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Quote from: jerry0 on March 24, 2021, 01:39:13 AM

So is it safe to say lot of us users are using binance with a vpn then?

What about us citizens who are abroad almost all the time and use binance abroad? Like imagine they are abroad in thailand or whatever country almost all year etc.

You could say you are safe so long as they don't ask for KYC, but once they ask you to verify, then you might be in some little trouble. Use of VPN is just one way of trying to mask one's real location but there are so many otherwise Binance could suspect that you are using a VPN especially if you are not consistent.
The cookies they collect or the transaction history could give you away for example

Just check out the privacy policy and see how much data they collect from your device, account, browser etc you will be shocked -

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Quote from: MrSunshine on March 25, 2021, 07:03:58 AM

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Quote from: samdan777712 on March 08, 2021, 11:56:34 PM

Has anyone noticed that binance has gotten really good at catching vpn users? Have you had this happen to you? Do you know of better ways to avoid it with your browser and vpn settings? Have you been able to use FTX for that matter?

Use a static IP from VPN service then no one can find that you are using a proxy network unless the network provider reveals it to the Binance security system. If you are using a free VPN with very less servers available means more people used to connect via them in the past that is why it is easier to get noticed with such apps.

Unless you allow your geolocation in your browser to expose your location (on by default in many browsers). Or your timezone of your computer may be detected.

Nah, as I said even if you do all that and if there is nothing that can track you and find anything about your real location while using one of the better paid VPN services with zero IP leak, there's still your datacenter IP that can be easily used to determine if you're using a VPN or not.

So again as I said the only way to get a real IP that could not be easily detected as VPN is to buy a residential IP from those VPN services that sell them, and still there's no guarantee if that works but that's almost as undetectable as it gets.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on March 09, 2021, 06:39:56 AM

Quote from: samdan777712 on March 08, 2021, 11:56:34 PM

Has anyone noticed that binance has gotten really good at catching vpn users? Have you had this happen to you? Do you know of better ways to avoid it with your browser and vpn settings? Have you been able to use FTX for that matter?

Use a static IP from VPN service then no one can find that you are using a proxy network unless the network provider reveals it to the Binance security system. If you are using a free VPN with very less servers available means more people used to connect via them in the past that is why it is easier to get noticed with such apps.

Unless you allow your geolocation in your browser to expose your location (on by default in many browsers). Or your timezone of your computer may be detected.

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So is it safe to say lot of us users are using binance with a vpn then?

What about us citizens who are abroad almost all the time and use binance abroad? Like imagine they are abroad in thailand or whatever country almost all year etc.

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Quote from: XZERO1 on March 23, 2021, 08:39:10 AM

I think they can be detected by some websites as well if it's important enough for them but it's very unlikely that Binance or any exchange for that matter cares that much to go to that extent to catch VPN users.

With the amount of pressure major sites accepting US residents/citizens face, solely using a residential IP address might not be enough. Maybe they're being cautious to avoid false positives for now, hence the numbers of VPN users from the US who could be using the site without problems.

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Quote from: samdan777712 on March 08, 2021, 11:56:34 PM

Has anyone noticed that binance has gotten really good at catching vpn users? Have you had this happen to you? Do you know of better ways to avoid it with your browser and vpn settings? Have you been able to use FTX for that matter?

What is the error that you're getting?, because I know many people from US that are using Binance.com(not Binance.us) with VPN for a long time without any problem.

If a website(exchange or not) wants to catch its users that are using VPN, they easily can, so it's not like other exchanges/websites that you visit can not find VPN users, but they just simply don't care about that.

How do they know whether you're using VPN or not? because you're using one of the many IPs of datacenters and not real IP from an internet service provider(ISP), so the name of the datacenter which will be shown to them will reveal the fact that you're using a VPN, but keep that in mind if your VPN does not have IP leaks they won't be able to find out your real IP that you used to get connected to the VPN.

So to avoid being detected as a VPN user you have to buy a residential static IP from one of the VPN services and it's way more expensive than a normal IP, I think they can be detected by some websites as well if it's important enough for them but it's very unlikely that Binance or any exchange for that matter cares that much to go to that extent to catch VPN users.

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Did you get this issue fixed?

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Quote from: hugeblack on March 14, 2021, 01:52:57 AM

I do not think that there is a difference between paid or free VPN, other than that the free is have a percentage of the spam spam/scam more than the paid one. many of paid VPN give you a sheared IP addresses and it is easy to be flagged as VPN, so unless your paid IP address is dedicated, there is no fundamental difference.

A dedicated IP address isn't enough, and merely sharing an IP address with another user doesn't necessarily mean either of them are behind a VPN, they can merely be behind some NAT/CG-NAT. There are VPNs making use of residential IP addresses but there are ways of detecting those, too, e.g. https://medium.com/@ValdikSS/detecting-vpn-and-its-configuration-and-proxy-users-on-the-server-side-1bcc59742413

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Quote from: stompix on March 11, 2021, 02:16:42 PM

I doubt Binance has a list and says this is a free VPN is bad, this a paid VPN is good, common, abuse can happen with all of them and probably people who are deeply involved in money laundering are not risking free VPNs that can turn out to be part of some honeypot operations. It's far more likely that users forget to open their VPNs or have the killswitch activated or they click the links directly from email before starting it and their real IP which is from a foreign country or has been used by some other user is revealed.

I do not think that there is a difference between paid or free VPN, other than that the free is have a percentage of the spam spam/scam more than the paid one. many of paid VPN give you a sheared IP addresses and it is easy to be flagged as VPN, so unless your paid IP address is dedicated, there is no fundamental difference.

They know that you are breaking them TOS, but they make a profit from every deposit/withdrawal process, so they will not ban/lock your account unless it causes them harm (legal problem or money laundering).

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Quote from: stompix on March 11, 2021, 02:16:42 PM

Guys, I don't know why you're pointing fingers at free VPNs, I actually signed up and did my KYC on Binance two weeks ago using a free VPN (by mistake, I realized that just when finished as the page stopped loading and I saw the kill switch activated. I restarted all the process with my home IP and it seems they don't give a damn, they even sent me my card free of charge, and seems like my deposit is having no trouble either.

I doubt Binance has a list and says this is a free VPN is bad, this a paid VPN is good, common, abuse can happen with all of them and probably people who are deeply involved in money laundering are not risking free VPNs that can turn out to be part of some honeypot operations. It's far more likely that users forget to open their VPNs or have the killswitch activated or they click the links directly from email before starting it and their real IP which is from a foreign country or has been used by some other user is revealed.

Paid VPN or not, at their scale it doesn't matter, if they wanted to ban you they probably already would have done it. I bet they mainly care about people using their sites from jurisdictions they don't want to be doing business with, e.g. USA and UN-sanctioned countries.

Possible related: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-12/crypto-exchange-binance-investigated-by-u-s-over-who-s-trading

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OP, are you from the US and us citizen?

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I dont have any problems on using up VPN but of course a paid one.Dont know if its real about the issues would be thrown off with free Vpn's just like on what this guy mentioned about ^ which is very plausible and i do actually have the same feeling regarding on this one.

Quote from: mk4 on March 10, 2021, 11:33:54 AM

Unless you made a deposit with a debit/card card with a US address, then how would they really know that you're from the US if you're using a non-US IP VPN?

Exactly on the thing i do have in mind.

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Guys, I don't know why you're pointing fingers at free VPNs, I actually signed up and did my KYC on Binance two weeks ago using a free VPN (by mistake, I realized that just when finished as the page stopped loading and I saw the kill switch activated. I restarted all the process with my home IP and it seems they don't give a damn, they even sent me my card free of charge, and seems like my deposit is having no trouble either.

I doubt Binance has a list and says this is a free VPN is bad, this a paid VPN is good, common, abuse can happen with all of them and probably people who are deeply involved in money laundering are not risking free VPNs that can turn out to be part of some honeypot operations. It's far more likely that users forget to open their VPNs or have the killswitch activated or they click the links directly from email before starting it and their real IP which is from a foreign country or has been used by some other user is revealed.

Rather than the IP, I would blame their coin tracking mechanism for this, it's unclear if they have something against VPN but we know from the wasabi wallet incident that they do actively track where your coins come from and where you withdraw.

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Quote from: mk4 on March 10, 2021, 11:33:54 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the dude is just bluffing. Unless you made a deposit with a debit/card card with a US address, then how would they really know that you're from the US if you're using a non-US IP VPN?

I've been using Binance for a very long time as well, and I never had any issues nor do I know which methods they are using but apparently this is a thing now, and it's being done to a lot of people. I've seen an endless amount of topics (unsolved ones) in /r/Binance.

See here: https://www.reddit.com/search/?q=Risk%20control

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Quote from: samdan777712 on March 09, 2021, 11:05:41 AM

cz said on twitter in januuary that they are using new methods besides vpn to catch people from restricted areas. many reports of peoples vpn not working.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the dude is just bluffing. Unless you made a deposit with a debit/card card with a US address, then how would they really know that you're from the US if you're using a non-US IP VPN?

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I have been using Binance with a VPN for 2 Years and I have not encountered any problems, but I can summarize the reasons for your problem as follows:

- you are using a free VPN, which may be prohibited by the platform.
- Connecting from US VPN address.

To avoid problems, try the following:

- Purchase a dedicated VPN address.
- Avoid contacting VPN addresses from the United States.
- Try to use the same country every time.
- remove cookies and edit your local time.

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Quote from: samdan777712 on March 09, 2021, 11:05:41 AM

cz said on twitter in januuary that they are using new methods besides vpn to catch people from restricted areas. many reports of peoples vpn not working.

Which means it is not about vpn, it is about people residing in restricted countries, I too at times but not often uses vpn, and if I use, there is nothing that happens, binance already know me to be from a particular country which will only make them understand that I used it for privacy.

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Quote from: Yogee on March 09, 2021, 10:23:51 AM

Quote from: crwth on March 09, 2021, 10:07:35 AM

....Are you residing in a place in which it's not allowed? It can be that case as well.

This is actually what I was thinking. The question "Has anyone noticed that binance has gotten really good at catching vpn users?" was also quite suspicious. I can assume samdan777712 isn't a noob when it comes to using VPN and can definitely pay for that. He's probably done this many times to bypass Binance security.

After elaborating on that. I believe that this could be the reason for his inability to connect again. I'm not sure what he could do with that but only utilize a crypto exchange in which they are allowed to in their place. That's the best solution but no Binance, apparently.

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Quote from: samdan777712 on March 09, 2021, 11:05:41 AM

cz said on twitter in januuary that they are using new methods besides vpn to catch people from restricted areas. many reports of peoples vpn not working.

Throughout 2021 I could not smoothly access the Binance exchange even when I was using the TOR browser. I have an active trading account there even though I haven't used it in the last few months. But for now I think changing the domain ".com" to ".cc" will work fine and smoothly. Beside you can use a VPN, then try using the url below, hope it helps.

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https://www.binance.cc/en

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