Topic: ISIS initially was supported by the west, to... (Read 4511 times)
there is some sort of conspiracy made by US, to create an organization called ISIS that is aimed at pitting Muslims in the middle east. US can make the opinion that Muslims are terrorists that are killing not only non-Muslims but also Muslims, so that the muslims movement can be controlled and can not evolve ... hopefully all movement of Muslims to be aware of the dangers of this conspiracy, so that they can unite to fight this conspiracy
The US didn't invent 1,000 years of Sunni/Shia hatred.
Personally I think the conspiracy theories about the US creating ISIS is just mainstream Muslims embarrassed to admit they have a problem with their jobless and goal-less youth being indoctrinated and radicalized by fundamental clerics who can offer them something better than hanging out on the street corner all day.
Think about it, if you are a 20 year-old Arab kid whose been raised your whole life to believe the "Zionist entity" and the "Great Satan" is responsible for why you don't have a job or an education, what else is there to do but pick up an AK-47 and go join a Jihad adventure?
And in a society where women are secluded or covered, for a young male there is some mighty sexual frustration built up and being given free reign to rape and loot is a psychological release from daily repression.
Much true.Personally I think the conspiracy theories about the US creating ISIS is just mainstream Muslims embarrassed to admit they have a problem with their jobless and goal-less youth being indoctrinated and radicalized by fundamental clerics who can offer them something better than hanging out on the street corner all day.
Think about it, if you are a 20 year-old Arab kid whose been raised your whole life to believe the "Zionist entity" and the "Great Satan" is responsible for why you don't have a job or an education, what else is there to do but pick up an AK-47 and go join a Jihad adventure?
And in a society where women are secluded or covered, for a young male there is some mighty sexual frustration built up and being given free reign to rape and loot is a psychological release from daily repression.
If you want to solve a problem you have to fix its root, it's almost pointless to hit the symptoms.
You're going too far saying ISIS was supported by the West. Only a very limited group of people in the West have shown a little support in the early days of that movement. There are also some young unskilled and unemployed muslims who support ISIS all over Europe, but those people don't belong much to the West, despite they're living there.
I don't know much about how ISIS is funded, but I'm sure most of the money comes from the Persian Gulf.
they had official government support when they were fighting assad.I don't know much about how ISIS is funded, but I'm sure most of the money comes from the Persian Gulf.
Mc Cain chillin with al Baghdadi.
You're going too far saying ISIS was supported by the West. Only a very limited group of people in the West have shown a little support in the early days of that movement. There are also some young unskilled and unemployed muslims who support ISIS all over Europe, but those people don't belong much to the West, despite they're living there.
I don't know much about how ISIS is funded, but I'm sure most of the money comes from the Persian Gulf.
they had official government support when they were fighting assad. I don't know much about how ISIS is funded, but I'm sure most of the money comes from the Persian Gulf.
The US didn't invent 1,000 years of Sunni/Shia hatred.
Personally I think the conspiracy theories about the US creating ISIS is just mainstream Muslims embarrassed to admit they have a problem with their jobless and goal-less youth being indoctrinated and radicalized by fundamental clerics who can offer them something better than hanging out on the street corner all day.
Think about it, if you are a 20 year-old Arab kid whose been raised your whole life to believe the "Zionist entity" and the "Great Satan" is responsible for why you don't have a job or an education, what else is there to do but pick up an AK-47 and go join a Jihad adventure?
And in a society where women are secluded or covered, for a young male there is some mighty sexual frustration built up and being given free reign to rape and loot is a psychological release from daily repression.
Personally I think the conspiracy theories about the US creating ISIS is just mainstream Muslims embarrassed to admit they have a problem with their jobless and goal-less youth being indoctrinated and radicalized by fundamental clerics who can offer them something better than hanging out on the street corner all day.
Think about it, if you are a 20 year-old Arab kid whose been raised your whole life to believe the "Zionist entity" and the "Great Satan" is responsible for why you don't have a job or an education, what else is there to do but pick up an AK-47 and go join a Jihad adventure?
And in a society where women are secluded or covered, for a young male there is some mighty sexual frustration built up and being given free reign to rape and loot is a psychological release from daily repression.
Makes sense. ISIS is supported by Saudi Arabia to destabilize its Shia enemies.
cuz of obama
Actually, yes. He has taken numerous actions that increased the strength of Muslim insurgency groups at the expense of democratic or secular governments.
More like waswas
Yeah it's not just your view, it's the truth plain as day. We invent our own enemies so we can keep fighting endless war. Checkout BBC's "The Power of Nightmares" if you already haven't. ISIS is another rehash of the same old tactic.
http://vimeo.com/84414208
Then every murderer is the fault of the police departments. http://vimeo.com/84414208
No, that doesn't follow what I said at all. Check out the film I linked, it's quite good.
If there were not murderers, we wouldn't need police departments, so to expand the bureaucracy of police departments, some number of bad guys are needed, and need to be glamorized.
Unfortunately, only low IQ people fall for this logic. Reality is that there really are really bad guys. Maybe they shouldn't be given media time, and maybe they shouldn't be used as justification for government agencies, sure.
History is interesting if you don't fall for the latest conspiracy theory.
Yes there are always going to be bad individuals, however they are few and relatively far between and thus do not pose a treat to society as a whole. The real threat the world faces are the psychopathic politicians who use fearmongering to suppress our ability to reach out to one another and transcend this spiralling lunacy of hatred we see in the world. This is all a product institutional failure that has escalated into the vortex of irrational judgement by those in authority. So ironical far from protecting society they themselves have become its greatest threat.
It's important not to carry it too far, though, and suggest that threats are made up. Some are, some are not.
In the USA, in 2009 and 2010, the Tea Party was widely propagandized as as being a threat. Those were lies.
Yeah it's not just your view, it's the truth plain as day. We invent our own enemies so we can keep fighting endless war. Checkout BBC's "The Power of Nightmares" if you already haven't. ISIS is another rehash of the same old tactic.
http://vimeo.com/84414208
Then every murderer is the fault of the police departments. http://vimeo.com/84414208
No, that doesn't follow what I said at all. Check out the film I linked, it's quite good.
If there were not murderers, we wouldn't need police departments, so to expand the bureaucracy of police departments, some number of bad guys are needed, and need to be glamorized.
Unfortunately, only low IQ people fall for this logic. Reality is that there really are really bad guys. Maybe they shouldn't be given media time, and maybe they shouldn't be used as justification for government agencies, sure.
History is interesting if you don't fall for the latest conspiracy theory.
Yes there are always going to be bad individuals, however they are few and relatively far between and thus do not pose a treat to society as a whole. The real threat the world faces are the psychopathic politicians who use fearmongering to suppress our ability to reach out to one another and transcend this spiralling lunacy of hatred we see in the world. This is all a product institutional failure that has escalated into the vortex of irrational judgement by those in authority. So ironical far from protecting society they themselves have become its greatest threat.
I had posted about ISIS before.
What happened in Afghanistan is repeating itself in Syria-Iraq. In Afghanistan, the Americans gave Stinger missiles and other advanced weaponry to the Taliban rebels, along with shiploads of money. When the Taliban finished their fight with the Russians, they turned back on their original sponsors.
The only difference here is that the Americans never directly supported the ISIS. The support was delivered through their allies (Saudis, Qataris.etc).
What happened in Afghanistan is repeating itself in Syria-Iraq. In Afghanistan, the Americans gave Stinger missiles and other advanced weaponry to the Taliban rebels, along with shiploads of money. When the Taliban finished their fight with the Russians, they turned back on their original sponsors.
The only difference here is that the Americans never directly supported the ISIS. The support was delivered through their allies (Saudis, Qataris.etc).
Yeah it's not just your view, it's the truth plain as day. We invent our own enemies so we can keep fighting endless war. Checkout BBC's "The Power of Nightmares" if you already haven't. ISIS is another rehash of the same old tactic.
http://vimeo.com/84414208
Then every murderer is the fault of the police departments. http://vimeo.com/84414208
No, that doesn't follow what I said at all. Check out the film I linked, it's quite good.
If there were not murderers, we wouldn't need police departments, so to expand the bureaucracy of police departments, some number of bad guys are needed, and need to be glamorized.
Unfortunately, only low IQ people fall for this logic. Reality is that there really are really bad guys. Maybe they shouldn't be given media time, and maybe they shouldn't be used as justification for government agencies, sure.
History is interesting if you don't fall for the latest conspiracy theory.
Rome started to debase their coins with shit metals...
Merica is currently playing the same game... When you can no longer fund your army with an infinite amount of money people you killed and tortured see an opening.. May the gods have mercy on us.
Merica is currently playing the same game... When you can no longer fund your army with an infinite amount of money people you killed and tortured see an opening.. May the gods have mercy on us.
Yeah it's not just your view, it's the truth plain as day. We invent our own enemies so we can keep fighting endless war. Checkout BBC's "The Power of Nightmares" if you already haven't. ISIS is another rehash of the same old tactic.
http://vimeo.com/84414208
http://vimeo.com/84414208
Great video Michael, the lunatics have taken over the asylum, and are drinking their own excrement!
Yeah it's not just your view, it's the truth plain as day. We invent our own enemies so we can keep fighting endless war. Checkout BBC's "The Power of Nightmares" if you already haven't. ISIS is another rehash of the same old tactic.
http://vimeo.com/84414208
Then every murderer is the fault of the police departments. http://vimeo.com/84414208
No, that doesn't follow what I said at all. Check out the film I linked, it's quite good.
Yeah it's not just your view, it's the truth plain as day. We invent our own enemies so we can keep fighting endless war. Checkout BBC's "The Power of Nightmares" if you already haven't. ISIS is another rehash of the same old tactic.
http://vimeo.com/84414208
Then every murderer is the fault of the police departments. http://vimeo.com/84414208
snowden latest scoop: ISIS supreme khalif al bagdadhi enrolled by CIA and trained by mossad... 
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/24/376378/baghdadi-mossadtrained-saudifunded/
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08/24/376378/baghdadi-mossadtrained-saudifunded/
Yes, the western government was supporting ISIS - until Russian media reports came out of 'ISIS man killing and eating Syrian heart organs' (including videos).
Russia and China didn't want an invasion to get of Assad - they preferred Assad over ISIS.
Russia and China didn't want an invasion to get of Assad - they preferred Assad over ISIS.
Yeah it's not just your view, it's the truth plain as day. We invent our own enemies so we can keep fighting endless war. Checkout BBC's "The Power of Nightmares" if you already haven't. ISIS is another rehash of the same old tactic.
http://vimeo.com/84414208
http://vimeo.com/84414208
You're going too far saying ISIS was supported by the West. ...
That's a bit like saying every serial killer was once supported by his mother....
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