ISIS executes 1,500 Iraqi POWs - page 3.

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Quote from: shawshankinmate37927 on August 06, 2014, 11:47:11 AM

Why do you categorize these murderers with the label "Sunnis"? Do you think all Sunnis approve of or are responsible for these crimes?

I sympathize with your comment 100%. One will never find a category of human behavior for which "all" approve, will you? However, since this is a self proclaimed Caliphate, isn't it odd that no FATWAs exist to kill these murderers and blasphemers, that do such things in the name of Allah?

Now show me some news reporting, does not matter what the language is, where Muslims are outraged or even reporting this event.

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Shit, really disturbing. They forget how to be human.

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Quote from: Hawker on August 06, 2014, 10:32:41 AM

Why do people on this forum care about ISIS and want the US to get involved with drones or whatever? Iraq is a very violent place. The Sunnis have been slaughtering everyone else there for a long long time. Just because its being recorded on cellphones now doesn't mean its new or worse - Saddam Hussein had several years in which over 100,000 prisoners were killed.

Why do you categorize these murderers with the label "Sunnis"? Do you think all Sunnis approve of or are responsible for these crimes?

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Why do people on this forum care about ISIS and want the US to get involved with drones or whatever? Iraq is a very violent place. The Sunnis have been slaughtering everyone else there for a long long time. Just because its being recorded on cellphones now doesn't mean its new or worse - Saddam Hussein had several years in which over 100,000 prisoners were killed.

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Quote from: TrailingComet on August 05, 2014, 01:22:01 AM

What a bunch of pricks...
With all the world's attention on Gaza, the human rights situation worsening in ISIS held areas is escaping attention

Perhaps the Iraqi lives are not worth as much as the lives of Gazans.

Had someone at least supplied a proper delivery of arms and ammunition to the Peshmerga, ISIS would have been history by now.

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Quote from: cryptasm on August 06, 2014, 04:50:32 AM

Well we can thank Bush and Blair for this nightmare in Iraq, the only liberation that happened was Western liberation of Iraq's oil supplies.....

ISIS executes 1500 POWs!

Blame Bush!

Yeah, sure, buddy. Sure. Blame it on Bush.

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Quote from: TaunSew on August 06, 2014, 05:00:47 AM

Quote from: cryptasm on August 06, 2014, 04:50:32 AM

Well we can thank Bush and Blair for this nightmare in Iraq, the only liberation that happened was Western liberation of Iraq's oil supplies.

Still waiting for them to find Saddam's elusive WMD's.....

Too bad there was no liberation of the oil. Western oil companies are taxed more in Iraq than they are in the oil producing regions in the United States and Canada. Iraqis are also exporting oil to China and even to countries hostile to America.

How Iraqi money comes to the west is the US government makes them to overpay for obsolete military hardware or monkey model Abrams (and the juicy maintenance contracts). Iraqi government also has to employ a lot of foreign firms for engineering and civil projects (which to be fair they can't really do themselves. That's like the pipeline project in Libya, Gaddafi didn't do that it was technically German-Italian firms. Much like Dubai says they want to send a man to Mars but it'll probably be American space companies doing the literal work).

Yeah nowadays I think China is the biggest customer, they're buying up about half the oil Iraq produces. That wasn't the case immediately after the invasion.

The 'reconstruction' of Iraq is another $billion scam for the corps, overcharging the Iraq government for non-existent civilian projects.

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Quote from: cryptasm on August 06, 2014, 04:50:32 AM

Well we can thank Bush and Blair for this nightmare in Iraq, the only liberation that happened was Western liberation of Iraq's oil supplies.

Still waiting for them to find Saddam's elusive WMD's.....

Too bad there was no liberation of the oil. Western oil companies are taxed more in Iraq than they are in the oil producing regions in the United States and Canada. Iraqis are also exporting oil to China and even to countries hostile to America.

How Iraqi money comes to the west is the US government makes them to overpay for obsolete military hardware or monkey model Abrams (and the juicy maintenance contracts). Iraqi government also has to employ a lot of foreign firms for engineering and civil projects (which to be fair they can't really do themselves. That's like the pipeline project in Libya, Gaddafi didn't do that it was technically German-Italian firms. Much like Dubai says they want to send a man to Mars but it'll probably be American space companies doing the literal work).

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Well we can thank Bush and Blair for this nightmare in Iraq, the only liberation that happened was Western liberation of Iraq's oil supplies.

Still waiting for them to find Saddam's elusive WMD's.....

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Some 200,000 refugees are currently stranded in the Jabal Sinjar mountains, without any food or water. Most of them are religious minorities, such as Yazidis and Assyrians. Tens of thousands of children are among the refugees. If urgent aid is not delivered, a large part of them will perish.

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Quote from: MichaelBliss on August 04, 2014, 04:49:47 PM

No, America manufactures it's own enemies in order to make big business fighting them. (It's half the U.S. economy). Not to mention the being in bed with Israel thing.

Given the choice between being in bed with Israel thing and being in with the creatures shown in the ISIS video, I know where I'm headed.

Although this video is totally disgusting, I am glad that it was released and made available. It shows reality, something has got to be understood. The plain truth is what combats propaganda most effectively.

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Bloody murderers , this psychopaths need to be punished ! how can these mass murderers still running wild....I know that the Iraqi government still being getting armed and doesn't have necessary tools to fight back especially in such disputed Area (which is why ISIS are kinda of doing what they want) but things needs to be done asap or they'll just killing more people included a lot of innocent civilians

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 05, 2014, 12:29:15 AM

This is exactly why I think replacing Saddam Hussain with Al Maliki was a wrong idea. At least Saddam was able to keep the country united (with the exception of the far north).

Now the only choice left, IMO is to divide the country in to three separate republics / dictatorships.

The Kurds are an Iranic people and they were conspiring with Iran. Kurds are to Iranians as are Bavarians to Germans. The Kurdish independence thing is almost a joke as that country would be either join Iran or become its' puppet state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Karim_Qassim

Heck the founding father of Iraq (aka the guy who booted out the foreign Hashemite Bedouin monarchs who were installed by the British) was like 75% Kurdish and he had problems with the Kurds back then trying to break up Iraq to join Iran.

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ISIS are one of those groups of pure evil like Boko Haram that simply needed to be exterminated.

Most of those executed are barely young adults/teenagers.

I really hope the Kurds are able to kill every single one.

Hopefully this news of American air support is true:

http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/040820146

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What a bunch of pricks...
With all the world's attention on Gaza, the human rights situation worsening in ISIS held areas is escaping attention

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Don't be surprised that those about to be executed don't fight back even with them outnumbering their captors.

They probably went through the most horrifying mental torture that you could imagine.
In cases like these the POWs are sometimes divided into groups and forced to watch false executions of other groups. Executioners prepare the POWs as if they are going to be executed and then shoot next to them, have a good laugh and load them back into trucks. Several 'treatments' make POWs become very docile because they are first shocked, then terrified beyond belief, and finally relieved and reassured that they may live if they bow down. Instant Stockholm syndrome combined with indifference.
When the time for the actual execution comes, they don't even know what's real anymore and they don't care.

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This is exactly why I think replacing Saddam Hussain with Al Maliki was a wrong idea. At least Saddam was able to keep the country united (with the exception of the far north).

Now the only choice left, IMO is to divide the country in to three separate republics / dictatorships.

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ISIS are a bunch of murderous scumbags, that much is self-evident
What's worrying is the complete absence of ideas on how to substantively deal with them in a sustainable way
The lack of western credibility in that part of the world compounds an already bad situation

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We live in coarser, more violent times overall period
Just because it is less visibly in your face in the West doesn't mean it's not there
ISIS is the consequence of many years of US foreign policy mismanagement in MENA

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Quote from: kokojie on August 04, 2014, 09:21:43 PM

Quote from: TaunSew on August 04, 2014, 04:22:21 PM

How's this any different then what the Austrians did in Serbia a hundred years ago, where they killed 57% of the male population?

Seeing as how the whole Ukraine thing is being tolerated in Europe right now it goes to show that we haven't changed in mindset from earlier times. If ISIS was doing this in Britain no one would care, not even the Scottish or Welsh ("as long as they don't come here").

You answered your own question, the difference is "a hundred years ago"

You're making an assumption that cannot happen again when it in fact did (several times). Brutality of WW1 was followed by WW2. Brutality of WW2 was followed by Americans in Korea and Vietnam, who carpet bombed many civilians to death and then there were mass rapes and massacres. Even a million Iraqis were said to have died as a result of the American invasion of Iraq. If you look around enough for video clips you can see American soldiers murdering and raping civilians.

This sort of brutality will make appearances in Europe again, it's just a matter of time. Whatever veneer of civility you think there is just a veneer.

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