we were talking about an adult discussion you are just throwing lots of text in here \
so from the little i can gather I'm guessing that your question/accusation is that Israel shouldn't exist because it sits on what should be Palestine in your opinion?
please verify or clarify
Topic: Israel - page 2. (Read 1359 times)
I asked to start where we left before you started reporting my posts.
So here it is. Don't laugh too laud.
By the definition LIE is a fabrication which can't be supported with facts or evidences, and since you called me a liar I feel invited to clarify and prove my point.
Here is the list of those as you call them "lies"
UN Resolutions Against Israel, 1955-1992
Resolution 106: "...‘condemns’ Israel for Gaza raid"
Resolution 111: "...‘condemns’ Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people"
Resolution 127: "...‘recommends’ Israel suspend its ‘no-man’s zone’ in Jerusalem"
Resolution 162: "...‘urges’ Israel to comply with UN decisions"
Resolution 171: "...determines flagrant violations’ by Israel in its attack on Syria"
Resolution 228: "...‘censures’ Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control"
Resolution 237: "...‘urges’ Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees"
Resolution 248: "...‘condemns’ Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan"
Resolution 250: "...‘calls’ on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem"
Resolution 251: "...‘deeply deplores’ Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250"
Resolution 252: "...‘declares invalid’ Israel’s acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital"
Resolution 256: "...‘condemns’ Israeli raids on Jordan as ‘flagrant violation"
Resolution 259: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation"
Resolution 262: "...‘condemns’ Israel for attack on Beirut airport"
Resolution 265: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan"
Resolution 267: "...‘censures’ Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem"
Resolution 270: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon"
Resolution 271: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem"
Resolution 279: "...‘demands’ withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon"
Resolution 280: "....‘condemns’ Israeli’s attacks against Lebanon"
Resolution 285: "...‘demands’ immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon"
Resolution 298: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s changing of the status of Jerusalem"
Resolution 313: "...‘demands’ that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon"
Resolution 316: "...‘condemns’ Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon"
Resolution 317: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
Resolution 332: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s repeated attacks against Lebanon"
Resolution 337: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violating Lebanon’s sovereignty"
Resolution 347: "...‘condemns’ Israeli attacks on Lebanon"
Resolution 425: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
Resolution 427: "...‘calls’ on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon’
Resolution 444: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces"
Resolution 446: "...‘determines’ that Israeli settlements are a ‘serious obstruction’ to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
Resolution 450: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon"
Resolution 452: "...‘calls’ on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories"
Resolution 465: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel’s settlements program"
Resolution 467: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s military intervention in Lebanon"
Resolution 468: "...‘calls’ on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return"
Resolution 469: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s failure to observe the council’s order not to deport Palestinians"
Resolution 471: "...‘expresses deep concern’ at Israel’s failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
Resolution 476: "...‘reiterates’ that Israel’s claims to Jerusalem are ‘null and void’
Resolution 478: "...‘censures (Israel) in the strongest terms’ for its claim to Jerusalem in its ‘Basic Law’
Resolution 484: "...‘declares it imperative’ that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors"
Resolution 487: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel for its attack on Iraq’s nuclear facility"
Resolution 497: "...‘decides’ that Israel’s annexation of Syria’s Golan Heights is ‘null and void’ and demands that Israel rescind its decision forthwith"
Resolution 498: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon"
Resolution 501: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops"
Resolution 509: "...‘demands’ that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon"
Resolution 515: "...‘demands’ that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in"
Resolution 517: "...‘censures’ Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
Resolution 518: "...‘demands’ that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon"
Resolution 520: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s attack into West Beirut"
Resolution 573: "...‘condemns’ Israel ‘vigorously’ for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
Resolution 587: "...‘takes note’ of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw"
Resolution 592: "...‘strongly deplores’ the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops"
Resolution 605: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
Resolution 607: "...‘calls’ on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
Resolution 608: "...‘deeply regrets’ that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians"
Resolution 636: "...‘deeply regrets’ Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
Resolution 641: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s continuing deportation of Palestinians
Resolution 672: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
Resolution 673: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
Resolution 681: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
Resolution 694: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
Resolution 726: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians
Resolution 799: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/un.html
Exact links to documents and more can be found here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_UN_resolutions_concerning_Israel_and_Palestine
btw. thanks for calling me a liar, it was kind of expected.
If you want private discussion I am opened for it, but judging by your attitude and evasion of questions asked I feel we won't get anywhere.
Now I kindly ask you to be decent enough and call things as they are.
To be honest only term to be used by the international law are; "illegal occupation", "war crimes" and "state sponsored terrorism", but probably years will pass until we see Israel convicted for those crimes by international court of law.
You have an option here and that is to ignore me (see the magic button under my nick name), or to stop replying to my posts and that will be it. Am I fair or what!
So here it is. Don't laugh too laud.
How much for oranges from occupied territories?
oranges are heavy and they need to be shipped fast and its not the season and they have a big chance of getting stopped at customes...
so it would be very expensive
but if you want it can still be arranged - at your own risk
so it would be very expensive
but if you want it can still be arranged - at your own risk
nah, I probably couldn't stop thinking about Palestinian kids that were forced out from their homes and from their land so zion could have its nazi fruits.
Thanks anyway.
Thanks anyway.
i sent tiros the following message lets see how he replies
your behavior is just rude - your are trying to hijack this thread
with that being said i'll say 2 more things regarding what you say- 1. repeating a lie a hundred times doesn't make it true
2. if (and that's a big if)you are really interested in a real open discussion i'm up for it open a thread and tell me where - or if you rather pm me and we'll see if you opinions are valid when confronted with facts (assuming you aren't a side in which case i don't think a rational discussion is possible since there are to much emotions tied to it)
your behavior is just rude - your are trying to hijack this thread
with that being said i'll say 2 more things regarding what you say- 1. repeating a lie a hundred times doesn't make it true
2. if (and that's a big if)you are really interested in a real open discussion i'm up for it open a thread and tell me where - or if you rather pm me and we'll see if you opinions are valid when confronted with facts (assuming you aren't a side in which case i don't think a rational discussion is possible since there are to much emotions tied to it)
since you are not willing to have a real discussion and you just want to spread your lies i would kindly ask you to do it somewhere else
if you would decide to learn things for yourself and have an open minded discussion(in another thread or pm) i'm here
up until then i would kindly ask you to not respond to this thread any more
thank you,
erik
if you would decide to learn things for yourself and have an open minded discussion(in another thread or pm) i'm here
up until then i would kindly ask you to not respond to this thread any more
thank you,
erik
By the definition LIE is a fabrication which can't be supported with facts or evidences, and since you called me a liar I feel invited to clarify and prove my point.
Here is the list of those as you call them "lies"
UN Resolutions Against Israel, 1955-1992
Resolution 106: "...‘condemns’ Israel for Gaza raid"
Resolution 111: "...‘condemns’ Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people"
Resolution 127: "...‘recommends’ Israel suspend its ‘no-man’s zone’ in Jerusalem"
Resolution 162: "...‘urges’ Israel to comply with UN decisions"
Resolution 171: "...determines flagrant violations’ by Israel in its attack on Syria"
Resolution 228: "...‘censures’ Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control"
Resolution 237: "...‘urges’ Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees"
Resolution 248: "...‘condemns’ Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan"
Resolution 250: "...‘calls’ on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem"
Resolution 251: "...‘deeply deplores’ Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250"
Resolution 252: "...‘declares invalid’ Israel’s acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital"
Resolution 256: "...‘condemns’ Israeli raids on Jordan as ‘flagrant violation"
Resolution 259: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation"
Resolution 262: "...‘condemns’ Israel for attack on Beirut airport"
Resolution 265: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan"
Resolution 267: "...‘censures’ Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem"
Resolution 270: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon"
Resolution 271: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem"
Resolution 279: "...‘demands’ withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon"
Resolution 280: "....‘condemns’ Israeli’s attacks against Lebanon"
Resolution 285: "...‘demands’ immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon"
Resolution 298: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s changing of the status of Jerusalem"
Resolution 313: "...‘demands’ that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon"
Resolution 316: "...‘condemns’ Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon"
Resolution 317: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
Resolution 332: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s repeated attacks against Lebanon"
Resolution 337: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violating Lebanon’s sovereignty"
Resolution 347: "...‘condemns’ Israeli attacks on Lebanon"
Resolution 425: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
Resolution 427: "...‘calls’ on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon’
Resolution 444: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces"
Resolution 446: "...‘determines’ that Israeli settlements are a ‘serious obstruction’ to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
Resolution 450: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon"
Resolution 452: "...‘calls’ on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories"
Resolution 465: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel’s settlements program"
Resolution 467: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s military intervention in Lebanon"
Resolution 468: "...‘calls’ on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return"
Resolution 469: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s failure to observe the council’s order not to deport Palestinians"
Resolution 471: "...‘expresses deep concern’ at Israel’s failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
Resolution 476: "...‘reiterates’ that Israel’s claims to Jerusalem are ‘null and void’
Resolution 478: "...‘censures (Israel) in the strongest terms’ for its claim to Jerusalem in its ‘Basic Law’
Resolution 484: "...‘declares it imperative’ that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors"
Resolution 487: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel for its attack on Iraq’s nuclear facility"
Resolution 497: "...‘decides’ that Israel’s annexation of Syria’s Golan Heights is ‘null and void’ and demands that Israel rescind its decision forthwith"
Resolution 498: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon"
Resolution 501: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops"
Resolution 509: "...‘demands’ that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon"
Resolution 515: "...‘demands’ that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in"
Resolution 517: "...‘censures’ Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
Resolution 518: "...‘demands’ that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon"
Resolution 520: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s attack into West Beirut"
Resolution 573: "...‘condemns’ Israel ‘vigorously’ for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
Resolution 587: "...‘takes note’ of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw"
Resolution 592: "...‘strongly deplores’ the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops"
Resolution 605: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
Resolution 607: "...‘calls’ on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
Resolution 608: "...‘deeply regrets’ that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians"
Resolution 636: "...‘deeply regrets’ Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
Resolution 641: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s continuing deportation of Palestinians
Resolution 672: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
Resolution 673: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
Resolution 681: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
Resolution 694: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
Resolution 726: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians
Resolution 799: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/un.html
Exact links to documents and more can be found here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_UN_resolutions_concerning_Israel_and_Palestine
btw. thanks for calling me a liar, it was kind of expected.
If you want private discussion I am opened for it, but judging by your attitude and evasion of questions asked I feel we won't get anywhere.
Now I kindly ask you to be decent enough and call things as they are.
To be honest only term to be used by the international law are; "illegal occupation", "war crimes" and "state sponsored terrorism", but probably years will pass until we see Israel convicted for those crimes by international court of law.
You have an option here and that is to ignore me (see the magic button under my nick name), or to stop replying to my posts and that will be it. Am I fair or what!
i sent tiros the following message lets see how he replies
your behavior is just rude - your are trying to hijack this thread
with that being said i'll say 2 more things regarding what you say- 1. repeating a lie a hundred times doesn't make it true
2. if (and that's a big if)you are really interested in a real open discussion i'm up for it open a thread and tell me where - or if you rather pm me and we'll see if you opinions are valid when confronted with facts (assuming you aren't a side in which case i don't think a rational discussion is possible since there are to much emotions tied to it)
your behavior is just rude - your are trying to hijack this thread
with that being said i'll say 2 more things regarding what you say- 1. repeating a lie a hundred times doesn't make it true
2. if (and that's a big if)you are really interested in a real open discussion i'm up for it open a thread and tell me where - or if you rather pm me and we'll see if you opinions are valid when confronted with facts (assuming you aren't a side in which case i don't think a rational discussion is possible since there are to much emotions tied to it)
Well, if you seek to be offended over internet maybe it's not a place for you.
Personally I can handle rude vs being kicked out of my home and from my land, so I don't think that is some kind of big deal in this case.
I also have suggestion for this treed since it is named incorrectly, it should say "want something from Palestine".
It is very hard to have rational discussion with zionists, and please note that I don't assume you are one just because you live in Israel and of course you can declare yourself as one or deny it.
To give you some credit, I know there are good guys living in Israel but those bad ones spoil it for everyone and that include Palestinians and the whole rest of the just world.
I wish you good luck in selling stuff, and please have some integrity next time someone ask you to sell him anything grown or produced on someones else land and refuse it as immoral thing to do.
Shalom
Looks like you didn't wait and had to report my posts.
Never mind, I will leave you now to enjoy in your bubble.
Bye.
Never mind, I will leave you now to enjoy in your bubble.
Bye.
OK humor me
what's you question?
what's you question?
Are you stupid? I told you that I am not telling.
so where are you from?
Yes I know you are from Israel, you said so.
i thought we should have an equal middle ground you know I'm from Israel it's only fair you say where you come from
how about the brief representation ?
I think I answered that, and we agree to disagree. I value my privacy and since we should talk about facts, it doesn't matter.
If you plan to turn this thread in some kind of personal attack or accusation we can stop right now.
irrelevant country, def shouldnt have a place on this forum
This a politics thread, what are you talking about?
how about the brief representation ?
I agree about questions.
How about we start where we left?
How about we start where we left?
each of us propose a question - the other one answers it like a ping pong not a string when just one side talkes.
each one who writes here should give a very brief presentation of himself (country of origin, religious faith, country of residence and affiliation if any ) so it can be understood where he comes from.
(more suggestions are welcomes and also might be proposed along the way)
acceptable ?
each one who writes here should give a very brief presentation of himself (country of origin, religious faith, country of residence and affiliation if any ) so it can be understood where he comes from.
(more suggestions are welcomes and also might be proposed along the way)
acceptable ?
irrelevant country, def shouldnt have a place on this forum
if you want an adult discussion in pm or a public thread (not my personal threads)
I'm up for it just tell me where - and we should agree on ground rules
I'm up for it just tell me where - and we should agree on ground rules
How about here?
Propose ground rules.