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October 08, 2015, 06:36:26 PM
#76
And, just in case, here's a selection of Stan quotes from this thread for posterity:

We need to be careful about crying "scam" all the time until we take the time to understand the underlying business models and what an issuer is trying to accomplish for her target customers.

We're not in Kansas anymore, Toto, and every innovative digital asset is not trying to be a payment coin.

That means you need to do your homework before you invest in anything.  And before you criticize it.

But that homework is much more than superficial arguments about Proof of Manhood or how decentralized something really is or whether the solution is "sufficiently cryptolitically correct", whatever that means.

Serious businesses are starting to enter the space with serious services they are offering to serious customers.

If a serious business is meeting the needs of serious customers then we do everybody a disservice by making the coinmarketcap ecosystem into a never-ending firing range for people who have no idea what they are criticizing or how to fairly evaluate it.

Keep it up and you'll kill off most of the innovation you are hoping to invest in.  That, or serious businesses will take their opportunities elsewhere.
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What a coincidence!

Max Wright just released this interview with Dan Larimer on User Issued Assets!

User Issued Assets

A detailed written explanation can be found here:

https://bitshares.org/technology/user-issued-assets/


Once you've pondered BanxShares with these new mind-expanding concepts in your head you'll see that there is much more you can do with crypto than the minds of men have yet to imagine.

Just like all the cool things you can do with plutonium.

My only recommendation is that financial products like this are better off being listed on the BitShares Exchange Network (BEN) as user issued assets rather than as stand-alone coins.  On Big BEN they would find higher performance, lower costs, greater network effect, and informed, economically aware people who are looking for lucrative new business models and financial instruments in which to trade, speculate, and invest.


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Just for a laugh, decided to run the numbers.

Being too lazy to get the calculator out, I estimate total BANX trading on Banx.io at around 13 BTC / $3250 over the last 24 hours.
CMC shows 62 BTC / $15,500:
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/banxshares/#markets

Er....anyone got a sane explanation ?


How about most of them are HODLers in the underlying asset so they can get a piece of its profits instead of a piece of its appreciation?  Such assets don't trade that much, especially if they belong to private shareholders of a real company.

Again, expand your thinking about the kinds of things transparent ledger technology is good for.

Watch the 5 minutes with Max clip again and again until...


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Swift kick.......love the [ANN], btw:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-banx-capital-joins-bitshares-exchange-network-1097350

Any actual news to report ?

Seeing two Top Ten assets share one industrial grade blockchain:  Nice!

Seeing four exchanges partnering to produce a market bigger than their individual stovepipes:  Very Nice!

Realizing that your own coin or exchange is welcome to join the same party:  Priceless!



Yep, I like that.
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October 08, 2015, 06:32:48 PM
#75
I've just noticed that the most annoying BTS shill ever, Bitcoinjesus, seems to have deleted all of his posts here......wonder why ?

Still, I did find one:

We need to be careful about crying "scam" all the time until we take the time to understand the underlying business models and what an issuer is trying to accomplish for her target customers.

Correct, Banxshares is most definitely not a scam.

Conducting business with Banxshares may currently require a level of human trust that is foreign to those of us accustomed to reserving our trust for immutable ledger blockchain-based businesses, however, I'm sure that you can trust that the good people behind Banxshares are not selling you a fractionally reserved product.  Exactly which part of their business is anchored by an immutable ledger is unclear at this point, however, I'm sure that they are planning on integrating Satoshi's invention into their accounting soon because why else would coinmarketcap publish their marketcap?

Ok, so diving through your sarcasm I think the best you can say is buyer beware just in case Banx doesn't deliver against its business plan.  Isn't that a risk with investing in anything?

Its not as if Banx is claiming to be something it isn't....

Hmmm....I am back to ROFLíng for a while.
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September 16, 2015, 10:44:06 AM
#74
New topic about Banxshares and some unanswered questions:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/are-banxshares-as-good-as-gaw-paycoin-1181883
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June 26, 2015, 09:05:03 PM
#73
In order to accommodate the traffic on the http api the in memory cache had to be changed some coins would create multiple entries and in the end wind up having inconsistent data. The cache used by the WSSR api is a separate system and was not affected by this bug. There are 2-3 tiers of caching depending on what the data is and how imperative it is to be completely correct and if the data in the cache is not correct or is inserted more than 1 time multiple results will be returned with the same head resulting in inflated numbers.

ala:

order 1, vol 1
order 1, vol 1

[call get order 1]
order 1, vol 2

this is just an example to make it visual and not how the cache actually looks (if you could look at it) :-)

So I hope that clears things up for everyone. Any questions please feel free to contact me.

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June 25, 2015, 04:24:26 PM
#72
thanks @poloskarted for pointing me to this thread.  

It seems that ByronP has corrected the mistake on the API endpoint.  I'll make sure the volume history data on CMC is adjusted accordingly.

Good to see. Thanks for the swift action, it gives some faith to your ability to address community concerns.

Will be keeping one eye on it's transition to the rightful crypto-assets section once it's finds a home on stan's sturdy food grade bitshares platform , as he posted earlier

and perhaps another keen eye on the banx charts inevitable slope downward when a free market does what free markets do, and decides the logical worth for things given time... and  crucially, the ability to sell as well as buy

So you know we ByronP and I addressed the issue directly with Gliss last week. Like I have said before we are here for the longer term plan. Your comment re the free market are correct. i am all about a free market, but I am also about getting the remainder of our shares sold to private investors so that we can scale and make the different phases of our plans a reality.

Can I assume that you are now happy and we can draw a line under this? Maybe even you could correct the subject of this thread and acknowledge there is no scam? Or maybe even reveal who you actually are too ?

I have corrected the thread title. As far as who I am goes, I am just a passive observer in the markets- I have no significant biases against your project aside from noticing an inconsistency which I felt indicated either a) some level of deception or b) a genuine error, either way I felt it's important for market participants to be exposed to correct, non-inflated trading data in order to make sound investment decisions. I don't particularly feel your project is worthy of it's $10 million dollar valuation but I certainly have nothing against you for getting out there and making your vision come to life, and I at least appreciate the fact you have shown up to address concerns. I am happy with the fix and we can draw a line under this.




Thank you. Much appreciated.
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June 25, 2015, 04:23:30 PM
#71
@EvilDave - glad you are happy with our resolution and response Smiley

Yup, I'm happy that it's resolved, any idea what the cause of the problem was ?





Too technical for me ByronP resolved it Smiley
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June 25, 2015, 08:42:40 AM
#70
@EvilDave - glad you are happy with our resolution and response Smiley

Yup, I'm happy that it's resolved, any idea what the cause of the problem was ?



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June 25, 2015, 07:17:26 AM
#69
thanks @poloskarted for pointing me to this thread.  

It seems that ByronP has corrected the mistake on the API endpoint.  I'll make sure the volume history data on CMC is adjusted accordingly.

Good to see. Thanks for the swift action, it gives some faith to your ability to address community concerns.

Will be keeping one eye on it's transition to the rightful crypto-assets section once it's finds a home on stan's sturdy food grade bitshares platform , as he posted earlier

and perhaps another keen eye on the banx charts inevitable slope downward when a free market does what free markets do, and decides the logical worth for things given time... and  crucially, the ability to sell as well as buy

So you know we ByronP and I addressed the issue directly with Gliss last week. Like I have said before we are here for the longer term plan. Your comment re the free market are correct. i am all about a free market, but I am also about getting the remainder of our shares sold to private investors so that we can scale and make the different phases of our plans a reality.

Can I assume that you are now happy and we can draw a line under this? Maybe even you could correct the subject of this thread and acknowledge there is no scam? Or maybe even reveal who you actually are too ?

I have corrected the thread title. As far as who I am goes, I am just a passive observer in the markets- I have no significant biases against your project aside from noticing an inconsistency which I felt indicated either a) some level of deception or b) a genuine error, either way I felt it's important for market participants to be exposed to correct, non-inflated trading data in order to make sound investment decisions. I don't particularly feel your project is worthy of it's $10 million dollar valuation but I certainly have nothing against you for getting out there and making your vision come to life, and I at least appreciate the fact you have shown up to address concerns. I am happy with the fix and we can draw a line under this.


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June 25, 2015, 05:24:57 AM
#68
@EvilDave - glad you are happy with our resolution and response Smiley
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June 25, 2015, 05:23:35 AM
#67
thanks @poloskarted for pointing me to this thread.  

It seems that ByronP has corrected the mistake on the API endpoint.  I'll make sure the volume history data on CMC is adjusted accordingly.

Good to see. Thanks for the swift action, it gives some faith to your ability to address community concerns.

Will be keeping one eye on it's transition to the rightful crypto-assets section once it's finds a home on stan's sturdy food grade bitshares platform , as he posted earlier

and perhaps another keen eye on the banx charts inevitable slope downward when a free market does what free markets do, and decides the logical worth for things given time... and  crucially, the ability to sell as well as buy

So you know we ByronP and I addressed the issue directly with Gliss last week. Like I have said before we are here for the longer term plan. Your comment re the free market are correct. i am all about a free market, but I am also about getting the remainder of our shares sold to private investors so that we can scale and make the different phases of our plans a reality.

Can I assume that you are now happy and we can draw a line under this? Maybe even you could correct the subject of this thread and acknowledge there is no scam? Or maybe even reveal who you actually are too ?
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June 25, 2015, 05:19:01 AM
#66
Coinmarketcap will soon list BANX among the other "cryptoassets" because that is exactly what it is.  Therefore, it is not a "scam" but a "listing error" that will be corrected.

I have spoken with Gliss at CMC about this and when Banx Shares move to the Bitshares blockchain they will be then classed as an asset.
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June 25, 2015, 03:02:21 AM
#65
thanks @poloskarted for pointing me to this thread. 

It seems that ByronP has corrected the mistake on the API endpoint.  I'll make sure the volume history data on CMC is adjusted accordingly.

Ta-da! The numbers actually match up: 19BTC /  $4700 everywhere I look:
Code:
83954	Buy	0.00671000	386.77338308	2.59524940	Jun 25, 2015 8:53 AM
83948 Buy 0.00671000 203.40511534 1.36484832 Jun 25, 2015 7:29 AM
83947 Buy 0.00671000 297.59491418 1.99686187 Jun 25, 2015 6:00 AM
83946 Buy 0.00671000 9.92516188 0.06659784 Jun 25, 2015 5:28 AM
83945 Buy 0.00671000 112.22279933 0.75301498 Jun 25, 2015 4:57 AM
83943 Buy 0.00671000 2.14864066 0.01441738 Jun 25, 2015 4:25 AM
83942 Buy 0.00671000 95.19037822 0.63872744 Jun 25, 2015 3:53 AM
83941 Buy 0.00671000 259.51797869 1.74136564 Jun 25, 2015 2:29 AM
83937 Buy 0.00671000 230.46048988 1.54638989 Jun 25, 2015 12:57 AM
83936 Buy 0.00671000 164.32786756 1.10263999 Jun 24, 2015 11:36 PM
83934 Buy 0.00671000 2.00000000 0.01342000 Jun 24, 2015 8:08 PM
83933 Buy 0.00671000 122.00000000 0.81862000 Jun 24, 2015 7:29 PM
83932 Buy 0.00671000 140.00000000 0.93940000 Jun 24, 2015 6:24 PM
83931 Buy 0.00671000 201.17734723 1.34990000 Jun 24, 2015 5:19 PM
83930 Buy 0.00671000 81.00000000 0.54351000 Jun 24, 2015 4:59 PM
83921 Buy 0.00671000 101.00000000 0.67771000 Jun 24, 2015 3:31 PM
83916 Buy 0.00671000 96.00000000 0.64416000 Jun 24, 2015 2:25 PM
83915 Buy 0.00671000 66.00000000 0.44286000 Jun 24, 2015 1:24 PM
83914 Buy 0.00671000 127.00000000 0.85217000 Jun 24, 2015 12:20 PM
83913 Buy 0.00671000 113.00000000 0.75823000 Jun 24, 2015 10:59 AM
83911 Buy 0.00671000 92.00000000 0.61732000 Jun 24, 2015 9:55 AM

from Banx.io trade history....and here on CMC:
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/banxshares/#markets

Trading volume problem solved.

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June 25, 2015, 02:07:40 AM
#64
Always compare a coin you going to invest in to guldencoin, guldencoin is more useful then 99% of the alts and sitting at 90 something on coinmarketcap. I always use guldencoin as my base to see if another coin is under or over valued, then again I am a long term investor in cryptos , making quick money is not a requirement for me.
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June 25, 2015, 12:03:24 AM
#63
thanks @poloskarted for pointing me to this thread.  

It seems that ByronP has corrected the mistake on the API endpoint.  I'll make sure the volume history data on CMC is adjusted accordingly.

Good to see. Thanks for the swift action, it gives some faith to your ability to address community concerns.

Will be keeping one eye on it's transition to the rightful crypto-assets section once it's finds a home on stan's sturdy food grade bitshares platform , as he posted earlier

and perhaps another keen eye on the banx charts inevitable slope downward when a free market does what free markets do, and decides the logical worth for things given time... and  crucially, the ability to sell as well as buy
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June 24, 2015, 07:56:40 PM
#62
Swift kick.......love the [ANN], btw:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-banx-capital-joins-bitshares-exchange-network-1097350

Any actual news to report ?

Seeing two Top Ten assets share one industrial grade blockchain:  Nice!

Seeing four exchanges partnering to produce a market bigger than their individual stovepipes:  Very Nice!

Realizing that your own coin or exchange is welcome to join the same party:  Priceless!

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June 24, 2015, 07:25:15 PM
#61
thanks @poloskarted for pointing me to this thread. 

It seems that ByronP has corrected the mistake on the API endpoint.  I'll make sure the volume history data on CMC is adjusted accordingly.
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June 24, 2015, 04:44:08 PM
#60
Swift kick.......love the [ANN], btw:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-banx-capital-joins-bitshares-exchange-network-1097350

Any actual news to report ?
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June 23, 2015, 06:17:50 PM
#59
By 'does nothing with it' you mean 'nothing apart from dominating the assets market and creating an ecosystem worth more than the total market cap of NXT itself ', I assume ?

Anyhow, much as I love the old BTS vs NXT grudge match......can we move back on-topic ?
You lot do know that this topic is about Banxshares, not Bitshares, right ?

Agreed it's off topic. So to stay on topic, for you complainers if you see an error somewhere please report it to me. If you don't like or understand assets don't be a BANX holder. If you don't like me or management then don't be a BANX holder. If you don't like... you guessed it don't be a holder! It's a simple concept.

We've shown you the 'error' in Banxshares trading volume: the numbers from Banx.io (the only trading platform for BANX) and the numbers from CMC.com do not match up.
And we're not talking about a small error, either. The reported trading on CMC ( $15,000)  is approximately 5 times higher than the trading shown on Banx.io ( $3000).


If Banxshares is a legitimate project, I'd expect them to take a look at this issue, figure out where the problem lies, then correct it and issue a sane statement. (that's a hint, btw)

If they are a scam.....I'd expect some defensive BS and a complete lack of action.
...

Yes showing me there is an error somewhere and calling something a scam are 2 totally different things... The exchange may say Banx on it but it is still me writing the code and running it of which history has shown I don't play games and would not have anything to do with any company that is just out for a dollar. So in response I open the following document

http://cdn.banx.io/bioersl/open/Error_Report_1618151_177_C21_0_2.pdf

Once there is a status update I will let you know.


I refer you both to this post from ByronP ^^
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June 23, 2015, 06:16:52 PM
#58
@poloskarted you have'nt addressed the issue of why you are not using your real BCT account? Something to hide ?
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June 23, 2015, 06:14:09 PM
#57
ByronP has already said he is addressing the error issue on the exchange. And he will.
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