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Topic: It is illegal to spend bitcoins in China - page 2. (Read 4476 times)

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China already banned Q-Coin, product of the chinese company Tencent QQ, because people started trading it for the real-world goods and it became a possible threat to chinese yuan.

QQ coins are still very much alive and well - it is simply that they can't be exchanged for RMB but instead only for the purchase of goods and/or services (basically this was to stop one company from effectively being able to create inflation by arbitrarily printing its own "money" which if course is not really the same situation with Bitcoins).

Also what is *legal* is not the same as what is *enforced* and in fact what is *common practice*.


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The official Xinhua News Agency reported in November 2006 that the Chinese central bank may begin supervision of virtual currencies as they could affect the value of the yuan. The People’s Bank of China would put Q-coins issued by Tencent Holdings Ltd. under its oversight if they entered wider circulation, Xinhua reported at the time.

Virtual currency may only be used to buy online game items, the Ministry of Culture said in today’s statement. Game operators must provide the ministry with information about their virtual currencies, according to the statement.

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Having seen the increase of illegal currency trade and its impact on the economy, the Chinese government banned Q-coins for purchasing real goods and services in 2009.

So only Tencent QQ goods and services could be purchased with Q-Coin.
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
China already banned Q-Coin, product of the chinese company Tencent QQ, because people started trading it for the real-world goods and it became a possible threat to chinese yuan.

QQ coins are still very much alive and well - it is simply that they can't be exchanged for RMB but instead only for the purchase of goods and/or services (basically this was to stop one company from effectively being able to create inflation by arbitrarily printing its own "money" which if course is not really the same situation with Bitcoins).

Also what is *legal* is not the same as what is *enforced* and in fact what is *common practice*.
legendary
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Nah, no one cares about that. Seriously, game gold mining is an extremely profitable and public job in China. It's a defunct or dead law.

The link clearly states that gold farming is allowed. It's a 9 digit export industry, it would be foolish to ban fat western geeks from paying money to the chinese game farmers. What it's forbidden is using the virtual currency as real money outside the specific context it was intended for, like game items or voip minutes.

That means mining Bitcoin is not illegal; exchanging to and from real cash and owning bitcoins are also legal. There are no "in game" purchases for bitcoin, the whole point is real world use as a replacement currency and that it's specifically banned in China. So chinese can only speculate, not use bitcoin for purchasing anything directly. Bussines as usual for bitcoin, China is a huge growth market (/jk).
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Oh no no, but it aired on a government censored network. Herp. That means they gave bitcoin the go ahead because they want to destabilize the United States. Derp.
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China already banned Q-Coin, product of the chinese company Tencent QQ, because people started trading it for the real-world goods and it became a possible threat to chinese yuan.
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If China decided bitcoin is a problem they could decide to enforce this once more.

What does it mean "If China decides"? Do you think that whole CCTV issue was just another version of the "Hundred Flowers Campaign"?

Not really, just making sure we are saying what we mean to be saying and playing Devil's advocate.
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http://www.informationweek.com/internet/ebusiness/china-limits-use-of-virtual-currency/218101859

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"The virtual currency, which is converted into real money at a certain exchange rate, will only be allowed to trade in virtual goods and services provided by its issuer, not real goods and services," the Ministries said.

I wonder why they failed to mention that in the documentary.

Elwar you turned BEAR? noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
anu
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If China decided bitcoin is a problem they could decide to enforce this once more.

What does it mean "If China decides"? Do you think that whole CCTV issue was just another version of the "Hundred Flowers Campaign"?
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http://www.informationweek.com/internet/ebusiness/china-limits-use-of-virtual-currency/218101859

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"The virtual currency, which is converted into real money at a certain exchange rate, will only be allowed to trade in virtual goods and services provided by its issuer, not real goods and services," the Ministries said.

I wonder why they failed to mention that in the documentary.
Nah, no one cares about that. Seriously, game gold mining is an extremely profitable and public job in China. It's a defunct or dead law.

Laws do not expire unless they are overturned, they only stop being enforced at the discretion of the authorities. If China decided bitcoin is a problem they could decide to enforce this once more. Just trying to cover all the angles.
legendary
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Away on an extended break
http://www.informationweek.com/internet/ebusiness/china-limits-use-of-virtual-currency/218101859

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"The virtual currency, which is converted into real money at a certain exchange rate, will only be allowed to trade in virtual goods and services provided by its issuer, not real goods and services," the Ministries said.

I wonder why they failed to mention that in the documentary.
Nah, no one cares about that. Seriously, game gold mining is an extremely profitable and public job in China. It's a defunct or dead law.
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
http://www.informationweek.com/internet/ebusiness/china-limits-use-of-virtual-currency/218101859

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"The virtual currency, which is converted into real money at a certain exchange rate, will only be allowed to trade in virtual goods and services provided by its issuer, not real goods and services," the Ministries said.

I wonder why they failed to mention that in the documentary.
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