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Quote from: hahay on December 22, 2023, 02:27:43 PM

After two matches without a win, then in this match Lazio managed to beat Empoli even with a clean sheet . But ya, even though Laizo managed to win, it looks like Lazio only relied on counter attacks. Because after all, according to the statistics in this match, in reality Empoli still has quite good statistics but unfortunately, Empoli did not manage to score a goal.

So yes, Empoli's defeat this time will of course keep Empoli in the relegation zone, but even so, Empoli still has a points gap that is not too far from the teams above them. Also, even though Lazio looks like they won easily in this match, but I personally not too impressed because ya, basically Lazio this season is not as good as last season because last season Lazio managed to finish in second place.

That counter attacking football to the first goal was damn beautiful, iv seen that goal for more than three times now this evening. You could see how selfish the player was to set up his mate for that goal. Even the fans was happy to see that goal. Genoa tried to fight back to score but it wasn't a easy task. Genoa players kept the Sassuolo keeper quite occupied and busy.
Genoa pressured hard to score goals regardless but Sassuolo held the first half until the whistle was blown.

I still don't think that the penalty given wasn't well rewarded or awarded. But that was a good spot kick taking decisions to level things up. Some defenders and defending errors though tonight led to Genoa winning the game.
It was good and lovely to see them celebrating with the fans.

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Ended 2-2.

2 more points lost from Milan, and now they will have almost an impossible task to catch up Inter.

It is December but Inter almost already won the title at this point.

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1-1 so far between Milan and Salernitana!

And Maignan saved a goal too...

The game has just finished by a 2-2 draw. It is really unbelievable that Milan lost two points in the easiest game in their fixture. Salernitana even got ahead by 2-1 and could have really won the game as well. Jovic's goal was a life saver for Milan there in the 90th minute. I don't know how Milan couldn't beat even the last team in the standings. Huh

They aren't competitive for the league title this season that's for sure. Juventus and Inter will get away from them more by this week probably. The title competition is very likely to be only between these two teams considering the performances of other teams below.

AC Milan threw away 3 points in today match because they couldn't beat the bottom team in the standings. There is nothing interesting with AC Milan this season, they are not too focused on what they are aiming for in Serie A. They lost full points in today match due to their unstable play after leading 1-0. I think AC Milan is not a team that is competing for the Scudetto this season.

Salernitana was able to play better than Ac Milan. Salernitana even put AC Milan behind after successfully coming back with goals scored by Fazio and Candreva, but in the final minutes, AC Milan managed to score another goal which made this match end in a draw. good results for Salernitana but not the results that AC Milan wants.

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1-1 so far between Milan and Salernitana!

And Maignan saved a goal too...

The match is very tough because Milan almost lose the match because they conceded a second goal before Olivier Giroud score the equalizer for Milan in 90 plus minutes. Milan performance is not as consistent as Inter Milan and Juventus that is why they are nine points behind Inter Milan. they are also not playing as a team that is competing for the Seria A title because they are not reliable anymore since they couldn't make it to the Champions League round of 16, and today again they almost lost to bottom table team that has won just one match so far since the beginning of the 2023/24 Seria A campaign; they need to improve in order to challenge for the title.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 22, 2023, 03:40:31 PM

1-1 so far between Milan and Salernitana!

And Maignan saved a goal too...

The game has just finished by a 2-2 draw. It is really unbelievable that Milan lost two points in the easiest game in their fixture. Salernitana even got ahead by 2-1 and could have really won the game as well. Jovic's goal was a life saver for Milan there in the 90th minute. I don't know how Milan couldn't beat even the last team in the standings. Huh

They aren't competitive for the league title this season that's for sure. Juventus and Inter will get away from them more by this week probably. The title competition is very likely to be only between these two teams considering the performances of other teams below.

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Although there are some matches that Mazzari has let slip away without full points at the moment I still wouldn't say he is a failure even though this possibility is quite large because after all when looking at the situation now Mazzari will actually still be considered a form of adaptation for him and indeed this is not going too well.

But what is certain now regardless of whatever happens is that Mazzari will still be behind Napoli's coaching at least until the end of the season because honestly I doubt if Napoli will change their coach again even though they failed because after all it is not too ethical to see a change of coach done very quickly for a big club like Napoli especially this also refers to their finances of course.

Mazzarri might be facing challenges, but labeling him as a failure prematurely indeed overlooks the complexities of such transitions, because adapting to a new team and league is a process that takes time. The Serie A is known for its tactical intricacies where where a team will fall short if the team play the quite same tactics every season. The Manager often needs time to implement their strategies and get the best out of their players.

A club need stability and continuity to regain their peak form. Tjis is why changing a coach mid-season, especially for a club of Napoli's stature, is not a good idea. Frequent coaching changes can disrupt the team's rhythm and hinder long-term planning. It's not just about the results of a few matches, but it's about building a foundation for sustained success. management's change is also a rapid changes in coaching staff that can lead to financial strain, not only in terms of paying off existing contracts but also in securing new coaching talent. Clubs must balance the desire for immediate success with the need for a stable and ethical approach to managing their resources.

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Quote from: budi691 on December 22, 2023, 09:52:11 AM

Yes, it must be admitted, even though Milan and Napoli are quite far behind Inter and Juventus, that doesn't mean they can't catch up or overcome their unstable performance, but Milan and Napoli have quality players who are able to face challenges. and develop. their performance. Apart from that, in Italian football the competition is always tight and the results of the matches cannot always be predicted with certainty, but what is certain is that I want to see the competition between these 4 teams until the last match in the league to determine who will be the team. champion.
However, it cannot be denied that Inter and Juventus have a strong position as candidates to win the title, but in the world of football, anything can happen.
and Frosinone's positive result against Napoli may give them confidence, but Juventus have a different history and quality. This match is still interesting to follow and anyone can win.

The Italian league seems to get tougher and teams are rapidly growing into high worth, quality and class. The growth is evident and enviable too. This makes for the widespread fun in the league race too. It's not so easy to predict the outcome of the games too. Juventus are good, so is Milan, Napoli and even Frosinone too. But among the above stated team Frosinone is the least of them all.

Inter Milan too are in good form and these teams are lasting threats. The race for the trophy is tough and all teams are determined and unwavering at their goal. The strongest teams of the league are Juventus and Inter and the odds for the trophy for these teams are very very much alike. Inter are faced with the European contest and for Juventus, they've still got extra time to prepare ahead for the league games.

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Quote from: hahay on December 22, 2023, 02:27:43 PM

After two matches without a win, then in this match Lazio managed to beat Empoli even with a clean sheet . But ya, even though Laizo managed to win, it looks like Lazio only relied on counter attacks. Because after all, according to the statistics in this match, in reality Empoli still has quite good statistics but unfortunately, Empoli did not manage to score a goal.

So yes, Empoli's defeat this time will of course keep Empoli in the relegation zone, but even so, Empoli still has a points gap that is not too far from the teams above them. Also, even though Lazio looks like they won easily in this match, but I personally not too impressed because ya, basically Lazio this season is not as good as last season because last season Lazio managed to finish in second place.

Lazio's game plan is more counter-attacking intensive

It means Maurizio trusts this game more. I was not impressed with the goals scored because there was a bit of force in the goals. Empoli's defense could not clear it. How many times did the ball return from the goalkeeper or the defender?

If you cannot clear the ball more than necessary in the dangerous area, eventually a goal will be scored and that is how Lazio scored their goals. A new page after two defeats, let's see if they can continue this page, it seems a little difficult with the game they are playing.

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Talking about doubts actually in this case I saw from the beginning when Spalleti left that many doubted Napoli because they would experience a transition and it did happen and after a few games done at the beginning of the season towards the middle of the season now it continues and surely the doubts continue to grow as time goes by.

Yeah, because this doubt is quite basic. how we see Napoli's condition this season, how they failed with the first coach who replaced Spalletti, and how they also failed several times even when there was a new coach, Mazzarri. This time it will be very difficult for Napoli to win the Schudetto title again. This seems impossible...

Although there are some matches that Mazzari has let slip away without full points at the moment I still wouldn't say he is a failure even though this possibility is quite large because after all when looking at the situation now Mazzari will actually still be considered a form of adaptation for him and indeed this is not going too well.

But what is certain now regardless of whatever happens is that Mazzari will still be behind Napoli's coaching at least until the end of the season because honestly I doubt if Napoli will change their coach again even though they failed because after all it is not too ethical to see a change of coach done very quickly for a big club like Napoli especially this also refers to their finances of course.

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Quote from: bitcampaign on December 22, 2023, 12:13:36 PM

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But about Napoli, if Napoli manage to stay in the top four of course, that result is good enough because yes, just to stay in the top four is a difficult job for Napoli this season. Therefore, if Napoli are able to finish in the top four this season for me it is already a good result, because of course it is difficult for Napoli to defend the title.

It seems that it is difficult for Napoli to defend their title so it is possible that this season they will fail to win the title again and let Juventus and Inter Milan fight for the title this season, Napoli must be able to correct all the mistakes that have been made in several matches with bad results and it's not satisfying for their fans, changing several coaches still doesn't make any better changes, I think Napoli should be able to focus on maintaining their position in the top four, it seems that is their last hope apart from winning the league this season

Title defence is one of the most tedious task in football nowadays and Napoli's case is not exception, and am not surprised seeing them struggle the way they are doing this season but I expect to see them finish at the top four in the table log so they can have a place in the champions league, at least they deserve that even if there was a change in the coaching crew which i think is responsible for their recent decline but i think they will be fine as soon as because such is expected whenever a new coaching crew comes on board in any team, but as for the title race, count napoli out, they are not anywhere near that circle this season.

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Quote from: hahay on December 22, 2023, 02:27:43 PM

After two matches without a win, then in this match Lazio managed to beat Empoli even with a clean sheet . But ya, even though Laizo managed to win, it looks like Lazio only relied on counter attacks. Because after all, according to the statistics in this match, in reality Empoli still has quite good statistics but unfortunately, Empoli did not manage to score a goal.

So yes, Empoli's defeat this time will of course keep Empoli in the relegation zone, but even so, Empoli still has a points gap that is not too far from the teams above them. Also, even though Lazio looks like they won easily in this match, but I personally not too impressed because ya, basically Lazio this season is not as good as last season because last season Lazio managed to finish in second place.

For Lazio it was a clean win, but Empoli had more attacks than Lazio and more ball possession. I know that Lazio has never really put emphasis on having the ball a lot within their team, but it is still an indicator that Lazio is missing a lot of the good things they were usually known for. The efficiency was good in this game and the defense seems to have been good as well, but it might also have been the weakness of Empoli to not make use of any of their attempts. But Lazio is still far away from the upper part of the table.

AC Milan has to win this game or otherwise Fiorentina and Bologna will soon say hello to them. By the way, did anyone notice the positive trend for Bologna? I was surprised when I saw them so far up in the table and I only checked for them because they beat Inter Milan recently.

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1-1 so far between Milan and Salernitana!

And Maignan saved a goal too...

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There never was an intention to get kicked out of the Coppa Italia competition as some people here argue because this cup can't be compared to the league cup in England, where they actually have like three cups or so? The Coppa Italia is the main Italian cup and no team would ever try to lose on purpose in order to be able to focus more on other competitions, that's bullshit. A team like Napoli, a Champions League contender, plans to get kicked out of the Coppa Italia... No, really never.

Of course not, but I share the opinion that this game was approached in a very weird way by Walter Mazzari. I don't know if this was incompetence by him or underestimation at its best, but how can a team like Napoli underestimate another team from Serie A. It is not like they played against a team from the Serie B or worse than that when it happens that the far superior favorite underestimates how hard it can be to beat those teams. Take Bayern as an example when they played against a 3. Bundesliga team and lost, but nobody would ever say that was on purpose. If that were true, the coach would get sacked immediately.

I'm still having trouble understanding Napoli's 4-0 loss against Frosinone. For every Napoli supporter, this is a bitter pill to swallow. I think Mazzarri took the wrong approach, but let's also consider the consequences of Spalletti's exit. The team is obviously still getting used to this adjustment, imo. Undoubtedly, a coach has a big impact, but it's not the only factor. Though it may not have worked out this time, I think Mazzarri is still learning from his mistakes in resting important players in pivotal games. I have a cautious sense of optimism over the UEFA Champions League. Despite their talent, they will need to play consistently and with great strategy if they want to go past the quarterfinals.

@slapper nothing about Napoli surprises me anymore because of their gross mismanagement they’re facing such loses and unless they own up their mistakes and make sincere efforts to rectify it they won’t really achieve any goals that they may have set out for this season. Furthermore with the January transfer window almost here if Victor departs then their season will only get worst hence they should do their best and convince him to stay at least till the end of this current season.

Good point and I fully agree with you because the current situation of Napoli is far from the situation in which they can even think about winning the title of Serie A as they won in the last season and I think the only thing they can do is to try giving their new coach Walter Mazzari some more time to make the team in the more stable situation and hope for them to get a better place in the table.
After Luciano Spalletti left the team during the summer they could never be in good form anymore.

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After two matches without a win, then in this match Lazio managed to beat Empoli even with a clean sheet . But ya, even though Laizo managed to win, it looks like Lazio only relied on counter attacks. Because after all, according to the statistics in this match, in reality Empoli still has quite good statistics but unfortunately, Empoli did not manage to score a goal.

So yes, Empoli's defeat this time will of course keep Empoli in the relegation zone, but even so, Empoli still has a points gap that is not too far from the teams above them. Also, even though Lazio looks like they won easily in this match, but I personally not too impressed because ya, basically Lazio this season is not as good as last season because last season Lazio managed to finish in second place.

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It seems that it is difficult for Napoli to defend their title so it is possible that this season they will fail to win the title again and let Juventus and Inter Milan fight for the title this season, Napoli must be able to correct all the mistakes that have been made in several matches with bad results and it's not satisfying for their fans, changing several coaches still doesn't make any better changes, I think Napoli should be able to focus on maintaining their position in the top four, it seems that is their last hope apart from winning the league this season

Since Luciano Spalletti decided to leave Napoli, I no longer believe in how good Napoli's competition in Serie A will be in defending its title. Napoli are having difficulty maintaining their good performance like last season and they feel forced to change coaches twice this season by firing Rudi Garcia and appointing Walter Mazzarri as head coach.

Currently, Napoli is struggling in 5th position with the same points as Fiorentina. Napoli is having difficulty breaking into the Champions League zone because the stability of their performance is the most obvious problem at the moment, of course because they tend to lose more points. Until week 16, Napoli had suffered 5 defeats and 3 draws in 16 matches. So in my opinion, Napoli will not defend their title and will probably just struggle to qualify for the Champions League next season.

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But about Napoli, if Napoli manage to stay in the top four of course, that result is good enough because yes, just to stay in the top four is a difficult job for Napoli this season. Therefore, if Napoli are able to finish in the top four this season for me it is already a good result, because of course it is difficult for Napoli to defend the title.

It seems that it is difficult for Napoli to defend their title so it is possible that this season they will fail to win the title again and let Juventus and Inter Milan fight for the title this season, Napoli must be able to correct all the mistakes that have been made in several matches with bad results and it's not satisfying for their fans, changing several coaches still doesn't make any better changes, I think Napoli should be able to focus on maintaining their position in the top four, it seems that is their last hope apart from winning the league this season

Napoli have been eliminated in the Copa Italia, while in Serie A they are also having difficulty retaining the trophy, especially when talking about Osimhen and his colleagues chances in the European Champions League competition. At this time the situation is leading to decline, the change of coach has not shown a significant impact in creating consistency, it takes some time to adapt, but it cannot change the fact that the dismissal of Garcia is no better for changing the club's future fate. Mazzarri is an experienced coach, but in my opinion he is not the right person for Napoli.

Previously I thought that if Garcia was fired, Napoli management would appoint Conte as the new manager, but unexpectedly they appointed Mazzarri for the second time. Of course they have to do something immediately, I mean increase the intensity of the game and create consistency so they can stay in the top four of the standings. However, regarding trophies, it is very likely that Napoli will be fasting for a title this season. Moreover, if they release Osimhen to join another club in the january transfer window, Napoli could lose balance and it will most likely be difficult to finish in the four UCL zones.

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To be perfectly honest with you, Mazzari seems like a better manager than the guy who was the manager at the start. For some reason Italian managers do a lot better at Italy than managers from other nations. This isn't always true everywhere, like you do not have to be a French person to win something at ligue 1, or Spanish to win at la liga, look at ancelotti and real, look at pep and city, it is not really a must in other leagues.

But for some reason if you are Italian, you do end up being a little bit better, or have some edge over other managers at serie a. Mazzeri looks like someone who could do well enough, I am not saying Napoli will win anything, it is too late for them, but it looks like he could actually do some decent recovery for this team.

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Napoli will find it difficult to enter the ranks of teams competing for the Scudetto this season because Napoli are already 14 points behind Inter Milan. We are like we were in last season where last season Napoli led the standing by far ahead of the second ranked team and that is the comparison that has happened to Napoli this season. There is no hope for Napoli to win the Scudetto this season, they are only focused on being in the top 4 because of their decline in performance which means they are not strong enough to compete for the title.

This season the Scudetto will belong to Inter Milan or Juventus because they are more ambitious to get it. Inter Milan performance this season cannot be stopped by any team, they are very strong and this season they have a greater chance of winning the Scudetto. Inter milan has Martinez and Thuram who have performed quite impressively compared to the stickers of other teams in this season.

In all sincerity and honesty I believe that Napoli have abandoned their ideas and dreams of the Scudetto, now they must concentrate on staying in the cup zone and this result is already very difficult to achieve, but I believe that in the end, thanks to the very good Mazzarri, we it will definitely succeed.
This is my opinion of course

Although Juventus are still in second place in the current Serie A standings but yes, I believe Juventus do not have a good chance of getting the Scudetto this season. Therefore, of course I am more confident that Inter have a better chance of getting the Scudetto . Because yes, at least Inter still have better consistency than Juventus and thus, then I do not hesitate to say that Inter remain the best this season.

But about Napoli, if Napoli manage to stay in the top four of course, that result is good enough because yes, just to stay in the top four is a difficult job for Napoli this season. Therefore, if Napoli are able to finish in the top four this season for me it is already a good result, because of course it is difficult for Napoli to defend the title.

I definitely agree with you. The best Napoli can achieve this season is top 4 and secure themselves a Champions League spot for next year. I don't see them winning the Uefa Champions League and they are out of the Copa Italia after their huge loss against Frosinone 4-0.

Napoli has not been able to do what they achieved last season. Last season they dominated the Serie A and won the Scudetto. This season Inter Milan are the likely winner of Serie A. They are 4 points ahead of Juventus and I don't think Juventus can achieve them. Juventus has definitely developed a lot in the past few seasons.

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There is a possibility that Napoli will enter the fourth position in the Italy Serie A table if they can get a draw match from Roma because Bologna's match against Atalanta will be a tough one, and it can end in a draw match or Atalanta wins against Bologna. Napoli can challenge for the Serie A title if they are with Osimhen till the end of the season.

For this season, it looks like Napoli will no longer be a title contender in Serie A, even though they can try to get into the top four zone of the Serie A standings. A distance of one point from Bologna is not difficult for Napoli to surpass if Bologna can lose at home when they face Atalanta, but I don't think Bologna will be that weak when playing at home. Apart from that, Napoli also have to be able to beat Roma at the Stadio Olimpico, Rome, which is also not an easy thing for Napoli.

There is no longer any need to include Napoli as a challenger for champions this season because they have failed and will not be able to defend last season's title, and we often see teams that become champions other than Juventus, AC Milan or Inter Milan will always experience difficulties in defending the title and usually will it takes a long time to become champions again, maybe there is a mismanagement with teams like that so they can only occasionally win and make the fans happy because they can see other teams besides the three I mentioned above can become champions but then these three teams will again take turns becoming Serie A champions.
Napoli against Roma has a big chance of winning, especially in their last seven meetings. Roma always failed to get full points even though they are the home team, maybe H2H is not the right reference for analyzing the match later, but of the two teams, Napoli is better when facing tight matches. only they are often careless when facing weak teams which makes them far behind Inter and Juventus.

This is football and anything is possible. Napoli still has the chance to contest for the Series A title this season if they can keep winning their matches. But for now, the series A title race is between Inter Milan, Juventus, and AC Milan.

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Quote from: hahay on December 22, 2023, 11:58:50 AM

But about Napoli, if Napoli manage to stay in the top four of course, that result is good enough because yes, just to stay in the top four is a difficult job for Napoli this season. Therefore, if Napoli are able to finish in the top four this season for me it is already a good result, because of course it is difficult for Napoli to defend the title.

It seems that it is difficult for Napoli to defend their title so it is possible that this season they will fail to win the title again and let Juventus and Inter Milan fight for the title this season, Napoli must be able to correct all the mistakes that have been made in several matches with bad results and it's not satisfying for their fans, changing several coaches still doesn't make any better changes, I think Napoli should be able to focus on maintaining their position in the top four, it seems that is their last hope apart from winning the league this season

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