Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) - page 2131.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on February 16, 2023, 03:17:20 PM

I think Juventus' time will come in the future but it is really difficult to tell when for now. First they will need to get rid of the current problems about the team. If they don't get another punishment then they should consider themselves lucky for now. It seems really difficult for them to even qualify for the Europa Conference League in this situation. A gap of ten points is not easy to close for them. In addition to that there are some other teams between as well.

Juventus should just do their best no matter what in this season and think of what they can do in the next one. Besides they can still focus on the Europa League as much as possible. Who knows maybe they can win the title there and secure a ticket to the Champions League group stage.

If indeed their condition was like this from the start and did not violate a number of things that were actually not justified then it would be very good for them.
Currently Juventus have players who are quite complex in attack after his players returned from injury.
Chiesa is still a blessing in my opinion for Juventus. Actually, I was a little skeptical after he was injured for a long time but indeed that was broken because he can still contribute and even give a different color to Juventus in the midfield.

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Quote from: Doell on February 16, 2023, 03:10:47 PM

To get a ticket, indeed Milan had better to win on match against Monza, but recently Monza is quite impressive in Serie A, they have a great record. Yeah as you said indeed is true recently also Milan vulnerable in defense and I think it will make Monza more flexible to attack, but hopefully the win against Tottenham in the UCL can give them fire to get three points against Monza. Regarding Atalanta it also looks like they will possibility can to get a win against Lecce, because previously Atalanta had succeeded in getting three points from Lazio, it will make Atalanta squad more confident.

Tottenham is not an easy opponent for Milan because so far Tottenham has been very superior as seen from the several matches they managed to win even though sometimes some ended in a draw but at least Milan had to prepare a good strategy against Tottenham. If Milan manages to get a win against Monza, they will immediately get additional points and enter the top 3 of the Serie A League.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 16, 2023, 02:22:04 PM

Milan had better win their next game which is against Monza away. Because their fixture is not very favourable these days. They are going to take on Atalanta and Fiorentina respectively after this game. We all see how vulnerable Milan have been in defense recently. Both of these two teams are big threats to Milan as a result. Especially Atalanta I can say.

The win over Tottenham might help Milan players gather themselves up maybe. They really need some improvement in their form in the Serie A to finish the season in top 4.

To get a ticket, indeed Milan had better to win on match against Monza, but recently Monza is quite impressive in Serie A, they have a great record. Yeah as you said indeed is true recently also Milan vulnerable in defense and I think it will make Monza more flexible to attack, but hopefully the win against Tottenham in the UCL can give them fire to get three points against Monza. Regarding Atalanta it also looks like they will possibility can to get a win against Lecce, because previously Atalanta had succeeded in getting three points from Lazio, it will make Atalanta squad more confident.

AC Milan's appearance against Tottenham was quite stunning. By shooting 1 golden goal which was executed by Brahim Diaz in the seventh minute, AC Milan was ahead until the end of the game. Stefano Pioli as a coach said he was happy that AC Milan could beat Tottenham.
AC Milan managed to beat Tottenham in the first leg of the last 16 of the 2022/2023 Champions League season.
Milan is currently in fifth place in the standings with 41 points, the same as Atalanta and AS Roma who occupies third and fourth positions. They are three points behind Inter Milan who finished second.
Technically, Milan should be able to win the game against AC Monza easily. However, the club owned by Silvio Berlusconi is in a state of high motivation to avoid relegation.

In addition, AC Milan Coach Stefano Pioli is still waiting for the recovery of two of his key players in the squad to strengthen the Rossoneri before facing AC Monza, away from home.

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Friday 17th February
Sassuolo 19:45 Napoli

Saturday 18th February
Sampdoria 14:00 Bologna
Monza 17:00 AC Milan
Inter Milan 19:45 Udinese

Sunday 19th February
Atalanta 11:30 Lecce
Fiorentina 14:00 Empoli
Salernitana 14:00 Lazio
Spezia 17:00 Juventus
Roma 19:45 Verona

Monday 20th February
Torino 19:45 Cremonese

Not a single big game this week.

Source: https://www.skysports.com/serie-a-fixtures

Beware of Monza Milan.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on February 16, 2023, 03:17:20 PM

I think Juventus' time will come in the future but it is really difficult to tell when for now. First they will need to get rid of the current problems about the team. If they don't get another punishment then they should consider themselves lucky for now. It seems really difficult for them to even qualify for the Europa Conference League in this situation. A gap of ten points is not easy to close for them. In addition to that there are some other teams between as well.

Juventus should just do their best no matter what in this season and think of what they can do in the next one. Besides they can still focus on the Europa League as much as possible. Who knows maybe they can win the title there and secure a ticket to the Champions League group stage.

I don't think have ideas how to describe if Juventus get another punishment later after 15 points deduction and right now have started from the middle standing position. But have three winning in last three matches for all competition seems Juventus mentality is back after dropping when point deduction announced by FIGC. Honestly 12 points left from AS Roma as the last standing for UEFA Champion League spot not close for Juventus back to the top fourth standing. Next two matches against Spezia and Torino seems guarantee for Juventus get three points and keep close standing with the Europe League spot standing teams.

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I could imagine that Juventus no longer feel like making an effort in the competition due to all the points deduction. For example, the Conference League seems to be the maximum attainable. It could be that Juventus would rather not play a European tournament at all instead of a Conference League. They will feel too big for that, but it also costs a lot of travel time and the risk of injury will therefore increase considerably. It is actually a strange sight to see Juventus active in the Europa League in my opinion. I don't know how different Juventus players view this. They are basically finished in the league, but big players (and Juventus really have a number of them) always want to play CL at the beginning of the season, don't they? Maybe they could get de Ligt back.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on February 16, 2023, 03:17:20 PM

I think Juventus' time will come in the future but it is really difficult to tell when for now. First they will need to get rid of the current problems about the team. If they don't get another punishment then they should consider themselves lucky for now. It seems really difficult for them to even qualify for the Europa Conference League in this situation. A gap of ten points is not easy to close for them. In addition to that there are some other teams between as well.

Juventus should just do their best no matter what in this season and think of what they can do in the next one. Besides they can still focus on the Europa League as much as possible. Who knows maybe they can win the title there and secure a ticket to the Champions League group stage.

As long as the match is still there, the chance is still quite big if their target is there, even though the Champions League is a bit difficult.
They just have to focus on the goal now and certainly can't repeat the mistakes like they did that resulted in them being punished like this season.
With the current condition of the players it is clear that at the moment they are quite good, especially since most of the players have been able to play in the match which is a breath of fresh air for them.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 16, 2023, 02:22:04 PM

Milan had better win their next game which is against Monza away. Because their fixture is not very favourable these days. They are going to take on Atalanta and Fiorentina respectively after this game. We all see how vulnerable Milan have been in defense recently. Both of these two teams are big threats to Milan as a result. Especially Atalanta I can say.

The win over Tottenham might help Milan players gather themselves up maybe. They really need some improvement in their form in the Serie A to finish the season in top 4.

Milan won once in their previous five games while Monza didn't lose any match out of the eight previous games.
Milan odds are better for obvious reasons but a draw is possible too in my opinion.
Tomorrow, we have Sassuolo - Napoli and an opportunity to increase the gap further if Inter lose points against Udinese

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I think Juventus' time will come in the future but it is really difficult to tell when for now. First they will need to get rid of the current problems about the team. If they don't get another punishment then they should consider themselves lucky for now. It seems really difficult for them to even qualify for the Europa Conference League in this situation. A gap of ten points is not easy to close for them. In addition to that there are some other teams between as well.

Juventus should just do their best no matter what in this season and think of what they can do in the next one. Besides they can still focus on the Europa League as much as possible. Who knows maybe they can win the title there and secure a ticket to the Champions League group stage.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on February 16, 2023, 02:22:04 PM

Milan had better win their next game which is against Monza away. Because their fixture is not very favourable these days. They are going to take on Atalanta and Fiorentina respectively after this game. We all see how vulnerable Milan have been in defense recently. Both of these two teams are big threats to Milan as a result. Especially Atalanta I can say.

The win over Tottenham might help Milan players gather themselves up maybe. They really need some improvement in their form in the Serie A to finish the season in top 4.

To get a ticket, indeed Milan had better to win on match against Monza, but recently Monza is quite impressive in Serie A, they have a great record. Yeah as you said indeed is true recently also Milan vulnerable in defense and I think it will make Monza more flexible to attack, but hopefully the win against Tottenham in the UCL can give them fire to get three points against Monza. Regarding Atalanta it also looks like they will possibility can to get a win against Lecce, because previously Atalanta had succeeded in getting three points from Lazio, it will make Atalanta squad more confident.

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Quote from: hahay on February 16, 2023, 11:55:54 AM

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After Juventus were severely punished last time they returned from Serie B and we saw a decade of their complete dominance. Interestingly, this time we will see a repetition of this? Or, given the fact that the punishment this time was relatively weak, then such a tough domination from Juventus will no longer happen?

No one will know for sure, because there are many other big teams in Serie A which of course they will never give up easily and will continue to provide tough resistance for Juventus. Serie A is not like the Bundesliga which only has one strong team with great dominance, so it will be difficult for Juventus to be able to repeat the great domination that Juventus once had as in the past.

So yes, I personally don't believe Juventus will have the dominance it had in the past. But to win the title maybe in two or three consecutive seasons it looks like it will still be able to happen in the future, the point is no one will know for sure. But if only to win the Serie A title then of course, Juventus still have a big chance to win it in the following seasons.

It is a pity that most likely the Napoli championship will be an isolated event (which is of course very good after so many years) since at the end of the season the best players will be bought up by top clubs. Quite unusually, what happened to Ajax last year will happen to one of the Italian tops. But such is the economy, Italy is a small economy and is gradually losing competition to other countries.

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Milan had better win their next game which is against Monza away. Because their fixture is not very favourable these days. They are going to take on Atalanta and Fiorentina respectively after this game. We all see how vulnerable Milan have been in defense recently. Both of these two teams are big threats to Milan as a result. Especially Atalanta I can say.

The win over Tottenham might help Milan players gather themselves up maybe. They really need some improvement in their form in the Serie A to finish the season in top 4.

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Quote from: piebeyb on February 16, 2023, 11:12:19 AM

Yes, so far only Inter Milan have been able to beat Napoli and that really has no effect on reducing points, Napoli are still far from the top of the standings, there is no competitor for Napoli at the top of the standings and now they can focus on the last 16 of the Champions League to can proceed to the next round

inter milan will find it difficult to provide strong competition for napoli because of the distance in points that is the obstacle. even on the one hand, inter milan in the previous match just threw away the opportunity to cut the gap in points from Napoli because they drew against Sampdoria. Napoli is at the forefront of winning the 2022/2023 Serie A season.

Inter milan and Napoli, I hope they can focus their energies on the Champions league because inter milan will face porto and Napoli will face Eintracht frankfurt in the first leg of the round of 16. I hope they both can follow Ac milan who is able to win the first leg match in round of 16.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on February 16, 2023, 12:05:37 PM

I see a quite comfortable win for Inter this week. I know that the Sampdoria game was also such game but Inter couldn't score a goal despite the huge dominance.

I guess that they wouldn't experience the same scenario consecutively. Udinese are far away from their look at the beginning of the season. They can't fight for top places in the standings anymore. Their recent form is bad and their chance for even the 6th place to qualify for the ECL is not very much. Inter have a significant deal of superiority to Udinese in home games. While Inter are the second best home team and have amazing stats in offense and defense both, I don't see any reason for them to lose points here.

Actually Inter Milan played well and always tried to carry out attacks, but unfortunately they were not effective enough when launching attacks so that every time they built an attack they always found a dead end. The creativity of a player is tested when in a situation like that, and it seems that the Inter Milan players were not creative enough when trying to break down the defense built by Sampdoria in that match so they couldn't score a goal.

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Quote from: wmaurik on February 16, 2023, 08:53:56 AM

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With everything that Napoli has shown this season, the belief in them has increased, including to beat the opponents they will face every week. They have a very good performance, that's what makes them in their current position in the standings table with a long distance too. Previously I did not expect that Napoli would perform this well this season, but they really showed that they are serious about the championship.

Indeed, the extraordinary performance that Napoli has shown this season has made it very difficult for all other teams to catch up on points from Napoli and thanks to Napoli's consistency this season is very serious. Of course Napoli is very likely to get the title in Serie A this season because the hope is very slim for other teams to catch up with Napoli from now on even though the chances are still there, but expecting Napoli to lose at this point seems very difficult even though it could happen. Because Napoli is still easier to win in every match.

Napoli is the only team in Serie A that has been able to continue its good performance since the start of the season. And with the way they are performing, they have no competition for the title this season. Napoli has scored the most goals in Serie A this season. And Napoli has the strongest defense too. Because of the good performance of every player in the team, Napoli is able to play well in every match. They have no weaknesses in defense, midfield, or forward. Napoli is sure to win the Serie A title unless something goes wrong. So I would say now Napoli's aim should be to perform well in Champions League matches. If Napoli is able to maintain consistency, they will be able to maintain their dominance in the Champions League as well.

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Quote from: masulum on February 16, 2023, 07:26:23 AM

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. I think next season will return to normal and Juventus will definitely be ready to start all over again.

Next season could be a difficult season for Juventus. The case of financial irregularities and false accounting that they do is to cover up their unhealthy finances. That is, if Juventus free from additional sanctions, so they can remain in Serie A next season. However, Juventus must be ready to sell their highly paid star players. From here, slow but sure, i think Juventus can improve its finances and rebuild the squad without doing another calciopoli or whatever in the future.

think about how many problems
already this started very badly with many injured people
the next one promises to be worse, he assumes that Juventus fans will have to suffer a lot in these 2 years

unfortunately it happens, especially if you do magic (it is no coincidence that Juventus wanted to create the Super League)

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Quote from: masulum on February 16, 2023, 07:26:23 AM

Next season could be a difficult season for Juventus. The case of financial irregularities and false accounting that they do is to cover up their unhealthy finances. That is, if Juventus free from additional sanctions, so they can remain in Serie A next season. However, Juventus must be ready to sell their highly paid star players. From here, slow but sure, i think Juventus can improve its finances and rebuild the squad without doing another calciopoli or whatever in the future.

It was a consequence of what they had done so far, but they only failed to learn from their previous mistakes until this new mistake was repeated. I really doubt what Juventus have experienced this season due to their non-compliance with the rules, and basically this only costs them big losses and can even be sued by several parties.

We don't know what punishment Juventus will suffer in the end, it's still not over and there may be additional penalties they will have to live. Staying in Serie A is their and their fans' biggest dream, but only if Juventus is declared free from another punishment.

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Week 23 will also be a week that will not be too difficult for Napoli to continue to show that they are difficult to contain. Next week they will face Sassuolo who have not performed well this season, they are now in 15th place with a lot of negative results in every game they have played. Big opportunity, yes again Napoli has a great chance to continue to maintain their point difference in the standings table to get them closer to the Scudetto title this season.

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I see a quite comfortable win for Inter this week. I know that the Sampdoria game was also such game but Inter couldn't score a goal despite the huge dominance.

I guess that they wouldn't experience the same scenario consecutively. Udinese are far away from their look at the beginning of the season. They can't fight for top places in the standings anymore. Their recent form is bad and their chance for even the 6th place to qualify for the ECL is not very much. Inter have a significant deal of superiority to Udinese in home games. While Inter are the second best home team and have amazing stats in offense and defense both, I don't see any reason for them to lose points here.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 16, 2023, 06:43:23 AM

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To be able to continue to compete in Serie A next season I don't think it's difficult for Juventus, their decline in position was not because they performed badly but because of the sanctions and before the sanctions Juventus were very good, it was only the defeat from Napoli that made them look so bad but for the rest they were enough competitive even as a title contender this season, but now Napoli will be clear to be champions of the season.

After Juventus were severely punished last time they returned from Serie B and we saw a decade of their complete dominance. Interestingly, this time we will see a repetition of this? Or, given the fact that the punishment this time was relatively weak, then such a tough domination from Juventus will no longer happen?

No one will know for sure, because there are many other big teams in Serie A which of course they will never give up easily and will continue to provide tough resistance for Juventus. Serie A is not like the Bundesliga which only has one strong team with great dominance, so it will be difficult for Juventus to be able to repeat the great domination that Juventus once had as in the past.

So yes, I personally don't believe Juventus will have the dominance it had in the past. But to win the title maybe in two or three consecutive seasons it looks like it will still be able to happen in the future, the point is no one will know for sure. But if only to win the Serie A title then of course, Juventus still have a big chance to win it in the following seasons.

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