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Quote from: HajiBagi on April 25, 2023, 02:44:13 AM

It will be very challenging for Roma to return to the top four because the same team, Ac Milan, who is in the top four, won't easily give up. Roma lost their position against Atlanta, who are still in the top seven. Roma has a chance and they can't win Atlanta just to protect their position. I believe they know Ac Milan wants to be in that position to play in the champion league next season, and they have the opportunity. It will be very challenging to let Ac Milan loose that position and allow Roma to move up.
While Roma may still have games left, that doesn't guarantee they will be able to be in the top four again. If they continue playing as they did against Atlanta, they may even mess up and fall back to the top six. Ac Milan won't make that mistake. They will undoubtedly secure the position to prevent Roma from being in that position.

To be honest, it won't be so difficult for AS Roma to shift AC Milan's position. With the same points, there are a few games left, Roma has a chance to reach 4th place. If Milan don't want to lose the UCL spot they got, they should be able to end this season with 7 consecutive wins. Or if Roma lose, Milan must get at least 1 point. Mathematically and performance, in my opinion, it is not difficult at all for Roma to be in 4th position.

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Quote from: rendravolt on April 25, 2023, 01:01:28 AM

Roma had to admit Atalanta's advantage in last night's game and the 3-1 win made Atalanta even closer to Inter in the standings. Even statistically, Rome actually controlled the game, it's just that Atalanta had a better chance by shooting on target 4 times and from that all 3 goals were created. Roma were only able to record 1 shot on target and that was the only goal scored by Rome, this result was also lacking to equalize until the end of the game. Roma couldn't maximize this match which made their position now starting to be threatened by several teams below them.

to be honest, I didn't think that Roma could not block Atalanta's shot, while Roma also had so many opportunities in last night's game. I don't know if this was intentional so that Inter could be moved by Atalanta or last night's match Roma really wasted several opportunities.
but nevertheless Atalanta's victory had several factors such as Atalanta playing at home which allowed Atalanta to beat Roma with a score of 3-1.
although losing to Roma won't be a big problem for Roma but I think it's Inter who feel threatened by their position. Inzaghi must provide evaluations for his players so that they can immediately get points to put Atalanta at a distance. the difference of 2 points is very close.

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Quote from: Bobrox on April 24, 2023, 09:33:04 PM

Loss on crucial match against Atalanta made AS Roma dropped to 5th standing and has little opportunity with Champion League spot standing, unpredictable with AS Roma underperformance against Atalanta after success winning in Europe League last several days but can continue with consistency performance in domestic league. Have seven matches left for AS Roma get back to the top fourth standing position but have match against Inter Milan seems difficult for AS Roma winning that games. Jose Mourinho have giving huge pressure for their player if want consistent back to the top fourth standing in Serie A.

It will be very challenging for Roma to return to the top four because the same team, Ac Milan, who is in the top four, won't easily give up. Roma lost their position against Atlanta, who are still in the top seven. Roma has a chance and they can't win Atlanta just to protect their position. I believe they know Ac Milan wants to be in that position to play in the champion league next season, and they have the opportunity. It will be very challenging to let Ac Milan loose that position and allow Roma to move up.
While Roma may still have games left, that doesn't guarantee they will be able to be in the top four again. If they continue playing as they did against Atlanta, they may even mess up and fall back to the top six. Ac Milan won't make that mistake. They will undoubtedly secure the position to prevent Roma from being in that position.

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Atalanta's recent win has certainly put them in the running for a place in the Champions League next season. While they may be unlikely to catch up with Juventus and Lazio, they will certainly be contending for a place in the European cups alongside Milan, Roma and Inter Milan.

This year, however, Atalanta's performance hasn't been constant so I don't think they'll be able to keep up the trend
But is hard to do, in my opinino

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Quote from: rendravolt on April 25, 2023, 01:01:28 AM

Roma had to admit Atalanta's advantage in last night's game and the 3-1 win made Atalanta even closer to Inter in the standings. Even statistically, Rome actually controlled the game, it's just that Atalanta had a better chance by shooting on target 4 times and from that all 3 goals were created. Roma were only able to record 1 shot on target and that was the only goal scored by Rome, this result was also lacking to equalize until the end of the game. Roma couldn't maximize this match which made their position now starting to be threatened by several teams below them.

After yesterday's win, Atalanta have joined the fight for a place in the Champions League next season. They will probably not catch up with Juventus and Lazio, but they will compete with Milan, Roma and Inter for a place in the European cups. I think that now Atalanta have an opportunity to fix the tournament position because they don't have many difficult matches left.

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Quote from: Josefjix on April 25, 2023, 12:39:28 AM

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Atalanta really deserved the victory from Roma, because Roma performance was very poor from the beginning of the match till the end of the match that made them to defeated Roma 3-1 to embraced the three points. I think, Roma coach need to work hard to help the team to return back to second position in the Italian league table, because their next match is going to be a tough match which they need to prepare well so that they will experience victory from the match. Roma strikers are doing well but their defense and midfield are not too strong compared from the beginning of this tournament that made them to defeated many strong teams which they can still do it in the remaining matches to improve their points.

AS Roma got defeated and it wasn't their expectations in the game, with full domination of the game. Jose Mourinho was disappointed with match results because his intended action is to win a spot in the champions league next season, mistakes from his players. They got too comfortable with the ball and forget to net a goal when they got the chances to levelled the game. Atalanta on the other hand were serious and never planned for a draw, the way they attack and defend their territory was incredible, not easily invaded by Roma.

the problem lies in the attack, at the moment Roma have no one to finalize
even if you have a lot of ball possession, sooner or later you have to score
hindsight to the first opponent counterattack, who instead takes advantage of the opportunities, take goals and lose a lot of morale

if you don't score, the others will, there's little you can do (a great coach said it)

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Quote from: uswa56 on April 25, 2023, 01:32:28 AM

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Atalanta really deserved the victory from Roma, because Roma performance was very poor from the beginning of the match till the end of the match that made them to defeated Roma 3-1 to embraced the three points. I think, Roma coach need to work hard to help the team to return back to second position in the Italian league table, because their next match is going to be a tough match which they need to prepare well so that they will experience victory from the match. Roma strikers are doing well but their defense and midfield are not too strong compared from the beginning of this tournament that made them to defeated many strong teams which they can still do it in the remaining matches to improve their points.

AS Roma got defeated and it wasn't their expectations in the game, with full domination of the game. Jose Mourinho was disappointed with match results because his intended action is to win a spot in the champions league next season, mistakes from his players. They got too comfortable with the ball and forget to net a goal when they got the chances to levelled the game. Atalanta on the other hand were serious and never planned for a draw, the way they attack and defend their territory was incredible, not easily invaded by Roma.

AS Roma played very badly in this match, their midfield didn't seem to provide a good supply of balls for the front lines so they weren't able to create many opportunities.
with this defeat making AS Roma drop to 5th in the standings even though they have the same points as AC MIlan, this will make it even more difficult for the AS Roma team to break into the top 4 in order to get a ticket to next season's UCL.

currently the competition is very fierce between AS Roma, Inter Milan and also AC Milan to fight for 4th place in the standings with only 7 matches left this season anything is still possible to happen even Juventus who are in 3rd place in the standings are still not safe because they are only superior 3 points and their performance is quite bad in the last 3 matches.

It was expected for Roma to not be able to withstand a good game yesterday night as they played on Thursday a difficult game which ended in the extra time and they qualified against Feyenoord in Europa League.They spend all the energies in that game and yesterday it was a sure bet to bet on Atalanta or Atalanta draw no bet for the skeptics.Another reason was that Atalanta needed a restart after several games playing very bad and going bad for them including some games where bad luck and referee made them lose such games.It is becoming very interesting the fight for the Champions spots in Serie A in these last games of this season.

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Quote from: Josefjix on April 25, 2023, 12:39:28 AM

Quote from: Sebas.tian on April 25, 2023, 12:15:32 AM

Atalanta really deserved the victory from Roma, because Roma performance was very poor from the beginning of the match till the end of the match that made them to defeated Roma 3-1 to embraced the three points. I think, Roma coach need to work hard to help the team to return back to second position in the Italian league table, because their next match is going to be a tough match which they need to prepare well so that they will experience victory from the match. Roma strikers are doing well but their defense and midfield are not too strong compared from the beginning of this tournament that made them to defeated many strong teams which they can still do it in the remaining matches to improve their points.

AS Roma got defeated and it wasn't their expectations in the game, with full domination of the game. Jose Mourinho was disappointed with match results because his intended action is to win a spot in the champions league next season, mistakes from his players. They got too comfortable with the ball and forget to net a goal when they got the chances to levelled the game. Atalanta on the other hand were serious and never planned for a draw, the way they attack and defend their territory was incredible, not easily invaded by Roma.

AS Roma played very badly in this match, their midfield didn't seem to provide a good supply of balls for the front lines so they weren't able to create many opportunities.
with this defeat making AS Roma drop to 5th in the standings even though they have the same points as AC MIlan, this will make it even more difficult for the AS Roma team to break into the top 4 in order to get a ticket to next season's UCL.

currently the competition is very fierce between AS Roma, Inter Milan and also AC Milan to fight for 4th place in the standings with only 7 matches left this season anything is still possible to happen even Juventus who are in 3rd place in the standings are still not safe because they are only superior 3 points and their performance is quite bad in the last 3 matches.

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Quote from: Bobrox on April 24, 2023, 09:33:04 PM

Loss on crucial match against Atalanta made AS Roma dropped to 5th standing and has little opportunity with Champion League spot standing, unpredictable with AS Roma underperformance against Atalanta after success winning in Europe League last several days but can continue with consistency performance in domestic league. Have seven matches left for AS Roma get back to the top fourth standing position but have match against Inter Milan seems difficult for AS Roma winning that games. Jose Mourinho have giving huge pressure for their player if want consistent back to the top fourth standing in Serie A.

It's very disappointing result for jose mourinho but he was not feeling bad with the way of his team play against atalanta.

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Following the match, Mourinho was interviewed by DAZN.

“I don’t agree with those who claim we played badly: we played an excellent match and in the end the episodes determine the final result,” he said.

“We controlled the match in the first half, but the first goal was an episode. Tammy has to take a foul and he didn’t take it, we just stared at the ball and Pasalic scored. We had some tired players on the pitch and it showed.”

Jose was not calling his club played so badly against as roma. It seems like that as roma was not lucky enough. Jose may make some evaluations before the match against ac milan will be coming very soon. The problem if roma must have faced crisis before the match against ac milan as so many players faced injury.

Diego Llorente and paulo dybala will not able to perform when the club will be facing ac milan.

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Roma had to admit Atalanta's advantage in last night's game and the 3-1 win made Atalanta even closer to Inter in the standings. Even statistically, Rome actually controlled the game, it's just that Atalanta had a better chance by shooting on target 4 times and from that all 3 goals were created. Roma were only able to record 1 shot on target and that was the only goal scored by Rome, this result was also lacking to equalize until the end of the game. Roma couldn't maximize this match which made their position now starting to be threatened by several teams below them.

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Quote from: Josefjix on April 25, 2023, 12:39:28 AM

Quote from: Sebas.tian on April 25, 2023, 12:15:32 AM

Atalanta really deserved the victory from Roma, because Roma performance was very poor from the beginning of the match till the end of the match that made them to defeated Roma 3-1 to embraced the three points. I think, Roma coach need to work hard to help the team to return back to second position in the Italian league table, because their next match is going to be a tough match which they need to prepare well so that they will experience victory from the match. Roma strikers are doing well but their defense and midfield are not too strong compared from the beginning of this tournament that made them to defeated many strong teams which they can still do it in the remaining matches to improve their points.

AS Roma got defeated and it wasn't their expectations in the game, with full domination of the game. Jose Mourinho was disappointed with match results because his intended action is to win a spot in the champions league next season, mistakes from his players. They got too comfortable with the ball and forget to net a goal when they got the chances to levelled the game. Atalanta on the other hand were serious and never planned for a draw, the way they attack and defend their territory was incredible, not easily invaded by Roma.

For me it was an unexpected result. I expected Roma to win. This group was in a good rhythm. The main reason for their defeat was their poor defense. Atalanta did not play an attacking strategy in this match. Even then they scored 3 goals. Atalanta would not have been able to score three goals if Roma's defense had been strong. Atalanta players made a total of 7 shots in this match. On the other hand, Roma made 14. Mourinho needs to strengthen his team's defense. If not, the Roma team is likely to fall further behind in the points table.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on April 25, 2023, 12:15:32 AM

Atalanta really deserved the victory from Roma, because Roma performance was very poor from the beginning of the match till the end of the match that made them to defeated Roma 3-1 to embraced the three points. I think, Roma coach need to work hard to help the team to return back to second position in the Italian league table, because their next match is going to be a tough match which they need to prepare well so that they will experience victory from the match. Roma strikers are doing well but their defense and midfield are not too strong compared from the beginning of this tournament that made them to defeated many strong teams which they can still do it in the remaining matches to improve their points.

AS Roma got defeated and it wasn't their expectations in the game, with full domination of the game. Jose Mourinho was disappointed with match results because his intended action is to win a spot in the champions league next season, mistakes from his players. They got too comfortable with the ball and forget to net a goal when they got the chances to levelled the game. Atalanta on the other hand were serious and never planned for a draw, the way they attack and defend their territory was incredible, not easily invaded by Roma.

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Loss on crucial match against Atalanta made AS Roma dropped to 5th standing and has little opportunity with Champion League spot standing, unpredictable with AS Roma underperformance against Atalanta after success winning in Europe League last several days but can continue with consistency performance in domestic league. Have seven matches left for AS Roma get back to the top fourth standing position but have match against Inter Milan seems difficult for AS Roma winning that games. Jose Mourinho have giving huge pressure for their player if want consistent back to the top fourth standing in Serie A.

Atalanta really deserved the victory from Roma, because Roma performance was very poor from the beginning of the match till the end of the match that made them to defeated Roma 3-1 to embraced the three points. I think, Roma coach need to work hard to help the team to return back to second position in the Italian league table, because their next match is going to be a tough match which they need to prepare well so that they will experience victory from the match. Roma strikers are doing well but their defense and midfield are not too strong compared from the beginning of this tournament that made them to defeated many strong teams which they can still do it in the remaining matches to improve their points.

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Quote from: BlackBoss_ on April 24, 2023, 09:41:26 PM

This win for Atalanta and also a defeat for AS Roma, together with losses of Lazio, Juventus and Inter Milan make Serie A more exciting. From Juventus to Atalanta, difference is only 7 points and from AC Milan to Atalanta, difference is only 4 points. They are all competing for only 3 slots in top four as the first position belongs to Napoli already.

Napoli's victory over Juventus is certain to come out as champions this season, because it is very difficult to catch up with it, therefore all the top 2 to top 7 teams are fighting for the Champions League zone, so one way is for Juventus to play consistently to maintain the current standings, because they just won an appeal for a point deduction case, for baseless accusations, because only Juventus from a few matches were not very consistent from all the matches played by Juventus, I really hope that the struggle for the Champions zone can attract so many Serie A fans for the next season.

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But it seems to be over now for Roma as Atalanta just scored the second. Mourinho already made four changes early on and I thought that might bring the power they need to turn the game around. I don't know what Roma's strategy is for the rest of the season. Mourinho is a European competitions guy, but he would not give away a strong season final and let easily go of a Champions League qualification. I thought that Roma would perform better this game after they could have gained so much confidence from the Europa League. But Roma hasn't been that stable throughout the season except for their last few games. They have played a solid season, but nothing extraordinary. Though they shouldn't allow for the Champions League to get threatened towards the end of the season.

Wow, two goals in two minutes and Roma's chances to equalize have vanished again - 3-1 at the moment. It is rather paradoxical that such a viscous heavy game has become so productive. A bad surprise from Roma (I predicted them 1-0), but in Serie A you shouldn't be surprised at anything. It is a pity that now they have seriously worsened their chances for the top 4.

I wouldn't exactly call it a surprise as I think a game away against Atalanta can still end with a loss. They are not as strong as they used to be, but they are still in the upper part of the table for a reason. But the loss for Roma weighs heavy as they are bringing themselves into serious trouble regarding the Champions League qualifications. I doubt that Mourinho would be ok with playing another Europa League season, but he is probably planning to win it this year anyway and then qualify that way. Wink

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Quote from: X-ray on April 24, 2023, 06:49:17 PM

To be honest, i don't even like the way of roma played in the match against atalanta. As you can see that above, if roma had only 1 chance against atalanta. It has very big ball possessions, but roma was only playing the ball at the middle without even thinking of creating various attacks that could make the team win the game. roma was just playing passively. I would like to call that if roma didn't wanna win the match.

I don't like the way of a team who didn't interested to create score but it was only consistently passing in the middle of field. What a horrible performance from as roma.

It's really stupid to see that with 64% ball possessions combined with 14 shots but only 1 was on target.

Roma did played very bad in the first half and they got two easy conceded goals which make the match more difficult for them when they had play at a home-away stadium in Bergamo. After the first goal from Lorenzo Pellegrini, Roma did not come back but got a third conceded goal which is a serious mistake from their goalkeeper. It's unbelievable that how an old and experienced goalkeeper like Patricio could make that mistake.

That goal nearly nailed the defeat for Roma and they god another bad news. It seems Dybala got a serious injury which can damage their squad strength especially attacking power and they will have more troubles in Europa League semi finals and remaining matches of Serie A.

Hopefully after having a full checkup, Dybala injury is not too bad and he will come back soon as AS Roma really need to have Dybala.

This win for Atalanta and also a defeat for AS Roma, together with losses of Lazio, Juventus and Inter Milan make Serie A more exciting. From Juventus to Atalanta, difference is only 7 points and from AC Milan to Atalanta, difference is only 4 points. They are all competing for only 3 slots in top four as the first position belongs to Napoli already.

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Loss on crucial match against Atalanta made AS Roma dropped to 5th standing and has little opportunity with Champion League spot standing, unpredictable with AS Roma underperformance against Atalanta after success winning in Europe League last several days but can continue with consistency performance in domestic league. Have seven matches left for AS Roma get back to the top fourth standing position but have match against Inter Milan seems difficult for AS Roma winning that games. Jose Mourinho have giving huge pressure for their player if want consistent back to the top fourth standing in Serie A.

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Quote from: X-ray on April 24, 2023, 06:49:17 PM

To be honest, i don't even like the way of roma played in the match against atalanta. As you can see that above, if roma had only 1 chance against atalanta. It has very big ball possessions, but roma was only playing the ball at the middle without even thinking of creating various attacks that could make the team win the game. roma was just playing passively. I would like to call that if roma didn't wanna win the match.

I don't like the way of a team who didn't interested to create score but it was only consistently passing in the middle of field. What a horrible performance from as roma.

It's really stupid to see that with 64% ball possessions combined with 14 shots but only 1 was on target.

I agree with you on this. What’s the need of having a high possession of the ball and don’t create goal scoring chances. Roma's performance today was off. I expected them replicate the form they had against Feyenoord in this game. They have the quality to penetrate Atalanta's midfield and defensive setup and score. Instead they were just recycling possession and passing the ball around. Now this result could have a big effect on the race for the Champions League spots.

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To be honest, i don't even like the way of roma played in the match against atalanta. As you can see that above, if roma had only 1 chance against atalanta. It has very big ball possessions, but roma was only playing the ball at the middle without even thinking of creating various attacks that could make the team win the game. roma was just playing passively. I would like to call that if roma didn't wanna win the match.

I don't like the way of a team who didn't interested to create score but it was only consistently passing in the middle of field. What a horrible performance from as roma.

It's really stupid to see that with 64% ball possessions combined with 14 shots but only 1 was on target.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on April 24, 2023, 05:53:13 PM

My bet on both teams to score won thanks to Roma's contribution as well. But they still had a bad game of course. Atalanta beat them in both league games so far. They weren't even in a good shape before facing Roma but this wasn't any hindrance to beat Roma anyway. If Atalanta didn't score that cheesy goal then maybe the last minutes of the game would have been more exciting to watch.

Milan have taken the fourth position from Roma after this result. Despite being left out of top 4 after Juventus' punishment overturned, Milan are again in the Champions League zone. But it won't be easy for them to keep their presence while they are focused on the Champions League semi final round as well.

But to be honest, the Atalanta vs Roma match was a little boring. But yeah, I have to admit that Atalanta has better attack effectiveness and accuracy than Rome. Even though Roma had more ball possession in this match, it was difficult for Roma to penetrate the Atalanta defense and they struggled to find gaps to make comfortable shots which they could aim at Atalanta's goal.

Atalanta's first goal was also quite beautiful. a good assist from D. Zapata was maximized well by M. Pašalić. and with this result Atalanta can get closer to the difference in points owned by Inter Milan who are ranked 6th.

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