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Quote from: hahay on July 18, 2023, 11:39:11 AM

Basically, if Juventus didn't drop points then Juventus could have been a tough competitor for Napoli but unfortunately, Juventus lost their ambition to catch Napoli because they had a bad case. But even though Napoli can dominate Serie A last season, at least I don't conclude the other teams are bad because after all, such inconsistencies are very natural. Also regarding Roma and Inter for me both remain good because after all, when one team cannot get maximum results in the local league then of course they can be more optimal in other competitions or tournaments. So yes, Roma and Inter still had good performance and results last season and for next season, of course we will expect a more competitive competition in the top zone.

The funniest thing about this is that they think this is a punishment only for Juventus and not for anyone else. But they are forgetting that instead of Juventus who was good enough to go, someone else who would not normally go but will go because of this will be attending these games.

This could end up with a result that is not as good, not saying that it will be, but there is a potential for it. Why not have the best team? Why have the team that will be lesser? In the end, I bet that Juventus will come back and win and be a lot better, and these teams will not be as good as people think, which will result with Juventus basically priding themselves for coming back while other teams will feel humiliated for not beating a team that's coming back from this trouble.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on July 18, 2023, 10:26:03 AM

I don't agree at all, Inter Milan had bad a performance at the start of the last season and they were unable and that's why we saw a huge gap between Inter Milan and Napoli this season and Inter Milan couldn't race with Napoli while time after time in the last weeks of the season Inter Milan had better performance and they even played in the final match of the champions league and there is the same story for Roma, however, Roma was a bit unlucky otherwise they could win the title and beat Sevilla.

It's true that Inter were very far behind at that time with Napoli and moreover Inter had lost a lot to weak teams that they should have been able to beat easily. But indeed, no one suspected something like this, even at that time I often lost money when betting on Inter's win. It looks like next season this will still happen for Inter and it is very likely that Napoli won't be the same as last season considering there are many things they have to fix with their new coach. I'm actually quite curious about what Juventus will display next season and maybe they can start little by little to try to reach the top place that has long been lost.

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Quote from: hahay on July 18, 2023, 11:39:11 AM

Basically, if Juventus didn't drop points then Juventus could have been a tough competitor for Napoli but unfortunately, Juventus lost their ambition to catch Napoli because they had a bad case. But even though Napoli can dominate Serie A last season, at least I don't conclude the other teams are bad because after all, such inconsistencies are very natural. Also regarding Roma and Inter for me both remain good because after all, when one team cannot get maximum results in the local league then of course they can be more optimal in other competitions or tournaments. So yes, Roma and Inter still had good performance and results last season and for next season, of course we will expect a more competitive competition in the top zone.

I see the difficulty of predicting the favorite club to win in Serie A, because normally we predict the winner from the team's performance. Meanwhile, another fact that is happening now is the case scandal that ensnared Juventus management which resulted in deducting the points obtained from the results of the match. So how well the team performs does not guarantee a club will win if the management breaks the rules. Napoli were able to dominate Serie A last season because Juventus were being hit by problems, next season history like this might happen again. So that makes it very difficult for us to predict the strongest candidate to win the Scudetto.

If next season goes as normal Inter Milan, AS Roma, Napoli and AC Milan are at the forefront of winning the Scudetto, I personally favor AS Roma because of Jose Mourinho.

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I just read the news about ronaldo claimed that if he was the main reason serie a gets back its popularity among the football fans again. He has said that if serie already dead once he was coming to the juventus, but he made serie is going up again and gained its popularity that already lost.
Do you guys agree with ronaldo's effect? The same thing is also happening when he was coming to the saudi pro league. More and more people were talking about SPL. SPL has become the most popular middle east league as for now.
It's quite difficult to say that if ronaldo doesn't bring impact to the league where he will be playing on. My main concern is ronaldo has biggest fan bases in the world. That makes sense if he said that if he was the main reason why serie a can survive till now.
It's caused by serie a way dead once he was coming tot he juventus. I do know that if his haters will be saying big NO for ronaldo's effect, especially messi fans.

The fact that if his supporter will always be folloing him where ronaldo will be going on. Ronaldo's effect is real to me.

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Quote from: masulum on July 18, 2023, 11:46:24 AM

Well, Morata has made headlines in the Serie-A transfer market since last week. The last, what I read from romapress.net, this media stated that based on information from journalist Augusto Ciardi, Roma and Morata had reached a personal agreement. Currently the negotiation process is still being carried out with Atletico. I do not know whether Icardi's statement will be as valid as Romano's or not. We'll see how the transfer will be within a week from now, maybe there will be a clear news about the Morata transfer process.

^{News: https://romapress.net/alvaro-morata-agrees-to-terms-with-roma/}

thank you very much for this information
The news you deliver is great news for Roma and its passionate fans

I am very sure that he will do very well for Roma, a great team in the Italian league

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Quote from: fzkto on July 18, 2023, 10:28:56 AM

Last season Napoli showed from the start of the season that they would be the leaders because they didn't lose 15 games in a row. Even then it was clear that the other clubs would not be able to get to the top. Of course, next season everything should change after the leave of a key player and the change of the coach. The competition will probably be high.

yes what you say is true, he has had a long line of victories
he imposed the pace on teams that were perhaps tired and not in perfect physical shape (see Juventus, see Milan)
she had the right amount of cunning, luck and strength that made her win the championship

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Quote from: fuguebtc on July 17, 2023, 03:54:30 PM

They are just too much about his transfer recently. I don't know if it is going to be a good idea to trust the media right now with his transfer Because the media can certainly say a lot of things which might not be true. I also heard that he was going to Inter Milan. But now I am not sure. I also do not see any official news as of now. So I actually cannot say anything for sure.

But I can say that it will probably not be the best idea for him to go to Roma. First of all, he might have to take less salary. He will also have competition in Roma. For the player, it will probably be best if he goes to Milan in my opinion. Because the club needs strikers right now. So it will probably be the best decision for him. But being the main striker also brings in the burden of performance.

Well, Morata has made headlines in the Serie-A transfer market since last week. The last, what I read from romapress.net, this media stated that based on information from journalist Augusto Ciardi, Roma and Morata had reached a personal agreement. Currently the negotiation process is still being carried out with Atletico. I do not know whether Icardi's statement will be as valid as Romano's or not. We'll see how the transfer will be within a week from now, maybe there will be a clear news about the Morata transfer process.

^{News: https://romapress.net/alvaro-morata-agrees-to-terms-with-roma/}

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Quote from: fzkto on July 18, 2023, 10:28:56 AM

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About Roma, I agree with you. They didn't do well in Serie A, but they played in the Europa League final. This is already a good result for them. I don't agree about Inter. They did very well in Serie A and played in the Champions League final no worse than Manchester City. It's just that Napoli didn't give anyone a chance in Italy this season, so it seems that the other clubs played badly.

this season in Serie A maybe only Napoli are playing consistently. whereas other strong teams such as Juventus, Inter, Milan, and Roma tend to play inconsistently. we cannot guarantee Napoli's game will be the same this season as last season. what is clear is that there are several players who have come and also moved into the transfer market this summer. so we can't measure the strength of each team last season. what is clear is that this season we definitely want to see how Serie A becomes even more competitive with solid teams.

Last season Napoli showed from the start of the season that they would be the leaders because they didn't lose 15 games in a row. Even then it was clear that the other clubs would not be able to get to the top. Of course, next season everything should change after the leave of a key player and the change of the coach. The competition will probably be high.

Basically, if Juventus didn't drop points then Juventus could have been a tough competitor for Napoli but unfortunately, Juventus lost their ambition to catch Napoli because they had a bad case. But even though Napoli can dominate Serie A last season, at least I don't conclude the other teams are bad because after all, such inconsistencies are very natural. Also regarding Roma and Inter for me both remain good because after all, when one team cannot get maximum results in the local league then of course they can be more optimal in other competitions or tournaments. So yes, Roma and Inter still had good performance and results last season and for next season, of course we will expect a more competitive competition in the top zone.

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Quote from: Awaklara on July 18, 2023, 09:45:30 AM

Quote from: fzkto on July 18, 2023, 09:37:58 AM

About Roma, I agree with you. They didn't do well in Serie A, but they played in the Europa League final. This is already a good result for them. I don't agree about Inter. They did very well in Serie A and played in the Champions League final no worse than Manchester City. It's just that Napoli didn't give anyone a chance in Italy this season, so it seems that the other clubs played badly.

this season in Serie A maybe only Napoli are playing consistently. whereas other strong teams such as Juventus, Inter, Milan, and Roma tend to play inconsistently. we cannot guarantee Napoli's game will be the same this season as last season. what is clear is that there are several players who have come and also moved into the transfer market this summer. so we can't measure the strength of each team last season. what is clear is that this season we definitely want to see how Serie A becomes even more competitive with solid teams.

Last season Napoli showed from the start of the season that they would be the leaders because they didn't lose 15 games in a row. Even then it was clear that the other clubs would not be able to get to the top. Of course, next season everything should change after the leave of a key player and the change of the coach. The competition will probably be high.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on July 18, 2023, 09:31:10 AM

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PSG is interested in signing Dušan Vlahović. I think we will see Dušan Vlahović with PSG next season. And that would certainly be good for both Dušan Vlahović and PSG. Dušan Vlahović may become more experienced with PSG coach Luis Enrique.

Yes, if Dusan Vlahovi joined to PSG maybe will get more experience under Enrique leadership. Also at there is not too competitive as Serie A, there is a possibility he will be shine a lot more. But unfortunately, it seems PSG plans are not going to go smoothly, I read the news today in the local media that the most influential fan group in paris made open warning, it was horrible. You can see here, (twitter juve_canal). With that warning, I think it seems like Dusan Vlahovic would not be interested in joining PSG.

How PSG management will build their squad for next season is still in the dark. With Messi and Mbappe gone, their attack will be weak. Now we are not sure if PSG will have a long-term plan with Luis Enrique or if they will spend big money and buy experienced players again. But PSG should plan for the long term. Because the PSG management has not got the expected performance despite spending a lot of money in the last few years. Luis Enrique will be able to build a strong and stable team in the next 2-1 years if he builds the team with young talented players.

Previously, Chelsea and MU were considered the ideal destination for Vlahovic. However, the delay of the two Premier League giants forced PSG to step in and quickly make a big step in this deal. PSG's job now is to close the transfer price with Juventus. The Turin team wants to earn 70-80 million euros from the sale of Vlahovic. If Vlahovic leaves, Juventus will likely recruit Romelu Lukaku to replace him.

PSG fans want the club to appoint a French coach and sign local stars. Therefore, Enrique faces a difficult task. As happened many times in the previous season, PSG fans repeatedly protested. They criticized and mocked Messi and Neymar right at the Parc des Princes and even went to the houses of these stars. Only success and titles can help Enrique and his teammates win the hearts of the fans.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on July 18, 2023, 08:26:54 AM

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Inter Milan have fared better than AS Roma last season. But the saddest part is that the team failed to secure the Champions League title. Inter Milan is doing great to correct the mistakes of the team and add some players for next season.

Intermilan and as roma doing bad last season. These clubs unable to win UEL and UCL. All of serie candidates lost in the final. It's very heard to repeat such moment again. As roma is not adding a lot of players but intermilan has sold so many players during summer transfer. I doubt if intermilan will able to perform same like previous season. So many important players were leaving from the club. There will be a lot of change gonna happen in the club.

I doubt if intermilan will able to compete in UCL again. The new players need to adapt with the new environment as soon as possible. Intermilan has no dzeko, onana even lukaku next season.
Brozovic has been leaving from the club too.

I don't agree at all, Inter Milan had bad a performance at the start of the last season and they were unable and that's why we saw a huge gap between Inter Milan and Napoli this season and Inter Milan couldn't race with Napoli while time after time in the last weeks of the season Inter Milan had better performance and they even played in the final match of the champions league and there is the same story for Roma, however, Roma was a bit unlucky otherwise they could win the title and beat Sevilla.

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Quote from: Raflesia on July 18, 2023, 05:47:27 AM

But it is interesting now to see what steps Chelsea will take after overhauling a lot of players who were just released. with the fresh funds they have from the sale actually Vlahovic is also still possible to bring in but as you said, there are several other options about this although it is likely that Vlahovic is one of the players prioritized.
Besides, some news about the exchange of Vlahovic and Lukaku is also still quite busy at this time so this can also be used as one of the good and mutually beneficial options for them

By selling some players to Saudi clubs and got big money from them, Chelsea have good transfer budget and no longer have to worry about financial observation and investigation from UEFA against their club finance. It might come back in future but in this summer, they are good and can enjoy this transfer season to rebuild their team.

Between Lukaku and Vlahovic, Vlahovic is younger and can be useful for Chelsea so it is good for them if they can complete the deal with Juventus. I still don't think Juventus will be ready to lose Vlahovic because they know that striker is younger and has a longer career than Lukaku.

Chelsea has the opportunity to generate income by offloading players, as they possess talented individuals who may not be performing at their best for the club. These players, although not currently shining for Chelsea, have the potential to excel in other teams. Hence, by transferring them to other clubs, Chelsea can acquire new players. However, the catch is that they must part ways with these individuals.

Getting Vlahović instead of Lukaku seems like the wiser choice. Lukaku, the drama-seeking player, is unwanted by clubs due to his dramatic tendencies. Vlahović, on the other hand, offers better value for money.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on July 18, 2023, 08:26:54 AM

Intermilan and as roma doing bad last season. These clubs unable to win UEL and UCL. All of serie candidates lost in the final. It's very heard to repeat such moment again. As roma is not adding a lot of players but intermilan has sold so many players during summer transfer. I doubt if intermilan will able to perform same like previous season. So many important players were leaving from the club. There will be a lot of change gonna happen in the club.

Not coming out as UEL and UCL champions doesn't mean Inter Milan's performance is bad, it's just that they are not so good at Manchester City in the final. Inter Milan have shown big changes over the last few years and last season they did well in the UCL, although they didn't manage to come out as champions. But to ensure that next season Inter Milan will play the same as last season maybe it will be different because there are many players who have left and need a team overhaul.

Quote from: shinratensei_ on July 18, 2023, 08:26:54 AM

I doubt if intermilan will able to compete in UCL again. The new players need to adapt with the new environment as soon as possible. Intermilan has no dzeko, onana even lukaku next season.
Brozovic has been leaving from the club too.

The reshuffle of the team will definitely affect their performances next season and I think Inter Milan will have a bit of a hard time competing in the UCL because a lot of good players have left the club this season. So there are many things they need to do next season because relying on existing strengths will make it difficult for Inter Milan in the competition.

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Rumors of Lukaku preferring Juventus' offer over Inter sparked anger from Inter fans. In fact, Lukaku's decision seemed like a big betrayal of Inter, even though his performance last season prevented Inter from winning the Champions League, but the fans realized and forgave him.

This is the statement from Inter's Curva Nord ultras group:

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"Never see each other again, Lukaku".

“You have betrayed all of us. We always defended you in difficult moments, now you give us a stab”.

You are selling yourself to the highest bidder after kissing our badge.”

"You're not a real man".

I think Lukaku is like a peanut forgetting his skin and his decision has earned him the hatred of all Inter fans. Perhaps what he has emphasized on the fans has now only served as a disappointment for them.

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1681264615022264320?s=20

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Quote from: fzkto on July 18, 2023, 09:37:58 AM

About Roma, I agree with you. They didn't do well in Serie A, but they played in the Europa League final. This is already a good result for them. I don't agree about Inter. They did very well in Serie A and played in the Champions League final no worse than Manchester City. It's just that Napoli didn't give anyone a chance in Italy this season, so it seems that the other clubs played badly.

this season in Serie A maybe only Napoli are playing consistently. whereas other strong teams such as Juventus, Inter, Milan, and Roma tend to play inconsistently. we cannot guarantee Napoli's game will be the same this season as last season. what is clear is that there are several players who have come and also moved into the transfer market this summer. so we can't measure the strength of each team last season. what is clear is that this season we definitely want to see how Serie A becomes even more competitive with solid teams.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on July 18, 2023, 08:26:54 AM

Quote from: MuffinMaster on July 18, 2023, 07:32:48 AM

Inter Milan have fared better than AS Roma last season. But the saddest part is that the team failed to secure the Champions League title. Inter Milan is doing great to correct the mistakes of the team and add some players for next season.

Intermilan and as roma doing bad last season. These clubs unable to win UEL and UCL. All of serie candidates lost in the final. It's very heard to repeat such moment again. As roma is not adding a lot of players but intermilan has sold so many players during summer transfer. I doubt if intermilan will able to perform same like previous season. So many important players were leaving from the club. There will be a lot of change gonna happen in the club.

I doubt if intermilan will able to compete in UCL again. The new players need to adapt with the new environment as soon as possible. Intermilan has no dzeko, onana even lukaku next season.
Brozovic has been leaving from the club too.

About Roma, I agree with you. They didn't do well in Serie A, but they played in the Europa League final. This is already a good result for them. I don't agree about Inter. They did very well in Serie A and played in the Champions League final no worse than Manchester City. It's just that Napoli didn't give anyone a chance in Italy this season, so it seems that the other clubs played badly.

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Quote from: Doell on July 17, 2023, 04:23:06 PM

Quote from: LittleBitFunny on July 17, 2023, 03:25:38 PM

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PSG is interested in signing Dušan Vlahović. I think we will see Dušan Vlahović with PSG next season. And that would certainly be good for both Dušan Vlahović and PSG. Dušan Vlahović may become more experienced with PSG coach Luis Enrique.

Yes, if Dusan Vlahovi joined to PSG maybe will get more experience under Enrique leadership. Also at there is not too competitive as Serie A, there is a possibility he will be shine a lot more. But unfortunately, it seems PSG plans are not going to go smoothly, I read the news today in the local media that the most influential fan group in paris made open warning, it was horrible. You can see here, (twitter juve_canal). With that warning, I think it seems like Dusan Vlahovic would not be interested in joining PSG.

How PSG management will build their squad for next season is still in the dark. With Messi and Mbappe gone, their attack will be weak. Now we are not sure if PSG will have a long-term plan with Luis Enrique or if they will spend big money and buy experienced players again. But PSG should plan for the long term. Because the PSG management has not got the expected performance despite spending a lot of money in the last few years. Luis Enrique will be able to build a strong and stable team in the next 2-1 years if he builds the team with young talented players.

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Quote from: MuffinMaster on July 18, 2023, 07:32:48 AM

Inter Milan have fared better than AS Roma last season. But the saddest part is that the team failed to secure the Champions League title. Inter Milan is doing great to correct the mistakes of the team and add some players for next season.

Intermilan and as roma doing bad last season. These clubs unable to win UEL and UCL. All of serie candidates lost in the final. It's very heard to repeat such moment again. As roma is not adding a lot of players but intermilan has sold so many players during summer transfer. I doubt if intermilan will able to perform same like previous season. So many important players were leaving from the club. There will be a lot of change gonna happen in the club.

I doubt if intermilan will able to compete in UCL again. The new players need to adapt with the new environment as soon as possible. Intermilan has no dzeko, onana even lukaku next season.
Brozovic has been leaving from the club too.

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Quote from: Uruhara on July 17, 2023, 07:15:16 PM

But it seems that Juventus are in talks with Chelsea regarding Vlahovic. Because several English clubs also want this one player. Vlahovic can indeed be a good spearhead for Chelsea. But if PSG are in the race then I think things will be complicated. But not only Chelsea and PSG but Newcastle also want Vlahovic. However, the most active approach to Vlahovic at the moment is Chelsea. even Chelsea made an offer and added a player exchange, namely with Lukaku. everything is still not clear. but Juventus really still need Vlahovic. but Juventus really need to sell it if they want to strengthen the club's financial cash.

There's no further development was coming from chelsea & vlahovic. vlahovic already rumored very close in joining juventus as a new player. That's gonna be a very bad thing for chelsea. In my opinion that if chelsea is not always putting him as priority.
The club has got some good names from the market. Why does chelsea need to sign another striker? that sounds non sense for me to be honest. I will prefer to see chelsea think about how to get midfielder or defenders.
that's enough for chelsea in recruiting so many strikers from the market. It's now the time for pochettino to strengthen mid and def.
We have seen how weak chelsea last season. Signing vlahovic will be only adding more problems as chelsea will have so many strikers. It will make the competition very strict.

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Quote from: Raflesia on July 18, 2023, 05:47:27 AM

But it is interesting now to see what steps Chelsea will take after overhauling a lot of players who were just released. with the fresh funds they have from the sale actually Vlahovic is also still possible to bring in but as you said, there are several other options about this although it is likely that Vlahovic is one of the players prioritized.
Besides, some news about the exchange of Vlahovic and Lukaku is also still quite busy at this time so this can also be used as one of the good and mutually beneficial options for them.
This week has been really busy for some of the big clubs but it's quite normal.
Transfers are getting closer and closer to the end and they need to secure some of the players they are after because if not this could make them fail to realize what they want for next season.

Juventus performance may be impacted by the likely release of Vlahovic but the organisation may have alternate plans to improve their team. Chelsea may have difficulties as a result of psg strong pursuit of Vlahovic but there are still questions about PSG dedication in light of previous scandals. Chelsea is still a serious candidate to sign vlahovic and they are also keeping an eye on Kolo Muani and Elye Wahi as potential strikers.
Chelsea might compete well because it has raised significant money from player sales but adding further talented players might also be a wise move. In the end Juventus may be happy to let PSG secure Vlahovic while they keep looking for a suitable successor.

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