Topic: It costs less to mine gold than it does to mine Bitcoin - page 3. (Read 768 times)

Mining Gold requires a lot Human resource and energy. Mining Bitcoin only requires energy. Both emit a lot of Green House gases and Gold mining destroys the natural habitat.

An Individual can mine Bitcoin and make a decent living, where as Gold mining requires a lot of Human resource.

So, why compare it when you know both are different.

Do you really believe that? There are so many fake news out there that we need to start by thinking a bit just before believing it...
How could mining gold have less cost than mining bitcoin?
Gold can be mined in several ways, and on the easiest, they dig massive holes, and wash all the dirt to separate it from gold... if we take into account the landscaping, fuel and electrical consumption, massive machinery, manpower, etc.... is it possible that this is less expensive than setting up a few ASICs?
And how about the blasts? or the places where gold is embedded in other rocks and they use deadly chemicals to extract it (mercury if I am not mistaken) - ending up in water flows?
Which methods and examples are being used to consider the 1$ gold production cost?

So, let's say that these guys are only speaking about energy cost, and I will say only 3 things:
- energy cost to produce $1 worth of BTC - is this considering prices in December 2017, or August 2018, or when?
- how may large mining facilities run on renewable energy? how many small mining facilities run on renewable energy? I don't have the direct answer to this, but checking the renewable energy developments in some countries and the constinued rise of hashrates, we can get some clues...
- energy cost on gold extraction is by far the lesser problem... and on BTC is the ONLY problem

So, how many gold mining facilities, or production plants run on renewable energy?

Washington's attempts to force regime changes, and to promote global eugenics by spreading disease and poisons, causes far more environmental and social destruction. Leave Bitcoin alone, and get rid of the deep state.

There is some truth to all of this though. We need to combat pollution and reduce energy usage wherever possible. Energy efficiency is the top priority here.

- The factories around the world(Especially 3rd world countries) need to utilize energy efficient methods and a law needs to be imposed in this aspect.
- All current gen ASIC miners need to be replaced with energy efficient ASICs in the future etc.

They are pointing out Bitcoin, but how about aluminum?

They are saying that mining Bitcoin is another reason that will start global warming but not all of the miners are using these source of energy, there are also miners that use solar energy. Bitcoin has 19 MJ while Aluminum has 122, with a lot of aluminum in this world, mixing them would be a great energy consumption and people will still blame people for mining Bitcoin?

If you'll do illegal mining, ofcourse yes it's gonna cost you less than bitcoin mining but if you'll do a legal gold mining and follow all the rules and regulation and apply to respective government agencies and follow safety hush hush then believe me you will absolutely know why gold is very expensive. I know coz I do researched on Gold mining here in the Philippines .
As for Bitcoin mining, well I think it depend on what country you're in and cost of electricity on that country and ofcourse there's already solar energy so you have option.

Chiefly for the fact that Bitcoin uses a lot of electricity to mine, leading to suggestions that mining the cryptocurrency alone could have a significant impact on global warming.

  Then what would you say to the damage directly done to the environment because of gold mining. Bitcoin mining can utilize natural energy (hydro, wind, solar energy)to solve or lessen this problem.

Here in our country people are against gold mining due to the damage it does to forests and mountains which had caused flash flloods and land slide which had put people on danger.

I don't think this is a problem. Just bitcoin mining will continue to engage those to whom it will be cost effective. If you use solar panels or modern windmills, that is, renewable energy sources, the high energy costs will not be a problem and at the cost of production, gold mining will again be much more expensive than mining Bitcoin.

The efficiency of  Bitcoin mining is absolutely under control of companies that facilitate miners (bitmain for example). Miners really consumpt lot of electricity, but you can't change anything in it. Maybe proff of stake will be the solution:)

As you know, gold is in risk of running  out of . It is difficult for us to mine gold because we should have modern system , and labor can be in danger if they want to get it.

I don't think that theory makes any sense. Think about how bitcoin mining can be inefficient and harmful more than mining, gold, oil and natural gas. People have been pumping out of the earth for years all that has accumulated in it for thousands of years and all this for their own good. Most of the resources are spent on food, although more than half of the products are simply thrown into the trash.
Electricity production today can be much more efficient than it is now and therefore bitcoin mining can be safe.
All you have to do is switch to alternative energies such as biofuels, wind energy and solar energy. It is necessary to introduce these types of energy and restore the earth's balance only so we can help our planet. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will be mined by solar energy and nuclear energy-let's go for it together

if you zoom in bitcoin price chart so much that you are seeing seconds, it can seem like price is shooting up whereas it really is stable!
I say this example because I wanted to say that this comparison is flawed because that is similar to zooming in and not seeing the bigger picture.

the question is not how much it costs to mine $1 worth of gold. the question is how much energy is used to mine gold! lets do a quick calculation.
last year 2500 ton of gold was mined. that is 219,178 ounce per day or 269,786,301 dollar per day. so you are not mining $1 gold per day to spend energy for $1. you are spending energy for $270 million gold per day.
how much bitcoin is being mined per day? that is about $11 million or in other words there is the gold being mined is 24x more and based on that chart it is equal to 6.5 times more energy

That's a true statement to say mining of gold cost less than bitcoin mining when considering the energy cost. Read online from a reliable source that recent research has proven that it cause twice or even more as much energy to mine $1 worth of bitcoin than gold (other precious metals).   but that research was based only on energy cost, just as the user above me stated So this is clearly a matter of choice to choose between (energy cost or bigger environmental damage) for now because I believe in the near future new means will be introduced to tackle this energy cost issue. A technology can't be perfect, it take process for progress to occur and bitcoin is currently undergoing that process and it will come out stronger.

One thing that they clearly haven't taken into account, is the fact that gold mining causes environmental damage on many other levels as well.
You shouldn't just look at carbon emissions, but also at other forms of pollution caused by gold mining.

In most of the western world, there are pretty strict regulations on how you can mine for gold, but that isn't the case in most of the third world.
There they still use mercury to recover gold, which heavily pollutes the soil.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5129257/ (Heavy Metal Pollution from Gold Mines: Environmental Effects and Bacterial Strategies for Resistance)

Carbon emissions due to high power consumption is something that should be tackled from the root of the problem. Switch over to greener forms of energy production.
IMO we should really have another look at nuclear energy, since it's currently the most cost effective, safest and cleanest form of energy available.

Sources: https://www.zdnet.com/article/nuclear-less-co2-than-solar-hydro-biomass/
https://www.iaea.org/sites/default/files/publications/magazines/bulletin/bull21-1/21104091117.pdf (Is Solar Power More Dangerous Than Nuclear?)

So...what now? Bitcoin mining was never designed to be efficient. It's more secure the more inefficient it is, even. Things are working as intended.

If people are trying to say that it's a waste because you don't even gain gold at the end of it (this was implied within the article), then that's a completely subjective argument. Even most pollution concerns are grounded on predicted mining growth, not the current mining situation. People are making it into a bigger issue than it actually is.

And what does that have to do with bitcoin mining exactly? It might appear that bitcoin mining is far costlier, but is mining gold safer and friendlier to the environment? I don't think so. There had been many deaths and environmental degradation linked to mining gold than mining bitcoin, and it's just not about the cost to mine that matters IMO.


Greenhouse gases emissions are have been around ever since the first Industrial Revolution started, and it's not as if bitcoin mining would be the sole contributor to these emissions. There are tons of industries that emit more harmful chemicals and gases in the air than ASICs using electricity to mine bitcoins and giving off heat. Instead of focusing on lowering the amount of electricity an industry uses, why not focus on generating cleaner energy that's sustainable for the future?

It costs less to mine gold than it does to mine Bitcoin

The inefficiency of mining Bitcoin laid bare… Over the past few weeks, the criticism aimed at Bitcoin mining has grown. Chiefly for the fact that Bitcoin uses a lot of electricity to mine

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