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Topic: It’s getting hard to pump and dump Bitcoin - page 2. (Read 475 times)

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September 13, 2018, 05:11:35 AM
#30
yes maybe a big influence from a less stable investor now makes bitcoin prices go down,
but if the price does not go up and down the name is not the market, because what is called the market, whether it is the modern market or the vegetable market or the crypto market, the price must go up and down.
and in my opinion it is still normal.
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September 13, 2018, 04:33:33 AM
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It's not as easier to manipulate bitcoin market as it was done previously by Chinese gamblers when China dominated the bitcoin market.But still manipulation is done and media is used nowadays to do manipulation by spreading either positive or negative news about bitcoin.
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September 11, 2018, 02:37:18 PM
#28
The usual pump and bump especially of bitcoin isn't feasible as more investors are getting enlightened and due to the stringent situations surrounding Bitcoin at the current (from SEC), it is difficult for Bitcoin to have stedy bull run as experienced in 2017.
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September 11, 2018, 12:10:56 PM
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Those people have hold lot of bitcoin they easily pump and dump bitcoin. And also a lot of factors depends on when bull run coming so bitcoin price pump also when will ETF approve bitcoin price is pump.
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September 11, 2018, 09:43:04 AM
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Pump and dump is always in the bitcoin, but dump is simple and pump is hard. Capitalization bitcoin very much growing and the price more increasing, bitcoin price should grow organically and ahead of time the price of bitcoin will grow.
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The uncomfortable fact that the whole cryptocurrency ecosystem seems to be tethered to Tether is pretty disturbing. If a USD backed crypto token is so needed, it raises a lot of questions about the long term viability of the whole ecosystem.
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Well, as if yes, it is quite understandable why this happens. capitalization bitkoin very much growing ... if you look in perspective. So yes, to carry out various manipulations becomes more and more difficult and complicated. However, I think this is good news ... such jumps in the cost of bitcoin will be less and less with time (due to increased capitalization)
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Your title is about bitcoin pump and dump,but your thread is about tether.
Tether has little to almost nothing to do with manipulating the bitcoin price.By the way,the bitcoin price can still be easily manipulated,despite the 209 billion market cap.All we need is a good working propaganda machine that will spread a lie about bitcoin "going to the moon" very soon.The majority of the corwd will start buying bitcoin like crazy.
Tether definitely has it's part in manipulation, it's been used for it previously and i am sure it's still used if possible for it.
If Tether issued in a legit way then it has nothing to do with manipulation because if it is really backed by $ then its not called manipulation and it is real market, until we have a solid proof that Tether has been printed out without real $ backup we can't really say that Tether has been used in any kind of manipulation, to my knowledge until this very moment  there is no proof that Tether is printed without $ backup.
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For me this is a good sign nobody's buying the BS and hype anymore , bitcoin price should grow organically and should not be manipulated by certain individual who pump and dump the price of Bitcoin for their own benefit. Sooner of later Bitcoin price will grow.
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Doing pump is hard yet dump is simple. We require enormous financial specialists to pump and vacillate the value, mass reception is required. Presently we are on dumping stage where everything is on dump yet this doesn't mean an awful thought reason everything is okay and great aim this exclusive means this time is on the right track to contribute and holding up to pump
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Yeah it true.for a speculator getting mooched by the market, there's solitary two things that will happen: one, get more quick witted and gain from the error, and two, leave this space for good. Its all demands your actions towards your decision
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Yeah, sad news. Let's hope that by the winter, bitcoin will return to the mark of $ 20,000, and better than $ 50,000, but with today's course it seems unreal.
Expecting the price to jump to $50,000 isn't a good thing. A stable rise is better than skyrocketing. And reaching this goal requires more people to invest and adopt bitcoin. As more people starts to adopt bitcoin, we will see a gradual rise of the price. Sudden jump would just make people confuse, cause people to panic ( like they wouldn't be sure if they should hold or cash out) and FUD will start spreading all around. Do  we want that?

Most people fail to see anything beyond "higher price = good". In this case he just said "oh this means it's bad because it's harder for the price to go up" when I think it's pretty obvious that a deviation from amount of Tether printed to price of the actual asset (BTC) in question ratio is pretty positive.

But Bitcoin is actually pretty easy to pump for any of the proper big whales out there. If a billionaire wanted to diversify and buy some BTC the price would explode.

Until we are sitting on a couple trillion marketcap on BTC alone the volatility will still be pretty evident, but then again that was the case with gold back then too.
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If it is getting hard to pump or dump, then it is good for us because speculators will hard to manipulate the market price.
Actually there are already many P & D groups trying to make profit from this kind of activity which is not good for us the holders.
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Of course, for an investor getting bummed by the market, there's only two things that will happen: one, get smarter and learn from the mistake, and two, leave this space for good. IMO, the latter must be true. Most investors have learned and were not quick to get swayed by the market.
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until today tether still has many mysteries that cannot be solved easily, so, my argument that Tether is better used to store assets. tether market is very stable and follows USD.

some crypto figures like Barry Leybovich and Charlie Lie make a statement that the increase in bitcoin prices reaching 20K is affected by Tether's trading activities.
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Wow, this is all news for me, sorry for being a newbie, but I will watch this thread as I see that many experienced traders and crypto enthusiasts arr replying with a lesson in this thread, but for what I see in this pump and dump, I think many investors and even large. companies that invests in Bitcoin also think that the cryptomarket is a bubble so they just pump and dump with a little percentage of profit, and this is only what I would contribute with this discussion.
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but a direct "pump and dump" is difficult IMO without the top 10 or 20
or 100 bitcoin holders making an organised campaign to do so.
It would be a different thing to pumping and dumping shit coins.
I think saying that pumping and dumping are difficult to do without the top 10,20 or 100 bitcoin holders is an exaggeration. IMO, it is easy for anyone with access(who can easily pay) many news platforms like cointelegraph to control the market price through market sentiment. They can control market sentiment by spreading fake news but it is indeed a different thing when compared to pumping and dumping shit coins.
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it seems to me that when the HYIP starts again on a crypto currency everything will again be easy to pump up and everything will start growing very quickly again
legendary
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There is trouble abrewing
unfortunately the altcoin market has left a bad expectation among people specifically the newcomers. they look over there and see the pump and dumps and they think to themselves that bitcoin should be the same.
but then they come over here and see things are very different. but until then they will make silly claims like this.
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There has been a lot of pump.and dump in bitcoin but not enough to create a bullrun. Many of us are waiting for bitcoin to recover. There has been a lot of manipulation going on and i think these has resulted to a recovery for some if they were able to ride the tide. Its not easy to see whats happening with bitcoin because its fluctuations are abrupt and sometimes just a little. For now the best thing to do is watch and be ready.
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