Topic: Israel has already won, the Palestinians must surrender to avert a disaster - page 2. (Read 5743 times)

Hammas is not a rational fighter. They want to fight to the death and inflict the max damage onto Israel.

You cant be serious, the notion that Israel has already won, the Palestinians must surrender to avert a disaster is so flawed. The Jews go around the world telling everyone we must not forget the holocaust and then we supposed to buy into this crap that might is right you cant have it both ways

So they should surrender and do what? die? I don't understand why people can trow words like surrender on other people, no they have one choice it is resistance, for now the majority of palestinian people are going with peaceful resistance, with some groups fighting but if Israel keeps killing civilians as they do things might change and more palestinians will take arms, and I hope that would never happens.
Resistance is a fundamental right, and there is no other choice for Palestinians, unless you are willing and you have the political power to split your own country with the Palestinians, so Israel can has all the land, and the Palestinians has a place where to live, but I doubt you'll anybody has an inch of your country

Palestinians are willing to accept a two state solution, it's Israel that undermine any peace solution and refuses to accept UN resolutions and La Haye supreme court orders and keeps doing illegal activities, from building illegal settelement and kicking out people out of their land, to killing civilians and imprisoning people without trial.....ect

And soon by China. China is smart and bet on the good horse.

Israel is protected politically by the United States, which is exactly why the Palestinians need to put their freaking pride aside and surrender.
the Israeli's are too strong both militarily and politically, there is no scenario where this ends well for the Palestinians.

Are you being serious ? at least be partial before making judgment and check the chronology of events, Israel attacked 2-3 Gaza, breaking prisoner exchange deal with Hamas, killed Hamas members and bombing Gaza before the rocket started firing, and all this happened between the 12 and 19 of June.

Also the death numbers are reaching 1200 and more to come, but yes one side can do whatever they want as they are protected and no one dare to take real measures against them.

what do you want from me, im simply stating facts. there is a possibility that if the palestinians dont surrender israel will end up killing everyone of them.

continuing to fight a suicide war is not rational, they must put their pride aside and surrender to save themself.

french resistants, during the nazi occupation, were referred as terrorists too... did they stop fighting? me no think so.
fuckin semantics, that israeli propaganda justified a 60 years butchery and invasion with only 2 words: terrorist & antisemite.

LMAO the fucktard nazi boy created a whole thread about his inhuman conception of peace and human rights. But he changed his wording to hide his truly disgusting nature..


like a said, GFY you brainwashed idiot.
this is a bitcoin forum not some isreali propaganda blog.

Why would they lose the war? They have a very advanced military, much of the western world is behind them. Haamas does not have any of this and generally are regarded as terrorists, their only ally is North Korea.

Arab league is the problem...

Yes. They should make rational choice and surrender.

Problem is, the conflict is being financed and supported by neighbor countries. And they don't really care if Palestinians suffer.

Palestinian can accept a fair two state solution, but people like you prefer dead Palestinian...

Perhaps a change of culture and mentality is required
That said the burning tension between these two groups pretty much narrows the field of negotiation but through blood and arms one way or another some sort of solution may be found.
Pretty much when one or both sides have had enough of these wars and do something else an absolute to solve it once and for all.

We can look at the Philippines and the Muslims there for example as one possible solution with the Moro insurgency.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moro_insurgency_in_the_Philippines

On January 24, 2014, Philippine government chief negotiator Miriam Coronel Ferer and MILF chief negotiator Mohagher Iqbal signed a peace agreement in Kuala Lumpur. The agreement would pave the way for the creation of the new Muslim autonomous entity called "Bangsamoro" under a law to be approved by the Philippine Congress. The government aims to set up the region by 2016. The agreement calls for Muslim self-rule in parts of the southern Philippines in exchange for a deactivation of rebel forces by the MILF. MILF forces would turn over their firearms to a third party to be selected by the MILF and the Philippine government. A regional police force would be established, and the Philippine military would reduce the presence of troops and help disband private armies in the area.

That was 45 years in the making.
(And yes in before the MILF references to something else MoFo's  )

if the palestinians surrender it just goes back to how it was before with israel controlling the land and sea borders and airspace and continuing to expel palestinians on the west bank to make way for jewish settlers

the resistance will be victorious only when the lives of ordinary israelis are made miserable enough that they begin to regard the occupation as no longer worthwhile and elect leaders who want to make peace
that means more rocket fire and more dead idf soldiers

its easier to destroy the morale of israelis who are rich american and european jews used to living in luxury than that of the palestinians who have always had nothing

Don't know about that
Seems much more likely that Israel will win virtually every battle but lose the war

I don't understand how either NK got the weapons out of their country, nor how Hammas got the weapons into Palestine. Both countries have blockaids against them.

When did I defend Syria or Iran Please do not try associate my opinion of Israel as support for other dictatorships. I happen to despise them equally. You should include Saudi Arabia on that list.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/10992921/Hamas-and-North-Korea-in-secret-arms-deal.html

WTF ?

@starscream

Maybe he have a problem with history.

Forget it hologram, he can't even comprehend a simple English sentence.

It's like arguing with a potato.