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Quote from: Arenga pinnata on October 14, 2024, 08:45:06 AM

At least we could have expected this news. So we are not surprised by Juventus' decision to part ways with Pogba. Because Thiago Motta seems to feel comfortable with the current squad. So releasing Pogba won't affect anything anymore. And for Pogba himself, maybe he won't have any difficulty getting a new club to want his signature. I think there will be offers from Arab clubs to him when the second half of the transfer market opens. Or when the player finishes his suspension period.

And other news even looks like Pogba is in communication with a French club, namely Marseille. And if Pogba goes to Marseille then it looks like it will be a good moment for Pogba to return home. Because it looks like Pogba has never played for a club from his own country.
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This is the best decision for both parties. Because that way Pogba can also establish communication with other clubs who might also be interested in the player's services. And I'm happy because in the end Pogba didn't receive any heavy sanctions. He managed to get relief because it seems he did not intentionally use doping. This will also improve Pogba's reputation.

Regarding Marseille's interest in Pogba I hope it becomes a reality. because if Pogba joins the French club Marseille, it will be a good reunion between Pogba and Mason Greenwood, who once played together at Man United. And currently Marseille is also coached by a fairly qualified coach, namely Roberto De Zerbi.

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Quote from: G_Besar on October 14, 2024, 07:16:19 AM

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because he simply hasn't played for a long time and won't be able to keep up with the new guys who are coming up and who are really very young, Italy is proof of this, there are excellent players who score and entertain so I wonder why they should playing pogba instead of a young player, they could rather sell him and make money on it

A big team like Juventus certainly has a lot of considerations when recruiting and selling the players they want because Juventus has also experienced problems in the Italian League so they will certainly consider their good name more than keeping players who are having cases like Pogba. But what we have to understand is that every player who still has the talent to play in every match will definitely be easier to sell because other teams also really want players like that to be in their squad. So don't be surprised when Pogba is still a player who is more desired by every team because he actually still has the ability to play in quite crucial matches.

Talking about ability, then Pogba is one of the players who has good ability in the game that he can show, but the problem is when he is always involved in problems so that it makes him have to be sanctioned and can't play. On the other hand, Juventus will certainly also consider whether they will sell this player or not, because if they still need him then they will definitely prefer to keep him. On the other hand, they also can't do anything when their player is under punishment, because no club wants to pay a player they can't play. Now when he returns, Juventus will consider whether they will keep him or choose to release him when a club wants to buy him.

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The news about Paul Pogba has been appears today that Fabrizio Romano through an his official twitter account has been confirmed that Paul Pogba and Juventus are agree to separate which mean Juventus have already to terminate his contract and since now Paul Pogba is not Juventus player anymore and i think this is according to people prediction because the current Juventus is very solid so they don't need Pogba anymore besides that Pogba has high salary and with terminate his contract Juventus can already reduce the players salary burden

Pogba is still recognized as big player and currently his status as free transfer players and i am sure some of European clubs or Arabian Clubs will be attempts to gets his signature in January but if he want money then Saudi Arabian clubs could be good destination for him

Source : https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1845741331689431261

That's the only way not to expect more from Paul Pogba, because if it is allowed by Juventus, the management will continue to pay the player's salary even though the player is suspended by FIFA, so the decision to terminate Paul Pogba's contract is a choice of place from both parties regarding Paul Pogba's future, only he knows which club he will join because his career is still considered to have a future even though the court's decision has not been issued, then anything can happen if Paul Pogba is proven guilty, then most likely he will retire early.

I agree with you Pogba will retire soon it's a fact, he's been on too many benches and I hope for him that he will have other opportunities elsewhere but I don't think he will make it because of his very serious accusation and the club I don't think will continue him to pay the salary

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Quote from: bering on October 14, 2024, 05:07:34 AM

The news about Paul Pogba has been appears today that Fabrizio Romano through an his official twitter account has been confirmed that Paul Pogba and Juventus are agree to separate which mean Juventus have already to terminate his contract and since now Paul Pogba is not Juventus player anymore and i think this is according to people prediction because the current Juventus is very solid so they don't need Pogba anymore besides that Pogba has high salary and with terminate his contract Juventus can already reduce the players salary burden

Pogba is still recognized as big player and currently his status as free transfer players and i am sure some of European clubs or Arabian Clubs will be attempts to gets his signature in January but if he want money then Saudi Arabian clubs could be good destination for him

Source : https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1845741331689431261

At least we could have expected this news. So we are not surprised by Juventus' decision to part ways with Pogba. Because Thiago Motta seems to feel comfortable with the current squad. So releasing Pogba won't affect anything anymore. And for Pogba himself, maybe he won't have any difficulty getting a new club to want his signature. I think there will be offers from Arab clubs to him when the second half of the transfer market opens. Or when the player finishes his suspension period.

And other news even looks like Pogba is in communication with a French club, namely Marseille. And if Pogba goes to Marseille then it looks like it will be a good moment for Pogba to return home. Because it looks like Pogba has never played for a club from his own country.
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Quote from: bering on October 14, 2024, 05:07:34 AM

The news about Paul Pogba has been appears today that Fabrizio Romano through an his official twitter account has been confirmed that Paul Pogba and Juventus are agree to separate which mean Juventus have already to terminate his contract and since now Paul Pogba is not Juventus player anymore and i think this is according to people prediction because the current Juventus is very solid so they don't need Pogba anymore besides that Pogba has high salary and with terminate his contract Juventus can already reduce the players salary burden

Pogba is still recognized as big player and currently his status as free transfer players and i am sure some of European clubs or Arabian Clubs will be attempts to gets his signature in January but if he want money then Saudi Arabian clubs could be good destination for him

Source : https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1845741331689431261

That's the only way not to expect more from Paul Pogba, because if it is allowed by Juventus, the management will continue to pay the player's salary even though the player is suspended by FIFA, so the decision to terminate Paul Pogba's contract is a choice of place from both parties regarding Paul Pogba's future, only he knows which club he will join because his career is still considered to have a future even though the court's decision has not been issued, then anything can happen if Paul Pogba is proven guilty, then most likely he will retire early.

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Saturday 19th October
Como 14:00 Parma
Genoa 14:00 Bologna
AC Milan 17:00 Udinese
Juventus 19:45 Lazio
Sunday 20th October
Empoli 11:30 Napoli
Lecce 14:00 Fiorentina
Venezia 14:00 Atalanta
Cagliari 17:00 Torino
Roma 19:45 Inter Milan
Monday 21st October
Verona 19:45 Monza

The weekend will be very entertaining based on the matches we have and I also wish that non of those players should sustain any injuries as they all went to represent there countries because it will be nice to see all the clubs on there best performance this weekend, however Saturday and Sunday is going to be very busy because of those match, however it would have been very good if Como vs Parma and Genoa vs Bologna match will have a different time because I wanted to watch those matches because they both has a lot in common, Juventus is another favorite match and the time is perfect because before then Como and Parma will be done with there match.

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Quote from: bering on October 14, 2024, 05:07:34 AM

The news about Paul Pogba has been appears today that Fabrizio Romano through an his official twitter account has been confirmed that Paul Pogba and Juventus are agree to separate which mean Juventus have already to terminate his contract and since now Paul Pogba is not Juventus player anymore and i think this is according to people prediction because the current Juventus is very solid so they don't need Pogba anymore besides that Pogba has high salary and with terminate his contract Juventus can already reduce the players salary burden

Pogba is still recognized as big player and currently his status as free transfer players and i am sure some of European clubs or Arabian Clubs will be attempts to gets his signature in January but if he want money then Saudi Arabian clubs could be good destination for him

Source : https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1845741331689431261

Pogba is ofcourse still a big and star player, and been on a free transfer as a big player isn't something uncommon as some player of big personality at some point too were free agents, a typical and most recent is that which kylian mbappe that is currently in Madrid moving from PSG and that isn't a challenge and doesn't speak any less of him or make it such that has a lesser of a great player for moving as a free agent and so Pogba will literally not be any less. Juventus wasn't and wouldn't have been an bad place from him but then moving on i hope and anticipate he gets a really good place that fits him and get his career back on track after all this time he had to tackle an issue.

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Quote from: giorgione on October 14, 2024, 05:29:49 AM

because he simply hasn't played for a long time and won't be able to keep up with the new guys who are coming up and who are really very young, Italy is proof of this, there are excellent players who score and entertain so I wonder why they should playing pogba instead of a young player, they could rather sell him and make money on it

A big team like Juventus certainly has a lot of considerations when recruiting and selling the players they want because Juventus has also experienced problems in the Italian League so they will certainly consider their good name more than keeping players who are having cases like Pogba. But what we have to understand is that every player who still has the talent to play in every match will definitely be easier to sell because other teams also really want players like that to be in their squad. So don't be surprised when Pogba is still a player who is more desired by every team because he actually still has the ability to play in quite crucial matches.

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A must-win match for both clubs, both clubs have the same points, namely 13 points and Juventus is in 3rd place in the standings and Lazio is in 4th place in the Serie A standings, of course both want to win so they can be in the best position for both clubs, Juventus certainly has the advantage of playing at home and will certainly get full support from supporters, so I think Juventus will play as hard as possible even though Lazio is in good condition, but it is not a bad thing for Juventus to play badly at home.

As funny as this may sound, but its actually true, its a must win game for both teams but more interesting thing is in the fact that both teams cannot win this game,, one has to loose ore both team get to draw the game. its been a smooth season so far for Juventus and this is going to be like a litmus test for them as i have observed few times that Juventus do have this decline that sets in after a particular game and this is one of such game lets see the impact of this game on them.

The Lazio match will be one of the decisive matches for Juventus. Because Lazio is doing very well. Juventus, on the other hand, has been performing poorly for a few matches. In order for Juventus to perform better, the players need to pull themselves together. If things continue like this, Juventus may not win this match because they have problems in big matches. Also, what I saw was probably just me, but they do not have a good enough rotation to compete for the championship in Italy. Some players do not have alternatives and when players get injured, Juventus struggles a lot.

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Quote from: giorgione on October 14, 2024, 05:29:49 AM

because he simply hasn't played for a long time and won't be able to keep up with the new guys who are coming up and who are really very young, Italy is proof of this, there are excellent players who score and entertain so I wonder why they should playing pogba instead of a young player, they could rather sell him and make money on it

Paul Pogba suffered because of he broke the rules. He's actually one of the top Frenchmen we acknowledged in football, he's rare in his potentials, he knows how to handle his oppositions, he has good footings on the ball, gained full confidence. Juventus knows the necessities of these top players and they're currently working on a budget, executing top targets for the club. Paul Pogba is big name in Juventus, his presence matters for the club, he's always more focused on measuring higher heights.

Coming to Juventus since his long-term suspension by FIFA, do you think he will be able to create a good chemistry with his teammates? Moreover the club's working on new project, he's a special player with enchanced abilities but unfortunately, the club will likely part ways with him due to bad records, they've in mind for other promising confident strategies. We will see where Paul Pogba goes from here.

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Quote from: giorgione on October 14, 2024, 05:29:49 AM

because he simply hasn't played for a long time and won't be able to keep up with the new guys who are coming up and who are really very young, Italy is proof of this, there are excellent players who score and entertain so I wonder why they should playing pogba instead of a young player, they could rather sell him and make money on it

I have no doubts about that because even though Paul Pogba has not played for a while because of the sanctions he received, it doesn't mean he hasn't trained. Paul Pogba is one of the best defensive midfielders in France and the talent he has is purely formed so just need regular training to make him better. Young players don't have the experience so there is no reason why he shouldn't be an option and it's just that he needs a little patience to train again so that his skills become better.

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The news about Paul Pogba has been appears today that Fabrizio Romano through an his official twitter account has been confirmed that Paul Pogba and Juventus are agree to separate which mean Juventus have already to terminate his contract and since now Paul Pogba is not Juventus player anymore and i think this is according to people prediction because the current Juventus is very solid so they don't need Pogba anymore besides that Pogba has high salary and with terminate his contract Juventus can already reduce the players salary burden

Pogba is still recognized as big player and currently his status as free transfer players and i am sure some of European clubs or Arabian Clubs will be attempts to gets his signature in January but if he want money then Saudi Arabian clubs could be good destination for him

Source : https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1845741331689431261

I don't know why Juventus don't want to keep Pogba, he is still a world class midfielder that they don't have hi match in their current squad, and they could have accommodated him with at least one year contract so that they get some money when selling him out to other big teams because I know that big teams will definitely come for Pogba or even Saudi Arabian teams.

Now that Juventus agreed to path ways with Pogba, it is an advantage to any team that will be willing to sign him, he will be a free agent, by January, I will be expecting hi m to get a serious club to negotiate with him even though it will not be a long term contract due to his age, and his injury records, I still think he can still do better than some midfielders due to his experience.

because he simply hasn't played for a long time and won't be able to keep up with the new guys who are coming up and who are really very young, Italy is proof of this, there are excellent players who score and entertain so I wonder why they should playing pogba instead of a young player, they could rather sell him and make money on it

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Quote from: samuraijin on October 14, 2024, 04:25:06 AM

A must-win match for both clubs, both clubs have the same points, namely 13 points and Juventus is in 3rd place in the standings and Lazio is in 4th place in the Serie A standings, of course both want to win so they can be in the best position for both clubs, Juventus certainly has the advantage of playing at home and will certainly get full support from supporters, so I think Juventus will play as hard as possible even though Lazio is in good condition, but it is not a bad thing for Juventus to play badly at home.

As funny as this may sound, but its actually true, its a must win game for both teams but more interesting thing is in the fact that both teams cannot win this game,, one has to loose ore both team get to draw the game. its been a smooth season so far for Juventus and this is going to be like a litmus test for them as i have observed few times that Juventus do have this decline that sets in after a particular game and this is one of such game lets see the impact of this game on them.

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Quote from: bering on October 14, 2024, 05:07:34 AM

The news about Paul Pogba has been appears today that Fabrizio Romano through an his official twitter account has been confirmed that Paul Pogba and Juventus are agree to separate which mean Juventus have already to terminate his contract and since now Paul Pogba is not Juventus player anymore and i think this is according to people prediction because the current Juventus is very solid so they don't need Pogba anymore besides that Pogba has high salary and with terminate his contract Juventus can already reduce the players salary burden

Pogba is still recognized as big player and currently his status as free transfer players and i am sure some of European clubs or Arabian Clubs will be attempts to gets his signature in January but if he want money then Saudi Arabian clubs could be good destination for him

Source : https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1845741331689431261

I don't know why Juventus don't want to keep Pogba, he is still a world class midfielder that they don't have hi match in their current squad, and they could have accommodated him with at least one year contract so that they get some money when selling him out to other big teams because I know that big teams will definitely come for Pogba or even Saudi Arabian teams.

Now that Juventus agreed to path ways with Pogba, it is an advantage to any team that will be willing to sign him, he will be a free agent, by January, I will be expecting hi m to get a serious club to negotiate with him even though it will not be a long term contract due to his age, and his injury records, I still think he can still do better than some midfielders due to his experience.

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The news about Paul Pogba has been appears today that Fabrizio Romano through an his official twitter account has been confirmed that Paul Pogba and Juventus are agree to separate which mean Juventus have already to terminate his contract and since now Paul Pogba is not Juventus player anymore and i think this is according to people prediction because the current Juventus is very solid so they don't need Pogba anymore besides that Pogba has high salary and with terminate his contract Juventus can already reduce the players salary burden

Pogba is still recognized as big player and currently his status as free transfer players and i am sure some of European clubs or Arabian Clubs will be attempts to gets his signature in January but if he want money then Saudi Arabian clubs could be good destination for him

Source : https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1845741331689431261

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Quote from: samuraijin on October 14, 2024, 04:25:06 AM

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Yes, the match between Juventus and Lazio in Serie A League on October 20 is going to be exciting. The performances of these two teams in the current season are surprising, but the performance of Lazio is more surprising than the performance of Juventus. Lazio are fourth in the standings with 13 points after winning four out of seven matches, drawing one and losing two. On the other hand Juventus have more draws than wins i.e. they have drawn more matches than they have won. There is a difference in current performances between Juventus and Lazio.

Juventus and Lazio participated in the last Italian Cup (Coppa Italia) tournament but in that match Lazio players dominated throughout the match. As a result, they were able to beat Juventus 2-1 Goals in that match. However, the upcoming match between these two teams is most likely to be a draw.

A must-win match for both clubs, both clubs have the same points, namely 13 points and Juventus is in 3rd place in the standings and Lazio is in 4th place in the Serie A standings, of course both want to win so they can be in the best position for both clubs, Juventus certainly has the advantage of playing at home and will certainly get full support from supporters, so I think Juventus will play as hard as possible even though Lazio is in good condition, but it is not a bad thing for Juventus to play badly at home.

The match between Juventus and Lazio will be one of the matches that we can indeed say as a big match after the international break ends, the two teams currently have a very close position in the Serie A standings, so indeed the match will be very decisive for both teams who indeed have the same 13 points and only have a goal difference, In terms of head to head, Juventus has been superior to Lazio, but if in their last match in the Coppa Italia Lazio managed to beat Juventus with a score of 2-1, then I think it will be difficult for us to predict who will win the match later, although playing at home in my opinion is not a guarantee that Juventus can be superior to Lazio, especially so far Lazio is in a positive trend after consecutive wins in their 4 last match, So indeed the match can be very tight and has the potential to end in a draw because I think both of them have a big mentality and ambition in the match later.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 14, 2024, 04:08:51 AM

There is actually not much to talk about Pogba. Because he will most probably say goodbye to Juventus soon. Because the team seriously thinks of releasing him and Pogba also doesn't make difficulties for them.

I also have the same thoughts about Pogba, Thiago Motta doesn't seem to want him at the club anymore, because he already has other players in that position. Juventus management also wants to minimize expenses, Pogba's salary is too high, and it doesn't match the contribution he makes to the team.

Quote from: Velvet78 on October 14, 2024, 04:08:51 AM

When it comes to Balotelli, I already indicated that I wouldn't have any problem with seeing him back in the Serie A. But I'm curious how much Genoa will pay for him. If it isn't reasonable then just there is no need.

I haven't heard his name for a long time, even had to check where Balotelli last played. Of course it's nice to see him back playing for a Serie A club, maybe his gangster nature hasn't healed yet, it has hampered his career development on many occasions. In terms of age, Balotelli still seems capable of playing at the top level, if the player gets a club in January, we will definitely see a lot of attention focused on him again.

Quote from: Velvet78 on October 14, 2024, 04:08:51 AM

Lastly what do you think about the probable champion of this season? Will it be Napoli you think? Huh

After all that progress with Conte I really started to believe in them honestly.

Napoli, in my opinion, have a good chance of winning the Scudetto, there is no doubt that Conte has succeeded in boosting their mentality since his arrival. Inter Milan and Juventus are Napoli main competitors, in my opinion the three teams have the same chance of winning the Scudetto this season. Napoli benefits from the situation, because they are absent from European competition, the tight match schedule may affect the progress of Inter Milan and Juventus.

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I am super excited for that match. That match will be good competition because both teams are trying to be good competitor. Juventus football team has more possibility of win and their past performance is good and they they can win this match . They have to play with confidence if they want to be lucky winner of this match. They should work on the things in which they lack but that team has also some defects in which they should work . Captain of that team should gather the players and coaches and he should take decisions fir that match and they have to make good plan if they want to win this match one sided. Lazio team is also not bad and they can do anything in any situation because players and captain combination is Osum and we will focus on the game of both teams.

Yes, the match between Juventus and Lazio in Serie A League on October 20 is going to be exciting. The performances of these two teams in the current season are surprising, but the performance of Lazio is more surprising than the performance of Juventus. Lazio are fourth in the standings with 13 points after winning four out of seven matches, drawing one and losing two. On the other hand Juventus have more draws than wins i.e. they have drawn more matches than they have won. There is a difference in current performances between Juventus and Lazio.

Juventus and Lazio participated in the last Italian Cup (Coppa Italia) tournament but in that match Lazio players dominated throughout the match. As a result, they were able to beat Juventus 2-1 Goals in that match. However, the upcoming match between these two teams is most likely to be a draw.

A must-win match for both clubs, both clubs have the same points, namely 13 points and Juventus is in 3rd place in the standings and Lazio is in 4th place in the Serie A standings, of course both want to win so they can be in the best position for both clubs, Juventus certainly has the advantage of playing at home and will certainly get full support from supporters, so I think Juventus will play as hard as possible even though Lazio is in good condition, but it is not a bad thing for Juventus to play badly at home.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on October 11, 2024, 09:35:15 PM

Most people are quite busy talking about Pogba and Juventus, now there is surprising rumor about Balotelli who wants to return to Serie-A, he is reported to be close to Alberto Gilardino, the coach of Genoa who most likely really has an interest in Balotelli to be able to enter his squad.

There is actually not much to talk about Pogba. Because he will most probably say goodbye to Juventus soon. Because the team seriously thinks of releasing him and Pogba also doesn't make difficulties for them.

When it comes to Balotelli, I already indicated that I wouldn't have any problem with seeing him back in the Serie A. But I'm curious how much Genoa will pay for him. If it isn't reasonable then just there is no need.

Lastly what do you think about the probable champion of this season? Will it be Napoli you think? Huh

After all that progress with Conte I really started to believe in them honestly.

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When Empoli play at their own home, they are indeed difficult to beat. Even Juventus and Fiorentina this season also failed to beat Empoli in the match which was held at Empoli's home ground. Juventus and Fiorentina were held to a draw by Empoli at the Carlo Castellani stadium. And it could be that in the match against Napoli we will see Empoli succeed in holding the guests who visit their headquarters to a draw.

But I expect a lot from Conte this season. Because we have seen Napoli return to their best performance thanks to Conte. Now Napoli have even managed to be at the top of the rankings with a difference of 2 points from 2nd place. And I am sure Conte will try to maintain that position. And that way Napoli must succeed in beating Empoli in the next match.

Yes, but if we look at the statistics of these games, we will see that Juventus and Fiorentina were superior to their opponents and the only reason they managed to draw in these matches was a good defensive game. The same 0:0 result was in the match with Monza, but Napoli's attack looks very good now and I think they can score against Empoli away. Conte understands that they cannot lose points, Inter is close and any loss can lead to the loss of their position.

This means that Empoli's defense is strong enough this season that it can make it difficult for tough opponents to score goals and it is not impossible that when they face Napoli later, Empoli will do the same thing as they did to Juventus and Fiorentina, but even so, it does not mean that Empoli is difficult to beat at home. I remember last season when Empoli played very weakly and now they must also have weaknesses and maybe Antonio Conte is currently looking for ways and preparing strategies to make his opponents off guard and in the end Napoli can score goals and steal points from Empoli.

Napoli will win Empoli no matter how difficult the match will be, because Napoli performance is at its peak and Empoli will not be able to withstand the pressure that Napoli attackers will mount on their defense.

Empoli is weak and will always show their weakness when playing with Napoli, which gives Napoli a good advantage to ride on them easily and get all three points. Conte is a coach that knows how to play games like this to maintain his position on top of the table.

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