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Nevertheless, Juventus' performance this season has been very poor. There are only a few matches left, but Juve have no hope of qualifying for the champions this season. At least they should be able to reach the target to qualify for the UCL.

Of course, with their better performance than the clubs above it, it makes their chances of entering the UCL Zone even greater. Their point difference is also not much, nine points is not impossible. But of course they have to work hard for the rest of the game. The rest of their games are indeed against teams that are not easy. But indeed they deserved to enter the UCL zone, they managed to win 0-1 from Inter. They will also play in the Coppa Italia semi-final against Inter.

If Juventus stays on a winning track for the rest of the season, of course they still have a chance to get into the top 4, I think this is a good chance for Juventus even though they are penalized with a 15 point deduction and no chance to win the Italian league this season. at least being able to qualify for the UCL next season is good enough.

And I believe that Juventus will continue to do very well in the remaining matches of the season. because Juventus' current performance is actually above Milan, Inter and Lazio. we can see the proof in their winnings this season, namely 17 wins, 5 draws and only five defeats from a total of 27 matches.

the number of wins that Juventus have in Serie A is in second place. while the sequence with the first most wins is certainly Napoli with 23 wins.

Even if only Juventus did not get a point deduction sanction. so currently Juventus will be ranked 2nd.

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Quote from: rendravolt on March 28, 2023, 08:46:52 AM

One of the matches this week will bring Monza against Lazio and it seems that Lazio's position will be more comfortable if they manage to win this match. The last meeting of these two teams was won by Lazio with a narrow score and Monza, who as the host in this week's match, might have a slight advantage to provide resistance so that Lazio cannot steal points at home. If we look at the odds offered by the bookie, Lazio is favored with odds @2.14 and for Monza with odds @3.70 I think it's clear here who the bet is for, surely Lazio will win this match with a narrow score again 0-1.

Wow, it seems interesting to bet on Lazio's win, because in fact Lazio so far this season has chosen very good results for away matches. But in this match Lazio still gets odds @ 2.14, obviously these are very good odds for a team that is guaranteed to win because after all, Monza doesn't have a good record when Monza plays at home.

This will be very interesting because even though Lazio are the favorites because they get lower odds than Monza, but basically with such a difference in odds Lazio is still in doubt to win. That's what I think is something interesting, because even though Lazio is in second place in the Serie A standings, but Lazio is not fully projected to win for the match against Monza later.

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Quote from: makishart on March 28, 2023, 09:42:35 AM

I don't think so. Which things that makes you think if the performance of juventus is really poor this season? Juventus is still having a chance to be qualfied for UCL.

Juventus did not begin this season well but later they improved and got a good streak to move to a third position. After that they suddenly got a big point deduction and fell down to nearly bottom of first half on the table. Again they improved and came closely to top four so in general I don't consider their performance is too bad.

However, it is not enough for them to compete with Napoli even if they have 15 more points (without the deduction). They must buy some players for their squad to compete with Napoli in a next season. Obviously they should focus to complete this season in top four first.

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And about Kvaratskhelia this player basically is a midfielder but i don't know why Spalletti always be played him as a winger but this strategy were successfully to makes Kvaratskhelia performing well and he cannot be said to be a replacement for Osimhen because these players had different positions

Some players have big changes in their career by changing their positions: from a striker to a central defender, from a forward to a registrar like Pirlo who was given a great change by Carlo Ancelotti in AC Milan.

Maybe Kravatskhelia was given such career-changing request from Spaletti and he stepped up his career to highest level.

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Quote from: Almasani on March 27, 2023, 05:51:58 PM

Nevertheless, Juventus' performance this season has been very poor. There are only a few matches left, but Juve have no hope of qualifying for the champions this season. At least they should be able to reach the target to qualify for the UCL.

I don't think so. Which things that makes you think if the performance of juventus is really poor this season? Juventus is still having a chance to be qualfied for UCL. there are still some ways for juventus to do that. Have you even watched the match regularly or did you just make a comment without even watched a single match? Juventus is still having europa league as a way to be qualified for UCL. Allegri is now focusing on how juventus will be able to be qualified for UCL. I think that anyone knows so well about the condition of juventus right now.
If it's not caused by the sanction and juventus is still sitting in the second place right now, 15 points as sanction is really big in my opinion.

If juventus will always be winning the match until the end of season and juventis may still be possible to be qualified for UCL as the gap to some teams above juventus were not so big.

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Quote from: piebeyb on March 28, 2023, 08:22:32 AM

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Nevertheless, Juventus' performance this season has been very poor. There are only a few matches left, but Juve have no hope of qualifying for the champions this season. At least they should be able to reach the target to qualify for the UCL.

Of course, with their better performance than the clubs above it, it makes their chances of entering the UCL Zone even greater. Their point difference is also not much, nine points is not impossible. But of course they have to work hard for the rest of the game. The rest of their games are indeed against teams that are not easy. But indeed they deserved to enter the UCL zone, they managed to win 0-1 from Inter. They will also play in the Coppa Italia semi-final against Inter.

If Juventus stays on a winning track for the rest of the season, of course they still have a chance to get into the top 4, I think this is a good chance for Juventus even though they are penalized with a 15 point deduction and no chance to win the Italian league this season. at least being able to qualify for the UCL next season is good enough.

The reason why people believe Juventus can be of the top teams of Serie A is the bad performance of other top teams and the instability they have. Juventus could be the cond teams in the league if they didn't lose the 15 points they could even have a better situation and they closer to being the first team in the league if they didn't lose it, but recently they start recovering and Juventus can surely get into top four teams with the current situation.

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One of the matches this week will bring Monza against Lazio and it seems that Lazio's position will be more comfortable if they manage to win this match. The last meeting of these two teams was won by Lazio with a narrow score and Monza, who as the host in this week's match, might have a slight advantage to provide resistance so that Lazio cannot steal points at home. If we look at the odds offered by the bookie, Lazio is favored with odds @2.14 and for Monza with odds @3.70 I think it's clear here who the bet is for, surely Lazio will win this match with a narrow score again 0-1.

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Quote from: piebeyb on March 28, 2023, 08:22:32 AM

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Nevertheless, Juventus' performance this season has been very poor. There are only a few matches left, but Juve have no hope of qualifying for the champions this season. At least they should be able to reach the target to qualify for the UCL.

Of course, with their better performance than the clubs above it, it makes their chances of entering the UCL Zone even greater. Their point difference is also not much, nine points is not impossible. But of course they have to work hard for the rest of the game. The rest of their games are indeed against teams that are not easy. But indeed they deserved to enter the UCL zone, they managed to win 0-1 from Inter. They will also play in the Coppa Italia semi-final against Inter.

If Juventus stays on a winning track for the rest of the season, of course they still have a chance to get into the top 4, I think this is a good chance for Juventus even though they are penalized with a 15 point deduction and no chance to win the Italian league this season. at least being able to qualify for the UCL next season is good enough.

I'm sure that at the end of the championship we will see Juventus in the top 4 positions, the teams ahead of them have not had exciting results in the last few games, and 9 points are not prohibitive. of course, they will have to maintain this form for the rest of the championship to be able to hit fourth place, but it is within their reach

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Quote from: G_Besar on March 27, 2023, 05:01:59 PM

I still admire Juventus who have an extraordinary mentality. The team from the city of Turin is now able to overshadow the top flight of the standings after being suspended. This is not a first for them. The Calciopoli case has also happened to them, but the great thing is that they always get back up. This season if they are able to finish in fourth place then it is truly an extraordinary achievement for them. But unfortunately they have to divide their concentration instead of wanting to focus on Serie A.

Agree with you, indeed as one of the biggest clubs in Italy and Europe, Juventus must have the mentality and quality to get out of difficult times. Even though Juventus have lost points and been eliminated from the UCL, Juventus still have a chance to win the Europa trophy and reach the top four positions in Serie A. For this reason, Juventus needs to show consistency in performance, increase efficiency and improve efficiency. Demonstrate a high fighting spirit to achieve goals.

All of that required a great deal of effort on the part of the Juventus management, coaches and players. if that can all be passed, Juventus has the potential to end this season successfully and bring pride to its fans.

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Quote from: Luzin on March 28, 2023, 06:46:07 AM

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Nevertheless, Juventus' performance this season has been very poor. There are only a few matches left, but Juve have no hope of qualifying for the champions this season. At least they should be able to reach the target to qualify for the UCL.

Of course, with their better performance than the clubs above it, it makes their chances of entering the UCL Zone even greater. Their point difference is also not much, nine points is not impossible. But of course they have to work hard for the rest of the game. The rest of their games are indeed against teams that are not easy. But indeed they deserved to enter the UCL zone, they managed to win 0-1 from Inter. They will also play in the Coppa Italia semi-final against Inter.

If Juventus stays on a winning track for the rest of the season, of course they still have a chance to get into the top 4, I think this is a good chance for Juventus even though they are penalized with a 15 point deduction and no chance to win the Italian league this season. at least being able to qualify for the UCL next season is good enough.

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Quote from: babo on March 28, 2023, 07:17:50 AM

Let's say that the athletic part started very badly, with many injured people
He also had a second phase of athletic decline
then financial problems
legal problems
I would say a season to forget for them

Sounds a complicated problem inside juventus Cheesy

I think the case that happened to Juventus also have a bad impact on the players' confidence in being able to become champions. Before getting the point deduction, they can compete in the top 3 of the standings already. Starting the season with injured players but getting into the top 3 is a great achievement. Unfortunatelly, they are getting a point deduction, this can make Juventus players worried about the future of Juventus. Because previously sanctioned by relegation, the fear of getting the same sanction must be in the players' feelings. Hopefully current sanction is the final for Juventus. So we can see Juventus competing for scudetto again next season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on March 27, 2023, 06:05:24 PM

Napoli - Milan game is going to be more important for Milan when we look at their conditions in the standings.

Napoli are already very close to declaring their championship in the league. Even if they lose points here it wouldn't change so many things for them. But for Milan it is important to get some points because they are fighting for finishing the season in top four to join the Champions League once again. However I don't think Napoli will lose points in this game. Milan still have the same kind of issues so Napoli can benefit from this.

Obviously AC Milan needs a win more than Napoli, but will Napoli just let AC Milan win? Of course not. Since Napoli will also want to claim the title long before the season ends, it will be very profitable for them. By claiming the title early they could rest a lot of players and give a chance to players who haven't played much this season.

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I still admire Juventus who have an extraordinary mentality. The team from the city of Turin is now able to overshadow the top flight of the standings after being suspended. This is not a first for them. The Calciopoli case has also happened to them, but the great thing is that they always get back up. This season if they are able to finish in fourth place then it is truly an extraordinary achievement for them. But unfortunately they have to divide their concentration instead of wanting to focus on Serie A.

Juventus got tough phase this season with the critical point deduction from the old lady's and also pointing out some efficient obligation from the club. Their performance is really poor this season, right from the very start of the Seria A and elimination from the UEFEA is also disappointing. However there's also room for renounce into the game in football, it's a possible tasks for them to bring over the Europa trophy to Turin and win a spot in the top 4.

Let's say that the athletic part started very badly, with many injured people
He also had a second phase of athletic decline
then financial problems
legal problems
I would say a season to forget for them

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Quote from: Almasani on March 27, 2023, 05:51:58 PM

Nevertheless, Juventus' performance this season has been very poor. There are only a few matches left, but Juve have no hope of qualifying for the champions this season. At least they should be able to reach the target to qualify for the UCL.

Of course, with their better performance than the clubs above it, it makes their chances of entering the UCL Zone even greater. Their point difference is also not much, nine points is not impossible. But of course they have to work hard for the rest of the game. The rest of their games are indeed against teams that are not easy. But indeed they deserved to enter the UCL zone, they managed to win 0-1 from Inter. They will also play in the Coppa Italia semi-final against Inter.

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After 15 points were deducted from Juventus, it was not very interesting to follow them, but now they have this chance and I think that the team understands this and they will do everything to finish the season in the top 4, that would be great!

Juventus' performance this season is good. it's just that they have problems and that makes them unable to compete at the top of the standings. but what amazed me, after they got the point deduction, they got up pretty quickly. and is now in 7th position.
Juventus also qualified for the Europa League quarter-final phase. and also qualified for the Semi-finals of the Italian Cup. Juve's achievements are extraordinary. if he didn't suffer a point deduction, maybe now they have competed with Napoli.

Their performance is average even with the deduction. It is an ok performance for them. They have been a club for several years to score 90 points and even more than that per season. So even if you add those deducted points back, they wouldn't make it 90 points. They have performed below par and now I wonder what they are going to do to improve the squad for the upcoming season. First and foremost they must try to qualify for the Champions League or otherwise it will be hard to sign any stars. Nobody will go there and not be able to play the Champions League.

I have always said something, when it comes to making penalties they should not be applied to the teams in this way, they should be applied to the owners of the teams, the players, the team as such should not suffer, they should do something different as a sanction very big monetary, because in part it takes away the emotion a bit, because the team achieved those 15 points by its own effort and it should not be like that, however at this time Serie A would be more exciting, something like the Bundesliga, however We as good fans must accept these things, if Napoli and Juventus were not dotted.

I have to say that I couldn't agree more. The players really have nothing to do with it unless they have been part of some shady business structures where they are funneling funds to tax paradises and so on. I think that was the case with Messi, Neymar and also Ronaldo? Or some other stars, I cannot remember right now. But it is always the whole team and also the fans and you are definitely right that it is mostly the owners and the management who are to blame. They could even be sent to jail for a year. But I think more often then not those guys are so well connected not only in sports, but often also in politics, that they carry the least of the burden resulting from the penalties. Someone like Blatter from FIFA gets a penalty, yes, but does he care? There were no real consequences for him such that it would influence his life sustainably. The bosses are the ones, the players are just suffering from it and the competition ultimately suffers as well.

However, the problem is if a team has an advantage from it and I think that was the case. When one team does bullshit financially and can therefore sign more players than other teams, then the team must be punished as a whole or you get the competition out of balance in that way.

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Quote from: bering on March 28, 2023, 12:00:21 AM

Napoli actually has several strikers on their team but only Osimhen who able to performing well and scores many goals and until week 27 Napoli has 64 goals in Serie A and 21 goals of which were scored by Osimhen which mean almost 30% of Napoli total goals is came from Osimhen so losing him will have bad impact for Napoli and no wonder Napoli always looking for ways to keep Osimhen at least until next season

They have Giovani Simeone, a son of Atletico Madrid coach, but he is not a high quality striker. It makes sense to think that Napoli will have trouble if they lose Osimhen by injuries or transfer and have to use Giovani as their main striker. Giovani did had some good performances as a substitution but big difference when you play as a main striker and as an alternative striker.

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And about Kvaratskhelia this player basically is a midfielder but i don't know why Spalletti always be played him as a winger but this strategy were successfully to makes Kvaratskhelia performing well and he cannot be said to be a replacement for Osimhen because these players had different positions

Kravatskhelia is like a main source of creativeness in Napoli. In previous seasons, they had Insigne but luckily found Kravatskhelia when Insigne left Naples in the last summer. More luckily as they got him with cheap transfer cost and he performs well with his first season in Napoli.

He helps Napoli system operates very smooth and with his appearance, opponents will have to pay attention on him and Osimhen as these two players combine with each other very well. This will give other players in Napoli squad more space to play and can boost their performance a little bit better.

Napoli with Osimhen + Kravatskhelia would be different than Napoli without one of them or both of them.

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Napoli - Milan game is going to be more important for Milan when we look at their conditions in the standings.

Napoli are already very close to declaring their championship in the league. Even if they lose points here it wouldn't change so many things for them. But for Milan it is important to get some points because they are fighting for finishing the season in top four to join the Champions League once again. However I don't think Napoli will lose points in this game. Milan still have the same kind of issues so Napoli can benefit from this.

The match will be tough for both team, because each of them want to improve their points which will make the two coach to do some homework to improve their players before this match. But, no matter how strong Milan will display in this match, I think Napoli will still achieve victory at the end of the match because they understood Milan strategies very well compare to other teams in this Italian league competition. Milan will definitely score goal from this match, because their strikers are very good but it will be difficult for them to win the match because Napoli will never allow such opportunity to come to Milan.

Napoli will be playing at home, and it will be difficult for Milan to beat or even draw. In the previous match at home to Milan, Napoli also won 1-2. and now it will be even more difficult for Milan to hold off Napoli who are getting stronger with the mental drive to win the Serie A trophy. Milan will struggle either in Serie A or in the Champions League against Napoli. although eventually, Napoli will try very hard to get the win.

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Victor Osimhen continues to contribute to Napoli by scoring extraordinary goals. in fact, we can see that he barely misses scoring goals in all matches, be it in Serie A or in the Champions League. and even today many are starting to target Osimhen. I even heard that several big clubs from the Premier League have shown their interest in Victor Osimhen for next season. but I doubt Napoli will let Osimhen go. because after all Osimhen is a player that Napoli must have to continue to have an advantage in Serie A. But it depends on Osimhen himself when his contract expires at Napoli whether he will extend the contract or he will decide to play in a bigger league like the EPL.

Yep. Osimhen's performance is amazing, he is very productive in scoring this season. He is the top scorer in Serie A with 21 goals. He even has no competitor, other players still score below 15 goals.

It is true that there are many big teams interested in Victor Osimhen. He is a typical striker that seems to be suitable to play in any team. He is also still young and very skillful. So, no doubt that all the top teams in the world want to sign him. However, I agree that Napoli will always try to keep him, Osimhen has a very crucial role in Napoli squad. If they lose him, I assume Napoli attack won't be as sharp as this season.

Correct. if Napoli loses Osimhen then as you said that their line of attack will not be as sharp as it is today. although Napoli still has Khvicha Kvaratskhelia who also has good sharpness in accuracy. but Khvicha Kvaratskhelia herself could not yet match Osimhen's level. Osimhen very rarely misses the opportunities he gets. and Osimhen's level of accuracy is truly outstanding. if I remember correctly when I read the news about an interview Osimhen also said that he really wanted to play in the Premier League one day but not for now.

Napoli actually has several strikers on their team but only Osimhen who able to performing well and scores many goals and until week 27 Napoli has 64 goals in Serie A and 21 goals of which were scored by Osimhen which mean almost 30% of Napoli total goals is came from Osimhen so losing him will have bad impact for Napoli and no wonder Napoli always looking for ways to keep Osimhen at least until next season

And about Kvaratskhelia this player basically is a midfielder but i don't know why Spalletti always be played him as a winger but this strategy were successfully to makes Kvaratskhelia performing well and he cannot be said to be a replacement for Osimhen because these players had different positions

In my opinion Kvaratskhelia and Osimhen currently could be a heat commodity for Napoli i am sure more big teams will be interested to them and i am not sure this summer Napoli will be able to hold them considering some big teams possibly will offering big money to buy them

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Quote from: Almasani on March 27, 2023, 05:51:58 PM

Nevertheless, Juventus' performance this season has been very poor. There are only a few matches left, but Juve have no hope of qualifying for the champions this season. At least they should be able to reach the target to qualify for the UCL.

During the current season, Juventus has lost a lot of its game form in the League and this season, they do have a few games left, I don't think they will enter the Champions League next season, even though they only need a few more points to finish in the top 4 of the standings to get a ticket to the Champion league, after they lost a lot of performance this season making it difficult for them to enter the champion league next season, besides that the four top Klamsen will continue to fight for their position, in order to get a champion ticket next season.

They need 3 wins to place 4th in the league standings and 3 defeats for Ac Milan and it looks like Milan's 1 defeat will occur when they meet Napoli in the upcoming meeting, hope with a point difference of 7 is a little close, but of course Ac Milan will continue to fight maintain its position to advance to the Champions league of course.

the difference of 7 points with 4th place, namely Milan, indeed makes Juventus still have quite an open opportunity. but of course it would be quite difficult. because Roma and Atalanta are also eyeing that position. and Milan itself will certainly try to restore their performance. Milan is currently in an inconsistent condition. in fact they lost to Udinese with a sizable score of 3-1. but even so, Milan's performance in that match was pretty good, it's just that Milan's defense does have a lot of gaps at this time. and they have to fix that. But Juventus are also really extraordinary at the moment. they became more consistent even after receiving a point deduction. but the journey to the top 4 will indeed be difficult. but their chances are still there. I think Serie A is now more competitive and more exciting than last season. this is because many unexpected events have occurred at the Serie A club.

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Napoli - Milan game is going to be more important for Milan when we look at their conditions in the standings.

Napoli are already very close to declaring their championship in the league. Even if they lose points here it wouldn't change so many things for them. But for Milan it is important to get some points because they are fighting for finishing the season in top four to join the Champions League once again. However I don't think Napoli will lose points in this game. Milan still have the same kind of issues so Napoli can benefit from this.

The match will be tough for both team, because each of them want to improve their points which will make the two coach to do some homework to improve their players before this match. But, no matter how strong Milan will display in this match, I think Napoli will still achieve victory at the end of the match because they understood Milan strategies very well compare to other teams in this Italian league competition. Milan will definitely score goal from this match, because their strikers are very good but it will be difficult for them to win the match because Napoli will never allow such opportunity to come to Milan.

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Quote from: Almasani on March 27, 2023, 05:51:58 PM

Nevertheless, Juventus' performance this season has been very poor. There are only a few matches left, but Juve have no hope of qualifying for the champions this season. At least they should be able to reach the target to qualify for the UCL.

During the current season, Juventus has lost a lot of its game form in the League and this season, they do have a few games left, I don't think they will enter the Champions League next season, even though they only need a few more points to finish in the top 4 of the standings to get a ticket to the Champion league, after they lost a lot of performance this season making it difficult for them to enter the champion league next season, besides that the four top Klamsen will continue to fight for their position, in order to get a champion ticket next season.

They need 3 wins to place 4th in the league standings and 3 defeats for Ac Milan and it looks like Milan's 1 defeat will occur when they meet Napoli in the upcoming meeting, hope with a point difference of 7 is a little close, but of course Ac Milan will continue to fight maintain its position to advance to the Champions league of course.

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