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Quote from: jakdanyel on August 25, 2021, 02:25:36 PM

Quote from: acquafredda on August 24, 2021, 06:16:59 AM

These are very hot hours for Juventus regarding the future of Cristiano Ronaldo. After his debut on the bench on the occasion of Udinese-Juventus, CR7 wants to leave Juve IMO. As reported by Fantacalcio.it, Bianconeri ask at least 25 million euros to let the player leave, a figure that would interest Pep Guardiola's Manchester City.
Another reason for that is That if the Kane deal does not complete, the last minute Ronaldo opportunity could arise for the citizens: Gabriel Jesus could also be included to accelerate the operation.

https://twitter.com/HKane/status/1430496495225262084?s=20

Harry Kane is staying. He tweeted this.

So, I wonder whether Manchester City would be able to sign Cristiano Ronaldo on the last week of the transfer window. But €25m is a really bad offer I think. I don't wait for Juventus to sell him for that amount. His market value is €45m now. Let's see whether City will manage to end the deal.

If indeed the cost of buying ronaldo now is only around 42 million pounds, of course that is a fairly cheap price for manchester city compared to the purchase price of harry kane, even though now ronaldo is not young anymore, but his stamina and game performance is still very good as a world best striker.
In the last few days, Manchester City has been rumored to be one of the main candidates to get Ronaldo's signature, because currently Manchester City are still looking for a mainstay striker after the opportunity to sign Harry Kane this season could not be realized.

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Quote from: hd49728 on August 25, 2021, 12:26:19 PM

Agree and AC Milan need to prepare it as best as possible. They got luck with the return of Ibra but for long future, they will need a great and younger striker who they are not found in this summer. Ante Rebic is no longer young and he is not a striker for Milan future plan.

AC Milan now can only look for players who are not too expensive on the market.

AC Milan has seen a shortage in the striker position, last season they brought in Mandzukic (unfortunately not effective), this season they brought in Giroud, it's true that Milan need young players, but it seems Milan's financial problems are preventing them from buying talented young players who certainly have a higher price. Maldini & Pellegri are the names of the young strikers who are at Milan atm, but for now it still takes time for them to become great players.

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Quote from: AndySt on August 25, 2021, 07:52:03 PM

If Juventus really wanted Ronaldo to stay, they would have offered a contract extension in a year, but it so happened that Juventus did not do this and pushed the player and agent to look for other options. I perfectly understand Ronaldo, who would like a clear offer to continue his career in the next two years and Paris Saint-Germain seems to be ready to make such an offer. Juventus is no longer as ambitious as it looked a few years ago when the signing of the contract with Ronaldo took place and it seems that the club will be quite satisfied with the return of the Italian champion title as a goal for this season, and not winning the title of the winner of the Champions League.

the Ronaldo operation was just a marketing operation
Juventus with Ronaldo earned (and not lost money) simply now keeping him would only be a cost and not a gain

Juventus has always reasoned like this

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These are very hot hours for Juventus regarding the future of Cristiano Ronaldo. After his debut on the bench on the occasion of Udinese-Juventus, CR7 wants to leave Juve IMO. As reported by Fantacalcio.it, Bianconeri ask at least 25 million euros to let the player leave, a figure that would interest Pep Guardiola's Manchester City.
Another reason for that is That if the Kane deal does not complete, the last minute Ronaldo opportunity could arise for the citizens: Gabriel Jesus could also be included to accelerate the operation.

https://twitter.com/HKane/status/1430496495225262084?s=20

Harry Kane is staying. He tweeted this.

So, I wonder whether Manchester City would be able to sign Cristiano Ronaldo on the last week of the transfer window. But €25m is a really bad offer I think. I don't wait for Juventus to sell him for that amount. His market value is €45m now. Let's see whether City will manage to end the deal.

Yeah I read that and find it logic. Spurs won vs City and Wolves, they are trying to compete for the first places, his team isn't willing to let him go that easily, so yeah he will try his shot this year.
For CR7, Juve want to get ride of his salary and he wants to leave although in public it is said that he want to continue there and Juve want him to stay. Now it is his opportunity to try his luck in City which seems trying to get him for free, but honestly €25m is cheap for City and is satisfying Juve which wouldn't let him go for free like that after spending a fortune on him.

If Juventus really wanted Ronaldo to stay, they would have offered a contract extension in a year, but it so happened that Juventus did not do this and pushed the player and agent to look for other options. I perfectly understand Ronaldo, who would like a clear offer to continue his career in the next two years and Paris Saint-Germain seems to be ready to make such an offer. Juventus is no longer as ambitious as it looked a few years ago when the signing of the contract with Ronaldo took place and it seems that the club will be quite satisfied with the return of the Italian champion title as a goal for this season, and not winning the title of the winner of the Champions League.

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Quote from: snipie on August 25, 2021, 04:24:59 PM

Yeah I read that and find it logic. Spurs won vs City and Wolves, they are trying to compete for the first places, his team isn't willing to let him go that easily, so yeah he will try his shot this year.
For CR7, Juve want to get ride of his salary and he wants to leave although in public it is said that he want to continue there and Juve want him to stay. Now it is his opportunity to try his luck in City which seems trying to get him for free, but honestly €25m is cheap for City and is satisfying Juve which wouldn't let him go for free like that after spending a fortune on him.

30 not 25 but Juventus also need to have a striker and we are missing only 5 days in this market session.
Do you think they can find anyone in this short term?

we will see but It seems hard to me.

I don't think that Manchester City can find an alternative to Cristiano Ronaldo in such a short time. I would like to say Haaland but there is no way he is leaving in this transfer window as it seems. Lukaku has been signed by Chelsea also. I would say maybe Lewandowski but I don't think that he would also like to leave Bayern now.

So they should increase their effort to be able to sign Ronaldo. His transfer fee is not much for them. And I believe that he is definitely worth it. He is still playing great.

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Quote from: snipie on August 25, 2021, 04:24:59 PM

Yeah I read that and find it logic. Spurs won vs City and Wolves, they are trying to compete for the first places, his team isn't willing to let him go that easily, so yeah he will try his shot this year.
For CR7, Juve want to get ride of his salary and he wants to leave although in public it is said that he want to continue there and Juve want him to stay. Now it is his opportunity to try his luck in City which seems trying to get him for free, but honestly €25m is cheap for City and is satisfying Juve which wouldn't let him go for free like that after spending a fortune on him.

30 not 25 but Juventus also need to have a striker and we are missing only 5 days in this market session.
Do you think they can find anyone in this short term?

we will see but It seems hard to me.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on August 25, 2021, 02:25:36 PM

Quote from: acquafredda on August 24, 2021, 06:16:59 AM

These are very hot hours for Juventus regarding the future of Cristiano Ronaldo. After his debut on the bench on the occasion of Udinese-Juventus, CR7 wants to leave Juve IMO. As reported by Fantacalcio.it, Bianconeri ask at least 25 million euros to let the player leave, a figure that would interest Pep Guardiola's Manchester City.
Another reason for that is That if the Kane deal does not complete, the last minute Ronaldo opportunity could arise for the citizens: Gabriel Jesus could also be included to accelerate the operation.

https://twitter.com/HKane/status/1430496495225262084?s=20

Harry Kane is staying. He tweeted this.

So, I wonder whether Manchester City would be able to sign Cristiano Ronaldo on the last week of the transfer window. But €25m is a really bad offer I think. I don't wait for Juventus to sell him for that amount. His market value is €45m now. Let's see whether City will manage to end the deal.

Yeah I read that and find it logic. Spurs won vs City and Wolves, they are trying to compete for the first places, his team isn't willing to let him go that easily, so yeah he will try his shot this year.
For CR7, Juve want to get ride of his salary and he wants to leave although in public it is said that he want to continue there and Juve want him to stay. Now it is his opportunity to try his luck in City which seems trying to get him for free, but honestly €25m is cheap for City and is satisfying Juve which wouldn't let him go for free like that after spending a fortune on him.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 25, 2021, 02:17:53 AM

Quote from: Kusman on August 24, 2021, 03:54:09 PM

After obliterating Genoa 4-0, the next opponent of Inter is Verona. And I would like to add that it is an away match. Verona made Sassuolo some difficulties in their first match of the season. But Sassuolo still managed to win it 3-2. And when it comes to the head-to-head matches, I see that Inter are pretty dominant against them. In their last match, Inter beat them 2-1 here. There is nothing holding Inter back from winning here again. And I believe that they will manage to do so.

I don't see the possibility of Inter Milan losing any points against Hellas Verona. My guess is that Inter will be able to win this match by 3-1 goals. Still, it's hard to predict about Verona. They suddenly make outstanding performances in any match. However, my bet in this match is in favor of Inter's victory.

I do not believe that Inter is as good as you guys think they are. Don't get me wrong they are also not bad, they are definitely good, just not as good as you think they are. Just because they won 4-0 doesn't mean that suddenly they are as good as last year, they are way worse than they were last year, they just had some lucky situations with a few transfers but that's about it. I believe they may end up winning against Verona because that is not a good team at all, and inter is better than that for sure.

However these are not the proof of them being championship contender neither. There are no clear teams that will win the league right now, no team at the top has proven to (at least to me) everyone that they are clearly better than everyone else, of course there is a good chance we may get shocked with the results in the future weeks and who will be on top.

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Quote from: acquafredda on August 24, 2021, 06:16:59 AM

These are very hot hours for Juventus regarding the future of Cristiano Ronaldo. After his debut on the bench on the occasion of Udinese-Juventus, CR7 wants to leave Juve IMO. As reported by Fantacalcio.it, Bianconeri ask at least 25 million euros to let the player leave, a figure that would interest Pep Guardiola's Manchester City.
Another reason for that is That if the Kane deal does not complete, the last minute Ronaldo opportunity could arise for the citizens: Gabriel Jesus could also be included to accelerate the operation.

https://twitter.com/HKane/status/1430496495225262084?s=20

Harry Kane is staying. He tweeted this.

So, I wonder whether Manchester City would be able to sign Cristiano Ronaldo on the last week of the transfer window. But €25m is a really bad offer I think. I don't wait for Juventus to sell him for that amount. His market value is €45m now. Let's see whether City will manage to end the deal.

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24M is very cheap price for Ronaldo because he can provide more than 20 to 30 goals a season. He is old but can score more goals than many younger strikers who have more expensive price. However, problem will mainly come from his salary. In pandemic chaotic, clubs will not readily to pay too high salary for new players. And as said, Ronaldo is old.

25m ish is the price they need to be even for the capital loss and the financial fair play since you know no one is like PSG and they can violate the FFP.

Anyway, I don't think he will go anywhere. The exultation for the goal (invalidated later) on Saturday speak for itself.

Ronaldo's agent had offered it but Manchester City didn't look at it wholeheartedly it seems that Pep Guardiola still wants the Harry Kane he wants, while Ronaldo is old and only has a few seasons left on the pitch maybe that will be a factor.
Maybe it is offered now because next season does not want to be a free transfer player so this is cheaper than what we imagine from the offer, is this still worth it and will Ronaldo be the top scorer again if he moves to Manchester?

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When talking about Cristiano Ronaldo's possible farewell to Juventus, one must start from two assumptions: the player's desire to leave and the club's desire to get rid of the Portuguese's salary. Win-win.
CR7 is currently bound to the Bianconeri by a contract until June 30, 2022 for a salary of 30 million net per season. Juventus could thus settle for about 30 million which is a figure that would allow them not to record a capital loss in the budget.
If the cost of the card does not seem so high, the obstacle remains his salary. At the moment, only two clubs in Europe could guarantee the same salary to Cristiano Ronaldo: PSG and Manchester City.

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Quote from: AakZaki on August 24, 2021, 03:44:45 PM

Even though I was very enthusiastic about the goal. But ah now that I hate a bit, football technology. Yes, when viewed from two sides, it is profitable and detrimental, but in the end it doesn't matter. Of course not just you but all the fans, after such a phenomenal celebration and the emotional requirement of the goal being cancelled. It's sad, yes there will still be many matches, of course Juve must immediately improve for the next match.

Maybe the fact that Juventus did not win is also positive, the team will be able to conclude that the referees are not on their side and will not help them in controversial moments. You need to play so as not to leave your opponent a chance. I will repeat myself, but Juventus needs a more reliable goalkeeper, I didn’t like the Szczensnykh before, but now I see that he makes terrible mistakes, the first goal is his fault, he hit the ball in front of him, and jumped in the opponent’s feet, the second goal, it is purely his fault.

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Quote from: hd49728 on August 24, 2021, 11:59:23 AM

It's too early to say about where Roma will end in this season.

I'll say it, at least top three Grin

I think Mourinho works best with this kind of team, solid teamwork, without popular star players = no drama.
The last two teams he coached just had too much ego, this one I think will work.

Inter lost Lukaku, Juve lost Ronaldo, I think Roma has good chance to beat them :v

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 24, 2021, 03:17:57 PM

Ibra is a great player. It is unbelievable that he is performing at this age. I have seen many athletes feel old at this age. But Ibra is still doing great.

Ibra beats all rules of ageing and what he achieves in his career is unbelievable. What he achieves in AC Milan in the last 2 years is amazing.

Ibra, Ronaldo and Messi are the most amazing players in the past 3 decades and they are gifts for us to enjoy the beauty of football. Ibra will retire, then Ronaldo and Messi. We will have to wait many more years to see other great players like them.

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However, he can never be considered the main striker of the team. The older he gets, He is more likely to be injured. So his replacement is definitely needed.

Agree and AC Milan need to prepare it as best as possible. They got luck with the return of Ibra but for long future, they will need a great and younger striker who they are not found in this summer. Ante Rebic is no longer young and he is not a striker for Milan future plan.

AC Milan now can only look for players who are not too expensive on the market.

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Quote from: Kusman on August 24, 2021, 03:54:09 PM

After obliterating Genoa 4-0, the next opponent of Inter is Verona. And I would like to add that it is an away match. Verona made Sassuolo some difficulties in their first match of the season. But Sassuolo still managed to win it 3-2. And when it comes to the head-to-head matches, I see that Inter are pretty dominant against them. In their last match, Inter beat them 2-1 here. There is nothing holding Inter back from winning here again. And I believe that they will manage to do so.

I don't see the possibility of Inter Milan losing any points against Hellas Verona. My guess is that Inter will be able to win this match by 3-1 goals. Still, it's hard to predict about Verona. They suddenly make outstanding performances in any match. However, my bet in this match is in favor of Inter's victory.

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After obliterating Genoa 4-0, the next opponent of Inter is Verona. And I would like to add that it is an away match. Verona made Sassuolo some difficulties in their first match of the season. But Sassuolo still managed to win it 3-2. And when it comes to the head-to-head matches, I see that Inter are pretty dominant against them. In their last match, Inter beat them 2-1 here. There is nothing holding Inter back from winning here again. And I believe that they will manage to do so.

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 22, 2021, 11:46:34 PM

Everything can happen in football, Dybala playing well in the first half, I will think the same as you, money in my hand. but what happened in the second half is a dumb thing. Szczesny, I don't know what he's thinking, his blunder makes my money lost either and maybe I want to blame VAR too which make Ronaldo's goal disallowed on injured time.

Even though I was very enthusiastic about the goal. But ah now that I hate a bit, football technology. Yes, when viewed from two sides, it is profitable and detrimental, but in the end it doesn't matter. Of course not just you but all the fans, after such a phenomenal celebration and the emotional requirement of the goal being cancelled. It's sad, yes there will still be many matches, of course Juve must immediately improve for the next match.

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Milan played a really tough game against Sampdoria yesterday. We watched a quite balanced and competitive game. I think that Milan were worse in the absence of Zlatan Ibrahimovic. He is expected to return on the next match day. But I'm not sure if we can see him play then. Milan still managed to win the game 1-0 and Diaz scored it. I hope that we can see a much better Milan in this season. They were doing quite good until a point in the last season. Then, they lost their form and Inter pulled away from them.

A first match in a season is always difficult because it is a first match after long vacation in summer. Players need to be warmed up with real matches to get their best performance. Anyway, AC Milan got three points and they can aim to the next matches.
I think they can not rely too much on Ibrahimovic who is at the very end seasons in his career. At his age, many players would retire already.

Yeah, at that age there are not many players who can still choose to continue to play. But Zlatan Ibrahimovic is a very special player. Who knows at what age he will decide to retire. But I agree that Milan shouldn't be depending on Zlatan only. They can't go on like this forever in the end. Whatever the team are, the most important thing is teamplay. As long as the teamplay is more than OK, that team can achieve successes even without having their best player.

Ibra is a great player. It is unbelievable that he is performing at this age. I have seen many athletes feel old at this age. But Ibra is still doing great. However, he can never be considered the main striker of the team. The older he gets, He is more likely to be injured. So his replacement is definitely needed.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on August 24, 2021, 06:26:18 AM

Milan played a really tough game against Sampdoria yesterday. We watched a quite balanced and competitive game. I think that Milan were worse in the absence of Zlatan Ibrahimovic. He is expected to return on the next match day. But I'm not sure if we can see him play then. Milan still managed to win the game 1-0 and Diaz scored it. I hope that we can see a much better Milan in this season. They were doing quite good until a point in the last season. Then, they lost their form and Inter pulled away from them.

A first match in a season is always difficult because it is a first match after long vacation in summer. Players need to be warmed up with real matches to get their best performance. Anyway, AC Milan got three points and they can aim to the next matches.

I think they can not rely too much on Ibrahimovic who is at the very end seasons in his career. At his age, many players would retire already.

Yeah, at that age there are not many players who can still choose to continue to play. But Zlatan Ibrahimovic is a very special player. Who knows at what age he will decide to retire. But I agree that Milan shouldn't be depending on Zlatan only. They can't go on like this forever in the end. Whatever the team are, the most important thing is teamplay. As long as the teamplay is more than OK, that team can achieve successes even without having their best player.

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 24, 2021, 12:28:20 AM

Too much speculation about Ronaldo, why he isn't a starter, the rumors said he wants not to be a starter but another rumor said is just a tactic and strategy from Allegri, I don't know which one is true. but, from this situation, we all know something happens with Ronaldo, this is not as usual, In my opinion, possible there is a conflict between player and coach.

I highly doubt that Ronaldo ever be okay with being on the bench, this is Ronaldo we are talking about and he cares about that kind of thing a lot. This must have made him feel like he is not good enough to be in the starting eleven and that is one of the most important parts, I mean we are talking about something that is demanding for a player for his caliber and that is a very important factor.

Ronaldo could go to City or PSG and can still play every single game because he is THAT good and we all know it, so there is no strategy that could see him coming off bench and provide more to the team instead being on the pitch for 90 minutes which we all know he can do nearly every single game.

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