ISIS leader, Baghdadi, says "Islam was never a religion of peace. - page 2.

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Quote from: Hamuki on May 18, 2015, 05:51:32 AM

He might be one of them.
Thats the thing..

They dont wear a uniform.
They walk around like civs and then when accual civilians are hit by bombs and artillery then they cry about the west being the bad guy.

If you are still in ISIS territory then you are a friend of ISIS unless you are unable to flee.
So live with them, die with them.

I dint mean to accuse him of anything but his statement "Laugh because you're still alive" is suspicious. This indirectly means that I may be a next target of ISIS? Why does he want me to be a target? Just because I don't agree with him? *Sick*

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Quote from: dsyahputera on May 18, 2015, 03:27:18 AM

Did you mean shiite? Shiite is not Islam, you must know that. ISIS do not kill Muslim, but shiite do.

So you think that they don't do it intentionally? LOL!

They send terrorists to other countries and tell them to kill all the people who are walking on the road, travelling in trains. Dn't they think that even Muslims might be travelling in the trains? That's not intentional?

I don't think so, in fact ISIS don't kill Muslims, news made that state.

P.S: Laugh as loud as you still live in this world.

An eye opener:

The group’s killing of Westerners gets attention. But ISIS has killed far more Muslims, and publicizing that fact would harm it more.
Last Thursday, the United Nations released a report that could provide us with one of the keys to defeating ISIS. Unfortunately, it received almost zero media attention.

What makes this 26-page report (PDF) so powerful is that it describes to us the gruesome circumstances in which ISIS has killed fellow Muslims. We are talking beheadings, killing of women for objecting to ISIS’ policies, and executing Sunni Muslim clerics for refusing to swear allegiance to ISIS.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/07/isis-s-gruesome-muslim-death-toll.html

@bold: Why do you sound like one of the ISIS members? Why should I be happy or sad about my life. Aren't you alive too?

No, no, I'm not an ISIS members, do not think of me like that, I don't have any arms Wink

By the way, there is no ISIS anymore.

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Quote from: erikalui on May 18, 2015, 05:30:00 AM

Quote from: dsyahputera on May 18, 2015, 05:24:36 AM

Quote from: erikalui on May 18, 2015, 05:00:55 AM

Quote from: dsyahputera on May 18, 2015, 03:27:18 AM

Did you mean shiite? Shiite is not Islam, you must know that. ISIS do not kill Muslim, but shiite do.

So you think that they don't do it intentionally? LOL!

They send terrorists to other countries and tell them to kill all the people who are walking on the road, travelling in trains. Dn't they think that even Muslims might be travelling in the trains? That's not intentional?

I don't think so, in fact ISIS don't kill Muslims, news made that state.

P.S: Laugh as loud as you still live in this world.

An eye opener:

The group’s killing of Westerners gets attention. But ISIS has killed far more Muslims, and publicizing that fact would harm it more.
Last Thursday, the United Nations released a report that could provide us with one of the keys to defeating ISIS. Unfortunately, it received almost zero media attention.

What makes this 26-page report (PDF) so powerful is that it describes to us the gruesome circumstances in which ISIS has killed fellow Muslims. We are talking beheadings, killing of women for objecting to ISIS’ policies, and executing Sunni Muslim clerics for refusing to swear allegiance to ISIS.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/07/isis-s-gruesome-muslim-death-toll.html

@bold: Why do you sound like one of the ISIS members? Why should I be happy or sad about my life. Aren't you alive too?

He might be one of them.
Thats the thing..

They dont wear a uniform.
They walk around like civs and then when accual civilians are hit by bombs and artillery then they cry about the west being the bad guy.

If you are still in ISIS territory then you are a friend of ISIS unless you are unable to flee.
So live with them, die with them.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 18, 2015, 05:29:28 AM

Quote from: Hamuki on May 18, 2015, 04:33:26 AM

Quote from: thebigtalk on May 18, 2015, 04:28:20 AM

He's using big words right there. Not every muslim wants war so a call to arms wont be that easy.

The majority of Muslims are peaceful.. Because they live in civilized countries.

But.. atleast 10% of all muslims are radical and extremists..

1.5 billion muslims.. 10% = 150 million people who wants to kill the rest of the world.

That figure seems to be more or less accurate. The percentage might be higher in countries such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, and it might be lower in nations such as Indonesia and Albania. Out of this 150 million, I believe that less than 5% (7.5 million) might actually want to fight. The remaining 95% are mere sympathizers, who are not interested in losing their lives for Jihad.

I just need to be sure.. 1.500.000.000/ 100 * 10% or 5% = either 150m 10% or 75m 5%.
Or am I wrong?

Even if its 75 million or just 7.5 million its still so such a large amount that they could do insane amounts of damage..
We know that they use refuges as their secret weapon.
To put more pressure on EU but also smuggel terrorists with the refuges.

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Quote from: dsyahputera on May 18, 2015, 05:24:36 AM

Quote from: erikalui on May 18, 2015, 05:00:55 AM

Quote from: dsyahputera on May 18, 2015, 03:27:18 AM

Did you mean shiite? Shiite is not Islam, you must know that. ISIS do not kill Muslim, but shiite do.

So you think that they don't do it intentionally? LOL!

They send terrorists to other countries and tell them to kill all the people who are walking on the road, travelling in trains. Dn't they think that even Muslims might be travelling in the trains? That's not intentional?

I don't think so, in fact ISIS don't kill Muslims, news made that state.

P.S: Laugh as loud as you still live in this world.

An eye opener:

The group’s killing of Westerners gets attention. But ISIS has killed far more Muslims, and publicizing that fact would harm it more.
Last Thursday, the United Nations released a report that could provide us with one of the keys to defeating ISIS. Unfortunately, it received almost zero media attention.

What makes this 26-page report (PDF) so powerful is that it describes to us the gruesome circumstances in which ISIS has killed fellow Muslims. We are talking beheadings, killing of women for objecting to ISIS’ policies, and executing Sunni Muslim clerics for refusing to swear allegiance to ISIS.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/07/isis-s-gruesome-muslim-death-toll.html

@bold: Why do you sound like one of the ISIS members? Why should I be happy or sad about my life. Aren't you alive too?

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Quote from: Hamuki on May 18, 2015, 04:33:26 AM

Quote from: thebigtalk on May 18, 2015, 04:28:20 AM

He's using big words right there. Not every muslim wants war so a call to arms wont be that easy.

The majority of Muslims are peaceful.. Because they live in civilized countries.

But.. atleast 10% of all muslims are radical and extremists..

1.5 billion muslims.. 10% = 150 million people who wants to kill the rest of the world.

That figure seems to be more or less accurate. The percentage might be higher in countries such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, and it might be lower in nations such as Indonesia and Albania. Out of this 150 million, I believe that less than 5% (7.5 million) might actually want to fight. The remaining 95% are mere sympathizers, who are not interested in losing their lives for Jihad.

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Quote from: erikalui on May 18, 2015, 05:00:55 AM

Quote from: dsyahputera on May 18, 2015, 03:27:18 AM

Did you mean shiite? Shiite is not Islam, you must know that. ISIS do not kill Muslim, but shiite do.

So you think that they don't do it intentionally? LOL!

They send terrorists to other countries and tell them to kill all the people who are walking on the road, travelling in trains. Dn't they think that even Muslims might be travelling in the trains? That's not intentional?

I don't think so, in fact ISIS don't kill Muslims, news made that state.

P.S: Laugh as loud as you still live in this world.

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Quote from: dsyahputera on May 18, 2015, 03:27:18 AM

Did you mean shiite? Shiite is not Islam, you must know that. ISIS do not kill Muslim, but shiite do.

So you think that they don't do it intentionally? LOL!

They send terrorists to other countries and tell them to kill all the people who are walking on the road, travelling in trains. Dn't they think that even Muslims might be travelling in the trains? That's not intentional?

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 18, 2015, 04:39:24 AM

Quote from: dsyahputera on May 18, 2015, 04:33:32 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 18, 2015, 04:14:10 AM

Quote from: dsyahputera on May 18, 2015, 04:06:13 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 18, 2015, 04:01:27 AM

Quote from: dsyahputera on May 18, 2015, 03:54:26 AM

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ISIS do not kill Muslims. You all have been deceived by the media. Shiite commit violence to Muslims, but media reports that is violence of ISIS.

You think only non-Muslims are affected by the blasts, slaughters etc... done by ISIS? Undecided

Because you said "ISIS *do* kill Muslim", I consider it as intent. They will not intentionally kill Muslims.

EDIT: Do you think only ISIS that doing blasts, slaughters, etc. ? Undecided

Of course, it's killing.

Kill = Cause the death of (a person, animal, or other living thing).

Nope. Many do things like that, not just ISIS.

In fact, if shiite killing Muslims, the media reported that ISIS is doing it, make you believe that ISIS is doing it. News deceive you from the beginning. In fact, ISIS wants to enforce sharia in this world. In fact, kaffirun hate the if the sharia dominate in this world. Then they did all their guile, through the media they lied to the whole human being, including to Muslims, lied that ISIS kill Muslims, lied that ISIS want to destroy ka'bah, lied that the leader of ISIS was died, lied that this everything done by ISIS because political gains, and many more. And the worst thing is, Muslims believe it. That's why I asked you about "have you check that news?" yesterday Sad

So you are essentially concluding ISIS is innocent? ISIS didn't kill Muslims, they ain't cruels etc...?

P.S. Are you telling what media tell about senior ISIS leader is a lie?

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Instead of innocent, they never kill Muslims without reason (like commit a crime), they follow sharia. Are you not aware had been deceived by the kaffirun media? I've said to you a few times, "the shiite kill Muslims, but media reported it's done by ISIS", but you still said "But... they even kill Muslims.".

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So if you have to be within a religion.. Then it means that you have to follow it 100% no matter what is in the book?
Because then I want to ask you:

Do you drink alcohol?
Do you smoke?
Do you do drugs?
Do you cut a theifs hand off?
Do you stone women to death?
Do you kill people who disagree with islam?
Do you want to kill the cartoonists who made the drawings of Muhammed?

That is just a few.. lol

I am getting curious about you and your beliefs when it comes to islam and what you follow from it.

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Quote from: dsyahputera on May 18, 2015, 04:33:32 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 18, 2015, 04:14:10 AM

Quote from: dsyahputera on May 18, 2015, 04:06:13 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 18, 2015, 04:01:27 AM

Quote from: dsyahputera on May 18, 2015, 03:54:26 AM

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ISIS do not kill Muslims. You all have been deceived by the media. Shiite commit violence to Muslims, but media reports that is violence of ISIS.

You think only non-Muslims are affected by the blasts, slaughters etc... done by ISIS? Undecided

Because you said "ISIS *do* kill Muslim", I consider it as intent. They will not intentionally kill Muslims.

EDIT: Do you think only ISIS that doing blasts, slaughters, etc. ? Undecided

Of course, it's killing.

Kill = Cause the death of (a person, animal, or other living thing).

Nope. Many do things like that, not just ISIS.

In fact, if shiite killing Muslims, the media reported that ISIS is doing it, make you believe that ISIS is doing it. News deceive you from the beginning. In fact, ISIS wants to enforce sharia in this world. In fact, kaffirun hate the if the sharia dominate in this world. Then they did all their guile, through the media they lied to the whole human being, including to Muslims, lied that ISIS kill Muslims, lied that ISIS want to destroy ka'bah, lied that the leader of ISIS was died, lied that this everything done by ISIS because political gains, and many more. And the worst thing is, Muslims believe it. That's why I asked you about "have you check that news?" yesterday Sad

So you are essentially concluding ISIS is innocent? ISIS didn't kill Muslims, they ain't cruels etc...?

P.S. Are you telling what media tell about senior ISIS leader is a lie?

Quote from: Hamuki on May 18, 2015, 04:36:18 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 18, 2015, 04:32:13 AM

Quote from: Hamuki on May 18, 2015, 04:24:33 AM

"We are calling on you either to join or carry weapons [to fight] wherever you are."

So... Islam.. Religion of peace..

Yesterday I was browsing liveleak and found a video of a man that was in handcuffs or tied with his hands behind his back while 2 men had some "fun" with him.

While screaming god is great they were stabbing a man with the bayonet on the AK-47 he had.
The man was screaming in pain and the more he was screaming, the more that two monkeys were laughing..

Again.. Religion of Peace?

ISIS isn't following Islam even though they claim they are. They are denying many rules of Islam. How can they be Muslims if they kill innocents including non-Muslims and Muslims?

Who says they are not muslims?

If I say I am muslim, then I am muslim.. If I say I am athiest then I am athiest.
I just personaly have to believe in it.

But I guess they read like a 1st grader.. They see the words: "Kill" "Everyone" "Infedels""Muslim enemies"

So just claiming but no following is enough to be a follower? Hmm...

But... they even kill Muslims.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 18, 2015, 04:32:13 AM

Quote from: Hamuki on May 18, 2015, 04:24:33 AM

"We are calling on you either to join or carry weapons [to fight] wherever you are."

So... Islam.. Religion of peace..

Yesterday I was browsing liveleak and found a video of a man that was in handcuffs or tied with his hands behind his back while 2 men had some "fun" with him.

While screaming god is great they were stabbing a man with the bayonet on the AK-47 he had.
The man was screaming in pain and the more he was screaming, the more that two monkeys were laughing..

Again.. Religion of Peace?

ISIS isn't following Islam even though they claim they are. They are denying many rules of Islam. How can they be Muslims if they kill innocents including non-Muslims and Muslims?

Who says they are not muslims?

If I say I am muslim, then I am muslim.. If I say I am athiest then I am athiest.
I just personaly have to believe in it.

But I guess they read like a 1st grader.. They see the words: "Kill" "Everyone" "Infedels""Muslim enemies"

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 18, 2015, 04:14:10 AM

Quote from: dsyahputera on May 18, 2015, 04:06:13 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 18, 2015, 04:01:27 AM

Quote from: dsyahputera on May 18, 2015, 03:54:26 AM

- snip -

ISIS do not kill Muslims. You all have been deceived by the media. Shiite commit violence to Muslims, but media reports that is violence of ISIS.

You think only non-Muslims are affected by the blasts, slaughters etc... done by ISIS? Undecided

Because you said "ISIS *do* kill Muslim", I consider it as intent. They will not intentionally kill Muslims.

EDIT: Do you think only ISIS that doing blasts, slaughters, etc. ? Undecided

Of course, it's killing.

Kill = Cause the death of (a person, animal, or other living thing).

Nope. Many do things like that, not just ISIS.

In fact, if shiite killing Muslims, the media reported that ISIS is doing it, make you believe that ISIS is doing it. News deceive you from the beginning. In fact, ISIS wants to enforce sharia in this world. In fact, kaffirun hate if the sharia dominate in this world. Then they did all their guile, through the media they lied to the whole human being, including to Muslims, lied that ISIS kill Muslims, lied that ISIS want to destroy ka'bah, lied that the leader of ISIS was died, lied that this everything done by ISIS because political gains, and many more. And the worst thing is, Muslims believe it. That's why I asked you about "have you check that news?" yesterday Sad

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Quote from: thebigtalk on May 18, 2015, 04:28:20 AM

He's using big words right there. Not every muslim wants war so a call to arms wont be that easy.

The majority of Muslims are peaceful.. Because they live in civilized countries.

But.. atleast 10% of all muslims are radical and extremists..

1.5 billion muslims.. 10% = 150 million people who wants to kill the rest of the world.

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Quote from: Hamuki on May 18, 2015, 04:24:33 AM

"We are calling on you either to join or carry weapons [to fight] wherever you are."

So... Islam.. Religion of peace..

Yesterday I was browsing liveleak and found a video of a man that was in handcuffs or tied with his hands behind his back while 2 men had some "fun" with him.

While screaming god is great they were stabbing a man with the bayonet on the AK-47 he had.
The man was screaming in pain and the more he was screaming, the more that two monkeys were laughing..

Again.. Religion of Peace?

ISIS isn't following Islam even though they claim they are. They are denying many rules of Islam. How can they be Muslims if they kill innocents including non-Muslims and Muslims?

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He's using big words right there. Not every muslim wants war so a call to arms wont be that easy.

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"We are calling on you either to join or carry weapons [to fight] wherever you are."

So... Islam.. Religion of peace..

Yesterday I was browsing liveleak and found a video of a man that was in handcuffs or tied with his hands behind his back while 2 men had some "fun" with him.

While screaming god is great they were stabbing a man with the bayonet on the AK-47 he had.
The man was screaming in pain and the more he was screaming, the more that two monkeys were laughing..

Again.. Religion of Peace?

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 18, 2015, 04:01:27 AM

Quote from: dsyahputera on May 18, 2015, 03:54:26 AM

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ISIS do not kill Muslims. You all have been deceived by the media. Shiite commit violence to Muslims, but media reports that is violence of ISIS.

You think only non-Muslims are affected by the blasts, slaughters etc... done by ISIS? Undecided

Because you said "ISIS *do* kill Muslim", I consider it as intent. They will not intentionally kill Muslims.

EDIT: Do you think only ISIS that doing blasts, slaughters, etc. ? Undecided

Of course, it's killing.

Kill = Cause the death of (a person, animal, or other living thing).

Nope. Many do things like that, not just ISIS.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 18, 2015, 04:01:27 AM

Quote from: dsyahputera on May 18, 2015, 03:54:26 AM

- snip -

ISIS do not kill Muslims. You all have been deceived by the media. Shiite commit violence to Muslims, but media reports that is violence of ISIS.

You think only non-Muslims are affected by the blasts, slaughters etc... done by ISIS? Undecided

Because you said "ISIS *do* kill Muslim", I consider it as intent. They will not intentionally kill Muslims.

EDIT: Do you think only ISIS that doing blasts, slaughters, etc. ? Undecided

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I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 18, 2015, 03:52:13 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on May 18, 2015, 02:45:29 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 18, 2015, 01:43:32 AM

Quote from: Aggressor66 on May 17, 2015, 12:26:31 PM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 17, 2015, 12:17:38 PM

Quote from: Aggressor66 on May 17, 2015, 12:14:14 PM

Its about time these extremists are dealt with.
They are all deluded and are giving Muslims a bad name.

We can't call them "extremists" because they don't know anything about Islam and don't follow most rules of Islam. It is better to call them "n00bs". Roll Eyes

or monstrous savages

+1.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 17, 2015, 12:17:38 PM

Quote from: Aggressor66 on May 17, 2015, 12:14:14 PM

Its about time these extremists are dealt with.
They are all deluded and are giving Muslims a bad name.

We can't call them "extremists" because they don't know anything about Islam and don't follow most rules of Islam. It is better to call them "n00bs". Roll Eyes

PLease do not disgrace the honorable word Noobs/n00bs with Isis.

You are saying ISIS is worst than "n00bs", right? I loved it! Cheesy

Noobs here abouts means someone who is a beginner at something. Usually a computer game.

Newbie --> noob --> n00b

Exactly. ISIS don't know about Islam. So they can't be extremists, rather a n00b.

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Quote from: erikalui on May 17, 2015, 07:34:14 AM

Quote from: dsyahputera on May 17, 2015, 01:01:03 AM

You're wrong, they are want to enforce Islamic law (sharia) to the world.

Then why do they kill people of their own religion? They don't consider them worth enough to exist in this world? Terrorists also kill people who belong to their own religion and call it their religious beliefs and some people who dislike the religion believe in it.

Did you mean shiite? Shiite is not Islam, you must know that. ISIS do not kill Muslim, but shiite do.

ISIS *do* kill Muslims.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 17, 2015, 06:48:02 AM

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Out of context verses. You should look what these verses tell. The verses you picked doesn't end there or start there. Those verses tell to fight when the non-Muslims at the time of prophet tortured and killed many Muslims. Muslims had no choice other than to fight and these verses came at that time. It is mentioned in Qur'an that if the non-Muslims(at the time of prophet) didn't want to fight, don't hurt them.

+1

By the way, ISIS will not attack if not attacked first, don't you know?

Nope, they will. There is no need for ISIS to kill others other than for political gains.

ISIS do not kill Muslims. You all have been deceived by the media. Shiite commit violence to Muslims, but media reports that is violence of ISIS.

You think only non-Muslims are affected by the blasts, slaughters etc... done by ISIS? Undecided

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