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Udinese remains a dangerous and strong team. Inter Milan came in 0-1 but Udinese turned it around completely and at the end it was 3-1 on the scoreboard. There were a few favorites to win the league, but Inter and Juventus in particular have failed miserably. Now I'm sticking to Napoli or maybe Atalanta. For Napoli it would be a nice tribute to Maradona to become champion again. Atalanta has never been champion of Italy as far as I can remember, if they were to become champion it would of course be a huge stunt. Compact team with fun football. I have little faith in Juventus at the moment.

Looking at the performance of Udinese this season, I think they will go far beyond the expectation of everyone because they are playing with so much confidence and energy, and their ability to fight back against any team they play against is one quality I find so interesting about them this season. If they could fight back against Inter Milan then they are improved and should be feard.
Napoli is the only team that could fight and remain on top of the table based on my experience because Atalanta is not always stable with their performance since Inter Milan and Juventus is not in good form at the moment Napoli can make Maradona smile by winning the league this season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 21, 2022, 01:05:33 PM

Could this be Napoli's time to shine for the Serie A title finally?

The season is still very long. Anything can happen with so many team during the rest of season. it's too fast to think that if napoli will shine in seria A. i see that juventus and duo inter have been showing horrible performance. That's why the team like as roma, napoli and udinese can go up and placed at the top of serie a for now. I would not be surprised if those big team who are still underperformance can come back later. Anything can happen but it's good to see that napoli able to compete with so many big club in serie a.
It's too fast to take a conclusion if napoli will be winning serie a

There are still 31 games left to play, and also the points difference between Napoli and some of the teams below them is not that far away.
This means that there is still a possibility that Napoli will be displaced from the top position if Napoli cannot play consistently until the end of the season.
So as you said there are still a lot of possibilities that can happen, it's also quite possible that teams like Juventus and Inter will recover soon.
Competition in Serie A this season is indeed much more interesting in my opinion, too many surprises happened and it became difficult to predict
what would happen next. What is certain is that if we look at the performance of all Serie A teams, I see currently Napoli and AC Milan who have
a greater chance of winning the Serie A trophy. Although Atalanta and Udinese have been surprisingly impressive in their form this season,
but with the quality of the players in both teams which are dominated by mediocre players, I doubt that Atalanta and Udinese can be consistent
until the end of the season.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 21, 2022, 01:05:33 PM

Could this be Napoli's time to shine for the Serie A title finally?

The season is still very long. Anything can happen with so many team during the rest of season. it's too fast to think that if napoli will shine in seria A. i see that juventus and duo inter have been showing horrible performance. That's why the team like as roma, napoli and udinese can go up and placed at the top of serie a for now. I would not be surprised if those big team who are still underperformance can come back later. Anything can happen but it's good to see that napoli able to compete with so many big club in serie a.
It's too fast to take a conclusion if napoli will be winning serie a

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 21, 2022, 01:05:33 PM

Could this be Napoli's time to shine for the Serie A title finally?

It will be great if it happens, that'll be three different winners in the last three seasons, that surely will make the Italian seria a the most competitive league in Europe in ths last three years, some years ago when Juve were winning it practically every season, who would believe that soon to come, they will no longer be in the picture for the title, and that every season there will be a new favorite. I feel Napoli can do it, but we have a very long way to go. In all Europe's top leagues this season, i think the seria a is the one that is most difficult to predict a winner, it is very open, and there are ~ 4-5 contenders.

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Juventus have bad performance in this season between domestic league and UEFA Champion League, several time loss got by Juventus against with mediocre and small team. I can't imagine when Juventus have faced with big match against AC Milan, Inter and Napoli how ability to win. But most surprise with Juventus management still believing and not give any warning for Allegri position as Juventus manager.

So, it looks like something is wrong. Maybe they still keep Allegri for some reason or the club's achievements last season. However, they should have thought about what they were going through right now. A club as big as Juventus is not doing well and is left without any improvement. Even though they may have tried, what we see is the result, and it turns out that the result is still bad like that. It should be for a club as big as Juventus to be able to analyze which part is wrong and must immediately fix it. It's not the start of the season anymore but it's about to enter the 7th game. They shouldn't let them play badly every time, there's no need to waste points, while other clubs are trying to always get full points in every game.

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At least in the last few games Napoli have learned from their mistakes and can provide an answer for their fans that they can bounce back and become number one at the top of the standings, now it seems that the toughest opponents who are ready to make Napoli collapse are the Atalanta and Udinese teams. Napoli must be careful with the team so as not to make the Napoli position eliminated.

Atalanta I'm still pretty sure they will be one of Napoli's toughest hurdles like the 20/21 season even though in the end Napoli again took over their place for UCL qualification
But Udinese, I'm still not sure they will really be ready for the Serie A title let alone UCL qualification. Because there will be Lazio at the top of the standings, and we can see that in the last three seasons Lazio have never been eliminated from the Serie A standings despite often ending the season in the qualifying position of the Europa League. But their quality is always a concern because it always interferes with clubs who want to rise to the top of the standings such as Roma, Udinese, and others.

Udinese put up quite a show this season, they have been in form this season but I really doubt their ability to maintain this level of quality until January. Though other big teams are looking shaky and unstable at the moment but there is a huge possibility they will strengthen their squads and come back into the game and back to top form and the question that should be on our minds is for how long can Udinese maintain this form before they start losing games and going down the table.

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The last call for the sacking (improbable IMHO) during this break is on the 23rd of September.

Juventus on that they will have a shareholders meeting and almost everything can happen even if it is very unlikely sack at this point of the season.

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I feel that Juventus now needs to understand that it’s not working with Allegri, and maybe he’ll cite that last year Ronaldo left and this year Pogba is injured but I feel that these excuses won’t help him survive if results don’t improve. Furthermore while Napoli is playing well, I yet feel that it’s a three way race between Napoli, Milan and Inter Milan and outside contenders to win the league are Roma and Juventus.

With Juventus' current condition it will be very difficult to say they are fine and Allegri is still doing very well there.
Allegri at the moment is quite a failure to build Juventus and the fact is that, regardless of how he was last season this was a differentiating factor because in fact for me he was finished at Juventus if the management was firm but because there are still some considerations he is still being retained. this actually makes Juventus worse. This condition is probably almost the same as Barcelona during the Koeman Era last season.

This season Juventus have included several players in the squad, but their performances have been weaker than before. Allegri is not doing well with the team. There is no bonding between team players. Allegri should try to stabilize the team by changing his match tactics. But he failed. Perhaps the Juventus management is now looking for a new coach.

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Udinese remains a dangerous and strong team. Inter Milan came in 0-1 but Udinese turned it around completely and at the end it was 3-1 on the scoreboard. There were a few favorites to win the league, but Inter and Juventus in particular have failed miserably. Now I'm sticking to Napoli or maybe Atalanta. For Napoli it would be a nice tribute to Maradona to become champion again. Atalanta has never been champion of Italy as far as I can remember, if they were to become champion it would of course be a huge stunt. Compact team with fun football. I have little faith in Juventus at the moment.

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Quote from: hahay on September 21, 2022, 06:26:26 AM

It's not very interesting because Udinese from season to season only struggles in the middle of the table, so it's natural that not many people consider him to be a competitor in the title race. But this season they started the season very well winning at home with a big score beating Roma 4-0 and Inter 3-1 it was an achievement, the next match Udinese will play against Verona which of course will also be full points for Udinese. After that, the competition for the top flight will happen again because Udinese will play at home against Atalanta, it is a match to fight for the second place in the standings, but if Napoli are not optimal then it will be a match to fight for the first place.

Udinese's competition at the top in my opinion will not last long, I believe Udinese's performance will decline as the league progresses even though until last week they were still able to maintain consistency. I'm not underestimating them, but a team like Udinese won't hold much promise for the title race. But their best record so far is beating Roma and also Inter, it will make their motivation even better for the next match.

For the next match, Udinese will still struggle to win some tough matches during this October. Atalanta and Lazio will definitely be strong opponents to test Udinese's consistency, so the fans will definitely be looking forward to it.

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Quote from: FanEagle on September 20, 2022, 04:12:50 PM

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Usually such statements are made in cases when the team is at war with the coach and, with poor results, is trying to get him fired. And I'm not saying that this is exactly the whole team, as we know there are always several groups within any team. It's a signal to them that Allegri is staying. Theoretically, such statements can put an end to disagreements in the team, but in practice, everything can happen the other way around.

Exactly what I was thinking. When the CEO says that they are happy with the manager that usually means they are not happy, because why would you have to go out and say you are happy when you already are, you don't have to say anything at all. This means that something must be wrong within the team and of course not so great results could be the reason.

However, I do not see any fault with the manager here, most of the players are injured and that is why they are not getting the ideal results, if the manager gets his players back from the injury and still ends up losing points then you could consider firing him, not before, because a new manager with these injury list would still lose points too.

The funny thing is that I remember (in the championship of my country) how, literally a couple of weeks after such statements, the coach was fired. I don't know if this will happen to Allegri (besides, now there is a break for national teams which gives everyone some pause to calm down), but anything can happen. In any case, Juventus are already very close to failing the season, and even despite the fact that competitors also show uncertain results, they are falling further and further behind the group of leaders.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on September 20, 2022, 10:39:33 PM

I feel that Juventus now needs to understand that it’s not working with Allegri, and maybe he’ll cite that last year Ronaldo left and this year Pogba is injured but I feel that these excuses won’t help him survive if results don’t improve. Furthermore while Napoli is playing well, I yet feel that it’s a three way race between Napoli, Milan and Inter Milan and outside contenders to win the league are Roma and Juventus.

With Juventus' current condition it will be very difficult to say they are fine and Allegri is still doing very well there.
Allegri at the moment is quite a failure to build Juventus and the fact is that, regardless of how he was last season this was a differentiating factor because in fact for me he was finished at Juventus if the management was firm but because there are still some considerations he is still being retained. this actually makes Juventus worse. This condition is probably almost the same as Barcelona during the Koeman Era last season.

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Could this be Napoli's time to shine for the Serie A title finally?

They have made the best start among all the big teams so far. Atalanta are sharing the points with them now maybe but Napoli have a more reliable performance currently. Napoli are able to show the same performance in not only this league but also the Champions League also. It isn't easy to keep this up for any team as it requires an extra effort to be successful in both tournaments. If Napoli see that they won't be able to deal with this at some point then I think their priority would be the Serie A for sure. Because they haven't been the champions since the 1989/90 season here.

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Quote from: Altryist on September 21, 2022, 09:15:43 AM

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About Atalanta since Gasperini arrived to this team on 2016 he has successfully changed Atalanta became one of the stable team in Serie A even without famous names although last season Atalanta has been slipped because finish at 8th position but before that Gasperini can bring this team finish at 3rd position on 3 seasons in a row so Atalanta isn't weak team anymore in Serie A so i am not surprising if this season they can compete in the top 4 but indeed the league is still far to ended and we will see their consistency whether they can managed their performance or not

Atalanta start this season in great condition again, but how long can they keep it up? Gasperini probably makes the same mistake when the team starts the season strongly and ends it very badly because the players do not last the whole season at this level. I don't know if this year can be indicative, because the team has only one task - Serie A, because due to a very poor game in the end of the last season, they were left without European cups.

like last season, Atalanta started well. like you said, they don't maintain the consistency of the game so they have to suffer the consequences.
if Atalanta has ambitions to win the Serie A trophy this season, I think one way to keep their game going is to take a big step when the next transfer window opens.
I want to see how Atalanta can maintain this good squad form, at least until the middle of the season. There are currently many strong teams competing.

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The red card is the main problem for Juventus in this match.
They actually played well at the start but indeed when Di Maria was sent off by the referee their game immediately changed and indeed that is very natural because 10 against 11 is obviously very difficult to do.
They only focus on defense and occasionally attack which makes this very difficult for them.
I won't blame Allegri in this match because it's very difficult to face a game with less players than the first half.

There is only one person to blame in this match. Di maria is not acceptable for such an experienced football player to make such a clumsy mistake. Juventus have already made a bad start, they should have acted thinking of this situation and acted like a complete amateur. They lost three points to the last placed team. Juventus is going through a really tough time with a part of the team injured. Looks like it's going to be tough in the coming weeks. They will play against Milan and Inter respectively. He actually started very unlucky at Di Maria. He made a good start and made 1 goal and 1 assist in the first week. After returning to the field, he was injured right after, and then sent out with a red card.

It was one of those actions that shouldn't have to be done, but in fact, if you look at the quality of the attack, Monza should be able to withstand the actual draw but Juventus' defense is definitely not very good. Check out the goals created by Monza players.
Christian ran so freely behind Gatti and scored goals there too.
Di Maria was wrong but the other players also seemed not to be free from mistakes.

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Quote from: bering on September 21, 2022, 07:39:25 AM

About Atalanta since Gasperini arrived to this team on 2016 he has successfully changed Atalanta became one of the stable team in Serie A even without famous names although last season Atalanta has been slipped because finish at 8th position but before that Gasperini can bring this team finish at 3rd position on 3 seasons in a row so Atalanta isn't weak team anymore in Serie A so i am not surprising if this season they can compete in the top 4 but indeed the league is still far to ended and we will see their consistency whether they can managed their performance or not

Atalanta start this season in great condition again, but how long can they keep it up? Gasperini probably makes the same mistake when the team starts the season strongly and ends it very badly because the players do not last the whole season at this level. I don't know if this year can be indicative, because the team has only one task - Serie A, because due to a very poor game in the end of the last season, they were left without European cups.

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Quote from: hahay on September 21, 2022, 06:26:26 AM

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at the moment the real revelation of this season: Udinese

I hadn't considered them at all, I didn't even follow their transfer campaign, but judging by how they play, they did everything very well

another competitor aiming for the cups, in my opinion

It's not very interesting because Udinese from season to season only struggles in the middle of the table, so it's natural that not many people consider him to be a competitor in the title race. But this season they started the season very well winning at home with a big score beating Roma 4-0 and Inter 3-1 it was an achievement, the next match Udinese will play against Verona which of course will also be full points for Udinese. After that, the competition for the top flight will happen again because Udinese will play at home against Atalanta, it is a match to fight for the second place in the standings, but if Napoli are not optimal then it will be a match to fight for the first place.

Udinese brilliant performance at the start of this season was very impressive, surprisingly Udinese managed to embarrass Roma and Inter with a promising score. Now Udinese are enjoying good times in third place standings, they are only one point adrift of Napoli and Atalanta who are ranked first and second. Udinese need to maintain their performance to continue to be in the top four because Serie A this season is very competitive.

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Quote from: bering on September 21, 2022, 07:39:25 AM

About Atalanta since Gasperini arrived to this team on 2016 he has successfully changed Atalanta became one of the stable team in Serie A even without famous names although last season Atalanta has been slipped because finish at 8th position but before that Gasperini can bring this team finish at 3rd position on 3 seasons in a row so Atalanta isn't weak team anymore in Serie A so i am not surprising if this season they can compete in the top 4 but indeed the league is still far to ended and we will see their consistency whether they can managed their performance or not

Yes, Atalanta so far have performed so mighty. Atalanta will of course be back to being the dark horse this season. The right policy in the transfer market is the key for them to be able to make a good start in Serie A. Atalanta retain coach Gian Pierro Gasperini, although last season's results were not good enough. But Gasperini got support in the transfer market, a number of key players were brought in. Atalanta bought Ademola Lookman from RB Leipzig.

Then there's Ederson, Rasmus Hojlund, and Brandon Soppy. Atalanta also made Jeremie Boga and Merih Demiral permanent. The new players collaborated beautifully with old faces such as Teun Koopmeiners, Marten de Roon, and Ruslan Malinovsyi. As a result, Atalanta appear solid and have never lost to date.

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Quote from: Awaklara on September 21, 2022, 01:22:43 AM

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Unbeaten until seven games with 5 won and 2 draw make Napoli dominance and lead first standing position awhile in Serie A, lately last won against with Milan make confidence for Napoli have chance to be candidate with scudetto. But no doubt almost every season Napoli is one team inconsistent performance until end season. Learned from what best achievement by Napoli almost closed with Serie A tittle but inconsistent performance at several end games last season in Serie A made dreaming Napoli to get trophy gone.

The points are the same as Atalanta 17 points it's just that Napoli scored more goals (15) conceded (5)
while the other top teams are out of the top 4 Inter, Juventus, Milan and Roma surprisingly all these teams haven't found their best performance yet especially Juventus have only won one match in the last 5 matches even though they have spent a lot of money in this transfer market.

surprisingly, it was Atalanta and Udinese. last year they didn't show that good performance. they didn't perform consistently until the end of the season. last season was still dominated by Milan and Inter.
but this season Atalanta and Udinese seem to be playing good games. I hope they can perform more consistently until the end of the season. because their mistake last season was inconsistent.
Serie A this season is more interesting. Lots of surprises from unexpected matches. Juventus seems to have difficulties in their squad. but points in the standings have only a small difference between the teams. there's still a lot of drama that could happen.

About Atalanta since Gasperini arrived to this team on 2016 he has successfully changed Atalanta became one of the stable team in Serie A even without famous names although last season Atalanta has been slipped because finish at 8th position but before that Gasperini can bring this team finish at 3rd position on 3 seasons in a row so Atalanta isn't weak team anymore in Serie A so i am not surprising if this season they can compete in the top 4 but indeed the league is still far to ended and we will see their consistency whether they can managed their performance or not

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Quote from: babo on September 21, 2022, 06:03:20 AM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on September 21, 2022, 02:12:59 AM

Udinese managed to bring in a new striker last July he is Beto Betuncal who has scored 4 goals and 3rd place on the top scorer list
there's also Gerard Deulofeu and Roberto Pereyra as the player with the most assist , the contribution of these two players can improve Udinese's performance able to survive in the top 3 , but I doubt they will be there until the end of the season.

at the moment the real revelation of this season: Udinese

I hadn't considered them at all, I didn't even follow their transfer campaign, but judging by how they play, they did everything very well

another competitor aiming for the cups, in my opinion

It's not very interesting because Udinese from season to season only struggles in the middle of the table, so it's natural that not many people consider him to be a competitor in the title race. But this season they started the season very well winning at home with a big score beating Roma 4-0 and Inter 3-1 it was an achievement, the next match Udinese will play against Verona which of course will also be full points for Udinese. After that, the competition for the top flight will happen again because Udinese will play at home against Atalanta, it is a match to fight for the second place in the standings, but if Napoli are not optimal then it will be a match to fight for the first place.

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