yes i think yobit is provably fair because many are play there they always go back to play and many people are playing there so this site are good. And also we can trade altcoins there many choices to be trade.

It is not.

They are just like regular aonline casinos, you have no idea how they operate. They may bait you with a few wins at the start but then once you start gambling legit, they take out the wins and replace them with losses.

Don't play on their site.
Agree with you mate that yobit is not really fair, at first playing on their dice i always that is why i will gives lot of time to play on but later on i play regularly and i realized that some of my altcoin would start loosing. they will do 1 : 3 favor of lose.
Now i decided to withdraw my total bitcoin on that site.
Okay if do mistake sorry because i dont gamble there i only trade bitcoin/altcoins so if yobit is not really fair okay thank for the info so that i can not try to gamble in that site.
Yes thats might be good for you to just trade altcoins their because we both not lucky on their gambling game, I didnt even win a single time on playing in their gambling game because I see it not probably fair. Its just good to avoid it
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April 20, 2017, 03:14:00 AM
#53
Yes i think yobit is provably fair because many are play there they always go back to play and many people are playing there so this site are good. And also we can trade altcoins there many choices to be trade.

It is not.

They are just like regular aonline casinos, you have no idea how they operate. They may bait you with a few wins at the start but then once you start gambling legit, they take out the wins and replace them with losses.

Don't play on their site.
Agree with you mate that yobit is not really fair, at first playing on their dice i always that is why i will gives lot of time to play on but later on i play regularly and i realized that some of my altcoin would start loosing. they will do 1 : 3 favor of lose.
Now i decided to withdraw my total bitcoin on that site.
Okay if do mistake sorry because i dont gamble there i only trade bitcoin/altcoins so if yobit is not really fair okay thank for the info so that i can not try to gamble in that site.
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April 20, 2017, 02:55:18 AM
#52
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
yobit is not gambling site , this is exchange trading..

it is not even an exchange service!
Yobit is a place made to make money for the owners. they do all kinds of shady behavior to make more money. a non provably fair dice game is only the smallest part of it all.
checking the trading part you can see how many fake pumps they do which you can not even join in. the deposits of that particular coin they are pumping will be disabled first a couple of days before and then during the pump you can easily see orders being filled which are below your order and history reports of fake orders that aren't even doable according to their minimum volume rule!
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April 19, 2017, 10:08:00 PM
#51
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?

yobit is not gambling site , this is exchange trading..
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