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Quote from: blue Snow on October 09, 2021, 08:11:48 PM

~snip~ I do not agree he use all the way (Parking bus) to get a point, that was make bored ( I ever seen what he has done).
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That's good, mourinho should be like that. He had a lot of experience, he should have realized right away, his strategy had to change. The reason is because it's monotonous, many coaches have studied it. One way is to find a new strategy so that they have a variety of formations. He must immediately compose it, so that they can compete in the race for the Serie A title. Mourinho will get credit if Roma really returns as meritorious as when Batistuta and Toti played.
That's good, mourinho should be like that. He had a lot of experience, he should have realized right away, his strategy had to change. The reason is because it's monotonous, many coaches have studied it. One way is to find a new strategy so that they have a variety of formations. He must immediately compose it, so that they can compete in the race for the Serie A title. Mourinho will get credit if Roma really returns as meritorious as when Batistuta and Toti played.

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Quote from: rozak on October 10, 2021, 10:23:29 AM

it's true, the coach's ability will be seen when he sees the final achievement. but now we can see how Roma's game has changed and improved after Jose Mourinho took control.
Juventus is a strong team. thinking Roma can beat him easily is of course not that simple. but if Roma manages to get 3 points from the match. I think it can prove that Jose Mourinho does have a good ability to manage a team.
next week's game will be very tight, maybe there won't be many goals in the match. 1-0 to Juventus or even ended in a goalless draw.

Juventus will have a tough time winning against Roma, ever since the arrival of Mourinho to the club, their performance have improved and they are doing greatly. Although, is a home match for Juventus, and they are probably the favorite in this match. Juventus won their last match against Roma with 2-0 score. But with Roma's currently form, it won't be easy beating them. If Roma can be able to score the first goal, they will however play defense through out the rest of the match. That's the easiest way I think can win against Juventus IMO.

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Quote from: Spack17 on October 09, 2021, 06:18:23 AM

Lazio - Inter is the first match that's drawing my attention on the next week. I'm waiting for a hell of a match to watch. Lazio are playing much more different in their home stadium. They are far better there and they proved it by defeating Roma with a 3-2 score. Inter should watch out for them in this match not to lose. Inter haven't got a loss yet this season. They won't want this match to be their first one. I think that both teams will be able to score easily but it's tough to predict which team would be able to win.

Lazio is not just any team, Inter should be careful. Moreover, they will go to Lazio's house. In terms of ranking maybe Inter is better but football is unpredictable. Inter so far unbeaten in Serie A. Lazio itself has lost 2 times. This may be Lazio's chance to break Inter's unbeaten record. They have that chance because they will be playing at home.

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Quote from: OcTradism on October 09, 2021, 08:19:28 PM

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He still needs an improvement strategy, he has 2 losses. that is different from the top 3 ranks (Napoli, Milan, and Inter) that never lost in the last 7 games. I do not agree he use all the way (Parking bus) to get a point, ..

It is the first season of Mourinho in Roma and very first matches. At the start, their fans only hope that Mourinho can help them to get a position to qualify for Champions League, in top 4. Now they expect more after they saw the team got good results. ..

Yes, even though Roma isn't a favorite for the scudetto at the beginning, but progress Mourinho made is good enough as expected. too Many doubted when he managed Roma because it is filled out with too many young players. He have to build youth squad like Nicolo Zaniolo, Tammy Abraham, Lorenzo Pellegrini, Darboe, Nicolo Zalewski, and Ricardo Calafiori. so far his progress looks successful after defeat Empoli 2-0 and at least Rome is back on track.

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Quote from: masulum on October 10, 2021, 11:13:25 AM

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I agree with you that Torino and Roma are different teams by a big margin. It will be unfortunate for Juventus if they still can't have Dybala in their attack. Chiesa alone can only do much. Yes, they have won the last 3 matches without Dybala and Morata but winning against Roma without Dybala would be a tough challenge in my opinion. And I just hope that Mourinho doesn't play park the bus, that tactics bore the hell out of me. I'm hoping for an exciting attacking match.

Slowly Allegri will find the right formation for Juventus even though there is no Dybala or Moratta, Allegri is a pretty smart coach, although with limited players, he is able to give maximum results just remember when he bring Milan scudetto with old players Grin

. This match is not only an opportunity for Mourinho to prove the quality of his strategy, but how Allegri can dispel doubts from the public that the victory in the last few matches is not a coincidence.

No one will deny that Allegri is beginning to achieve some success in instilling in Juventus the game that gave results in the previous period of the specialist's work at the club. Another question is that this game was not particularly spectacular, which eventually led to the parting of the club with Massimiliano and an attempt to rebuild the game first with Sarri, and then with Pirlo. This did not bring the expected result and even led to the loss of the title last season, and therefore Juventus returned to cooperation with Allegri. Mourinho, too, from the time of Porto, no longer differs much in the spectacular style of play, basing the result on, so we can not wait for an exciting spectacle from these two coaches, because now they have other main goals.

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Quote from: dustboy on October 10, 2021, 07:25:11 AM

The capacity of someone as a coach is not proven by a single match only. Even if Roma will beat Juventus, it does not prove his capacity. The capacity of a coach should be based on the overall performance or achievement during the whole season.

Definitely. A single match cannot determine how good the quality of a coach is. It should be determined by all the matches during the season. The match between Juventus vs Roma on matchday 8 can be a crucial match, but the result isn't an absolute indicator for the qualities of both coaches or whole players. The defeated team may be just unlucky in the match, or the loss can be caused by a mistake of one player. So, it cannot be an indicator of the coach's quality or the squad's qualities.

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Quote from: Slow death on October 10, 2021, 05:16:23 PM

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Lazio lost their last match to Bologna...

it wasn't a simple defeat, it was a total humiliation, Bologna managed to score 3 goals and didn't concede a single goal and as if that wasn't enough, lazio was reduced to 10 players, if we take into consideration these data I would say that inter will win with some comfort this game against lazio. usually when a team concedes 3 goals, has a very weak defense and can hardly recover in the next game, especially when playing against a strong opponent like Inter, who scores a lot of goals when playing against a team with serious problems in defense

Even when Lazio is in their top form, they find it very hard to get even a point from Inter. From the last 5 matches, both teams have a two wins each and a draw even though it's not much different now, inter is actually a better team that they were and shown their prowess last season by winning the league. I'm rooting for an inter win as they try to close the gap with title leaders, Napoli.

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Quote from: blackened515 on October 09, 2021, 09:21:20 PM

Lazio lost their last match to Bologna...

it wasn't a simple defeat, it was a total humiliation, Bologna managed to score 3 goals and didn't concede a single goal and as if that wasn't enough, lazio was reduced to 10 players, if we take into consideration these data I would say that inter will win with some comfort this game against lazio. usually when a team concedes 3 goals, has a very weak defense and can hardly recover in the next game, especially when playing against a strong opponent like Inter, who scores a lot of goals when playing against a team with serious problems in defense

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Lazio - Inter game is also a very interesting game of the coming week. Inter are in a better shape than their competitor now. They have zero loss in their seven league games so far. But Lazio are quite strong in their home games and we saw it when they defeated Roma by 3-2. They would like to do the same against Inter too. However, I expect a more endurable team against Lazio this time. I don't think that Inter will get their first loss of the season here. But both of these teams should be able to score without problem.

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Quote from: Roidz on October 10, 2021, 12:45:49 PM

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Quote from: rozak on October 10, 2021, 10:23:29 AM

it's true, the coach's ability will be seen when he sees the final achievement. but now we can see how Roma's game has changed and improved after Jose Mourinho took control.
Juventus is a strong team. thinking Roma can beat him easily is of course not that simple. but if Roma manages to get 3 points from the match. I think it can prove that Jose Mourinho does have a good ability to manage a team.
next week's game will be very tight, maybe there won't be many goals in the match. 1-0 to Juventus or even ended in a goalless draw.

I agree, most likely the match will be with a small amount of goals, Mourinier has a habit of playing responsible matches from defense, which in the end can lead to boring matches without goals. Juventus is now gaining shape and I expect only victory from Juventus in this match. Roma is a strong opponent with whom it will not be easy for Juventus, but I think Juventus will be able to win.

I really hope if Juventus can score the first goal against Roma, so of course the match will be quite fierce and of course Roma will play more attacking to be able to repay the score, but if Roma can score against Juventus for the first time, of course it can be ascertained if the match it will be very boring, because of course mourinho will apply his old tactic, that is parking the bus to be able to maintain victory, the bus parking tactic will usually be used by morinho when his team in superior condition against big teams so far.

Juventus won't have Dybala or Morata available for the match so they will be nerfed in the attacking section and we all know that Mourinho has a bad tendency to play park the bus in these kinds of matches, so a low scoring game is to be expected. But I'd be very happy if Mourinho chooses to play the attacking game as if they are able to score first, Juventus will have a hard time equalizing that.

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Quote from: masulum on October 10, 2021, 11:13:25 AM

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I agree with you that Torino and Roma are different teams by a big margin. It will be unfortunate for Juventus if they still can't have Dybala in their attack. Chiesa alone can only do much. Yes, they have won the last 3 matches without Dybala and Morata but winning against Roma without Dybala would be a tough challenge in my opinion. And I just hope that Mourinho doesn't play park the bus, that tactics bore the hell out of me. I'm hoping for an exciting attacking match.

Slowly Allegri will find the right formation for Juventus even though there is no Dybala or Moratta, Allegri is a pretty smart coach, although with limited players, he is able to give maximum results just remember when he bring Milan scudetto with old players Grin

. This match is not only an opportunity for Mourinho to prove the quality of his strategy, but how Allegri can dispel doubts from the public that the victory in the last few matches is not a coincidence.

It will be difficult for Juventus this year and Allegri can't do much,they are just 10 points behind right now against a Napoli which has 5 consecutive wins and it is dominating the Serie A right now.The two other teams from Milano are following,if you ask me this is a clear indicator that no matter what Allegri does for Juventus it will be extremely difficult to win the scudetto this year,personally I think it is impossible for them but this is just what I think,Juventus have won a scudetto and they were like 12 points behind at this timeline of the Serie A a few years ago.

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Quote from: masulum on October 10, 2021, 11:13:25 AM

Quote from: Minecache on October 10, 2021, 10:37:17 AM

I agree with you that Torino and Roma are different teams by a big margin. It will be unfortunate for Juventus if they still can't have Dybala in their attack. Chiesa alone can only do much. Yes, they have won the last 3 matches without Dybala and Morata but winning against Roma without Dybala would be a tough challenge in my opinion. And I just hope that Mourinho doesn't play park the bus, that tactics bore the hell out of me. I'm hoping for an exciting attacking match.

Slowly Allegri will find the right formation for Juventus even though there is no Dybala or Moratta, Allegri is a pretty smart coach, although with limited players, he is able to give maximum results just remember when he bring Milan scudetto with old players Grin

. This match is not only an opportunity for Mourinho to prove the quality of his strategy, but how Allegri can dispel doubts from the public that the victory in the last few matches is not a coincidence.

That is true. Allegri is a very capable and smart coach. I'd be curious to know what formation he plays and plays whom as the central striker. This will be an important match for both the coaches as you said, Mourinho has to prove that he is the special one and Allegri has to show the fans that Juventus are still one of the contenders of the league title.

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Quote from: Altryist on October 10, 2021, 10:41:05 AM

Quote from: rozak on October 10, 2021, 10:23:29 AM

it's true, the coach's ability will be seen when he sees the final achievement. but now we can see how Roma's game has changed and improved after Jose Mourinho took control.
Juventus is a strong team. thinking Roma can beat him easily is of course not that simple. but if Roma manages to get 3 points from the match. I think it can prove that Jose Mourinho does have a good ability to manage a team.
next week's game will be very tight, maybe there won't be many goals in the match. 1-0 to Juventus or even ended in a goalless draw.

I agree, most likely the match will be with a small amount of goals, Mourinier has a habit of playing responsible matches from defense, which in the end can lead to boring matches without goals. Juventus is now gaining shape and I expect only victory from Juventus in this match. Roma is a strong opponent with whom it will not be easy for Juventus, but I think Juventus will be able to win.

I really hope if Juventus can score the first goal against Roma, so of course the match will be quite fierce and of course Roma will play more attacking to be able to repay the score, but if Roma can score against Juventus for the first time, of course it can be ascertained if the match it will be very boring, because of course mourinho will apply his old tactic, that is parking the bus to be able to maintain victory, the bus parking tactic will usually be used by morinho when his team in superior condition against big teams so far.

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Quote from: Minecache on October 10, 2021, 10:37:17 AM

I agree with you that Torino and Roma are different teams by a big margin. It will be unfortunate for Juventus if they still can't have Dybala in their attack. Chiesa alone can only do much. Yes, they have won the last 3 matches without Dybala and Morata but winning against Roma without Dybala would be a tough challenge in my opinion. And I just hope that Mourinho doesn't play park the bus, that tactics bore the hell out of me. I'm hoping for an exciting attacking match.

Slowly Allegri will find the right formation for Juventus even though there is no Dybala or Moratta, Allegri is a pretty smart coach, although with limited players, he is able to give maximum results just remember when he bring Milan scudetto with old players Grin

. This match is not only an opportunity for Mourinho to prove the quality of his strategy, but how Allegri can dispel doubts from the public that the victory in the last few matches is not a coincidence.

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Quote from: rozak on October 10, 2021, 10:23:29 AM

it's true, the coach's ability will be seen when he sees the final achievement. but now we can see how Roma's game has changed and improved after Jose Mourinho took control.
Juventus is a strong team. thinking Roma can beat him easily is of course not that simple. but if Roma manages to get 3 points from the match. I think it can prove that Jose Mourinho does have a good ability to manage a team.
next week's game will be very tight, maybe there won't be many goals in the match. 1-0 to Juventus or even ended in a goalless draw.

I agree, most likely the match will be with a small amount of goals, Mourinier has a habit of playing responsible matches from defense, which in the end can lead to boring matches without goals. Juventus is now gaining shape and I expect only victory from Juventus in this match. Roma is a strong opponent with whom it will not be easy for Juventus, but I think Juventus will be able to win.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on October 10, 2021, 01:14:48 AM

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Juventus still defeated Torino away without Dybala and Morata. But Dybala might play in the match against Roma. And it would be for the benefit of Juventus for sure. Because they don't have a natural centre-forward in the absence of both of these players. Dybala is actually a second striker but he can still contribute to the team a lot and have a role in a probable victory.

This Derby is going to be very exciting as we all know about Mourinho he is not easy person even playing away from home but against a tough opponent he will do his all homework and try to have his point because right now he needed these points for better ending of this season as Roma Coach. Juventus beat Torino without Dybala but mate Torino and Roma two completely different teams and for this match Dybala is not available as he is still in injury list and need some more time for recovery. But I am still going with Juventus because their form is good after few wins in last matches.

I agree with you that Torino and Roma are different teams by a big margin. It will be unfortunate for Juventus if they still can't have Dybala in their attack. Chiesa alone can only do much. Yes, they have won the last 3 matches without Dybala and Morata but winning against Roma without Dybala would be a tough challenge in my opinion. And I just hope that Mourinho doesn't play park the bus, that tactics bore the hell out of me. I'm hoping for an exciting attacking match.

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The duel of Juventus versus AS Roma will certainly be a proof for Jose Mourinho to show his capacity as a coach with the nickname the only one or special one, so far, pretty good results have been obtained by AS Roma in Serie A matches but from a series of wins AS Roma only with a small team they are able to won three points, the match against Juventus became proof for AS Roma to be able to get the full three points and improve their position in the standings to stay at the top and have a chance to qualify for the champions league next season.

The capacity of someone as a coach is not proven by a single match only. Even if Roma will beat Juventus, it does not prove his capacity. The capacity of a coach should be based on the overall performance or achievement during the whole season.

it's true, the coach's ability will be seen when he sees the final achievement. but now we can see how Roma's game has changed and improved after Jose Mourinho took control.
Juventus is a strong team. thinking Roma can beat him easily is of course not that simple. but if Roma manages to get 3 points from the match. I think it can prove that Jose Mourinho does have a good ability to manage a team.
next week's game will be very tight, maybe there won't be many goals in the match. 1-0 to Juventus or even ended in a goalless draw.

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its like habitual in serie a, to see a team like napoli and ac milan doing good at first but at the end of the season everything wiped up by juventus. i feel like the calciopoli smells really hard, its exist but nobody can see it. just take a look back where juventus always had way way better advantages than any other clubs in serie a for at least a couple of seasons back. well this might sounds crazy no sense or wild speculation.

It is right before the last season when Juventus dominated Serie A in almost 10 years. The generation of BBC (Bonnucci-Barzagli-Chiellini) is over, Buffon is not there and Ronaldo left the club. Juventus are building their squad with young players and they can win Scudetto but the competition in Serie A now is more balanced for all big clubs.

Napoli and AC Milan can lose their good forms but it does not mean Juventus will take over the first position from them. Other teams can do it, instead of Juventus, exclusively Inter Milan and AS Roma.

not sure if juventus do really building young generation.. all i can see that they are in financial difficult as they did not bring cristiano replacement but instead doing nothing in the transfer window... and the consequences is as you can see, the club having a slow start of the season.

i always doubt about ac milan and napoli consistency, every season is like a loop for them to get slipped and ended in nearly losing european competition spot. inter milan much better competitor tho.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on October 10, 2021, 07:19:35 AM

The duel of Juventus versus AS Roma will certainly be a proof for Jose Mourinho to show his capacity as a coach with the nickname the only one or special one, so far, pretty good results have been obtained by AS Roma in Serie A matches but from a series of wins AS Roma only with a small team they are able to won three points, the match against Juventus became proof for AS Roma to be able to get the full three points and improve their position in the standings to stay at the top and have a chance to qualify for the champions league next season.

You are right. The match against Juventus will be a tough enough test for Mourinho. So far he has got good results, but only against comparatively smaller teams. This will be Roma's first tough test in the league. Roma is currently 4th in the league and they will surely go for a title run and compete against Napoli - who is currently ranked 1st in the table having 6 points lead over them. Juventus have won their last 3 consecutive matches and look very fit after quite a bad start to the season.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on October 10, 2021, 07:19:35 AM

The duel of Juventus versus AS Roma will certainly be a proof for Jose Mourinho to show his capacity as a coach with the nickname the only one or special one, so far, pretty good results have been obtained by AS Roma in Serie A matches but from a series of wins AS Roma only with a small team they are able to won three points, the match against Juventus became proof for AS Roma to be able to get the full three points and improve their position in the standings to stay at the top and have a chance to qualify for the champions league next season.

The capacity of someone as a coach is not proven by a single match only. Even if Roma will beat Juventus, it does not prove his capacity. The capacity of a coach should be based on the overall performance or achievement during the whole season.

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