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Quote from: Y3shot on December 03, 2023, 04:55:06 AM

Quote from: Hispo on October 19, 2023, 11:27:08 AM

The last time I checked or remember about Israel and the possesion of mass destruction devices, is that they formaly have said they have some of those arsenals, but on the other hand, it has never been confirmed by third parties they have those devices.

Though, I would not be surprised if they actually have some of them, delivered by the United States and only under the command of use of USA.
Even if USA is their most important ally on this planet, it would be quite irresponsible of them to give those weapons to direct Israeli command, instead some USA commander in the middle east.

Israel is country that normally fobt showcase the nuclear weapons they have , but I know Israel is powerful country with diverse weapons. Israel has one of the best military in the world but my concern is that I just wish this fight comes to an end because it will define affect the common people. I dislike war because it is a terrible condition expecially those who were not prepare for it, no food to eat and no drug to take. I hope everything becomes calm.

I have got the impression that when comes to military capabilities, Israel mostly rely on the quality of their training and not the number of combatants, they are a small country so they cannot possibly have many people to fight, they have to focus on train the few the have as much as possible and invest in technology to defend themselves.
People tend to over-estimatr the power of Israel as well, I believe their real power comes for the close alliance it's has with the United States and other western governments, without them Israel may not stand a chance against it's Arab neighbors.

The fight and their desire to fight comes from their wish to hold land and to defend the legacy for their future generations. One can call it Zionism or their right to exist, but one cannot deny their determination.

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Quote from: Hispo on October 19, 2023, 11:27:08 AM

The last time I checked or remember about Israel and the possesion of mass destruction devices, is that they formaly have said they have some of those arsenals, but on the other hand, it has never been confirmed by third parties they have those devices.

Though, I would not be surprised if they actually have some of them, delivered by the United States and only under the command of use of USA.
Even if USA is their most important ally on this planet, it would be quite irresponsible of them to give those weapons to direct Israeli command, instead some USA commander in the middle east.

Israel is country that normally fobt showcase the nuclear weapons they have , but I know Israel is powerful country with diverse weapons. Israel has one of the best military in the world but my concern is that I just wish this fight comes to an end because it will define affect the common people. I dislike war because it is a terrible condition expecially those who were not prepare for it, no food to eat and no drug to take. I hope everything becomes calm.

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Quote from: Volimack on November 08, 2023, 08:17:03 AM

Israel is not scary, since the Hamas campaign, the Israeli forces have been extremely aggressive on Palestine. Attacking one after another. The civilians of Gaza are passing their days in a pitiful condition, being harassed not only physically but also mentally. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has promised a strong response to the attack. Israel says Hamas has declared war on them. This incident has created reactions around the world. Let's see how any country or international alliance views this situation or what response they have shown.

Isreal is only trying to protect their citizens and prevent the future attacks on their soil. The world should know this and not tag it like isreal was the first that started the war. The Hamas are meant to be blamed not the Israel government. This war is not going to last and the Hamas would have to release the people that was arrested and send them back to there country. This is the only way the war is going to end and that region would see peace again.

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Quote from: Elpeor00 on November 28, 2023, 08:04:10 PM

Israel's "nuclear opacity" policy originates no just the fear OP shows, but also is the origin of several conspiracy theories and "maybe true, maybe myths" ideas, the two main ones are:

The above mentioned idea about Israel and apartheid era South Africa developing together weapons of mass destruction, allegedly culminating in their first functional nuke

And the "Samson Option" thing, about Israel aiming those alleged nukes to everyone around including their own allies and ready to launch them in case of imminent military defeat

Maybe too fantastic, but again, we likely will never know for sure

I have read about the nuclear Opacity of Israel and I must admit that it is indeed one of the most disturbing things about that nation. They won't either confirm or deny their nuclear arsenal.
Their idea is to persuade their enemies to attack them through the uncertainty of the existence of such dangerous weapons. It may sound like an intelligent strategy, perhaps it is better than openly claiming to have nuclear warheads and promise a retaliation if anything happens.

It would be better if neither side had those weapons and the two states solution got implemented between Palestine and Israel.

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Israel is scary I don't think so but the war between Israel and Palestine has led to a basically scary situation. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is indeed a deeply complex and acute problem that has caused suffering and fear for both Israelis and Palestinians. This protracted conflict has seen periods of violence, including war, terrorism and ongoing conflict, which have had a lasting impact on the region and its people. The fear and uncertainty created by these conflicts is because innocent civilians are often caught in the crossfire, resulting in loss of life, displacement and deep trauma. Acknowledging the severity of this conflict and working towards a peaceful solution that ensures the safety and well-being of all affected.

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Israel's "nuclear opacity" policy originates no just the fear OP shows, but also is the origin of several conspiracy theories and "maybe true, maybe myths" ideas, the two main ones are:

The above mentioned idea about Israel and apartheid era South Africa developing together weapons of mass destruction, allegedly culminating in their first functional nuke

And the "Samson Option" thing, about Israel aiming those alleged nukes to everyone around including their own allies and ready to launch them in case of imminent military defeat

Maybe too fantastic, but again, we likely will never know for sure

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Quote from: Hispo on October 19, 2023, 11:27:08 AM

The last time I checked or remember about Israel and the possesion of mass destruction devices, is that they formaly have said they have some of those arsenals, but on the other hand, it has never been confirmed by third parties they have those devices.

Though, I would not be surprised if they actually have some of them, delivered by the United States and only under the command of use of USA.
Even if USA is their most important ally on this planet, it would be quite irresponsible of them to give those weapons to direct Israeli command, instead some USA commander in the middle east.

I feel that nations might want to own up that they have certain destructive weapons, so other nations will fear them, some will even showoff their military drills to show readiness for battle, with the aim of intimidating their neighboring countries. So if Israel, have the weapon of mass destruction or not, for the fact that America, supports them totally means that they're to be dreaded in terns of warfare. I think that these weapons of mass destruction, should not be exported to other countries, because it can be compromised along the way and if it gets into the wrong hands, that'll be disastrous for the whole world. It's best for this evil creations to be allowed in the hands of a few civilized nations., that will not abuse the power to use them.

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Quote from: blckhawk on October 19, 2023, 10:44:11 AM

Remember that time when a reporter asked a politician from Israel about Israel having a nuclear arsenal or weapon in the country and the politician didn't have a straight answer and tries to answer in a way that doesn't answer the question but the reporter kept on insisting that it's a simple yes or no question which it is but the politician can't answer it? Now that they're on a war against Palestine, it's scares me that they're probably going to do anything for their country to survive, this will probably be the conflict that's going to answer that question. I don't have the link to that interview but I can remember it, hopefully someone knows about that interview too.

I know if you are an Israelite you will also support your country to fight against the Palestine that are ready to do anything to kill the people of the Israelites. War should not be an option but Israel needed to fight back because the tragic scene will keep happening.
I don't support any party but I am against the killing of innocent people. Are the pelestine innocent? No they are not, they started everything and they have to cleae the plate which they used to commit attack on innocent people that are living peacefully.

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Quote from: Baki202 on November 25, 2023, 06:27:05 AM

Quote from: Volimack on November 08, 2023, 08:17:03 AM

Israel is not scary, since the Hamas campaign, the Israeli forces have been extremely aggressive on Palestine. Attacking one after another. The civilians of Gaza are passing their days in a pitiful condition, being harassed not only physically but also mentally. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has promised a strong response to the attack. Israel says Hamas has declared war on them. This incident has created reactions around the world. Let's see how any country or international alliance views this situation or what response they have shown.

To me Israel is scary and I know even their war against palatine was to show the world that they are not to be messed with, I will go to a country to murder some of their soldiers and expect them not to retaliate even all the aggressive attacks was as a result of the vengeance of their soldiers that were killed, and war is not good and all this is because Israel doesn't want to show that they are weak, they are already doing negotiations for the hostages so we hope the war should end.

It was the second day that hostages were getting released by Hamas.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/11/25/israel-hamas-live-news-prisoners-and-captives-welcomed-home

For now there is a pause but we never know what is going to happen after the 4 day pause.

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Quote from: Volimack on November 08, 2023, 08:17:03 AM

Israel is not scary, since the Hamas campaign, the Israeli forces have been extremely aggressive on Palestine. Attacking one after another. The civilians of Gaza are passing their days in a pitiful condition, being harassed not only physically but also mentally. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has promised a strong response to the attack. Israel says Hamas has declared war on them. This incident has created reactions around the world. Let's see how any country or international alliance views this situation or what response they have shown.

To me Israel is scary and I know even their war against palatine was to show the world that they are not to be messed with, I will go to a country to murder some of their soldiers and expect them not to retaliate even all the aggressive attacks was as a result of the vengeance of their soldiers that were killed, and war is not good and all this is because Israel doesn't want to show that they are weak, they are already doing negotiations for the hostages so we hope the war should end.

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Quote from: Coojhb on November 22, 2023, 01:47:43 PM

I don't think Israel is scary. Its just surrounded by a bunch a coward Arab countries who don't have courage to fight and defend themselves. Israel is always ready to fight while KSA KING is busy making peace deals with everyone around the world.

For some reason Israel is supported by USA so much and reason is not clear to me. During 1973 Arab conflict with Israel, USA jumped in supplied tanks via airlift that saved Israel. It was for the first time in history that tanks were supplied via aircraft's. It's very obvious that Israel cant survive without support of USA.

They have nothing to fight. The only country with armaments in the region is Iran but are also cautious for they are surrounded by countries they also have conflict with. If they ever destroyed Israel, they would all be bombing each other after it.

But all the rest depends on the US army that's why the US has a bunch of military camps on each border. You could either look at it that way or the US also has to make sure they fight each other so they have reason to occupy.

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I don't think Israel is scary. Its just surrounded by a bunch a coward Arab countries who don't have courage to fight and defend themselves. Israel is always ready to fight while KSA KING is busy making peace deals with everyone around the world.

For some reason Israel is supported by USA so much and reason is not clear to me. During 1973 Arab conflict with Israel, USA jumped in supplied tanks via airlift that saved Israel. It was for the first time in history that tanks were supplied via aircraft's. It's very obvious that Israel cant survive without support of USA.

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Quote from: tvbcof on November 12, 2023, 01:38:39 PM

American press will never tell you about "our greatest ally" and it's secret nuclear and nerve gas
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zSKM4hACaRoO/

Israel could easily gas most of the Gaza and get rid of all the people there with chemical or biological weapons and just say it was 'Hamas' who did it. It matters not a bit whether there is a shred of evidence presented, weather it makes any sense, or whether it would even be possible. Most of the people who actually matter will grasp at anything to let Israel off the hook so they will happily glom on to the story. Most likely it will be classified as anti-semitism to deny the official 'Hamas weapons accident' narrative and thus be criminalized in most Western countries. To be extra-safe just make the U.S. do the deed then if needed just scapegoat the sin off onto 'the Americans.' Those installed as 'leaders' to run the U.S. would be happy to take the blame.

And still claim they are the people of God. It was on the news that they were also planning to smoke the Hamas inside the tunnel, I have no idea what it means when they say smoke but it must be a bioweapon to force those men out or die under the tunnel and this was before they consider the hostage exchange.

They are willing to kill their own men in order to kill the Hamas. But it's not surprising anymore, they were bombing hospitals.

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It's funny, Israel had a ministerial cabinet member basically admit that the state had nuclear weapons by saying they could always opt to nuke gaza out of existence with their nuclear arsenal, only for the country's Prime Minister to reprimand him, not for the sake of humanity, but because he made such a revelation.

It's sickening. I hope these people will be tried for crimes against humanity soon.

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Finally there is a positive news that Israel is agree on a four day cease fire. Hamas will release 50 Israeli captives and in return Israel will release 150 Palestinians mostly under age of 19.
There are 14000 confirmed Palestinians causalities in this conflict and many people are still missing. Gaza has population of around 2 million, so Israel will be happy that he has eliminated a big part of Gaza population. Even in a year long conflict between two equal powers i.e. Ukarine and Russia we have lesser number of causalities.
Who wins in this conflict is still not clear but its the innocent civilians who paid the price. Thanks to social media activists of Gaza I know have a clear understanding of how CNN, BBC, SKY news are manipulating facts and justifying Israel war crimes.

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Because of this acquisition of nuclear weapons in the world, the "League of Nations" was formed to destroy the war weapons and create peace and harmony but war with it nature can not be controlled by human being so second world war escalated and acquisition of weapons continue. And as it is now, no country can stop the other countries for the acquisition of weapons. In 2013 to 2015, North Korea was testing their nuclear weapons.

Well Israel has not used the nuclear weapons they have but they are using other heavy weapons and America is also supporting them so they are on the winning side of the war. And from my own opinion Palestine caused the war by killing over 300 personnels of Israel and Israel now is on the revenge action.

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Better pick a side and choose carefully. 'Lists' are being drawn up.

Michael Rapaport: "Jewish Friends Are Making a List" | Lack of Support for Israel = Naughty List
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4YHE5rXmJE2t/

Michael Rapaport son of Hungarian born David Rapaport has been speaking candidly about his disappointment of the "lack of support for Israel" amid the ongoing Israel-Palestinian conflict. He went as far as saying that his Jewish friends are making "naughty and nice" lists. Those who have voice support for Israel's ongoing genocidal war on the Palestinian civilians will find it easy to get "loans" and "money for investments". As for those who have supported peace, or displeasure with Israels conduct or even as far as not "speaking up" in support of Israel the naughty list.

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American press will never tell you about "our greatest ally" and it's secret nuclear and nerve gas
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zSKM4hACaRoO/

Israel could easily gas most of the Gaza and get rid of all the people there with chemical or biological weapons and just say it was 'Hamas' who did it. It matters not a bit whether there is a shred of evidence presented, weather it makes any sense, or whether it would even be possible. Most of the people who actually matter will grasp at anything to let Israel off the hook so they will happily glom on to the story. Most likely it will be classified as anti-semitism to deny the official 'Hamas weapons accident' narrative and thus be criminalized in most Western countries. To be extra-safe just make the U.S. do the deed then if needed just scapegoat the sin off onto 'the Americans.' Those installed as 'leaders' to run the U.S. would be happy to take the blame.

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Quote from: Volimack on November 08, 2023, 08:17:03 AM

Israel is not scary, since the Hamas campaign, the Israeli forces have been extremely aggressive on Palestine. Attacking one after another. The civilians of Gaza are passing their days in a pitiful condition, being harassed not only physically but also mentally. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has promised a strong response to the attack. Israel says Hamas has declared war on them. This incident has created reactions around the world. Let's see how any country or international alliance views this situation or what response they have shown.

I believe OP means that Israel is scary in term of military response to the attack and also the fact Israel as a country has most of the backing of Western countries, being the most highlighted case the United States. Also, you should keep in mind that Israel has alledgely one of the most far right governments and also many extreme nationalists in their government. I recall a news about one of them, personally giving away assault weapons to Israeli settlers, that was quite disturbing, to be honest, knowing how Palestinian are displaced by settlers.
That is what I think he meant with "scary". Any country has the right to defend itself against terrorists, but this middle eastern situation is indeed scary.

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Quote from: blckhawk on October 19, 2023, 10:44:11 AM

Now that they're on a war against Palestine, it's scares me that they're probably going to do anything for their country to survive

The unrevealed of the politician pertaining the said amination has nothing to be worried about. In my native parable, there is a saying that... " You shouldn't be so relaxed that you have the best planning when you don't know the plans of the others".
Israel is not scary and not also Palestine is scary. What is scary about is the war that is destroying lives and properties for all lives and valuables matters.

Meanwhile... If Israel should do everything possible to protect its people, of course that is the best expected of a government having a drastic measure to prioritize its primary concerns towards its citizens and nation at large.
So not only Israel striving to protect its nation but also as the Palestine's.

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