Topic: Isn't this merit thing getting more monopolistic politics? - page 2. (Read 551 times)
Am glad this thread is open by a legendary member who don't need a merit cause he is already on the highest position in the forum before the introduction of the merit system, will it will not do you any good withholding your smerit because their are being generated just to be given to others who deserve it in other to encourage them for they hard works but this days it very difficult to earn merit.
... mostly everyone here is just to earn a side income, and for most of them, it's a living if they are in a signature campaign.
That's why I don't give merits to members of signature campaigns. I do not want to encourage people to post garbage for money.
I also ignore members of signature campaigns so I never see their posts. As a result, I give away very few merits because 90% of the members are here trying to make money.
<…>- Are merits actually being circulated between those who really need it?
If we narrow the term “need” to being useful in terms of ranking-up, then let’s start by looking at received merit distribution by rank:Code:
rank EarnedMerit %
Administrator 3195 1,11%
Global Moderator 757 ,26%
Donator 1510 ,52%
Founder 1526 ,53%
Staff 4261 1,48%
VIP 383 ,13%
Legendary 52479 18,17%
Hero Member 33784 11,7%
Sr. Member 47463 16,43%
Member 60211 20,85%
Full Member 48454 16,78%
Jr. Member 24418 8,45%
Newbie 9548 3,31%
Brand new 823 ,28%
Total 288812 100,%
Arguably, some ranks do not require merit for ranking-up purposes: Administrator, Global Moderator, Donator, Founder, Staff, VIP and Legendary. That adds up to 22% of total currently awarded sMerit (64.111 sMerits).
Nevertheless, those ranks may require some earned merit in order to participate in campaigns (some top paying campaigns seem to require it), feel a certain level of recognition, and as a side effect redistribute the earned sMerit to others.
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- Are they also helping out others through their sMerits?
I make the following numbers to be reasonably true:600.000 sMerits from the Initial Airdrop
-291.791 Sent sMerits (Merit Sources and Regular users – as of today)
+146.000 minimum organically generated (merit halvings first degree)
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454.209 Total unsent sMerits
Therefore 291.791 sMerits have been sent, but there could be something in the line of 450K unsent sMerit, mostly originated in the initial sMerit Airdrop. Now a lot of that could be related to accounts that are no longer active, do not care for the Merit System, or whatever other reason.
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There's a different sort of thinking I've come across - most people don't use their merits by not sharing them with those who deserve them.
As stated above, the initial unspent sMerit airdrop is an incognita as to why there is still so much. I don’t think it is so much a question of it been hoarded per-se, but rather that there are many people for who the merit game is not attractive, and have no direct operative need for it themselves.If we focus strictly on earned merit that has not been sent, I make it around 38k (see [TOP-200] Members who have a lot of earned sMerits).
Overall, I don’t see too much of an issue to earn a couple of merits for those that create decent enough content, but rather find that ranking-up speed is really slow for the vast majority in the mid-to-high ranks.
Can we get away from the whole concept of merits being awarded to members who need them to supplement their income? Merit should be awarded to encourage good posting, and not to provide an income for some semi-literate spammer who is promoting a scammy project.
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No system can be perfect but so far, since the merit introduction, the forum has taken another shape in respect to quality post. Usually this type of topic are started by lower rank users complaining of not receiving merit but I'm glad you're a legendary rank user that means you truly want answers to your question instead of an attent to draw attention to yourself.
Back to your questions,
Yes, the merits are been circulated between not just those who truly need it but those who deserve the merits. For more info visit the recent merit stats board or keep an eye on this thread "[LOG] The ranked up members - Congratulations!"
Although there are those who give them out, like
Back to your questions,
- Are merits actually being circulated between those who really need it?
Yes, the merits are been circulated between not just those who truly need it but those who deserve the merits. For more info visit the recent merit stats board or keep an eye on this thread "[LOG] The ranked up members - Congratulations!"
- Are they also helping out others through their sMerits?
You mean the merit receivers? Well it's not an obligation to merit others so it's their choice but we have the merit source to fill-in those space for them and in the near future rules will be implemented to decay unused smerit.Although there are those who give them out, like
See Smerit as liabilities to myself and an Asset to others and give them away to deserving users immediately I get them.
and this topic starter "Giving 17 Newbie Members a Chance to Rank Up To J. Member" he started from 4 and now 17 newbies. I can't mention all but we have those who do so. .
OP actually made a whole lot of sense,as I think there are users who hoard their Smerits for the very reason you've outlined,but they happen to be very few of them,and it should not affect a good poster from ranking up as their are a lot of merits sources and members who merit worthy posts.
For now everyone is left to do whatsoever they wish with their Smerits and I think it should be so,more reason the system introduced sources to avoid complaints from users finding it hard to rank up that user A or B is hoarding merits and not giving them out probably to reduce competition for their spot on signature campaigns
For now everyone is left to do whatsoever they wish with their Smerits and I think it should be so,more reason the system introduced sources to avoid complaints from users finding it hard to rank up that user A or B is hoarding merits and not giving them out probably to reduce competition for their spot on signature campaigns
- Are merits actually being circulated between those who really need it?
Maybe, maybe not. It doesn't matter if the person needs it. What's matter if the person deserves it.- Are they also helping out others through their sMerits?
There's a different sort of thinking I've come across - most people don't use their merits by not sharing them with those who deserve them.
There are probably a good number of people here who are not sending out their merits, but I don't think there's anything we can do. If their standards are just really high? Yea, nothing we can do. Content deservedness(for a lack of a better word), is hugely subjective. I personally intentionally lower my judgement slightly with people with lower ranks.There's a different sort of thinking I've come across - most people don't use their merits by not sharing them with those who deserve them.
As for people who don't give out merit just to decrease the competition in signature campaigns though? I think that's quite farfetched. If there were people like that, they're probably a huge minority.
The words I used in the subject above, have got a few more questions to ask:
- Are merits actually being circulated between those who really need it?
- Are they also helping out others through their sMerits?
There's a different sort of thinking I've come across - most people don't use their merits by not sharing them with those who deserve them.
Reason?!
Merits help others to rank up, mostly everyone here is just to earn a side income, and for most of them, it's a living if they are in a signature campaign. Just to stop others from being promoted to higher ranks so as to reduce competition and keep it low (with the fear of losing their own position in that campaign as few may not be confident enough of their capabilities of remaining in the same), they try their best not to share their merits ahead. But for your information, they're given only with the purpose to share on the basis of "Give & Take" tradition and keeping them to ourselves will be stupid and never be useful to us nor others. So, keep sharing merits and love to those users who really deserve those higher ranks we're at.
- Are merits actually being circulated between those who really need it?
- Are they also helping out others through their sMerits?
There's a different sort of thinking I've come across - most people don't use their merits by not sharing them with those who deserve them.
Reason?!
Merits help others to rank up, mostly everyone here is just to earn a side income, and for most of them, it's a living if they are in a signature campaign. Just to stop others from being promoted to higher ranks so as to reduce competition and keep it low (with the fear of losing their own position in that campaign as few may not be confident enough of their capabilities of remaining in the same), they try their best not to share their merits ahead. But for your information, they're given only with the purpose to share on the basis of "Give & Take" tradition and keeping them to ourselves will be stupid and never be useful to us nor others. So, keep sharing merits and love to those users who really deserve those higher ranks we're at.
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