Topic: Isn't that cheating? (Read 427 times)

Buddy, tranthidung was not the one who launched the bounty campaign, he was merely hired to share the announcement thread. Sure, he he should have been more careful when choosing what to publish (since its obviously a shitcoin project with anon team) but you as a bounty hunter should check it also. You accepted the risk by joining the bounty campaign that didn't escrow tokens so if you don't wanna end up getting screwed, have some standards.


I asked and he answered, but here it is again. Btw, have you tried contacting the team via email?

Situation as this is very common with bounty hunting, a scenario like this is not the first and neither will it be the last, like almost everyone have pointed out, almost every bounty hunter don't read, and that is the major reason why they are always falling into problems.
Me for example, based on my experience as a bounty hunter several years ago, I wouldn't join such a bounty after reading the managers disclaimer, because such a disclaimer portrays the project as scam easily, imagine a bounty campaign where there is no spreadsheet, supposed manager claimed his not in charge of the campaign, and the only way to reach the one who was said to be in charge was through LinkedIn, a social app where it is very possible for a user not to go online even for more than a month.
Though I understand that the manager already said that the bounty hunters would be paid, but personally, I would have been surprised if they never paid the bounty hunters, because this is what the disclaimer says indirectly.

I knew what you are trying to do here. The team is not honoring their bounty campaign and now you want to blame @trant for that. He clearly stated on the disclaimer that he didn’t manage the campaign and he is not responsible on anything happening on the campaign. You should contact Adam Anderson on the linkedin link attached on the bounty campaign for the distribution of your bounty.

By joining on the campaign means you completely read the disclaimer which answer already your concern and questioning about the reputation of the accused.



@Tranthidung, by chance, Can you provide screenshots of your conversation with Adam just satisfied OP that you contact the team and they are aware on the bounty campaign.

why not first read full post and then reply. read all conversation what i discussed with Devolper team member where he clearly says that Tranthidung contacted them and asked to bring users but did not decided any rewards for joiner.

Remember that this 10$ giveaway is for all, where anybody joined bounty or not. bounty has been launched wrong way. according to above conversation its was just Airdrop and 5 minute work one time but Tranthidung launch this in bounty style.

every one talking here about egold token and weather bounty is beneficial for project or not. you can discuss this in other thread or make separate thread. kindly i request DT members to ask Tranthidung for this issue and ask to give details what actually happen.

Just checked out the token on poocoin (got this from their own telegram group), price is around 2.5$ per token and buying with 10,000 usdt (just entered the amount for checking purpose) gives a ~5% price impact on the token. So, I guess the liquidity is not that bad enough for such a coin. You can check yourself on pancakeswap as well. Buying and selling amount by traders is also ok mostly above 1000$.

Well, they don't actually need real money because they pay their campaigners with the share of their own made-up tokens. But what blows my mind is that these tokens have any value at all on exchanges. I haven't checked the trading volume though.

There was a topic about quitting your daily job to do bounty hunting, I can't remember the exact title and the keywords are not helping me but there is another funny one with Pain of bounty hunters
That's one hell for the topic, with some claiming that was the hardest job they've ever had! It's hard work clicking the same button over and over and over!


Probably a few years ago it was working but I really wonder nowadays if all those re-tweets and likes and posts with zero real engagement are actually helping even one bit, I've checked lately what Twitter is doing and it seems they are trashing these kinds of activities and hiding them at the bottom of the pages even if they have the tags you were searching for. Maybe as long as you pay them with money you print yourself at no cost probably they don't care about the results but those must be minimal.


Let's just hope it will be small scale one, the fact that they are not paying the promised share makes me think they haven't got enough money from "investors".

We are in contact. As far as I know, distributions are on the way. Bounty hunters must keep cooperated with the management team with confirmation via email to complete the distribution.

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For others,

Generally, I stated that I did not manage bounties and I've never intended to manage bounties (or had it far in the past and never minded about it later). Reasons are like yahoo brought his points. Bounties in my opinion are bad and bring very little impact for companies. On manager side, it is headache to check works of bounty hunters and handle their complaints.

Many of them joined bounties but even did not spend 1 or 2 minutes to read in OP which has application forms and links. They make a post in Bitcointalk and join bounty groups to ask where is application forms. I am sure those bounty hunters will bring almost zero value to companies. I even asked management team to exclude Newbies because I am sure they are likely zero contributions for projects.

Sometimes, people DMed me to ask whether they should join bounties generally. I said no and they should do other things but it is life and society needs different people to do different jobs.

Important from my experience, when projects distributed tokens to bounty hunters early and especially when their public sales are yet ended, shit happens. Bounty hunters will dump their tokens on DEX and impact company public sale a lot as well as lot of FUD. Projects got that issue even have to create a new token and make token swap to avoid impacts on their sale. It does not end here, they will have to spend time, resources to update their project info on big site like Coinmarketcap and Coingecko. You know, shit happens again, support on Coinmarketcap is not too good and takes a lot of waiting time. Meanwhile, another chance for FUD.

I don't manage bounty but when I can, I advice the guy I collaborated with to tell companies that they must pay attention on distribution time in correlation with their public sale. I also told them to have clear distribution date like if your public sale ends at 9 Feb 2023, bounty distribution time should be only after that day.

About my collaboration for publication, with NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement), I won't reveal details except shit happens from their management team. With disclaimer, I am not responsible for distribution but I always keep up contact with management team about distribution for bounty hunters and advice them to adjust rules for future, for more transparent, better management to avoid fud as well as to bring clearer view for bounty hunters to make decisions (joining or not).

About Escrow idea, I don't take risk to do this. Why I should take that risk if I am not the manager and not responsible for distribution? Shit happened with julerz12 and I won't do the same. Additionally, I recommended the management team to take the bounty budget first, Escrow it for distributions. They can not trust companies for distribution because I am so sure companies mostly are not happy with result from bounties.

Obviously, when shit happens with management team, I will definitely stop working with them.

The first thing I noticed is the name. Every time I see one of these "crypto marketing experts" with generic names like Adam Anderson or Joe Johnston, I immediately smell bullshit even before I see the the profile pic, and that was exactly the case here.


Yep, it really looks bad. Add on that anonymous team and you get the recipe for a disaster.


And yet this farce goes on. Can you imagine someone investing because they somehow stumbled upon an illiterate article on some obscure platform or after watching a poor quality YT video made by some guy who you can barely understand because he used built-in laptop mic. I would really like to witness the negotiations between bounty managers and potential client, to hear all the bs they have to say in order to persuade someone to go for that marketing technique. 

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@Tranthidung are you in contact with the person who hired you to post the bounty, did you get any feedback yet?

If you were to read the terms of the separate campaigns, you would see that nearly all of them say "up to" meaning you do not necessarily qualify for the full reward each week. Then go and read the rules and conditions and you will see that the reward is based on the quality of the work.

Bounty hunters normally do not read anything except how to join. If i'm being honest, in my time of managing bounties I have found that quite a lot of them are pretty incompetent. On top of that, the amount of cheaters in every single campaign is pretty sickening. I am not talking about 1 single person when I write all this, I am talking in general.

Another thing off topic that bothers me is how bounty hunters say "I worked hard". This is the funniest thing to read because I in fact know that it literally takes 1 minute to like a tweet, retweet it, and share the link. There is nothing hard about it. The same thing goes for facebook. Things like articles aren't even very hard because most just copy the info from the company website and post it to various other social media sites. IMO the hardest thing for bounty hunters is those that do original videos. At least some of them do their own work, but you notice a lot of duplicates while grading those as well.

I hate to say it but bounty hunters are mostly a waste of a companies time.

Tranthidung has done nothing wrong so far IMO as well. The only thing he could be blamed for is not getting tokens escrowed and even then it doesn't guarantee everyone is paid anything worth any value. Long as hunters are aware he isn't holding tokens, that's fine as well. Tokens could end up being worth 0 and companies may not even list them. Managers only guarantee for hunters is escrowing eth/btc or something like that.

Hate to be brutally honest but that's what it is.

He did but maybe you didn't notice it. tranthidung wasn't responsible for managing the bounty, was only responsible for posting the thread. It's not the first time happening this. A lot of forum user has posted bounty for other people. Project use the reputation.

Well, he did add a disclaimer that he isn't the one managing the campaign or in charge of it, so at least this one is clear:

but the thing with the fake profile is concerning.


I wonder how did this thing slip through, it's not even that much of a changed image, a simple google reverse search will return tens of results.
And the whole thing is really fishy: https://www.egold.farm/
So you buy plans of virtual hashes like in Farmville and this is supposed to earn you some virtual money that you can exchange only on their platform.  This is going to end badly.

From what you participated in a bounty for which the promised rewards was already some faucet set aside for visiting the site and was supposedly to be used in testing out the site? Is that it...?

As much as you want to scream fraud, I think you should have posted the announcement thread link to the bounty as well so we could check that out in detail and see how this is all lined up.
I don't see Tranthidung for a user that would risk his reputation this way. There would be some mix up somewhere that you don't quite get or maybe your asking the wrong question @OP.

By any chance, do you verify that the team member that you asked about the bounty in the forum is already part of the team when this campaign launch? I think you ask a moderator and not the marketing team since this Bounty campaign is done separately which community moderator is not aware.

Also, The task given here is different on the twitter bounty that you mention which means @Tranthidung is tasked to do it or else he doesn’t have anything to gain posting that campaign on behalf of the team. He is a reputable member so I think he make sure that he is talking to an official team member. This is not cheating if he is not even the bounty manager of that campaign. Always read the disclaimer before you join any campaign so that you will not be mislead by the OP rank and trust.

Currently they have only one token Egold which is tradable in their own exchange if I am not wrong. This token is not yet listed in any other big exchange. They have another contract for ANFT which is Miner and will mine Egold token for you.

In bounty thread it is mentioned that participator will be Given ANFT(Miner). Bounty manager told participants that distribution will be happen on 5 January. Now what's really happen and what was deal with team this can only disclose by Tranthidung and we should wait for his reply.

That's true. However, I still think it's smart to take a closer look before jumping into such campaigns. I mean, the fact that the project highlights "Mining ecosystem built on the metaverse" and uses the name of a previously established project as its selling points are enough red flags for me. Personally, I would never promote or in any way participate in such a project. Unfortunately, many bounty hunters don't really do their research before signing up for these things, and then they complain afterwards.

I don't think that problem here is minor delay of bounty distribution, but one of the team members saying that they have nothing to do with the bounty campaign published by @tranthidung.


He also stated that person in charge of campaign is "Adam Anderson" and he shared his LinkedIn profile (https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-anderson-717b78214/) and its pretty obvious that he uses stock photo for his profile image which is not a good sign. Its also weird that the only way to contact person in charge of the campaign is via his Linkedin profile and not Telegram.

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It may be that people behind EGold simply decided to pretend that they have nothing with that bounty campaign after they saw lack of result (as we've seen this number of times) or that there was miscommunication between person who hired tranthidung to publish the bounty and the actual team. Hard to draw any conclusions about what really happened until he comes here and shares his side of the story.

According to the latest message from the Telegram group, token distribution was set to start on February 5th. It is now February 8th. I don't see what the problem is. Minor delays in token distribution by the team should not be a reason for alarm.


https://t.me/EgoldRewardCampaign/9667

Also, did you read the disclaimer at the end of the bounty campaign post? tranthidung specifically stated that he is not managing that campaign, and that all communication between the company and the participants will be done via email. Have you sent an email to the company?

I don't think Tranthidung was so lost in mind that he launched a campaign without having anything from the management. They must have a deal and in the deal the management agreed to pay the hunters. But we can not verify what was in the conversation between Tranthidung and the management. However, if I have to pick one based on the history, I will pick Tranthidung over the management. They have nothing to lose but Tranthidung have so he is not going to do anything that will effect his reputation.

As Little Mouse suspecting, this could be a miscommunication between you and the management too. Let's hear from Tranthidung.

What did you mean? If there was no bounty from their side, why tranthidung launched the campaign and who have paid tranthidung some cash? Can you relate this? I think there's a misunderstanding between you and the team member you have PMed.
Did you try to contact tranthidung through PM? What did he say? I think it's good to discuss with him rather than posting here. Project owner wants great promotion in return of shit tokens and when they don't get enough of the targeted result, they deny paying hunters. Though it's good to escrow the rewards, not every project allow that.