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Quote from: EdenHazard on October 15, 2019, 07:49:31 AM

What the F Huh

7 games is too early to judge anything ... it seems everyone, every club nowadays badly wanted an overnight success, that's why. Just look at how ole gunnar solskjaer for Manchester United since 20 August having 10 games with 5 Draw 3 Lost and 2 Win only! And for the record last season they finished outside champions league spot, yet he is staying.

Give the manager at least 1 season or two to provide a progress then it's fair. I know giampaolo appointed as ac milan head coach 4 months ago still it doesn't count as 1 season or so, he managed the team to win 3 times and lost it 4 times, they should give him more time at least till this December.

This doesn't mean that Manchester United does the right decision to keep him on the bench instead of sacking him.
Milan fans are too frustrated as this club was on the top in the past and now they seem unable to secure a UCL spot. That puts more pressure on the board...

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Quote from: EdenHazard on October 15, 2019, 07:49:31 AM

What the F Huh

7 games is too early to judge anything ... it seems everyone, every club nowadays badly wanted an overnight success, that's why. Just look at how ole gunnar solskjaer for Manchester United since 20 August having 10 games with 5 Draw 3 Lost and 2 Win only! And for the record last season they finished outside champions league spot, yet he is staying.

Maybe it's too early, but as you know, after AC Milan sacked Allegri, no manager can bring AC Milan to Champion league. Just Gattuso give us a little hope. But, he cut his contract, because he know, his target is to bring AC Milan to UCL but he fail. About giampaolo, i think pressure from AC milan fans is one of the reason why management sacked giampaolo.

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Quote from: Pmalek on October 15, 2019, 04:30:40 AM

Had he been a bit smarter it would have been much better for him.
Can was not included in the CL squad because Giorgio Chiellini was seriously injured and will miss most of the season. Another defender needed to take his place and Rugani did that pushing Can out of the list. UEFA also states that a number of domestic and homegrown players need to be part of the CL squad. Chiellini being an Italian was one of them, because of his injury another Italian was needed to take his place - Rugani. That is why Can was sacrificed.

Yeah, it's a shame. Players need to 'play' smart in and off the pitch. Especially because they don't have any influence on who would be on the pitch after they stated some controversial stories like this. Joining a new club might give him a better chance to play regularly now. Problem is, who would buy a player that easily backlash his club in front of the media.

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Quote from: swogerino on October 14, 2019, 02:20:09 AM

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Quote from: tazmantasik on October 12, 2019, 06:40:40 PM

There are two reasons why Marco Giampaolo was fired from his coaching chair.
1. There is no other choice
Milan must fire Giampaolo because there is no other choice. Because, things are not going well under his care.

2. For the Sake of Milan
Giampaolo is a good coach. However, they must separate for the good of the club "

Eight managers has been sacked in the last 5 years for ac milan and 3 owners has pouring money for the player transfer .. yet they are considered as a mediocre. Giampaolo only given 7 games which I think it's a bit rush to sack him with Stefano pioli as a replacement which I think nothing will changed , unless if the replacement is on a level of like Jose Mourinho it would more than worth to sack giampaolo immediately Grin

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I was AC Milan fan boy back in the days ... 90's , crazy Italian clubs dominating Europe, maybe it's just a cycle where in modern football english clubs and Spain clubs turn to dominate.

Giampaolo had all the time needed to demonstrate what was his philosophy of play and to apply it in the field.
Seven games are enough to judge the performance of a coach and it showed that the philosophy of this coach didn’t workout in Ac Milan.

What the F Huh

7 games is too early to judge anything ... it seems everyone, every club nowadays badly wanted an overnight success, that's why. Just look at how ole gunnar solskjaer for Manchester United since 20 August having 10 games with 5 Draw 3 Lost and 2 Win only! And for the record last season they finished outside champions league spot, yet he is staying.

Give the manager at least 1 season or two to provide a progress then it's fair. I know giampaolo appointed as ac milan head coach 4 months ago still it doesn't count as 1 season or so, he managed the team to win 3 times and lost it 4 times, they should give him more time at least till this December.

But yeah here's the problem , they got 5 red cards in 4 games which it's crazy stats!

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Quote from: Murat on October 14, 2019, 06:00:20 AM

Emre Can Should change the team because he is very potential and strong in the midfield, I think he is not in the Sarri's game plan anymore but he has played a wonderful game in the international level, If he moves Manchester United then it will be useful for both of them. In the squad of old lady, some more potential players are on the bench, I believe Sarri will choose Aron Ramsey and Pjanic First and then Douglas Costa and Rabbiot will play as their substitute, so there is no chance to make a start for Emre, It's a not big issue for Juve but it's major concern for Emre because he is now 28 only, He has a lot of things given towards the future

Sarri will most likely focus on two formations this season:
4-3-3 with Douglas Costa on the wing or 4-3-1-2 with Ramsey playing behind the strikers. This will depend mostly on the opposition and availability of players.

The issue with Emre Can is a complex one. Can was not included in the Champions League squad of Juventus and he felt like he was betrayed by the club. He made a bad media outburst stating that he was promised Champions League football and that he had an offer during the summer from PSG that he rejected because of Juventus. I believe that he hasn't played that much because he is being silently punished by the club because of his criticism.

Had he been a bit smarter it would have been much better for him.
Can was not included in the CL squad because Giorgio Chiellini was seriously injured and will miss most of the season. Another defender needed to take his place and Rugani did that pushing Can out of the list. UEFA also states that a number of domestic and homegrown players need to be part of the CL squad. Chiellini being an Italian was one of them, because of his injury another Italian was needed to take his place - Rugani. That is why Can was sacrificed.

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Quote from: masulum on October 14, 2019, 09:51:11 AM

Quote from: Barracuda on October 14, 2019, 03:37:27 AM

But everything has happened, maybe the right choice was taken by AC Milan management to replace the coach.

Replace Giampaolo with Piolo actually not the best option for AC Milan. Pioli have better histories than Giampolo, but if Spaletti become an AC Milan manager, it will be more better. Unfortunately, Spaletti and inter not meet a deal. I think, Piolo will become the 8th coach was sacked by AC Milan very soon.

However you think it's not good or right about Pioli, it has become a legitimate choice. And also don't think fast for Pioli who will be fired later. He just started and hasn't had a match with Milan. So just look ahead, then we can judge later.

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Quote from: bestcoins1 on October 14, 2019, 11:45:09 AM

Bad News for Inter Milan, the striker they borrowed from manchester united Alexis Sanchez is injured and is likely to return to play early next year. This is a disadvantage for Inter Milan because Alexis performed well in Serie A . https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1190224/alexis-sanchez-injury-man-utd-loanee-chile-colombia

Yes, the ankle injury is quite severe it is estimated that he is absent for the next 2 or 3 months, this injury occurred during an international friendly against Colombia
It seems the manager is forcing him to play even though this match is not very important. this injury happened at the last minute he should have been replaced before the game ended.

Unfortunately, Alexis' appearance began to improve when on Inter Milan and he was even injured (again). when a player gets injured when their performance starts to improve he needs more time to find his best performance (again) when he recovers from injury. In this situation the team that loses the most is Intermilan because they just borrowed Alexis from Manchester United

I'd say that Inter Milan were the ones who got the better deal in the end because Manchester United are paying most of Sanchez salary even though he is playing for Inter Milan. He currently earns £500K a week and Manchester United will be paying £350K a week with Inter Milan coughing up the remaining £150K which goes to show how stupid the entire deal is.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on October 14, 2019, 12:01:50 PM

Quote from: bestcoins1 on October 14, 2019, 11:45:09 AM

Bad News for Inter Milan, the striker they borrowed from manchester united Alexis Sanchez is injured and is likely to return to play early next year. This is a disadvantage for Inter Milan because Alexis performed well in Serie A . https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1190224/alexis-sanchez-injury-man-utd-loanee-chile-colombia

Yes, the ankle injury is quite severe it is estimated that he is absent for the next 2 or 3 months, this injury occurred during an international friendly against Colombia
It seems the manager is forcing him to play even though this match is not very important. this injury happened at the last minute he should have been replaced before the game ended.

Unfortunately, Alexis' appearance began to improve when on Inter Milan and he was even injured (again). when a player gets injured when their performance starts to improve he needs more time to find his best performance (again) when he recovers from injury. In this situation the team that loses the most is Intermilan because they just borrowed Alexis from Manchester United

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Quote from: yoseph on October 13, 2019, 11:19:47 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on October 13, 2019, 09:51:37 AM

^ I'd not be happy to have Pogba at my club. What a drama queen he is lately. He could be downing tools at Juve too if for some reason he's unhappy.

He is not being a professional player at all and he is gradually becoming very troublesome like Diego Costa used to be and if indeed he had a had in the sacking of Jose Mourinho, then he is a very dangerous person and can turn the entire dressing room against any manager, i would be careful letting a player like that into my team.

It is very inaccurate to compare Pogba with Diego Costa.
Diego Costa might be a special personality but he was really bringing results to the team. Pogba is a drama queen and he doesn't provide to Manchester United anything or he has bad performance. He has no right to complain.

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Quote from: bestcoins1 on October 14, 2019, 11:45:09 AM

Bad News for Inter Milan, the striker they borrowed from manchester united Alexis Sanchez is injured and is likely to return to play early next year. This is a disadvantage for Inter Milan because Alexis performed well in Serie A . https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1190224/alexis-sanchez-injury-man-utd-loanee-chile-colombia

Yes, the ankle injury is quite severe it is estimated that he is absent for the next 2 or 3 months, this injury occurred during an international friendly against Colombia
It seems the manager is forcing him to play even though this match is not very important. this injury happened at the last minute he should have been replaced before the game ended.

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Bad News for Inter Milan, the striker they borrowed from manchester united Alexis Sanchez is injured and is likely to return to play early next year. This is a disadvantage for Inter Milan because Alexis performed well in Serie A . https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1190224/alexis-sanchez-injury-man-utd-loanee-chile-colombia

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hmph..

Quote from: Barracuda on October 14, 2019, 03:37:27 AM

But everything has happened, maybe the right choice was taken by AC Milan management to replace the coach.

Replace Giampaolo with Piolo actually not the best option for AC Milan. Pioli have better histories than Giampolo, but if Spaletti become an AC Milan manager, it will be more better. Unfortunately, Spaletti and inter not meet a deal. I think, Piolo will become the 8th coach was sacked by AC Milan very soon.

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Quote from: FlamingFingers on October 13, 2019, 03:25:55 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on October 13, 2019, 09:51:37 AM

^ I'd not be happy to have Pogba at my club. What a drama queen he is lately. He could be downing tools at Juve too if for some reason he's unhappy.

He has been there before and he is no drama queen, Pogba will be a big plus for Juventus, imagine the combination of Matuidi, Pjanic and Pogba in midfield, that's gonna be really awesome

Of course he is, just look at him. There was a reason why SAF got rid of him practically for free to Juve in the first place.

He'll be ok until he's he's not happy. And under Sarri, I don't think he will be. But I hope he does get the transfer and we'll see for real. Grin

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Emre Can Should change the team because he is very potential and strong in the midfield, I think he is not in the Sarri's game plan anymore but he has played a wonderful game in the international level, If he moves Manchester United then it will be useful for both of them. In the squad of old lady, some more potential players are on the bench, I believe Sarri will choose Aron Ramsey and Pjanic First and then Douglas Costa and Rabbiot will play as their substitute, so there is no chance to make a start for Emre, It's a not big issue for Juve but it's major concern for Emre because he is now 28 only, He has a lot of things given towards the future

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Quote from: swogerino on October 14, 2019, 02:20:09 AM

Quote from: EdenHazard on October 13, 2019, 11:21:22 PM

Quote from: tazmantasik on October 12, 2019, 06:40:40 PM

There are two reasons why Marco Giampaolo was fired from his coaching chair.
1. There is no other choice
Milan must fire Giampaolo because there is no other choice. Because, things are not going well under his care.

2. For the Sake of Milan
Giampaolo is a good coach. However, they must separate for the good of the club "

Eight managers has been sacked in the last 5 years for ac milan and 3 owners has pouring money for the player transfer .. yet they are considered as a mediocre. Giampaolo only given 7 games which I think it's a bit rush to sack him with Stefano pioli as a replacement which I think nothing will changed , unless if the replacement is on a level of like Jose Mourinho it would more than worth to sack giampaolo immediately Grin

.

I was AC Milan fan boy back in the days ... 90's , crazy Italian clubs dominating Europe, maybe it's just a cycle where in modern football english clubs and Spain clubs turn to dominate.

Giampaolo had all the time needed to demonstrate what was his philosophy of play and to apply it in the field.
Seven games are enough to judge the performance of a coach and it showed that the philosophy of this coach didn’t workout in Ac Milan.

If you look at AC Milan is not so bad in 7 Italian league matches. From the start of this season's 7 matches, Milan only got 3 wins. But unfortunately the other Italian teams always compete for victory, which means the ranking in the Italian league is always changing.

But everything has happened, maybe the right choice was taken by AC Milan management to replace the coach.

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Quote from: EdenHazard on October 13, 2019, 11:21:22 PM

Quote from: tazmantasik on October 12, 2019, 06:40:40 PM

There are two reasons why Marco Giampaolo was fired from his coaching chair.
1. There is no other choice
Milan must fire Giampaolo because there is no other choice. Because, things are not going well under his care.

2. For the Sake of Milan
Giampaolo is a good coach. However, they must separate for the good of the club "

Eight managers has been sacked in the last 5 years for ac milan and 3 owners has pouring money for the player transfer .. yet they are considered as a mediocre. Giampaolo only given 7 games which I think it's a bit rush to sack him with Stefano pioli as a replacement which I think nothing will changed , unless if the replacement is on a level of like Jose Mourinho it would more than worth to sack giampaolo immediately Grin

.

I was AC Milan fan boy back in the days ... 90's , crazy Italian clubs dominating Europe, maybe it's just a cycle where in modern football english clubs and Spain clubs turn to dominate.

Giampaolo had all the time needed to demonstrate what was his philosophy of play and to apply it in the field.
Seven games are enough to judge the performance of a coach and it showed that the philosophy of this coach didn’t workout in Ac Milan.

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Quote from: tazmantasik on October 12, 2019, 06:40:40 PM

There are two reasons why Marco Giampaolo was fired from his coaching chair.
1. There is no other choice
Milan must fire Giampaolo because there is no other choice. Because, things are not going well under his care.

2. For the Sake of Milan
Giampaolo is a good coach. However, they must separate for the good of the club "

Eight managers has been sacked in the last 5 years for ac milan and 3 owners has pouring money for the player transfer .. yet they are considered as a mediocre. Giampaolo only given 7 games which I think it's a bit rush to sack him with Stefano pioli as a replacement which I think nothing will changed , unless if the replacement is on a level of like Jose Mourinho it would more than worth to sack giampaolo immediately Grin

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I was AC Milan fan boy back in the days ... 90's , crazy Italian clubs dominating Europe, maybe it's just a cycle where in modern football english clubs and Spain clubs turn to dominate.

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Quote from: FlamingFingers on October 13, 2019, 03:25:55 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on October 13, 2019, 09:51:37 AM

^ I'd not be happy to have Pogba at my club. What a drama queen he is lately. He could be downing tools at Juve too if for some reason he's unhappy.

He has been there before and he is no drama queen, Pogba will be a big plus for Juventus, imagine the combination of Matuidi, Pjanic and Pogba in midfield, that's gonna be really awesome

Thank you @FlamingFingers
What you say, it's true. I also think that Pogba will add to the ammunition that Juventus have now. That is why Juventus have ambitions to repatriate Pogba again. So that Juventus can be even stronger in the middle line in particular.

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 13, 2019, 09:51:37 AM

^ I'd not be happy to have Pogba at my club. What a drama queen he is lately. He could be downing tools at Juve too if for some reason he's unhappy.

He has been there before and he is no drama queen, Pogba will be a big plus for Juventus, imagine the combination of Matuidi, Pjanic and Pogba in midfield, that's gonna be really awesome

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 13, 2019, 09:51:37 AM

^ I'd not be happy to have Pogba at my club. What a drama queen he is lately. He could be downing tools at Juve too if for some reason he's unhappy.

He is not being a professional player at all and he is gradually becoming very troublesome like Diego Costa used to be and if indeed he had a had in the sacking of Jose Mourinho, then he is a very dangerous person and can turn the entire dressing room against any manager, i would be careful letting a player like that into my team.

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