Topic: Its not human vs machine its human vs human - page 2. (Read 353 times)

For now yes they can't reduce much people. That's because they are not that intelligent but I think their knowledge are improving from time to time. It was being injected to them by their developers. Along with this is many people are slowly getting removed from their work because the AI and ML can now do that job much better than them and they can also operate longer with a much lesser cost when it comes to maintenance than paying a worker and it's overtime fees.

Evolving technology is beneficial but it can also cost a harm if one over use them or use them in a non proper way. I am mostly referring to the gadgets that we have today such as mobile phones and computers.

I totally agree with you when you say new jobs will be created, so we don't need to worry AIs are replacing human activity on several fields of society. That is part of progress and we should be happy for that, as with technological development we have access to more resources and comfort in our lives. I believed humans had learned since a long ago machines aren't here to compete against us, but to serve us, however I see I was wrong, because there is still a popular point of view in our days claiming machines (AIs) are against us, prejudicing us in our working fields.

Exactly. It's all about the way these people use it, which is exploitative.

Just take art for example, AI prompters joining legitimate digital art contests using results from AI prompts? That's just downright scammy and fraudulent. Plus the fact that AI fetches its data from thousands of artists across the globe to create soulless, purposeless art is something that doesn't sit well with this community. As an artist myself, I get a sense of heightened confidence when I hear people tell me that my art style inspired them, or that they loved my artstyle they are trying to copy it, but in the case of AI, there's no gratitude, there's no one thanking or no one to get thanked. Which is why they are angry at AI prompters, cos this is outright stealing.

Conclusion from what you say I completely agree. By taking the right approach, humans can leverage this technology to expand their capabilities and improve their performance. Thus, the presence of machines and technology should not be seen as a threat to human work, but rather as an opportunity to create a future where humans and machines can work together in harmony and complement each other.

Are you sure that didn't happen? If you look at this article[1], the study greatly emphasize the effect of implementation of a machine in certain field.  It was stated that in every robot added in every 1000 workers in the US, wages decline by 0.4% and the employment to population ratio goes down to 0.2% which means 400,000 may loss their job and has more impact on the areas where robots are implemented[1].


Imagine, if AI is implemented with automation and robots, who needs a human to operate the machine?  They just need a single person to turn on and off those machines since they don't need to be supervised due to AI system.  It is also possible that the machine themselves can turn on and off so there is actually no need for a single person to be involved on the operation except for maintenance.

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[1] https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/a-new-study-measures-actual-impact-robots-jobs-its-significant

While AI and ML do have the potential to increase efficiency and improve workplace safety, it's important to remember that they may also have unintended consequences. It's important to consider the potential impact on jobs and workforces, and to ensure that the benefits of these technologies are widely shared. Additionally, it's not necessarily productive to label individuals as "lazy" and seek to remove them from society. A more constructive approach may involve providing education and training opportunities to help people adapt to the changing job market.

I am sure critical thinking or logical reasoning is something that humans can do all the time and with high precision, however the same power of thinking is being used to create such AI programs. Now when it comes to AI they are coded with self learning algorithm. This means they have the capability to think, work on a problem and find a solution for it.

How much time did it take us to go from earth to moon? And then to the Mars and then to the deep space? With the available resources and human intelligence it took literally a Gods 1 day!

Similarly we are working very very fast on the AI development and in a decades time I am 100% sure they will replace almost everything in the labour to skilled industry.

I had looked into this hyped AI ML and such, I would conclude it is the typical short term solution to a long term problems. What machine excel to human is always the amount of workload it can output for an energy input. Machine could get so much efficiency. but you have disregard one very facts, there is no unlimited growth, everything contained in this universe is finited sources. even the energy photon itself is finited resource, when every economist talk about ML AI they are often overwhelmed it with unlimited utopian growth. Why I know abou it? Clearly every metal has very limited durability, you can make your machine to work very hard, but there is just so much you can extract the resource from the metal before it begin to disintegrate itself due to stress test, it has been known fact no machine can deliver unlimited growth, you can't bend the laws of physical world.

Hahaha, Op only replying to your Title it is really weird to know that it's human vs human I think that's not true at all, In my observations, Ai and Machines are directly affecting Human jobs and services. no doubt Machines are cheap, fast, and reliable. A few years back in every small office accountant was a must and at least 2 or 3 accounts were hired for managing the finance regardless of the total trading capital after a few years computers affected accountant's jobs and after a few more years software took maximum accounts automated and now AI and inventory management system eliminated the Human Labor on any major or minor store.

From stock management to sales and from accounts management to customers everything is automated by AI and Human interaction is close to zero which is dangerous I think. Furthermore now in remote services, IT and Soft skills, AI is dominating.

In different sectors of the economy, the degree of possible implementation of artificial intelligence (AI) will be different. But it is undeniable that part of the AI will replace the jobs of people. It is beneficial for managers of private enterprises to replace people with automated robots in production. They are always less of a problem. Therefore, this trend will continue.

I also do not fully support the assertion that the introduction of AI continues only the competition of man against man. AI already sometimes shows the results of its work much higher than a person. Moreover, even in mental abilities, abilities in analyzing and assessing the situation and choosing the right solution. The assertion that AI will only work with the information that is put into it by a person is not confirmed. Already, AI is able to improve and create new information based on analysis. In the future, this ability will be greatly enhanced.

Nobody can stop the advancement of technology because there will always be discoveries that will make work easier. The human mind is creative and innovative which will always result in better ways of accomplishing tasks. Artificial Intelligence will not make man unemployed rather it will expose man to better techniques for doing their jobs. It will also lead to unemployment and the victims will be those that refuse to embrace new technologies.

I was speaking to some of my friends that were worried about the discoveries of AI and I told them that if they don't want to lose their jobs they should go and learn how to apply AIs to their fields. If a mechanic wants to be relevant in his field in the nearest future, he needs to learn how to use AIs to diagnose faults and fix them. This is because regardless of how sophisticated an AI might be, it will always be controlled and supervised by humans.    

I quite agree with you, many people are afraid of the presence of AI because they are worried that AI will replace their jobs or AI will try to destroy human civilization itself. Even though this is a very good technology if used in various fields globally. There are many jobs that will be assisted by the presence of this AI technology, for example, such as data analysis which will become faster and more accurate or disease diagnosis will become more accurate. That will all be achieved using AI technology.

I think that instead of worrying about AI technology, it's better for us to study how this technology works and make it better, you don't need to think too far that this technology will control us or even destroy us, because humans will still have control over this technology with knowledge that we have, and that's how we've lived since ancient times.

Efficiency is the bottomline. No chance that people will be needless on different work industries simply because human mind is still dofferent from AI. Indeed AI would be at the advantage for technicalities and information but think of how many different industries are there which requires skills human could only provide. Perhaps with school setting; AI learning tools would indeed help but the guidance and drive of the teacher to impart knowledge would make learning deeper. Let us accept advancements has benefits but two should only coexist and not to remove the other just because one appears to be more 'useful'; each one will have their own role. So I do think that such thing is impossible even in the modern years of our lives.

We cannot deny that in this era many jobs have been replaced by robots and AI. Therefore we are required to be more creative and able to develop abilities that are not possessed by artificial intelligence. As humans, we have emotions and the things that create innovation. We just need to control this skill while maintaining existence. It cannot be underestimated, even in my remote place, some people have been able to take advantage of what robots and AI offer to complete tasks. This means that little by little the shift is real and we can see it clearly.

See the machine industry, textile-producing factories and many more have taken advantage of the sophistication of the machine. So the point is, no matter how much we think about this shift, this fact will make our eyes wide open about the era that has shifted to an automated system.

I also have the same thought as you, AI and ML will not create widespread unemployment, but they will bring greater efficiency in production as well as support people in heavy jobs to help people reduce accidents at work. Everything has pros and cons, but evolving technology offers more benefits than people worry about. For those who fear machines will take their jobs, they will work harder, and so we will soon remove lazy members from society.

During the industrial revolution back in the 18th and 19th centuries, many people were afraid that the industrialization and the massive implementation of machines would cause extremely high levels of unemployment. That didn't happen.
Nowadays, we are witnessing that same fears about AI. I don't believe that AI would cause big unemployment. Perhaps implementing AI could cause a boost in efficiency and cutting all the "bullshit jobs", that are a problem right now inside the big bureaucratic structures of the multi-national corporations. Most of the people will have to adapt and survive(by learning new skills).
The "average Joe" won't lose his working class social status because of AI.

In simple terms, AI working on orders or programs from humans. The meaning no matter how much or how skilled AI is, it still needs humans as their main control. Especially the daily or weekly routine maintenance part, because if an error occurs in that machine it will have very fatal consequences, especially if it is placed in the industry.

You have made an excellent point that the impact of AI and ML in the work place and  is largely determined by how humans choose to use them. While some fear that machines will replace human workers, the reality is that these technologies work same as human skills and create new job opportunities. But, it is important to be mindful of the biases and work that can be reflected in the development and deployment of those technologies, and to work towards a future where humans and machines can work together in harmony.

The trend of artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning has increas3 a debate about the role of technology in the workplace. One of fear that robots and automation will replace human worker but others argue that machines will enhance human capabilities and create new jobs opportunities.  we often overlook an important factor of its not human vs. machine, but its human vs human.
I thing It is mechanical era.This need super human with high intellect to survive.mechanics applies in digital area.I related it with machine.

Impact of AI
The reality is that Artificial intelligence are already changing the way of work but their impact is not uniform across all professions. For example AI and ML are transforming the health care industry by enabling faster and more accurate diagnsis while in the financial sector, they are used to detect fraud and manage risk.

Well said, little elaboration : Humans (that use AI) vs Humans (that don't use AI).
Bu the success of these technologies is not only dependent on their technical capabilities. it is determined by how humans interact with them. For instanc if healthcare professionals are resistant to using AI powered find tools because they fear it will undermine their expertise that is why full potential of the technology will not be realized.
Conclusion:
Machine Uses only specific things and there is a limit when machine Recycle everything made by machine that why Machines are limited