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Quote from: babo on December 11, 2020, 02:59:04 AM

they will try to do better in the italian league so as not to throw away an entire season

Yeah exactly, Inter just have Copa and Serie-A, they will do the best to keep one or both . We know Conte still has a good history before he became Inter coach. He is able to give the title for the team. When a team can get the title, it will affect the player's price as well. So, maybe what needs to be considered is the conte's strategy and how players carry out his strategies. When both of these factor are running smoothly, and i believe it very possible for Inter to get at least 1 title this season. ^{but i hope it will never come true, because i want AC Milan scudetto, haha}

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Quote from: marioantonini on December 10, 2020, 12:58:17 AM

bad news today for Italian football. Paolo "Pablito" Rossi, the hero of the 1982 Spanish World Cup won by Italy, died today at the age of 64.
Paolo Rossi had made all Italians fall in love with his goals at the 1982 Spanish World Cup. For all Rossi was not a Juventus player, but a true Italian player

It does not look like people here know about Pablito Rossi. Roll Eyes

It does not surprise me at all, because when Maradona died, I cannot recall it correctly, there were a few guys who did not know about him too.
Good you have mentioned him, we are talking about a guy who was able to defeat the amazing Brazil of the 80s and winning a Ballon d'Or.

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Quote from: snipie on December 10, 2020, 07:14:02 AM

Quote from: babo on December 10, 2020, 03:05:22 AM

with the exit of Inter from all European leagues, I expect the players to become more bad
although Antonio Conte is incapable, the team has many champions who will surely be angry .. this anger will make the totally broken team win slightly more even if it is not certain

in any case it becomes dangerous to play with an unstable team

At the opposite, I believe players will have more resting time and will focus more in the league title.

they getting angry, in my humble opinion
remember footballers want to make a career.. of course
if a season goes wrong, their resume also suffers SO MUCH

they will try to do better in the italian league so as not to throw away an entire season

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 10, 2020, 06:39:16 PM

Quote from: Prince Malik on December 10, 2020, 06:35:23 PM

I cant really understund how inter can exit from the champoins leageu in a group like this...its treu that the real is there but i was expecting inter will go the the europa leageu in the worst case but i dont think this will affect the players performance in the serie a...they will focus on it

They could be unlucky in some (2) games but if you can't manage to be better in the other 4 games you deserve to be eliminated.

Here in Italy journalists always said that the Conte type of game is not well suited for the Euro cups and for an exception of last year where he hit and lost the final (he didn't pass the qualification group stage for the Champion League tho...) he always failed in Europe.

3 Years with Juventus always failed in CL, 2 with Chealse failed, 2 with Inter failed.

Can be a coincidence and bad variance but so far his "3-5-2" is not working in Europe.

Anyway i think that this elimination will not be very frustrating for inter funs because i believe inter must first focus on the serie a and why not stop the juve dominance this year...wish that this year will be more competitive

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Quote from: Prince Malik on December 10, 2020, 06:35:23 PM

I cant really understund how inter can exit from the champoins leageu in a group like this...its treu that the real is there but i was expecting inter will go the the europa leageu in the worst case but i dont think this will affect the players performance in the serie a...they will focus on it

They could be unlucky in some (2) games but if you can't manage to be better in the other 4 games you deserve to be eliminated.

Here in Italy journalists always said that the Conte type of game is not well suited for the Euro cups and for an exception of last year where he hit and lost the final (he didn't pass the qualification group stage for the Champion League tho...) he always failed in Europe.

3 Years with Juventus always failed in CL, 2 with Chealse failed, 2 with Inter failed.

Can be a coincidence and bad variance but so far his "3-5-2" is not working in Europe.

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Quote from: babo on December 10, 2020, 03:05:22 AM

with the exit of Inter from all European leagues, I expect the players to become more bad
although Antonio Conte is incapable, the team has many champions who will surely be angry .. this anger will make the totally broken team win slightly more even if it is not certain

in any case it becomes dangerous to play with an unstable team

I cant really understund how inter can exit from the champoins leageu in a group like this...its treu that the real is there but i was expecting inter will go the the europa leageu in the worst case but i dont think this will affect the players performance in the serie a...they will focus on it

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Quote from: marioantonini on December 10, 2020, 12:58:17 AM

bad news today for Italian football. Paolo "Pablito" Rossi, the hero of the 1982 Spanish World Cup won by Italy, died today at the age of 64.
Paolo Rossi had made all Italians fall in love with his goals at the 1982 Spanish World Cup. For all Rossi was not a Juventus player, but a true Italian player

Yeah heard that sad news, from 2 years suspension to a legend.

Quote from: babo on December 10, 2020, 03:05:22 AM

with the exit of Inter from all European leagues, I expect the players to become more bad
although Antonio Conte is incapable, the team has many champions who will surely be angry .. this anger will make the totally broken team win slightly more even if it is not certain

in any case it becomes dangerous to play with an unstable team

At the opposite, I believe players will have more resting time and will focus more in the league title.

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Quote from: babo on December 10, 2020, 03:05:22 AM

with the exit of Inter from all European leagues, I expect the players to become more bad
although Antonio Conte is incapable, the team has many champions who will surely be angry .. this anger will make the totally broken team win slightly more even if it is not certain

in any case it becomes dangerous to play with an unstable team

I don't expect that, Conte is smart enough to try and use that anger, as you put it, as a fuel. Anger can be a great motivational tool and make players go hard in each league game to prove they are better then everyone else thinks. To show that they are men and not some whiny sissies,

I would certainly play on that car if I was a coach.

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with the exit of Inter from all European leagues, I expect the players to become more bad
although Antonio Conte is incapable, the team has many champions who will surely be angry .. this anger will make the totally broken team win slightly more even if it is not certain

in any case it becomes dangerous to play with an unstable team

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Quote from: AndySt on December 09, 2020, 06:10:27 PM

Quote from: -CryptoViking- on December 09, 2020, 09:49:15 AM

I beg to differ. Milan is not weak without Ibra at all. They performed better this season when Ibra was not playing. He adds a lot to the team and I get that so many people treat him as a god, but he is not Milan. Milan has a good core of players now and with some good transfers they can get back on track like before. There is a lot players in Milan now with really good character and that adds up.

I also want to say that it is a strong exaggeration to say that modern Milan is very weak without Ibra. Although Ibra certainly had a great season before his injury and this is a bad event for the club. I think that at last in recent years we can finally see a competitive Milan that will finally stop disappointing its fans and will continue to fight for the highest places and titles.

Without Ibra Milan still win when faced with Sampdoria but just make two goal only, I think if they have Ibra Milan could scoring more than two goal and now he on the first top scorer in Serie A for AC Milan. Most change without Ibra although Milan can win almost match when Ibra injury and positive covid. but Milan could make more superior when Ibra playing at the first minutes, there are not debate between Milan with Ibra or not but most effective winning if Milan can playing with Ibra. I think Milan can't be on the first position standing without have the lord Ibra because he gave many motivation for Milang young player.

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bad news today for Italian football. Paolo "Pablito" Rossi, the hero of the 1982 Spanish World Cup won by Italy, died today at the age of 64.
Paolo Rossi had made all Italians fall in love with his goals at the 1982 Spanish World Cup. For all Rossi was not a Juventus player, but a true Italian player

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Quote from: -CryptoViking- on December 09, 2020, 09:49:15 AM

I beg to differ. Milan is not weak without Ibra at all. They performed better this season when Ibra was not playing. He adds a lot to the team and I get that so many people treat him as a god, but he is not Milan. Milan has a good core of players now and with some good transfers they can get back on track like before. There is a lot players in Milan now with really good character and that adds up.

I also want to say that it is a strong exaggeration to say that modern Milan is very weak without Ibra. Although Ibra certainly had a great season before his injury and this is a bad event for the club. I think that at last in recent years we can finally see a competitive Milan that will finally stop disappointing its fans and will continue to fight for the highest places and titles.

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Time for another turn.

Friday 11th December
Sassuolo 19:45 Benevento

Saturday 12th December
Crotone 14:00 Spezia
Torino 17:00 Udinese
Lazio 19:45 Verona

Sunday 13th December
Cagliari 11:30 Inter Milan
Atalanta 14:00 Fiorentina
Bologna 14:00 Roma
Napoli 14:00 Sampdoria
Genoa 17:00 Juventus
AC Milan 19:45 Parma

Source: https://www.skysports.com/serie-a-fixtures

Should be an easy week but in these days we always have a surprise, who will fail their game?

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Quote from: babo on December 08, 2020, 01:08:43 PM

In my humble opinion:
- Milan without Ibra is a very weak team, because they are scared or dont have the initiative or the ability to push the team, in few words: Milan without Ibra = nothing, but Ibra can express himself at 100%, team work for him
- Juventus, without CR7.. CR7 is strong, but is marketing operation (CR7 brought a lot of money). Juventus is a well-placed team where the champion can play but cannot express himself at 100% (like Milan) but without CR7 isnt a mess.. him work for team

we have 2 options:
- team work for you
- you work for team

which is the better of the two? it depends on the cases, there is no best ever

I beg to differ. Milan is not weak without Ibra at all. They performed better this season when Ibra was not playing. He adds a lot to the team and I get that so many people treat him as a god, but he is not Milan. Milan has a good core of players now and with some good transfers they can get back on track like before. There is a lot players in Milan now with really good character and that adds up.

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Quote from: babo on December 08, 2020, 01:08:43 PM

In my humble opinion:
- Milan without Ibra is a very weak team, because they are scared or dont have the initiative or the ability to push the team, in few words: Milan without Ibra = nothing, but Ibra can express himself at 100%, team work for him

Ibra can show his better role to force their team-mates going forwards and playing much better. He is confident, and strong but not too much selfish as CR7. I think the transfer of Ibra to Milan and his contributions so far give Milan and Ibra's team-mates a win-win situation. He helped them have better results from his goals and more than that he brought confidence and ambition back to Milan after many seasons.

Seasons later, some young players in Milan will do recognize how he was affected and changed by Ibra. It can be similar to what Zola and Paolo Di Canio changed Premier League and professionality of young players there: the generation of Lampard, Rio Ferdinand, Joe Cole, etc.
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- Juventus, without CR7.. CR7 is strong, but is marketing operation (CR7 brought a lot of money). Juventus is a well-placed team where the champion can play but cannot express himself at 100% (like Milan) but without CR7 isnt a mess.. him work for team

CR7 is strong, confident and ambitious but his self-esteem can have negative effects on his team-mates. His financial returns from kit-sales are huge and should not be underestimated.

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we have 2 options:
- team work for you
- you work for team

which is the better of the two? it depends on the cases, there is no best ever

Do you really think so?

Sometimes it is best if a player works for a team, motivates the team and the team brings back better results as a whole solid entity. The three musketeers

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Quote from: rodrigobitcoin on December 07, 2020, 07:11:17 AM

But my question is: without Ibra or Ronaldo, are they able to achieve the same results? Because it's so easy to rely only on them, but it's harder to go further without them. It's a double-edged sword, having such strong people in a team.

In my humble opinion:
- Milan without Ibra is a very weak team, because they are scared or dont have the initiative or the ability to push the team, in few words: Milan without Ibra = nothing, but Ibra can express himself at 100%, team work for him
- Juventus, without CR7.. CR7 is strong, but is marketing operation (CR7 brought a lot of money). Juventus is a well-placed team where the champion can play but cannot express himself at 100% (like Milan) but without CR7 isnt a mess.. him work for team

we have 2 options:
- team work for you
- you work for team

which is the better of the two? it depends on the cases, there is no best ever

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Quote from: -CryptoViking- on December 08, 2020, 07:45:22 AM

Quote from: rodrigobitcoin on December 07, 2020, 07:11:17 AM

But my question is: without Ibra or Ronaldo, are they able to achieve the same results? Because it's so easy to rely only on them, but it's harder to go further without them. It's a double-edged sword, having such strong people in a team.

Yes it is for Milan for sure. If you check statistics and see matches in which Ibra was not playing you can see that Milan scored more goals and won more points per match then in those matches when Ibra was on the pitch.

I think so too. The Milan team is stable enough. If Ibra is in the team, the players of the team must be mentally cheerful and strong. But besides Ibra, Milan is a good enough team. They have won many matches without Ibra.

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Quote from: rodrigobitcoin on December 07, 2020, 07:11:17 AM

But my question is: without Ibra or Ronaldo, are they able to achieve the same results? Because it's so easy to rely only on them, but it's harder to go further without them. It's a double-edged sword, having such strong people in a team.

Yes it is for Milan for sure. If you check statistics and see matches in which Ibra was not playing you can see that Milan scored more goals and won more points per match then in those matches when Ibra was on the pitch.

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Quote from: acquafredda on December 08, 2020, 04:32:16 AM

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The next game will be skipped from Morata too, a hard time for Juventus let's hope they will not lose points in the next turn.

Milan should lose some games to lose their confidence otherwise they will win the league.

We can never say it is over for Juventus, that is one common truth. Their latest games are not that bad and let us not forget they have never lost a single game this season and they have the best defence (together with Hellas Verona). They will be fighting hard for the title until the end and it is up to Milan to show they truly want to take Scudetto from their jersey. Usually the last days before the Christmas break are critical and I believe Juve will get back on top (at least in 2nd position).

Sassuolo will be a formidable opponent for Milan because last week Sassuolo was able to draw against AS Roma, maybe Milan will have difficulty against Sassuolo later. However, if Ibrahimovic's condition is fit and can strengthen Milan, it will definitely add to his pounding power for Milan considering the previous match when Sampdoria Milan had difficulty scoring many goals, even though Milan's goal margin could be more than 3 goals per match.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 07, 2020, 06:25:08 PM

The next game will be skipped from Morata too, a hard time for Juventus let's hope they will not lose points in the next turn.

Milan should lose some games to lose their confidence otherwise they will win the league.

We can never say it is over for Juventus, that is one common truth. Their latest games are not that bad and let us not forget they have never lost a single game this season and they have the best defence (together with Hellas Verona). They will be fighting hard for the title until the end and it is up to Milan to show they truly want to take Scudetto from their jersey. Usually the last days before the Christmas break are critical and I believe Juve will get back on top (at least in 2nd position).

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