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Quote from: masulum on October 19, 2021, 07:45:38 AM

The Derby D'Italia (Inter - Juve) will be an interesting match. Juventus who are on fire will face a team who are trying to keep their chances of winning Serie A this season with their new coach. As for Juventus, the victory against Roma, is still not enough to shift Lazio's position because they lost the match. Victory over Inter will open up opportunities for Juventus to be in 3rd place in the standings, If Roma, Atalanta, Lazio failed to get 3 points.

Currently both teams are in good form and in high spirits both in the UCL and in Serie A when looking at the statistics for the last 5 matches, it seems that Juventus are more favored by successfully winning 4 consecutive wins compared to Inter who in the last match tripped up by Lazio.
but the problem is that player rotation must really be carried out to maximize player performance because for now their schedule is quite tight.

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Quote from: masulum on October 19, 2021, 07:45:38 AM

The Derby D'Italia (Inter - Juve) will be an interesting match. Juventus who are on fire will face a team who are trying to keep their chances of winning Serie A this season with their new coach. As for Juventus, the victory against Roma, is still not enough to shift Lazio's position because they lost the match. Victory over Inter will open up opportunities for Juventus to be in 3rd place in the standings, If Roma, Atalanta, Lazio failed to get 3 points.

Interesting game, they both have a solid schedule. But Inter are superior by one day of rest. In addition, Juve must come to Zenit's cage to play UCL matches. It looks like Inter are superior in physical terms because they have a lot of rest time. Then the INter vs Juve match will be played at Inter's home, an added advantage for inter. For Juve they are in the development stage, their game already looks good. Although I think against Inter is a tough opponent, maybe a good draw for Juventus.

Juventus have found back their form after a horrible start to the season and Inter has been a title contender from the start of the season. This will be one exciting match, maybe the most exciting match of the week. I wonder if Dybala and Morata both will be fit for the match. This one will be a very important match for both Inter and Juve. Inter will want to make their title run alive and Juve would want to join the title run with this win.

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Quote from: DanWalker on October 21, 2021, 01:01:56 PM

@ leea-1334 I like that AC Milan has recovered from their worst days. Even a few seasons back, people considered them dead. But to everyone's surprise, they are back from the dead. I wouldn't say that they will decay once again very soon. They are getting better season by season and I'm optimistic that they will keep getting better. Maybe a title run within the next few seasons? Why not.

This season Milan actually has the opportunity to end their title drought after the last time they won the Scudetto in 2011, especially now that the Milan squad is quite solid and it is proven that they have not lost at all in the league, last season Milan actually played quite well and even they been ranked 1 in the standings last season, but unfortunately player injuries made them have to end up in second place at the end of the 2021 season, the condition of milan so far is almost the same as liverpool which failed to win for several years but finally they got back up, I think milan could be repeat their glory in Serie A and champions league this season if they are really consistent in playing.
This season is AC Milan first season in the Champions League after being absent for 7 seasons.

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@ leea-1334 I like that AC Milan has recovered from their worst days. Even a few seasons back, people considered them dead. But to everyone's surprise, they are back from the dead. I wouldn't say that they will decay once again very soon. They are getting better season by season and I'm optimistic that they will keep getting better. Maybe a title run within the next few seasons? Why not.

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It has been more competitive than "normal"actually since about 4 years ago with the rise of Napoli and attacking football,,, and AC Milan coming back from the ground, and even to look at teams like Sassuolo and Roma where actually Salah also began his rise.
I wish I followed it more carefully from there but now to watch them play is quite interesting too.
Hope to see a Leicester there one day!

Italy was not so long ago considered the Juventus-League only. But things have changed within a very shoprt period of time. We are seeing the rise of AC Milan from the dead and Inter and Roma are also gradually playing well. And nothing to say about Napoli, they have been phenomenal this season. I kind of regret not following Italian League so much last 2 or 3 seasons.

Kinda of like how England used to be Manchester United and Liverpool,,, but yes over the years the shape has changed a lot and made it much more diverse, which for me is always good.

AC Milan going back up is nice but I think they have to be careful they make it a sustainable rise to the top rather than to win a league once and then be done. Me too regret not following much but now it is so,,, beautiful to see:)

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Quote from: masulum on October 19, 2021, 07:45:38 AM

The Derby D'Italia (Inter - Juve) will be an interesting match. Juventus who are on fire will face a team who are trying to keep their chances of winning Serie A this season with their new coach. As for Juventus, the victory against Roma, is still not enough to shift Lazio's position because they lost the match. Victory over Inter will open up opportunities for Juventus to be in 3rd place in the standings, If Roma, Atalanta, Lazio failed to get 3 points.

Interesting game, they both have a solid schedule. But Inter are superior by one day of rest. In addition, Juve must come to Zenit's cage to play UCL matches. It looks like Inter are superior in physical terms because they have a lot of rest time. Then the INter vs Juve match will be played at Inter's home, an added advantage for inter. For Juve they are in the development stage, their game already looks good. Although I think against Inter is a tough opponent, maybe a good draw for Juventus.

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Consistency of not losing is still not as good as consistency at winning but losing every now and then. Just like Juventus almost every season. They can lose 3 or 4 games but win the majority of the rest. 2 wins and 2 losses is still 50% better points than 4 draws Wink

Considering how they have started the season I hope they can be consistent throughout the season. Italian league this season has been very competitive with the likes of teams like Roma, Napoli, Inter, Lazio playing very well. Even Juventus after starting the season badly have found their rhythm back. So if Napoli coach tries to progress match by match and if they can win the away games against the big 4 or 5 teams, not all of them but if they can win the majority of them, they might have a chance to be the titleholder.

It has been more competitive than "normal"actually since about 4 years ago with the rise of Napoli and attacking football,,, and AC Milan coming back from the ground, and even to look at teams like Sassuolo and Roma where actually Salah also began his rise.
I wish I followed it more carefully from there but now to watch them play is quite interesting too.
Hope to see a Leicester there one day!

Italy was not so long ago considered the Juventus-League only. But things have changed within a very shoprt period of time. We are seeing the rise of AC Milan from the dead and Inter and Roma are also gradually playing well. And nothing to say about Napoli, they have been phenomenal this season. I kind of regret not following Italian League so much last 2 or 3 seasons.

Quote from: babo on October 20, 2021, 01:18:28 PM

they can do it in my opinion
in the end it's a great team and I really like how to play
yes Juventus is finding the rhythm, but still in my opinion it is far from performing as it should
I keep seeing it wobbly

Juventus started the season very badly, But though they seem to have recovered from that, but you know, still they are 10 points behind Napoli. From what I have seen so far, Italian league will be very competitive this season and Napoli having a very good start will give them a huge confidence in winning the title.

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Quote from: masulum on October 21, 2021, 08:49:11 AM

Don't need to have a lot of star players to be champions. This has been proven in various clubs. Madrid have a lot of star players, but they also feel they can't win. Leicester, when they won the EPL title, who would have thought they could win this trophy, since they don't have star players, but they have solid team and strategy. What matters is how solid the team plays, the coach's strategy for the players and the focus of the players during the game. This is another factor besides the title of star player in a team. As long as they are able to play in attack and defend well, winning is not a dream.

exactly
greece also won a european, playing as a team (and totally missing the champions)
being a team game, the team that is most amalgamated wins

ok, the champion's stroke of genius can happen and it changes the game, but it doesn't always happen

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Quote from: masulum on October 20, 2021, 08:44:12 AM

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I think this season a solid defense is the key for Napoli game so that they can continue to achieve positive results, but will they be able to maintain that record if they later meet big teams? Of course it will be worth it for us to wait how far Napoli's winning record can last this season.

Unfortunately, Napoli for now, couldn't perform well in the Europa League, they only got 1 point from 2 matches. Maybe Napoli are not targeting UEL, and prefer to more focus on doing their best in Serie A to keep their chances of staying in 1st place at least until mid season. In the winter transfer market, they will probably focus on increasing their defence strength in order to stay consistent until they get Scudetto.

A poor result in the Europa League for Napoli and it is very difficult to challenge with one point Napoli are still fighting to win if they want to qualify, otherwise, it will lose for the Europa League title.
But it's also true that Napoli will focus more on Serie A which they are showing at the moment which is quite impressive because they are still unbeaten meaning they still have strong strength in their squad in Serie A so they will be more focused on their domestic trophies.

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Napoli have played perfectly in Serie A, played 8 times and won 8 wins. But indeed, when Napoli played in the Europa League like a different team,
they struggled to win. Maybe winning the Europa League is not Napoli's main target. After all, the depth of Napoli's squad is not as good as other
big teams in Serie A. So Napoli have to choose between the Serie A and Europa League competitions, to be able to play well in the two competitions,
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Don't need to have a lot of star players to be champions. This has been proven in various clubs. Madrid have a lot of star players, but they also feel they can't win. Leicester, when they won the EPL title, who would have thought they could win this trophy, since they don't have star players, but they have solid team and strategy. What matters is how solid the team plays, the coach's strategy for the players and the focus of the players during the game. This is another factor besides the title of star player in a team. As long as they are able to play in attack and defend well, winning is not a dream.

Yes, when Leicester won the title, it made a lot of big fans of the big teams astonished.
What makes Leicester so strong I believe is precisely the absence of such a prominent and dominating star player.
players focus on the coach's strategy and instructions. and they continued to play consistently throughout the season. that is the core of teamwork that gets positive results.
while sometimes the presence of star players has a bad impact on team play. and sometimes it also destroys the strategy the coach has devised.

I guess everything has its pluses and minuses. depending on how the coach makes the teamwork together to create a good and consistent game.

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on October 20, 2021, 09:41:07 AM

Napoli have played perfectly in Serie A, played 8 times and won 8 wins. But indeed, when Napoli played in the Europa League like a different team,
they struggled to win. Maybe winning the Europa League is not Napoli's main target. After all, the depth of Napoli's squad is not as good as other
big teams in Serie A. So Napoli have to choose between the Serie A and Europa League competitions, to be able to play well in the two competitions,
-snip-

Don't need to have a lot of star players to be champions. This has been proven in various clubs. Madrid have a lot of star players, but they also feel they can't win. Leicester, when they won the EPL title, who would have thought they could win this trophy, since they don't have star players, but they have solid team and strategy. What matters is how solid the team plays, the coach's strategy for the players and the focus of the players during the game. This is another factor besides the title of star player in a team. As long as they are able to play in attack and defend well, winning is not a dream.

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I personally don't believe Napoli will be able to be consistent until the end but indeed, their unbeaten run so far is something very impressive. I believe when the team is on fire and can at least show consistency, at least Napoli should be able to show good results in different tournaments. But the fact is, Napoli still doesn't look good in the EL tournament which I think the imperfect result is still very possible for him to receive in Serie A in the next few matches. Because of the last match yesterday against Torino, the fact is that the victory that Napoli won did not come easily and I am sure that when Napoli will play against a stronger team, maybe a draw and defeat will come soon.

Nobody is consistent until the end, every team, even champions, have not so great stretches. Napoli started awesome and they are looking great, I would say that they have a chance to win the league as much as any other team and this is proven right now with the way they are going. Sure, they will have some losses and they will have some bad games, nobody denies that and we are going to face those games for sure, however that doesn't mean that they are not going to have any type of success neither, just because you have some bad losses here and there doesn't mean you will lose the league.
I do not remember the last time someone won the league without any losses, it is clear that teams do have big losses while still becoming champions. Napoli will be fine, it will take some time for them to get used to being at the top so they may get excited at times but I believe they have a chance to win it all.

Well, I guess your points are valid, but what has to be said is that the balance which Napoli currently brings onto the pitch is really mind boggling. It is not that they only won their first 8 games, it is also that they have scored 19:3 goals, making it plus 2.15 goals per game compared to their opponents. That is pretty insane after 8 games.
I even believe that it is helpful for them to have Ac Milan right behind them, performing amazing as well. That gives them the feeling that there is no relaxing allowed now at all. I believe Napoli will probably keep up that level for a good while. It also depends on unlucky moments, red cards losing them players for games, injuries and stuff like that.

Right, Napoli is looking fierce both on the pitch and on the table. They have only conceded 3 times in their 8 matches and scored 19. They have won every single game they played so far in the league and so far I think only Inter will be able to challenge them as they are only 2 points behind Napoli. But if you just ignore the stats, they have been playing very well as a team which is very important in a team-oriented game like football. So I'd say, from what I have seen so far, Napoli seems like a strong contender for the league title.

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Quote from: DanWalker on October 20, 2021, 12:48:40 PM

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Consistency of not losing is still not as good as consistency at winning but losing every now and then. Just like Juventus almost every season. They can lose 3 or 4 games but win the majority of the rest. 2 wins and 2 losses is still 50% better points than 4 draws Wink

Considering how they have started the season I hope they can be consistent throughout the season. Italian league this season has been very competitive with the likes of teams like Roma, Napoli, Inter, Lazio playing very well. Even Juventus after starting the season badly have found their rhythm back. So if Napoli coach tries to progress match by match and if they can win the away games against the big 4 or 5 teams, not all of them but if they can win the majority of them, they might have a chance to be the titleholder.

It has been more competitive than "normal"actually since about 4 years ago with the rise of Napoli and attacking football,,, and AC Milan coming back from the ground, and even to look at teams like Sassuolo and Roma where actually Salah also began his rise.

I wish I followed it more carefully from there but now to watch them play is quite interesting too.

Hope to see a Leicester there one day!

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I personally don't believe Napoli will be able to be consistent until the end but indeed, their unbeaten run so far is something very impressive. I believe when the team is on fire and can at least show consistency, at least Napoli should be able to show good results in different tournaments. But the fact is, Napoli still doesn't look good in the EL tournament which I think the imperfect result is still very possible for him to receive in Serie A in the next few matches. Because of the last match yesterday against Torino, the fact is that the victory that Napoli won did not come easily and I am sure that when Napoli will play against a stronger team, maybe a draw and defeat will come soon.

Nobody is consistent until the end, every team, even champions, have not so great stretches. Napoli started awesome and they are looking great, I would say that they have a chance to win the league as much as any other team and this is proven right now with the way they are going. Sure, they will have some losses and they will have some bad games, nobody denies that and we are going to face those games for sure, however that doesn't mean that they are not going to have any type of success neither, just because you have some bad losses here and there doesn't mean you will lose the league.

I do not remember the last time someone won the league without any losses, it is clear that teams do have big losses while still becoming champions. Napoli will be fine, it will take some time for them to get used to being at the top so they may get excited at times but I believe they have a chance to win it all.

Well, I guess your points are valid, but what has to be said is that the balance which Napoli currently brings onto the pitch is really mind boggling. It is not that they only won their first 8 games, it is also that they have scored 19:3 goals, making it plus 2.15 goals per game compared to their opponents. That is pretty insane after 8 games.

I even believe that it is helpful for them to have Ac Milan right behind them, performing amazing as well. That gives them the feeling that there is no relaxing allowed now at all. I believe Napoli will probably keep up that level for a good while. It also depends on unlucky moments, red cards losing them players for games, injuries and stuff like that.

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Unfortunately, Napoli for now, couldn't perform well in the Europa League, they only got 1 point from 2 matches. Maybe Napoli are not targeting UEL, and prefer to more focus on doing their best in Serie A to keep their chances of staying in 1st place at least until mid season. In the winter transfer market, they will probably focus on increasing their defence strength in order to stay consistent until they get Scudetto.

Napoli have played perfectly in Serie A, played 8 times and won 8 wins. But indeed, when Napoli played in the Europa League like a different team,
they struggled to win. Maybe winning the Europa League is not Napoli's main target. After all, the depth of Napoli's squad is not as good as other
big teams in Serie A. So Napoli have to choose between the Serie A and Europa League competitions, to be able to play well in the two competitions,
Napoli must bring in more players. It is likely that when the transfer window opens, Napoli will bring in at least two new players. Not only the defense
that must be strengthened, Napoli also need to strengthen their midfield. I think Napoli need to bring in a midfielder who is creative, can provide
more assists for Napoli's forwards.

Yes, that's right, it looks very clear the difference in Napoli performance in Serie A with their performance in European competition at this time, even though if we look at the quality of the Napoli squad and the squads of other teams in Group C it is not too much different and maybe only Leicester have the quality squad above napoli, I don't know what caused that to happen, but if indeed they are only targeting the Scudetto this season, why do they continue to field the main squad when competing in European leagues?
Could Napoli have European stage fright right now?

This is what makes me a little confused too, they fielded the first squad when they played in the Europa League, but they were very difficult to win.
If facing Leicester ends in a draw I can understand, because Leicester have quite good quality players. But losing against Spartak is
a little incomprehensible, because after all the squad that Napoli has is much better than Spartak. Maybe your guess is right, Napoli experienced
stage fright when playing in the Europa League. We can see how Napoli play when they face Legia in the Europa League, if Napoli still doesn't win
by fielding the main squad, looks like Napoli has stage fright. If Napoli lose to Legia, Napoli's chances of qualifying for the next round will also be lost.

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Quote from: hahay on October 20, 2021, 02:54:33 AM

I personally don't believe Napoli will be able to be consistent until the end but indeed, their unbeaten run so far is something very impressive. I believe when the team is on fire and can at least show consistency, at least Napoli should be able to show good results in different tournaments. But the fact is, Napoli still doesn't look good in the EL tournament which I think the imperfect result is still very possible for him to receive in Serie A in the next few matches. Because of the last match yesterday against Torino, the fact is that the victory that Napoli won did not come easily and I am sure that when Napoli will play against a stronger team, maybe a draw and defeat will come soon.

Nobody is consistent until the end, every team, even champions, have not so great stretches. Napoli started awesome and they are looking great, I would say that they have a chance to win the league as much as any other team and this is proven right now with the way they are going. Sure, they will have some losses and they will have some bad games, nobody denies that and we are going to face those games for sure, however that doesn't mean that they are not going to have any type of success neither, just because you have some bad losses here and there doesn't mean you will lose the league.

I do not remember the last time someone won the league without any losses, it is clear that teams do have big losses while still becoming champions. Napoli will be fine, it will take some time for them to get used to being at the top so they may get excited at times but I believe they have a chance to win it all.

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Quote from: DanWalker on October 20, 2021, 12:48:40 PM

Considering how they have started the season I hope they can be consistent throughout the season. Italian league this season has been very competitive with the likes of teams like Roma, Napoli, Inter, Lazio playing very well. Even Juventus after starting the season badly have found their rhythm back. So if Napoli coach tries to progress match by match and if they can win the away games against the big 4 or 5 teams, not all of them but if they can win the majority of them, they might have a chance to be the titleholder.

they can do it in my opinion
in the end it's a great team and I really like how to play

yes Juventus is finding the rhythm, but still in my opinion it is far from performing as it should
I keep seeing it wobbly

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Let us wait and see them beat a few top teams first and talk again in January however!

I personally don't believe Napoli will be able to be consistent until the end but indeed, their unbeaten run so far is something very impressive. I believe when the team is on fire and can at least show consistency, at least Napoli should be able to show good results in different tournaments. But the fact is, Napoli still doesn't look good in the EL tournament which I think the imperfect result is still very possible for him to receive in Serie A in the next few matches. Because of the last match yesterday against Torino, the fact is that the victory that Napoli won did not come easily and I am sure that when Napoli will play against a stronger team, maybe a draw and defeat will come soon.

Looking at how early all the big teams lost their first game,,, yes, impressive, but counting that it is only 25% into the season, it is expected that 1 or 2 good teams should still get away without a loss.
Consistency of not losing is still not as good as consistency at winning but losing every now and then. Just like Juventus almost every season. They can lose 3 or 4 games but win the majority of the rest. 2 wins and 2 losses is still 50% better points than 4 draws Wink

Considering how they have started the season I hope they can be consistent throughout the season. Italian league this season has been very competitive with the likes of teams like Roma, Napoli, Inter, Lazio playing very well. Even Juventus after starting the season badly have found their rhythm back. So if Napoli coach tries to progress match by match and if they can win the away games against the big 4 or 5 teams, not all of them but if they can win the majority of them, they might have a chance to be the titleholder.

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Quote from: poldanmig on October 20, 2021, 08:00:50 AM

I think this season a solid defense is the key for Napoli game so that they can continue to achieve positive results, but will they be able to maintain that record if they later meet big teams? Of course it will be worth it for us to wait how far Napoli's winning record can last this season.

Unfortunately, Napoli for now, couldn't perform well in the Europa League, they only got 1 point from 2 matches. Maybe Napoli are not targeting UEL, and prefer to more focus on doing their best in Serie A to keep their chances of staying in 1st place at least until mid season. In the winter transfer market, they will probably focus on increasing their defence strength in order to stay consistent until they get Scudetto.

Napoli have played perfectly in Serie A, played 8 times and won 8 wins. But indeed, when Napoli played in the Europa League like a different team,
they struggled to win. Maybe winning the Europa League is not Napoli's main target. After all, the depth of Napoli's squad is not as good as other
big teams in Serie A. So Napoli have to choose between the Serie A and Europa League competitions, to be able to play well in the two competitions,
Napoli must bring in more players. It is likely that when the transfer window opens, Napoli will bring in at least two new players. Not only the defense
that must be strengthened, Napoli also need to strengthen their midfield. I think Napoli need to bring in a midfielder who is creative, can provide
more assists for Napoli's forwards.

Yes, that's right, it looks very clear the difference in Napoli performance in Serie A with their performance in European competition at this time, even though if we look at the quality of the Napoli squad and the squads of other teams in Group C it is not too much different and maybe only Leicester have the quality squad above napoli, I don't know what caused that to happen, but if indeed they are only targeting the Scudetto this season, why do they continue to field the main squad when competing in European leagues?
Could Napoli have European stage fright right now?

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Quote from: DU18 on October 19, 2021, 06:24:06 AM

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But despite all the controversy, Juventus should be proud of the achievement of 3 points in the match.

It happens on 80% of penalties but when there is Juventus involved it will a bigger thing.

Juventus is the biggest clickbait here.

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