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Quote from: RealMalatesta on December 30, 2022, 03:51:15 PM

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Since the start of the season, Napoli have played extraordinary, but this is a different situation. After a long break, it is believed that changes will occur, especially after a friendly match where Napoli played less than optimally.
Betting on Napoli in this match is quite risky but anything is still very possible to happen.
this is a match that will be very fierce, I think it is difficult to choose a bet on one of the teams, but after I have considered it, I think it is more appropriate to bet on this match, is to take a goal over, seeing that both teams have great potential to score goals against each other.

after the world cup break, most teams played friendly matches to restore the squad mentality. Napoli did, despite the disappointing result. but in the Serie A match, now Napoli is the leader in the standings.
facing Inter is not an easy match for Napoli. but they can hold Inter. Inter just had a trial run with Sassuolo. with Inter winning 0-1.
what Inter has shown hasn't looked very good. but their chances of winning this match are bigger than Napoli's. A fight like this is hard to place a bet on. maybe I'll miss it.

I feel like friendly games to get back into match shape, and considering not that many players were in the world cup from serie A as a result, all comes down to realizing that they are not really doing anything big at the moment.
I personally would love to have a situation where teams would play against only their opponents during friendly, like Napoli vs Inter and Milan vs Juventus type of friendly during that period so that people would realize it is not really a big deal. In any case, I feel like Serie A is basically Napolis playground for this season, and I do not see them giving up the leadership at any moment of the season and will get the title by the end for sure.

If anyone is worried about the break in play, causing Napoli some problems, I want to say I am not sure that they will not face any problems. But at the same time I will say that even if they do perform badly from this point, they cannot blame it on the break in place. Because they have a good enough lead. This type of breathing space is hard to get. Especially with how competitive the Italian league has become. So, I don’t see them giving up the first position to any other team. Not with how they have been performing before the World Cup.

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In the second half it seemed that Juventus had changed their game pattern and now Juventus have managed to equalize through a penalty goal, hoping that both teams will continue to give a good performance, buying and selling attacks and pressing will be interesting to watch.

yes, Juventus finally played better. Both teams showed an interesting game. the fight is almost over, but it looks like the result will still be the same 1-1.
hopefully, this will be an important capital for both teams to continue competing in the League. Juve after this will face a fairly weak team, Cremonese. until now Cremonese has not won. it would be bad for them if the situation didn't change. Juventus, of course, will certainly get an easy win.

well easy that plays well
now he doesn't have many injured people, now he doesn't have the crippled team

I laugh at those who were against Allegri hoping they'd kick him out, last minute and ignorant fans

Juventus have a very strong team on paper, perhaps the strongest formation in Serie A, the problem is that the players argue with Allegri, I have always labeled the Juventus fans as occasional, when Allegri took them to the Champions League final everyone said that he was the best, now that the team doesn't follow him, everyone says #allegriout

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Quote from: Strongkored on December 31, 2022, 01:12:59 AM

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Yes it's true in a friendly match, it seems that the Napoli coach doesn't force his players to appear at full strength and usually in a friendly match, many teams just want to try to implement a new strategy and see if the strategy is suitable if implemented when they return to the series A match, Napoli is one of the strongest candidates in Serie A so I don't really believe if they played with an actual strategy in that friendly match because so far we have often seen how Napoli's performers play when competing for the Scudetto title.

Friendly matches can also be used by teams to train their team cohesiveness because a break of about a month can make them have to start over from the beginning or also to see the fitness of the players because not all players have the discipline to keep practicing during breaks, but whatever it is a friendly match cannot be used as a reference about the strength of a team

In fact, friendly matches can also be used as training to try new strategies or to harmonize new players that they rarely featured in the main lineup in each regular competition. So there are so many benefits from friendly matches in terms of the team, the coach and the players. So winning or losing is just a result that doesn't really matter to both teams.

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Quote from: bounceback on December 30, 2022, 11:37:17 PM

Yes it's true in a friendly match, it seems that the Napoli coach doesn't force his players to appear at full strength and usually in a friendly match, many teams just want to try to implement a new strategy and see if the strategy is suitable if implemented when they return to the series A match, Napoli is one of the strongest candidates in Serie A so I don't really believe if they played with an actual strategy in that friendly match because so far we have often seen how Napoli's performers play when competing for the Scudetto title.

Friendly matches can also be used by teams to train their team cohesiveness because a break of about a month can make them have to start over from the beginning or also to see the fitness of the players because not all players have the discipline to keep practicing during breaks, but whatever it is a friendly match cannot be used as a reference about the strength of a team

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Quote from: TopT3ns on December 30, 2022, 10:18:01 AM

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I don't feel the situation has changed or is different, a friendly match is so different from a competitive one, even if Napoli lost to Lille in a friendly match, it does not mean anything much to them and they will carry on in the seria a as they did before the world cup. The world cup break was not a long one, it was just for one month, so i don't feel there will be too many changes, as long as players aren't injured they will perform as they did before the world cup. I know Napoli have been too good this season, and seria a fans are waiting for a period that they will lose games, i don't think that period is now, it may probably be when they have won the league with some matches remaining to play.

A friendly match will not have any effect; in fact, when playing a friendly match, you must be careful because your opponent,Maybe the enemy has the potential to know the strategy used or maybe he also has the potential to injure the main players, which will cause losses; therefore, friendly matches should not be taken seriously.

I don't think so, maybe for you it can't be a good measurement to determine the peformance from
the club. in my belief once a team can't even did well during the friendly match and that meant there was something wrong with the team. A good team will not consider the friendly match as something that's unimportant. Winning any match shall be a must to make sure that if the performance from the club will be stable wothout any problem that was affecting it. i kinda feel that if napoli has been using all of its strength against losc.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on December 30, 2022, 06:59:04 PM

Quote from: TopT3ns on December 30, 2022, 10:18:01 AM

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I don't feel the situation has changed or is different, a friendly match is so different from a competitive one, even if Napoli lost to Lille in a friendly match, it does not mean anything much to them and they will carry on in the seria a as they did before the world cup. The world cup break was not a long one, it was just for one month, so i don't feel there will be too many changes, as long as players aren't injured they will perform as they did before the world cup. I know Napoli have been too good this season, and seria a fans are waiting for a period that they will lose games, i don't think that period is now, it may probably be when they have won the league with some matches remaining to play.

A friendly match will not have any effect; in fact, when playing a friendly match, you must be careful because your opponent,Maybe the enemy has the potential to know the strategy used or maybe he also has the potential to injure the main players, which will cause losses; therefore, friendly matches should not be taken seriously.

that's a good point, no manager will risk anything in a friendly match, just tries some new stuff, put some players together, try out young ones and players who didn't have a chance to play a lot in official matches...etc thats why sometimes we see good teams lose against unknown teams in random European leagues, so if i see Napoli losing 4-0 in a friendly i would probably still bet on them to win the league.

Yes it's true in a friendly match, it seems that the Napoli coach doesn't force his players to appear at full strength and usually in a friendly match, many teams just want to try to implement a new strategy and see if the strategy is suitable if implemented when they return to the series A match, Napoli is one of the strongest candidates in Serie A so I don't really believe if they played with an actual strategy in that friendly match because so far we have often seen how Napoli's performers play when competing for the Scudetto title.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on December 30, 2022, 10:18:01 AM

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I don't feel the situation has changed or is different, a friendly match is so different from a competitive one, even if Napoli lost to Lille in a friendly match, it does not mean anything much to them and they will carry on in the seria a as they did before the world cup. The world cup break was not a long one, it was just for one month, so i don't feel there will be too many changes, as long as players aren't injured they will perform as they did before the world cup. I know Napoli have been too good this season, and seria a fans are waiting for a period that they will lose games, i don't think that period is now, it may probably be when they have won the league with some matches remaining to play.

A friendly match will not have any effect; in fact, when playing a friendly match, you must be careful because your opponent,Maybe the enemy has the potential to know the strategy used or maybe he also has the potential to injure the main players, which will cause losses; therefore, friendly matches should not be taken seriously.

that's a good point, no manager will risk anything in a friendly match, just tries some new stuff, put some players together, try out young ones and players who didn't have a chance to play a lot in official matches...etc thats why sometimes we see good teams lose against unknown teams in random European leagues, so if i see Napoli losing 4-0 in a friendly i would probably still bet on them to win the league.

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Quote from: boltz on December 30, 2022, 10:51:06 AM

I was just reading some stuff about Juventus and it seems they want to go all in for Europa League this season and first game with Nantes seems pretty great for them during the fact that Nantes are clearly not having a great season in Ligue 1 with only 1 place between them and relegation spots.

It's also been a very long time since Juventus got an international trophy right ? This year seems to have the best chance to win a trophy as UCL is still a far away dream for them in current state of the club.

Well it won't really be easy ... there is barcelona awaits as well , so it's not only juventus being so serious facing the europa league this season gonna be really something to watch. Juventus still have a wide open cometition as well in the domestic league despite they are 10 points behind the leader napoli , it takes only a couple matches for them to get the situation in 180 degree.

5 days to go before the serie A restarted and juventus going to play cremonese which should be a 3 points clear tho.

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Quote from: terrorJR on December 30, 2022, 02:34:00 PM

Quote from: TopT3ns on December 30, 2022, 10:18:01 AM

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I don't feel the situation has changed or is different, a friendly match is so different from a competitive one, even if Napoli lost to Lille in a friendly match, it does not mean anything much to them and they will carry on in the seria a as they did before the world cup. The world cup break was not a long one, it was just for one month, so i don't feel there will be too many changes, as long as players aren't injured they will perform as they did before the world cup. I know Napoli have been too good this season, and seria a fans are waiting for a period that they will lose games, i don't think that period is now, it may probably be when they have won the league with some matches remaining to play.

A friendly match will not have any effect; in fact, when playing a friendly match, you must be careful because your opponent,Maybe the enemy has the potential to know the strategy used or maybe he also has the potential to injure the main players, which will cause losses; therefore, friendly matches should not be taken seriously.

Friendly matches are usually used to test and try some of the new tactics they will run so that some differences will be seen in the data later. regardless of losing or not actually this doesn't really matter but on the other hand this can also backfire I think when they keep trying to create new tactics of course there will be a number of things that maybe this will become data for other teams that they have weaknesses. there are actually pluses and minuses but it depends on the club and the coach too later because their goal is not to completely win but whether the new scheme is successful or not.

The world championship was played in a period in which all the European and non-European championships were active, many teams found themselves with many players not involved in the world championship! this is a big problem because it makes you lose your physical condition, so playing friendlies only serves to maintain physical rhythm and not to lose physical condition. Winning or losing them counts for little but obviously a defeat can weigh on the team's mood, but it's not long before we start again with Serie A and a key match between Inter and Naples! I'm really curious to see if both will restart with the physical condition they had before the world championship

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Friendly matches in themselves are not bad. I think it's better than not playing games at all. Those games are only meant to keep the rhythm. Training alone won't get you a match rhythm of course. Competition in Italy starts in a few days, on January 04. A nice date, then people can still recover from old and new for a few days. There are countries in which they decided to hold football matches even on December 31. And matches on January 1st, what should we think of that? I think that's very badly managed. And for Inter it already seems to be the last chance to find the connection with Napoli.

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Quote from: rozak on December 30, 2022, 12:46:49 AM

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Since the start of the season, Napoli have played extraordinary, but this is a different situation. After a long break, it is believed that changes will occur, especially after a friendly match where Napoli played less than optimally.
Betting on Napoli in this match is quite risky but anything is still very possible to happen.
this is a match that will be very fierce, I think it is difficult to choose a bet on one of the teams, but after I have considered it, I think it is more appropriate to bet on this match, is to take a goal over, seeing that both teams have great potential to score goals against each other.

after the world cup break, most teams played friendly matches to restore the squad mentality. Napoli did, despite the disappointing result. but in the Serie A match, now Napoli is the leader in the standings.
facing Inter is not an easy match for Napoli. but they can hold Inter. Inter just had a trial run with Sassuolo. with Inter winning 0-1.
what Inter has shown hasn't looked very good. but their chances of winning this match are bigger than Napoli's. A fight like this is hard to place a bet on. maybe I'll miss it.

I feel like friendly games to get back into match shape, and considering not that many players were in the world cup from serie A as a result, all comes down to realizing that they are not really doing anything big at the moment.

I personally would love to have a situation where teams would play against only their opponents during friendly, like Napoli vs Inter and Milan vs Juventus type of friendly during that period so that people would realize it is not really a big deal. In any case, I feel like Serie A is basically Napolis playground for this season, and I do not see them giving up the leadership at any moment of the season and will get the title by the end for sure.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on December 30, 2022, 10:18:01 AM

Quote from: Z-tight on December 30, 2022, 01:48:52 AM

I don't feel the situation has changed or is different, a friendly match is so different from a competitive one, even if Napoli lost to Lille in a friendly match, it does not mean anything much to them and they will carry on in the seria a as they did before the world cup. The world cup break was not a long one, it was just for one month, so i don't feel there will be too many changes, as long as players aren't injured they will perform as they did before the world cup. I know Napoli have been too good this season, and seria a fans are waiting for a period that they will lose games, i don't think that period is now, it may probably be when they have won the league with some matches remaining to play.

A friendly match will not have any effect; in fact, when playing a friendly match, you must be careful because your opponent,Maybe the enemy has the potential to know the strategy used or maybe he also has the potential to injure the main players, which will cause losses; therefore, friendly matches should not be taken seriously.

Friendly matches are usually used to test and try some of the new tactics they will run so that some differences will be seen in the data later. regardless of losing or not actually this doesn't really matter but on the other hand this can also backfire I think when they keep trying to create new tactics of course there will be a number of things that maybe this will become data for other teams that they have weaknesses. there are actually pluses and minuses but it depends on the club and the coach too later because their goal is not to completely win but whether the new scheme is successful or not.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on December 30, 2022, 10:18:01 AM

Quote from: Z-tight on December 30, 2022, 01:48:52 AM

I don't feel the situation has changed or is different, a friendly match is so different from a competitive one, even if Napoli lost to Lille in a friendly match, it does not mean anything much to them and they will carry on in the seria a as they did before the world cup. The world cup break was not a long one, it was just for one month, so i don't feel there will be too many changes, as long as players aren't injured they will perform as they did before the world cup. I know Napoli have been too good this season, and seria a fans are waiting for a period that they will lose games, i don't think that period is now, it may probably be when they have won the league with some matches remaining to play.

A friendly match will not have any effect; in fact, when playing a friendly match, you must be careful because your opponent,Maybe the enemy has the potential to know the strategy used or maybe he also has the potential to injure the main players, which will cause losses; therefore, friendly matches should not be taken seriously.

But when a team starts losing many matches and makes a great comeback in the friendly matches then the friendly match becomes important for the team. In view of which confidence is created among the team players and they try to do better in the next matches.

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Quote from: babo on December 30, 2022, 12:29:42 PM

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In the second half it seemed that Juventus had changed their game pattern and now Juventus have managed to equalize through a penalty goal, hoping that both teams will continue to give a good performance, buying and selling attacks and pressing will be interesting to watch.

yes, Juventus finally played better. Both teams showed an interesting game. the fight is almost over, but it looks like the result will still be the same 1-1.
hopefully, this will be an important capital for both teams to continue competing in the League. Juve after this will face a fairly weak team, Cremonese. until now Cremonese has not won. it would be bad for them if the situation didn't change. Juventus, of course, will certainly get an easy win.

I missed this match, but judging from what was said it looks like it was pretty interesting. I saw the statistics for this match, and it looks like they can play openly and Juventus have more chances.
I hope this draw doesn't turn into speculation that Juventus are also playing down like what happened to Napoli. Napoli is considered to be in decline because they lost friendly matches like this. In fact, the results of friendly matches like this cannot be a benchmark for actual games in real competitions such as in Serie A.

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Currently the match between PSV vs AC Milan is underway and the score while AC Milan lost 3 goals. Although this match is titled a friendly match that some fans think is not important, but behind that we think there is a purpose and purpose for both teams. For Milan, in addition to testing tactics and strategies in preparation for Serie A, this match against PSV is also a place to show the ability of players to carry out the coach's strategy.

For me, Stefano Pioli must be observant to see where the shortcomings can be corrected and also in seeing the strengths of his players so that they can be maintained and even improved.

The temporary score is 3-0 for PSV's victory and the match has entered the 78th minute.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on December 30, 2022, 12:39:42 PM

Quote from: babo on December 30, 2022, 12:29:42 PM

well easy that plays well
now he doesn't have many injured people, now he doesn't have the crippled team

I laugh at those who were against Allegri hoping they'd kick him out, last minute and ignorant fans

Juventus were in a pretty bad condition before in fact. They had a horrible group stage in the Champions League and barely qualified for the Europa League as well. They didn't have a good form in the Serie A at the beginning of the season too. But despite all of these negative results, they still managed to start recovering a short time after. They have been just great in the Serie A for six weeks. The Cremonese match is an opportunity to make it seven. Actually they can continue to win until facing Napoli considering their fixtures.

But the Napoli match will be very tough. We need to see what Napoli will do against Inter first though. If we see some weaknesses then Juventus might be able to steal at least one point from them. Allegri just needs to have a good season in the remaining time to consolidate his place in the team.

Juventus is one of the big teams that played badly at the start of the season, and that made many parties want to see Alleger leave Juventus, which became very natural when the coach was under pressure like that. But slowly they began to rediscover something that was missing from this team, and Allegri managed to also answer that people were wrong when they expected him to leave Juventus. They have recorded successive wins, now it's just a matter of how they can play consistently for the matches that will be contested. They will also receive injections of players who have been injured.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on December 30, 2022, 10:18:01 AM

A friendly match will not have any effect; in fact, when playing a friendly match, you must be careful because your opponent,Maybe the enemy has the potential to know the strategy used or maybe he also has the potential to injure the main players, which will cause losses; therefore, friendly matches should not be taken seriously.

Friendly matches don't do much for teams, but usually coaches will use them to test their strategies and players during matches. I'm less likely to even see a coach going so focused on playing his main players in a friendly, that too for reasons of concern about unwanted injuries. Whether they are serious in the match or not depends on the opponent too but I think friendlies are also good to warm up during breaks.

On January 4th Milan will travel to the Arechi Stadium or to the home of Salernitana. Milan's chances of winning the match can be said to be better than the home team, in fact I think Milan will take advantage of this match to get 3 points to get close to Napoli at the top. I don't think they will drop points in that match, but they could if Salernitana was able to surprise Milan enough with his quick goal.

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Quote from: babo on December 30, 2022, 12:29:42 PM

well easy that plays well
now he doesn't have many injured people, now he doesn't have the crippled team

I laugh at those who were against Allegri hoping they'd kick him out, last minute and ignorant fans

Juventus were in a pretty bad condition before in fact. They had a horrible group stage in the Champions League and barely qualified for the Europa League as well. They didn't have a good form in the Serie A at the beginning of the season too. But despite all of these negative results, they still managed to start recovering a short time after. They have been just great in the Serie A for six weeks. The Cremonese match is an opportunity to make it seven. Actually they can continue to win until facing Napoli considering their fixtures.

But the Napoli match will be very tough. We need to see what Napoli will do against Inter first though. If we see some weaknesses then Juventus might be able to steal at least one point from them. Allegri just needs to have a good season in the remaining time to consolidate his place in the team.

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Quote from: Awaklara on December 30, 2022, 10:16:18 AM

Quote from: rendravolt on December 30, 2022, 09:49:02 AM

In the second half it seemed that Juventus had changed their game pattern and now Juventus have managed to equalize through a penalty goal, hoping that both teams will continue to give a good performance, buying and selling attacks and pressing will be interesting to watch.

yes, Juventus finally played better. Both teams showed an interesting game. the fight is almost over, but it looks like the result will still be the same 1-1.
hopefully, this will be an important capital for both teams to continue competing in the League. Juve after this will face a fairly weak team, Cremonese. until now Cremonese has not won. it would be bad for them if the situation didn't change. Juventus, of course, will certainly get an easy win.

well easy that plays well
now he doesn't have many injured people, now he doesn't have the crippled team

I laugh at those who were against Allegri hoping they'd kick him out, last minute and ignorant fans

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Quote from: boltz on December 30, 2022, 10:51:06 AM

I was just reading some stuff about Juventus and it seems they want to go all in for Europa League this season and first game with Nantes seems pretty great for them during the fact that Nantes are clearly not having a great season in Ligue 1 with only 1 place between them and relegation spots.

It's also been a very long time since Juventus got an international trophy right ? This year seems to have the best chance to win a trophy as UCL is still a far away dream for them in current state of the club.

Their match was considered comfortable enough to move on to the next round in the Europa League this season because they had an opponent who on paper was no better than them. Especially now that they seem to be making a lot of improvements from their game, even though it can't be said to be completely very good, but the performance they are doing is much better than at the start of the season. Nantes is an opponent they have to beat to be able to compete in the Europa League.

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