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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 07, 2023, 05:33:12 AM

Milan have spent 110 million euros on transfers already. But they have done this by spending this money on 6 players rather than 1 or 2. They don't like the idea of making one sensational transfer then I assume. They just want to strengthen multiple areas and increase the number of alternative players at the same time.

As far as I can see Pulisic, Loftus-Cheek and Chukwueze are the most impressive transfers. I don't have a wide knowledge about the other transfers. I can just criticize the Okafor transfer because he hasn't been a good scorer so far as the number of goals over the years isn't much good.

I feel like they are just trying to change some of the names in the club so that they could build a better team, doesn't mean that it will end up being something great for the long term, but we can easily say that they are at least not happy with last seasons result, use some of the transfer money, and some of whatever else money they have, and build a whole new one.

With these type of transfers, not all of them are starting eleven type of guys, and we need to make sure that they are doing as well as they hoped for and could be doing a good job in the end. I get it, it is not simple, but it should be considered as an option without a doubt. That way we could end up with a good result one way or another with these new people.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on August 07, 2023, 01:59:28 PM

You are right there is a chance to stay Osimhen is only performing well when he is playing for Napoli and there is even the chance to say Osimhen can have a good performance just when he is playing with the system in Spalletti's team. This means he can't have this performance in other teams and that's why there are not many offers for him at this price, because we already saw similar cases when the players left their teams. Núñez was a good example when he left Benfica to Liverpool.

Messi also didn't immediately start playing at PSG as well as he did in Barcelona, but when he moved to Inter Miami he immediately started scoring. You can’t compare different players, their success depends on many factors, but if you don’t try, you won’t know. Al-Hilal is once again trying to get Osimhen, and they promise him a payment of about 50 million a year, this is a lot of money, but it looks like he wants to stay at Napoli, with whom he has a contract until 2025.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on August 07, 2023, 05:33:12 AM

Milan have spent 110 million euros on transfers already. But they have done this by spending this money on 6 players rather than 1 or 2. They don't like the idea of making one sensational transfer then I assume. They just want to strengthen multiple areas and increase the number of alternative players at the same time.

As far as I can see Pulisic, Loftus-Cheek and Chukwueze are the most impressive transfers. I don't have a wide knowledge about the other transfers. I can just criticize the Okafor transfer because he hasn't been a good scorer so far as the number of goals over the years isn't much good.

All in all, Milan has had a good signing campaign so far, they have sold their most representative player and with the money collected they have spent it all to buy good players, but my concern is about the algorithm they use to choose players on the transfer market , their president had stated that they use an algorithm to choose players to buy, but I find it too risky as a move. moreover they are all players who come from different leagues and will have to settle in the A series which is certainly not the simplest

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on August 07, 2023, 09:37:07 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on August 07, 2023, 05:33:12 AM

Milan have spent 110 million euros on transfers already. But they have done this by spending this money on 6 players rather than 1 or 2. They don't like the idea of making one sensational transfer then I assume. They just want to strengthen multiple areas and increase the number of alternative players at the same time.

As far as I can see Pulisic, Loftus-Cheek and Chukwueze are the most impressive transfers. I don't have a wide knowledge about the other transfers. I can just criticize the Okafor transfer because he hasn't been a good scorer so far as the number of goals over the years isn't much good.

But I understand why in this transfer market AC Milan prefers to increase the quantity of players at the club rather than prioritizing the quality of buying 1 or 2 players. This was triggered by the club's experience last season, which had problems with the replacement player crisis. We remember that last season AC Milan had experienced a decline in the middle of the season due to injuries to several of their core players. And at that time AC Milan didn't have many good options from second tier players. So that at that time AC Milan really experienced inconsistency and made them lose several points that they shouldn't have lost. This time the club definitely wants to have a more mature preparation with more players to prevent them from having a player crisis when the core players are injured again.

I personally think that they did the right move by doing this. The quality of the squad was not very good to be honest. And it was not going to be easy to improve the squad with only one or two players. There is also a big chance that by bringing only one or two players, it is only going to decrease the chances of those players performing very well. So I can absolutely understand why they have taken this decision. Additionally, possessing a greater abundance of alternatives is invariably more advantageous. Football has become a lot more competitive now. It is better to have players who can provide that to the squad and also have versatility. Now obviously some people are going to say that they have made the right decision and some people will say they have not. We will only know right or wrong after we see them perform.

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Quote from: len01 on August 07, 2023, 08:33:01 AM

You are right there is a chance to stay Osimhen is only performing well when he is playing for Napoli and there is even the chance to say Osimhen can have a good performance just when he is playing with the system in Spalletti's team. This means he can't have this performance in other teams and that's why there are not many offers for him at this price, because we already saw similar cases when the players left their teams. Núñez was a good example when he left Benfica to Liverpool.

Sometimes, coaches are not the ones responsible for the decline in their players' performance, but it can be happens this season he can't show us a previous season, As you say, this kind of situation has often occurred with star players. Osimhen could prove that last season was purely a reflection of his skills. However, it is also possible that he has become a player who can no longer reach his previous level of performance.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on August 07, 2023, 02:18:17 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on August 07, 2023, 01:59:28 PM

You are right there is a chance to stay Osimhen is only performing well when he is playing for Napoli and there is even the chance to say Osimhen can have a good performance just when he is playing with the system in Spalletti's team. This means he can't have this performance in other teams and that's why there are not many offers for him at this price, because we already saw similar cases when the players left their teams. Núñez was a good example when he left Benfica to Liverpool.

If we see a good relationship being built between the players and Rudi Garcia I don't think much thing will change about Napoli as of now either. Because Rudi Garcia's own system has many similarities to Spalletti's. They both use the same formation and have a similar understanding of game. It is all up to chemistry now.

As long as there is no problem about that I'm expecting Napoli to stay very ambitious for the league title this season also. But I don't think they can win the title comfortably again as I wait for at least Inter to become much more competitive than last season.

Before we see the actual game then we can consider it a myth, indeed the coach has a role in the performance of the players but it is not the whole only a few percent basically they have talents and abilities. It would make more sense if we talk about competitors I mean Osimhen doesn't have strong competitors in Serie A so he can be the best there however the situation would be different if he moved to the Premier League because there are many reliable strikers, well we can compare this case with Nunez who couldn't compete with other strikers or even with his teammates. Whatever the speculation, at least we have to wait for Napoli's first match with the new coach.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on August 07, 2023, 01:59:28 PM

You are right there is a chance to stay Osimhen is only performing well when he is playing for Napoli and there is even the chance to say Osimhen can have a good performance just when he is playing with the system in Spalletti's team. This means he can't have this performance in other teams and that's why there are not many offers for him at this price, because we already saw similar cases when the players left their teams. Núñez was a good example when he left Benfica to Liverpool.

If we see a good relationship being built between the players and Rudi Garcia I don't think much thing will change about Napoli as of now either. Because Rudi Garcia's own system has many similarities to Spalletti's. They both use the same formation and have a similar understanding of game. It is all up to chemistry now.

As long as there is no problem about that I'm expecting Napoli to stay very ambitious for the league title this season also. But I don't think they can win the title comfortably again as I wait for at least Inter to become much more competitive than last season.

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Quote from: len01 on August 07, 2023, 08:33:01 AM

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Osimhem was already known in Europe before Napoli bought him and it is reflected on the transfer price of Osimhen from Lille to Napoli at €75.00M two seasons ago. He just became stronger, more goal productive and has a higher value on transfer market.

Rudi Garcia is a safe choice for Napoli as he already spent some seasons in Serie A with AS Roma. He failed to win Scudetto with Roma but at least he can help them to end at the second position which is a good position for Napoli too. It is unrealistic if Napoli think that they can win more Scudetto in coming years.

I think the quality of Osimhen career is thanks to the help of Spalletti but unfortunately Napoli did not appreciate Spalletti contribution while training Napoli players by sacking him right after winning the Scudetto just for failing to bring Napoli to win the champions league title and to be honest I would also doubt Garcia even though he has coached several teams previously including AS Roma but in reality he failed to bring Roma to the top of the standings and also has no experience of bringing a team to win the champions league cup and now Napoli appointed Garcia to train Napoli players.
I will strongly believe that Garcia will not be as good as Spalletti in providing strategy to this team and will only perform mediocre like last season.

You are right there is a chance to stay Osimhen is only performing well when he is playing for Napoli and there is even the chance to say Osimhen can have a good performance just when he is playing with the system in Spalletti's team. This means he can't have this performance in other teams and that's why there are not many offers for him at this price, because we already saw similar cases when the players left their teams. Núñez was a good example when he left Benfica to Liverpool.

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Quote from: bering on August 07, 2023, 09:01:03 AM

Juventus soon will be finished Facundo Gonzalez transfer from Valencia and it says Juventus have to spend 350.000 to gets this player and he will do medical check immediately and after Facundo Gonzalez performing well with Uruguay national team and bringing this team to being an the champion of U-20 world cup he has linked to several clubs but apparently he choose Juventus because Facundo Gonzalez was very interested to joined and he will gets 5 years contract duration with Juventus but Allegri will not putting Gonzalez into Juventus main squad because he will thinking to loan Gonzalez to other team to gets more minutes to play and so far Salernitana has showing their interest to loan Gonzalez

I'm jealous of Juventus for getting such a talented player for 350,000 euros. But Allegri's Gonzalez plans really had my thoughts rolling

I mean, lending him to Salernitana? I know the boy needs more playtime. The Juventus primary team is for that, right? He might be what Juven needs to start. His skills make him a vital player

However, the manager's loan feels like a gloomy cloud over a pleasant celebration. I know Allegri knows best, but this move could hurt Juventus. Time will tell, but I think it's a phony problem that might have been avoided

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on August 07, 2023, 01:08:46 PM

Kim Min-Jae had a good performance in Napoli when he was playing there but in this transfer window because of well performance he was the target of some other teams and that's why Kim Min-Jae left Napoli and joined Bayern Munich in Bundesliga to play there in the next season since Napoli lost a defender they were trying to find a player to fill his pale and now Natan Bernardo de Souza joined Napoli after this South Korean player left the team, the good this about Natan Bernardo de Souza is this Brazilian player is just 22 year old and he is even younger than Kim Min-Jae.
Natan signed his contract and he is going to play in Napoli until 2028.

Napoli sold their South Korean defender for €50m and brought Natan for €10m. He isn't the only one they brought to the team since they added players in the attack line, yet Napoli finance is still positive without losing Osimhen and Kvaratskhelia. The Nigerian player is still in the lights of Saudi Arabia teams which aren't desperate from signing him.
So far so good for Napoli the last season and even in their friendlies pre-season matches.

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Kim Min-Jae had a good performance in Napoli when he was playing there but in this transfer window because of well performance he was the target of some other teams and that's why Kim Min-Jae left Napoli and joined Bayern Munich in Bundesliga to play there in the next season since Napoli lost a defender they were trying to find a player to fill his pale and now Natan Bernardo de Souza joined Napoli after this South Korean player left the team, the good this about Natan Bernardo de Souza is this Brazilian player is just 22 year old and he is even younger than Kim Min-Jae.
Natan signed his contract and he is going to play in Napoli until 2028.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on August 07, 2023, 12:04:31 PM

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Napoli's success last season was due to their consistency until the end of the season, and of course, Napoli's consistency cannot be separated from coach Spalletti who often rotates players so that the players have the mentality and confidence when performing. Spalletti also changed the stigma of the catenaccio of the famous game of Italian football. Spalletti tries to change the mindset of Italian football to not only defend but also attack. that's the art of football.

Of course, we hope that Napoli's success last season will not become a season sensation, even if coach Spalletti leaves. But now with a new coach, of course, this will be a challenge for him with the strategy he wants to implement. This season will be more difficult to win and the chances will likely shrink if the competitors can improve well in the late to early season. If you can return to performing consistently, it shouldn't be difficult for Napoli to defend the Scudetto title, at least finish as runners-up, and have the chance to win again.

My prediction is that it will be difficult for Napoli to defend the Scudetto next season, because of the loss of Spalletti. Rudi Garcia will need one or two seasons to reach Spalletti previous level, it's normal because everyone needs an adaptation process. In the defense sector they have lost Kim Min Jae who was released to Bayern Munchen, if Osimhen also leaves then it is likely that Napoli will not be able to finish in the Champions League zone.

If within this transfer deadline Napoli cannot retain their flagship players, then I think next season will be even more difficult for them.

Napoli will have to bring in good players. They need at least the same level of players that they had in the last season. Otherwise they are definitely not going to win the title again. As a defending champion, they have a duty to actually try and bring as better players as they can. But compared to the other clubs, they are probably the least active one in this transfer market. Probably that’s because of the new coach. He will have to work hard to make the team strong. Everyone is doubting the coach a lot. And I am going to be honest, I am also doubting him. Because first of all it is going to be the first season for him with Napoli. So the expectation is high from him. There is also a high chance that he’s not going to be able to deliver as expected.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on August 07, 2023, 12:24:28 PM

I can't predict anything about Napoli yet because I didn't see anything and any games from this new version of Napoli coached by Rudi Garcia but I'm sure they won't have a good performance and win the Serie A title like the last season because in the last season when they won the first place of the league, other teams didn't have a good situation and they mostly had problem. Juventus is a good reason for these teams, that's why I think Napoli won't get these results anymore.

Agree, if Juventus had not been sanctioned with a point deduction, of course last season's Serie A standings would have been different. My point is that Juventus decline was the biggest factor for Napoli to win the Scudetto last season. Spaletti made good use of the opportunity, supported by an in-form player like Osimhen.

For next season I think Napoli will still be the favourites, at least finishing in the Champions League Zone is still very realistic. AC Milan is the strongest candidate to win the Scudetto, if you look at their transfer market movements.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on August 07, 2023, 12:04:31 PM

Quote from: Mame89 on August 07, 2023, 11:32:54 AM

Napoli's success last season was due to their consistency until the end of the season, and of course, Napoli's consistency cannot be separated from coach Spalletti who often rotates players so that the players have the mentality and confidence when performing. Spalletti also changed the stigma of the catenaccio of the famous game of Italian football. Spalletti tries to change the mindset of Italian football to not only defend but also attack. that's the art of football.

Of course, we hope that Napoli's success last season will not become a season sensation, even if coach Spalletti leaves. But now with a new coach, of course, this will be a challenge for him with the strategy he wants to implement. This season will be more difficult to win and the chances will likely shrink if the competitors can improve well in the late to early season. If you can return to performing consistently, it shouldn't be difficult for Napoli to defend the Scudetto title, at least finish as runners-up, and have the chance to win again.

My prediction is that it will be difficult for Napoli to defend the Scudetto next season, because of the loss of Spalletti. Rudi Garcia will need one or two seasons to reach Spalletti previous level, it's normal because everyone needs an adaptation process. In the defense sector they have lost Kim Min Jae who was released to Bayern Munchen, if Osimhen also leaves then it is likely that Napoli will not be able to finish in the Champions League zone.

If within this transfer deadline Napoli cannot retain their flagship players, then I think next season will be even more difficult for them.

I can't predict anything about Napoli yet because I didn't see anything and any games from this new version of Napoli coached by Rudi Garcia but I'm sure they won't have a good performance and win the Serie A title like the last season because in the last season when they won the first place of the league, other teams didn't have a good situation and they mostly had problem. Juventus is a good reason for these teams, that's why I think Napoli won't get these results anymore.

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Quote from: Mame89 on August 07, 2023, 11:32:54 AM

Napoli's success last season was due to their consistency until the end of the season, and of course, Napoli's consistency cannot be separated from coach Spalletti who often rotates players so that the players have the mentality and confidence when performing. Spalletti also changed the stigma of the catenaccio of the famous game of Italian football. Spalletti tries to change the mindset of Italian football to not only defend but also attack. that's the art of football.

Of course, we hope that Napoli's success last season will not become a season sensation, even if coach Spalletti leaves. But now with a new coach, of course, this will be a challenge for him with the strategy he wants to implement. This season will be more difficult to win and the chances will likely shrink if the competitors can improve well in the late to early season. If you can return to performing consistently, it shouldn't be difficult for Napoli to defend the Scudetto title, at least finish as runners-up, and have the chance to win again.

My prediction is that it will be difficult for Napoli to defend the Scudetto next season, because of the loss of Spalletti. Rudi Garcia will need one or two seasons to reach Spalletti previous level, it's normal because everyone needs an adaptation process. In the defense sector they have lost Kim Min Jae who was released to Bayern Munchen, if Osimhen also leaves then it is likely that Napoli will not be able to finish in the Champions League zone.

If within this transfer deadline Napoli cannot retain their flagship players, then I think next season will be even more difficult for them.

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Quote from: Doell on August 07, 2023, 10:51:08 AM

Yes Sir, if Napoli can maintain their performance then they will get praise. Especially if Napoli can show a good performance in big competition UCL, then their fans will be very happy. By the way, currently Napoli already signed a defender player which has a great potential in the future. I mean Natan Bernardo de Souza, Brazil man is expected to be a suitable replacement in a defensive position. Although maybe not comparable with Min Jae because Natan is still relatively young, but at least Napoli strengthened their squad depth.

Bringing in young defenders to make the defense better is not wrong at all because that kind of thing is very wise for a club like Napoli. After all, Napoli still have to make themselves stronger in the UCL next season so as not to disappoint their fans, but if Napoli still fails in the UCL again, it will not be solely because they are not fighting. But maybe it's because they haven't had so much luck in the UCL, and even so the signing of young players won't be in vain for them in Serie A next season.

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Quote from: hd49728 on August 07, 2023, 12:08:36 AM

Napoli disrespect Spalletti after the coach helped them to win a first Scudetto after more than 30 years. They have never won it before that but after winning Scudetto, they did not feel happy with it and asked more. They wanted to win Champions League and when Spalletti failed at quarter finals against AC Milan, they sacked him in suprrise of all.

Napoli's success last season was due to their consistency until the end of the season, and of course, Napoli's consistency cannot be separated from coach Spalletti who often rotates players so that the players have the mentality and confidence when performing. Spalletti also changed the stigma of the catenaccio of the famous game of Italian football. Spalletti tries to change the mindset of Italian football to not only defend but also attack. that's the art of football.

Of course, we hope that Napoli's success last season will not become a season sensation, even if coach Spalletti leaves. But now with a new coach, of course, this will be a challenge for him with the strategy he wants to implement. This season will be more difficult to win and the chances will likely shrink if the competitors can improve well in the late to early season. If you can return to performing consistently, it shouldn't be difficult for Napoli to defend the Scudetto title, at least finish as runners-up, and have the chance to win again.

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Quote from: Doell on August 07, 2023, 10:51:08 AM

Yes Sir, if Napoli can maintain their performance then they will get praise. Especially if Napoli can show a good performance in big competition UCL, then their fans will be very happy. By the way, currently Napoli already signed a defender player which has a great potential in the future. I mean Natan Bernardo de Souza, Brazil man is expected to be a suitable replacement in a defensive position. Although maybe not comparable with Min Jae because Natan is still relatively young, but at least Napoli strengthened their squad depth.

Yeah Natan was prepared to replace Min-jae Kim's position who has moved to Bayern Munich, Napoli managed to bring him in with a transfer fee of 10 million it seems that Napoli is trying to invest again. Just as I said before not much has changed for the Serie A clubs almost all clubs still rely on the old squad this means that Napoli has the opportunity to dominate Serie A again, I personally predict Napoli's chances for the title this season is 70% and its main competitor is probably Inter Milan.

Has anyone noticed Roma transfer activity? they haven't spent any money this season some of the players who came were on loan and free transfers while outgoing transfers they get 40 million, it seems that the financial crisis is happening to almost every Serie A club.

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Quote from: Doell on August 07, 2023, 10:51:08 AM

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Quote from: Doell on August 06, 2023, 11:34:59 AM

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Doubts about the new coach will surely continue to exist considering that what Spalletti gave last season was truly extraordinary and this will definitely be a pressure for Rudi Garcia. But on the other hand, of course, if they can maintain their performance like this then there will still be praise and I might not predict what they will be like now because last season I also talked about their condition and my prediction was wrong because it was too dependent on a number of players who they let go like Koulibally and Dries Mertens but it was Napoli's turning point.
There could be other possibilities now with the new Napoli coach being even better than last season although obviously this is definitely a pretty slim possibility.

Yes Sir, if Napoli can maintain their performance then they will get praise. Especially if Napoli can show a good performance in big competition UCL, then their fans will be very happy. By the way, currently Napoli already signed a defender player which has a great potential in the future. I mean Natan Bernardo de Souza, Brazil man is expected to be a suitable replacement in a defensive position. Although maybe not comparable with Min Jae because Natan is still relatively young, but at least Napoli strengthened their squad depth.

@Doell you're right because their performance last season got them the praise they've recieved and they have to do everything possible to maintain that performance as the defending champions of Italy, well I don't know much about Nathan Bernardo but looking Min Jae could really affect them this season if Natan doesn't have a good performance or fails to adapt quickly it means they'll have to look out for a better player for that position by the January transfer but hopefully he'll performance well since he's a young Brazilian.
Napoli don't have to lose any key player this season if they really want to have a good challenge because having a second consecutive win won't come easily now that other top Italian clubs have strengthen their teams especially AcMilan who are really busy I the transfer window signing top talented players across Europe

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Quote from: Raflesia on August 06, 2023, 05:58:52 PM

Quote from: Doell on August 06, 2023, 11:34:59 AM

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Doubts about the new coach will surely continue to exist considering that what Spalletti gave last season was truly extraordinary and this will definitely be a pressure for Rudi Garcia. But on the other hand, of course, if they can maintain their performance like this then there will still be praise and I might not predict what they will be like now because last season I also talked about their condition and my prediction was wrong because it was too dependent on a number of players who they let go like Koulibally and Dries Mertens but it was Napoli's turning point.
There could be other possibilities now with the new Napoli coach being even better than last season although obviously this is definitely a pretty slim possibility.

Yes Sir, if Napoli can maintain their performance then they will get praise. Especially if Napoli can show a good performance in big competition UCL, then their fans will be very happy. By the way, currently Napoli already signed a defender player which has a great potential in the future. I mean Natan Bernardo de Souza, Brazil man is expected to be a suitable replacement in a defensive position. Although maybe not comparable with Min Jae because Natan is still relatively young, but at least Napoli strengthened their squad depth.

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