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legendary
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August 22, 2015, 04:55:28 PM
#41
Bitcon's reputation has been thoroughly damaged from this, might take months for investors to feel safe investing. Media has made this sound worse than it is.

You're the one making it sound worse than it is.  It's your reputation that's going to suffer.  You might scare the idiots who don't know any better, but anyone who understands the situation and isn't running around like a headless chicken will recognise you for the fraud you are.  

Eventually publicity will stop and itll die quietly.

You're giving it more publicity by continuing to talk lie about it.  Pretty sure you've started more threads about it than anyone else on the board (and spread more misinformation than everyone else combined).

When are you going to apologise for spreading the flagrant myth that using Bitcoin core means you're somehow magically immune from IP logging and blacklisting but XT has just suddenly introduced those concepts because they are teh evils?  You simply can't argue with the fact that any peer to peer software, whether it be filesharing networks, Bitcoin or something else entirely, can log or blacklist your IP.  Nodes running core can log or blacklist your IP, so it's not something that's unique to XT.  If you run a node, you can log or ban as many IPs as you like, whether you run XT or Core makes no difference.  Either you understand this simple fact and continue to talk shit regardless because you're dishonest, or you don't understand this simple fact and aren't qualified to give an opinion.  



I give very little credibility to turtle hurricane as he is basically spouting FUD at this point.
For example he claimed it will take decades to fill up the 1mb blocks.  
Not sure who brainwashed him, but they did a good job.

I take back what I said to Peter R, lol. We do have one 1 MB'er on the board, but he's spouting such nonsensical garbage that it makes a lot of sense that he is a disinformation agent of some type. Does it count towards the 1 MB advocates if he's only extolling that position for effect?  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1008
Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
August 22, 2015, 04:48:30 PM
#40
Bitcon's reputation has been thoroughly damaged from this, might take months for investors to feel safe investing. Media has made this sound worse than it is.

You're the one making it sound worse than it is.  It's your reputation that's going to suffer.  You might scare the idiots who don't know any better, but anyone who understands the situation and isn't running around like a headless chicken will recognise you for the fraud you are.  

Eventually publicity will stop and itll die quietly.

You're giving it more publicity by continuing to talk lie about it.  Pretty sure you've started more threads about it than anyone else on the board (and spread more misinformation than everyone else combined).

When are you going to apologise for spreading the flagrant myth that using Bitcoin core means you're somehow magically immune from IP logging and blacklisting but XT has just suddenly introduced those concepts because they are teh evils?  You simply can't argue with the fact that any peer to peer software, whether it be filesharing networks, Bitcoin or something else entirely, can log or blacklist your IP.  Nodes running core can log or blacklist your IP, so it's not something that's unique to XT.  If you run a node, you can log or ban as many IPs as you like, whether you run XT or Core makes no difference.  Either you understand this simple fact and continue to talk shit regardless because you're dishonest, or you don't understand this simple fact and aren't qualified to give an opinion.  



I give very little credibility to turtle hurricane as he is basically spouting FUD at this point.
For example he claimed it will take decades to fill up the 1mb blocks. 
Not sure who brainwashed him, but they did a good job.

legendary
Activity: 3948
Merit: 3191
Leave no FUD unchallenged
August 22, 2015, 04:17:27 PM
#39
Bitcon's reputation has been thoroughly damaged from this, might take months for investors to feel safe investing. Media has made this sound worse than it is.

You're the one making it sound worse than it is.  It's your reputation that's going to suffer.  You might scare the idiots who don't know any better, but anyone who understands the situation and isn't running around like a headless chicken will recognise you for the fraud you are.  

Eventually publicity will stop and itll die quietly.

You're giving it more publicity by continuing to talk lie about it.  Pretty sure you've started more threads about it than anyone else on the board (and spread more misinformation than everyone else combined).

When are you going to apologise for spreading the flagrant myth that using Bitcoin core means you're somehow magically immune from IP logging and blacklisting but XT has just suddenly introduced those concepts because they are teh evils?  You simply can't argue with the fact that any peer to peer software, whether it be filesharing networks, Bitcoin or something else entirely, can log or blacklist your IP.  Nodes running core can log or blacklist your IP, so it's not something that's unique to XT.  If you run a node, you can log or ban as many IPs as you like, whether you run XT or Core makes no difference.  Either you understand this simple fact and continue to talk shit regardless because you're dishonest, or you don't understand this simple fact and aren't qualified to give an opinion.  

sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
www.AntiBitcoinTalk.com
August 22, 2015, 04:16:14 PM
#38
Soo.. we can expect the bitcoin price to raise again, can't we?

Bitcon's reputation has been thoroughly damaged from this, might take months for investors to feel safe investing. Media has made this sound worse than it is.

It's supported by such a small amount of miners it really isn't a dangerous situation. Eventually publicity will stop and itll die quietly.

that right it will take  a month again or until they stop..
but right now it the best time to buy some BTC you can expect a big profit
i hope they will stop now in there dream to control Bitcoin..
legendary
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August 22, 2015, 04:15:55 PM
#37
The nodes have nothing to do with it, real key is mining power, and they have less than 1%... way less than 1%. Node # is easily inflated, even if they had 95% nodes if theres less than 1% mining it doesn't mean anything.

Turtle, you're consistently getting the details wrong (the above, blacklisting FUD etc). You would be more helpful communicating the problems with XT if you just stopped talking. Just join in for the chorus every now and then, or something. 
legendary
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Newbie
August 22, 2015, 03:20:12 PM
#36
both Mike hearn and Gavin Andersen won't stop unless they succeed to implent XT .

Right, XT will win or they have to quit cryptocurrency industry.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
August 22, 2015, 03:11:21 PM
#35
why is every one so pissed about bitcoin xt?  what is so bad about it?  does it not need to be done?
hero member
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Merit: 509
August 22, 2015, 03:00:56 PM
#34
But still there are XT supporters try hard to promote Bitcoin XT. The war continues till January, 2016.

My opinion is we need to support Bitcoin Core - and any changes can made to Bitcoin Core only.

So what will happen after 2016? they will magically stop caring? I don't understand why 2016 is a deadline, they may keep pushing their agenda forever.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
August 22, 2015, 02:53:01 PM
#33
OK - so that thing about blocksize is now over.  XT nodes leveled off and are now starting to actually go down.  High of 891 and now down to 870.  All they got was 800 and some change.  Not even 1/6 of the network.  

Very poor showing.  

Let's all get back to work now.


      
We'll see in a few months , it is still too early to make predictions
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
August 22, 2015, 02:27:29 PM
#32
OK - so that thing about blocksize is now over.  XT nodes leveled off and are now starting to actually go down.  High of 891 and now down to 870.  All they got was 800 and some change.  Not even 1/6 of the network.  

Very poor showing.  

Let's all get back to work now.

It's 901 right now , and you should know that the war between Core and XT is so far from being over  , both Mike hearn and Gavin Andersen won't stop unless they succeed to implent XT .

They cant stop even if they want to. Someone can always release bitcoinXT with BIP101. I will have my own version of BIP soon. We dont need blocksize limit because we're looking at the wrong target. Blocksize limit was used as a quick fix when Satoshi realized the spam attack.
legendary
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Merit: 1074
August 22, 2015, 02:22:58 PM
#31
We will see a lot more attacks on the network, while it's divided.... it's going to become heated for a couple of months. Luckily for us OpenSource does not hide any secrets. You

may think nobody spot the little things you want to sneak into bitcoin... but all eyes are on that code now. Expect some more dirty tricks before more XT people will see the light.

The Bitcoin Core side, has not played their full cards... Yet.  Wink
staff
Activity: 3500
Merit: 6152
August 22, 2015, 10:51:20 AM
#30
OK - so that thing about blocksize is now over.  XT nodes leveled off and are now starting to actually go down.  High of 891 and now down to 870.  All they got was 800 and some change.  Not even 1/6 of the network.  

Very poor showing.  

Let's all get back to work now.

It's 901 right now , and you should know that the war between Core and XT is so far from being over  , both Mike hearn and Gavin Andersen won't stop unless they succeed to implent XT .
legendary
Activity: 3542
Merit: 1352
August 22, 2015, 10:44:54 AM
#29
let us see what will happen when transaction costs will rise to 0.30 , 0.60 , 0.90 USD per transaction  Wink

And we're not under a spam attack. "attack" != "real economic activity".


This is what I pointed out on a thread in regards with the upcoming stress-test. If we are to scale, then we cannot relate a planned "heavy" stress-testing into what is the actual economic activity in the network. Even in days where transaction numbers peak, we don't even see the 1MB being filled.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 251
August 22, 2015, 09:37:06 AM
#28
OK - so that thing about blocksize is now over.  XT nodes leveled off and are now starting to actually go down.  High of 891 and now down to 870.  All they got was 800 and some change.  Not even 1/6 of the network.  

Very poor showing.  

Let's all get back to work now.

Real xt nodes are not more than 200. The rest is fake ones.

1) where do you got that number from
2) who cares? only number thats interesting is mined blocks...
3) even 200 nodes is not bad... xt doesnt exist very long Wink
hero member
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Merit: 500
August 22, 2015, 09:35:31 AM
#27
OK - so that thing about blocksize is now over.  XT nodes leveled off and are now starting to actually go down.  High of 891 and now down to 870.  All they got was 800 and some change.  Not even 1/6 of the network.  

Very poor showing.  

Let's all get back to work now.

Real xt nodes are not more than 200. The rest is fake ones.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 251
August 22, 2015, 09:31:25 AM
#26
While number of xt nodes is starting to decline, it is still not good what is happening to the community. If we allow each group to separate us by
10% each time, bitcoin will be so divided that it will most likely loose the support it needs to continue being cutting edge.

XT dev's used block size limit and current problems of 1mb blocks to get to atleast ~10% of bitcoin users, meaning that question they are raising are not to be ignored.
Core devs needs to find and implement their solution to these problems in their core version, or we will have another group with different name, dividing us yet again.

you need to realize that xt-devs are core devs and that the blocksize debate lasted for about a year.
they couldnt find a consensus and now miners are asked to make it: imho a good solution. without that hole drama / fud at btct it wouldnt even had that much of a price impact.
hero member
Activity: 624
Merit: 500
August 22, 2015, 09:27:28 AM
#25
While number of xt nodes is starting to decline, it is still not good what is happening to the community. If we allow each group to separate us by
10% each time, bitcoin will be so divided that it will most likely loose the support it needs to continue being cutting edge.

XT dev's used block size limit and current problems of 1mb blocks to get to atleast ~10% of bitcoin users, meaning that question they are raising are not to be ignored.
Core devs needs to find and implement their solution to these problems in their core version, or we will have another group with different name, dividing us yet again.
legendary
Activity: 1302
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
August 22, 2015, 08:55:36 AM
#24
But still there are XT supporters try hard to promote Bitcoin XT. The war continues till January, 2016.

My opinion is we need to support Bitcoin Core - and any changes can made to Bitcoin Core only.

Agreed. Let's start by divorcing Core from Blockstream. That might save Bitcoin.

best idea I've heard all week.
newbie
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Merit: 0
August 22, 2015, 07:40:50 AM
#23
Soo.. we can expect the bitcoin price to raise again, can't we?
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
August 22, 2015, 07:17:31 AM
#22
let us see what will happen when transaction costs will rise to 0.30 , 0.60 , 0.90 USD per transaction  Wink

I hope we will see bigger transaction fees, that would be healthier for Bitcoin economy. There is no need to be 30 cents fee but 3-5 cents fees hurt nobody.
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