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I have doubts about how much Juventus will benefit from Pogba. Juventus needed a regular scorer. But Pogba is a midfielder. Juventus need an experienced striker to win the title

Are you sure that Striker is more important for Juventus? They have Vlahovic already, although he is still very young but he has great potential as long as he is supported by great midfielder. That was one of the main problem of Juventus last season where they have no player who can manage the midfield very well. Pogba can fill this missing position and improve the midfield side of Juventus but of course they need other players for other positions.

I still think Juventus need a more experienced striker. Neither Dybala nor Dusan Vlahovic is regular scorers. You say that good midfielder have the potential to perform well if they are supported. I agree with that. But I also have my doubts about whether Pogba will be able to adapt to Juventus. Because I watched almost every match of Pogba's poor performance last season live. So if Juventus are to win the title they need to have another experienced striker.

What, Pogba adapted to Juventus? Even though Manchester United bought Pogba at that time from Juventus at a high price. Therefore, the reason Pogba continues to be associated with Juventus is because Pogba is not a stranger to Juventus, because Pogba was also becoming popular at Juventus at that time until Manchester United finally dared to pay a high price. Basically if Pogba really returns to Juventus, then Pogba throughout his career so far only for these two teams. But there is still no official decision on which team Pogba will choose, because there are still other attractive offers such as PSG and Real Madrid who are interested in getting Pogba as well.

Pogba may not be unfamiliar to Juventus. However, we do not know how Pogba will play for Juventus next season. Ronaldo did well for Manchester United in the 2007–2008, and 2008–09 seasons, but did not appear to be performing as well as he did last season. Similarly Pogba may have played very well with the Juventus squad in the past. However, now that he is out of form, we cannot say for sure how he will perform with Juventus next season.

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Quote from: hahay on June 06, 2022, 04:00:01 AM

What, Pogba adapted to Juventus? Even though Manchester United bought Pogba at that time from Juventus at a high price. Therefore, the reason Pogba continues to be associated with Juventus is because Pogba is not a stranger to Juventus, because Pogba was also becoming popular at Juventus at that time until Manchester United finally dared to pay a high price. Basically if Pogba really returns to Juventus, then Pogba throughout his career so far only for these two teams. But there is still no official decision on which team Pogba will choose, because there are still other attractive offers such as PSG and Real Madrid who are interested in getting Pogba as well.

The problem is not because Pogba has played at Juventus, but the decline in his performance at Manchester United. Yes, we can't blame him for why he declined, because if we look at the whole team he's playing for, it's the unstable team that has an effect on him. With conditions like this, the player will certainly return to a different situation when he was with Juventus.

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I have doubts about how much Juventus will benefit from Pogba. Juventus needed a regular scorer. But Pogba is a midfielder. Juventus need an experienced striker to win the title

Are you sure that Striker is more important for Juventus? They have Vlahovic already, although he is still very young but he has great potential as long as he is supported by great midfielder. That was one of the main problem of Juventus last season where they have no player who can manage the midfield very well. Pogba can fill this missing position and improve the midfield side of Juventus but of course they need other players for other positions.

I still think Juventus need a more experienced striker. Neither Dybala nor Dusan Vlahovic is regular scorers. You say that good midfielder have the potential to perform well if they are supported. I agree with that. But I also have my doubts about whether Pogba will be able to adapt to Juventus. Because I watched almost every match of Pogba's poor performance last season live. So if Juventus are to win the title they need to have another experienced striker.

What, Pogba adapted to Juventus? Even though Manchester United bought Pogba at that time from Juventus at a high price. Therefore, the reason Pogba continues to be associated with Juventus is because Pogba is not a stranger to Juventus, because Pogba was also becoming popular at Juventus at that time until Manchester United finally dared to pay a high price. Basically if Pogba really returns to Juventus, then Pogba throughout his career so far only for these two teams. But there is still no official decision on which team Pogba will choose, because there are still other attractive offers such as PSG and Real Madrid who are interested in getting Pogba as well.

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It seems that Juventus and Pogba have finally reached an agreement and Pogba's salary will be 8 million a year without bonuses.

I have doubts about how much Juventus will benefit from Pogba. Juventus needed a regular scorer. But Pogba is a midfielder. Juventus need an experienced striker to win the title

I never really understand these players willing to get traded between the same two clubs over and over again. But I can definitely understand why he wants to go back to the club where he became famous,,, the Pogba I saw most of the time, whenever I could, was always having his head down at Manchester United.

France need him for World Cup to get his confidence back.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on June 05, 2022, 02:29:48 PM

I have doubts about how much Juventus will benefit from Pogba. Juventus needed a regular scorer. But Pogba is a midfielder. Juventus need an experienced striker to win the title

Are you sure that Striker is more important for Juventus? They have Vlahovic already, although he is still very young but he has great potential as long as he is supported by great midfielder. That was one of the main problem of Juventus last season where they have no player who can manage the midfield very well. Pogba can fill this missing position and improve the midfield side of Juventus but of course they need other players for other positions.

I still think Juventus need a more experienced striker. Neither Dybala nor Dusan Vlahovic is regular scorers. You say that good midfielder have the potential to perform well if they are supported. I agree with that. But I also have my doubts about whether Pogba will be able to adapt to Juventus. Because I watched almost every match of Pogba's poor performance last season live. So if Juventus are to win the title they need to have another experienced striker.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on June 05, 2022, 02:29:48 PM

I have doubts about how much Juventus will benefit from Pogba. Juventus needed a regular scorer. But Pogba is a midfielder. Juventus need an experienced striker to win the title

Are you sure that Striker is more important for Juventus? They have Vlahovic already, although he is still very young but he has great potential as long as he is supported by great midfielder. That was one of the main problem of Juventus last season where they have no player who can manage the midfield very well. Pogba can fill this missing position and improve the midfield side of Juventus but of course they need other players for other positions.

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Maybe looking for a replacement for ibrahimovic. The team needs to prepare talented players to back Rafael Leao and Olivier Giroud up front. Marko Lazetic and junior I think the team need more than that to keep the position of milan next season, because I believe inter and juventus will make changes for next season, this will be a threat to milan, they have to maintain the team's performance and I think Milan need support up front.

It would be really good to see them strengthening their attacking line indeed. Actually their main striker has been Oliver Giroud so far. Zlatan Ibrahimovic played in 27 games in total too but he wasn't very effective on the final weeks of the season as much as he was at the beginning of it. Giroud had a quite good season actually as he made important contributions when the team needed him the most. However I still don't see any striker who scores so many goals in a season for them. Hence maybe they would like to bring a striker like that.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic has not played much this season due to injury, he has to undergo a medical process and rest for a long time. Regarding the contribution of Milan's goal machine this season, the former Lille striker who was recruited by Milan in the summer of 2019 Rafael Leao became Milan's top scorer this season. Leao contributed 12 goals and 9 assists for Milan, and his performance successfully brought Milan to win the Serie A.

Although Milan managed to finish in 1st position in Serie A, I have never seen Stefano Pioli's team enter the list of Serie A top goalscorers this season. Oliver Giroud may be there next season Cheesy

Yes it seems not so important for the club, but maybe important for a player's career development

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Quote from: CLS63 on June 05, 2022, 02:54:03 PM

It looks like Juventus are making a significant effort to make their squad even stronger before next season starts.

Yes, they are improving their squad to expect a better result for the next season. I am so sure that Juventus targets to compete for the title. With their current quad, it is quite doubtful to compete with AC Milan and Inter Milan. So, they must bring some new players to strengthen their squad.

Quote from: CLS63 on June 05, 2022, 02:54:03 PM

They are targeting Pogba now as he is leaving Manchester United very soon. Juventus seem like the most serious team to sign him for now even though there are rumours about PSG and Real Madrid as well.

Pogba has a big contribution to the success of Juventus previously. While Juventus current midfield isn't really convincing, it looks not competitive enough to achieve the target for the title. Juventus has a good defense and attack, they need to focus on improving their midfield since it is their weakness. If they have a strong midfield, their squad will be capable to compete AC Milan and Inter Milan.

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As for Pogba I still have my doubts but I don't rule out this could also happen because so far he's only been close to Juventus

Reportedly Pogba is very close to Juventus some local media reported this although Pogba has not officially confirmed it but observers believe he will go to Juventus

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Juventus have scheduled new direct contacts soon for Paul Pogba. Negotiations ongoing to discuss details of the contract, after long-term deal proposal worth €8m per season net as guaranteed salary plus add-ons 🇫🇷 #transfers

Real Madrid are focused on Tchouaméni, not on Pogba.

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The meanest transfer rumor of the season is the one stating that Madrid are interested in Paul Pogba LOL. pogba was promised a much cheaper pay (salary) than when he was at Manchester United and he seems to agree with that

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Quote from: CLS63 on June 05, 2022, 02:54:03 PM

It looks like Juventus are making a significant effort to make their squad even stronger before next season starts. They are targeting Pogba now as he is leaving Manchester United very soon. Juventus seem like the most serious team to sign him for now even though there are rumours about PSG and Real Madrid as well. I think Pogba would think of joining the Juventus side seriously as they are his old team. Juventus started to improve their game and their biggest weakness is their midfield now. They can make it very strong if they reach an agreement with Pogba.

Well, there are few people who will refuse the arrival of a player of such class as Pogba as a free agent. Another question is that his game for Manchester United has not been so impressive lately and he has not brought so much benefit and the current low place of United and the absence from the Champions League is also his fault. And so, if Massimiliano Allegri can cope with his, to put it mildly, difficult character and pick up the right strings in his soul, then it would be a good reinforcement for Juventus, because the player's potential is huge.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on June 05, 2022, 08:20:08 AM

Despite Real Madrid's weak defense this season, they have won the Champions League and La Liga titles. The main reason is that their midfield is very strong. At the same time, Benzema was playing well entire the season.

Real Madrid defenders are not really strong, but they aren't weak. They can't win 2 top titles (UCL & La Liga) if their defenders are weak. It is true that Real Madrid midfielders and attackers are strong, but they can't win many matches the whole season if their defense is weak. All lines must be strong enough to perform consistently till the end of the season. Wink

Quote from: BALIK on June 05, 2022, 01:06:24 PM

AC Milan is probably the champion after 10 long years. And so next season they will want to increase their strength and win the title again. AC Milan has not had a regular scorer this season. Giroud and Ibra are certainly good players, but now Milan needs young talent. Inter Milan and Juventus continue their efforts to increase their strength. If AC Milan can't bring in new talented players, they will be left behind in next season's title fight.

You are right. AC Milan needs to improve their attacking lines. They cannot rely on Ibrahimovic and Giroud anymore since these strikers are getting old. Especially Ibra, he may spend more time on the bench in the next season. I think AC Milan can try to sign a striker like Dybala or Lukaku. They are quite strong strikers with a great capability in scoring.

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It looks like Juventus are making a significant effort to make their squad even stronger before next season starts. They are targeting Pogba now as he is leaving Manchester United very soon. Juventus seem like the most serious team to sign him for now even though there are rumours about PSG and Real Madrid as well. I think Pogba would think of joining the Juventus side seriously as they are his old team. Juventus started to improve their game and their biggest weakness is their midfield now. They can make it very strong if they reach an agreement with Pogba.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 05, 2022, 01:09:08 PM

Real Madrid Football Club is a business and has limitations due to the fact that it spends what it earns. PSG is the plaything of the sheiks, behind which the state stands, so Real cannot compete with PSG for Mbappe. The fact that Real did not spend unreasonable money on Mbappe is in my opinion more of a success than a failure.

PSG has a lot of money. And they do not hesitate to spend a lot of money on the team of their choice. But Real Madrid does not spend money unnecessarily. They consider the future of each player before taking them into the team. And they don't cost extra for any player. Mbappe may not be in the team now. But Real's forward cannot be called weak as long as Benzema is in the squad.

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It seems that Juventus and Pogba have finally reached an agreement and Pogba's salary will be 8 million a year without bonuses.

I have doubts about how much Juventus will benefit from Pogba. Juventus needed a regular scorer. But Pogba is a midfielder. Juventus need an experienced striker to win the title

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As for Pogba I still have my doubts but I don't rule out this could also happen because so far he's only been close to Juventus

Reportedly Pogba is very close to Juventus some local media reported this although Pogba has not officially confirmed it but observers believe he will go to Juventus

If it's true and he makes a deal with Juventus I think that's pretty good, because now Juventus need a typical player like him. Of course there will still be a process in implementing the scheme that is really desired. If you look at his time at Manchester United I think it will be a long time for him to get back to his best.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on June 05, 2022, 12:54:21 PM

As for Pogba I still have my doubts but I don't rule out this could also happen because so far he's only been close to Juventus

Reportedly Pogba is very close to Juventus some local media reported this although Pogba has not officially confirmed it but observers believe he will go to Juventus
For 2 seasons Juventus cannot compete at the top of the standings so that Pogba is considered capable of helping Juventus compete with Inter or Milan
Previously Madrid was interested in buying Pogba but the news had been denied Madrid already has another target.

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Quote from: eightdots on June 05, 2022, 07:10:02 AM

I think Real Madrid should have paid for Mbappe. After Ronaldo, they could have recaptured the fast football they wanted. Real Madrid's midfielders are getting old now and I don't think they can handle this pace next year. It was already a miracle that they won the champions league this year and it happened. I really wonder which team Pogba will go to. I don't think he will go to the Italian league.

Real Madrid Football Club is a business and has limitations due to the fact that it spends what it earns. PSG is the plaything of the sheiks, behind which the state stands, so Real cannot compete with PSG for Mbappe. The fact that Real did not spend unreasonable money on Mbappe is in my opinion more of a success than a failure.

It seems that Juventus and Pogba have finally reached an agreement and Pogba's salary will be 8 million a year without bonuses.

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Quote from: zuzie on June 03, 2022, 12:17:50 PM

Maybe looking for a replacement for ibrahimovic. The team needs to prepare talented players to back Rafael Leao and Olivier Giroud up front. Marko Lazetic and junior I think the team need more than that to keep the position of milan next season, because I believe inter and juventus will make changes for next season, this will be a threat to milan, they have to maintain the team's performance and I think Milan need support up front.

It would be really good to see them strengthening their attacking line indeed. Actually their main striker has been Oliver Giroud so far. Zlatan Ibrahimovic played in 27 games in total too but he wasn't very effective on the final weeks of the season as much as he was at the beginning of it. Giroud had a quite good season actually as he made important contributions when the team needed him the most. However I still don't see any striker who scores so many goals in a season for them. Hence maybe they would like to bring a striker like that.

AC Milan is probably the champion after 10 long years. And so next season they will want to increase their strength and win the title again. AC Milan has not had a regular scorer this season. Giroud and Ibra are certainly good players, but now Milan needs young talent. Inter Milan and Juventus continue their efforts to increase their strength. If AC Milan can't bring in new talented players, they will be left behind in next season's title fight.

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Quote from: eightdots on June 05, 2022, 07:10:02 AM

I think Real Madrid should have paid for Mbappe. After Ronaldo, they could have recaptured the fast football they wanted. Real Madrid's midfielders are getting old now and I don't think they can handle this pace next year. It was already a miracle that they won the champions league this year and it happened. I really wonder which team Pogba will go to. I don't think he will go to the Italian league.

what for now? to let everyone know that Madrid can buy anything even with an unreasonable offer?
or to make it seem as if they only need this player to be able to navigate next season?
this is too naive, even though Madrid really want Mbappe and he is the wonderkid who shines the most at the moment with his performances in recent years, but I see they still make sense when big offers are ignored so there really is no other reason than to switch to look elsewhere

As for Pogba I still have my doubts but I don't rule out this could also happen because so far he's only been close to Juventus

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Quote from: zuzie on June 03, 2022, 12:17:50 PM

Maybe looking for a replacement for ibrahimovic. The team needs to prepare talented players to back Rafael Leao and Olivier Giroud up front. Marko Lazetic and junior I think the team need more than that to keep the position of milan next season, because I believe inter and juventus will make changes for next season, this will be a threat to milan, they have to maintain the team's performance and I think Milan need support up front.

It would be really good to see them strengthening their attacking line indeed. Actually their main striker has been Oliver Giroud so far. Zlatan Ibrahimovic played in 27 games in total too but he wasn't very effective on the final weeks of the season as much as he was at the beginning of it. Giroud had a quite good season actually as he made important contributions when the team needed him the most. However I still don't see any striker who scores so many goals in a season for them. Hence maybe they would like to bring a striker like that.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on June 05, 2022, 09:07:32 AM

Real Madrid is not unwilling to pay Mbappe, but Mbappe himself prefers to stay at Paris Saint Germain with a higher offer.
If you look at Real Madrid's defense I think they just need to improve because I think this season has been good enough. Yes, if you look at their midfielders, it's time to start regenerating.

Yes Mbape got a lot of money and special rights at PSG. If we talk this on, it looks like we're going to get off topic.
Milan will reportedly add new players, seeing the television news they are interested in Eljif Elmas and Gleison Bremer. They are Napoli midfielders and Torino defenders. Of course Spalleti doesn't want to fail again in Europe. In addition, they also want to defend the Scudeto title this season. In addition, Zlatan Ibrahimovic's contract is also still unclear because he is also old, there is no way he will be in Milan as a player.

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