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Topic: Its time to jump ship w/ this BULLSHIT GOING ON!!! FUCK YOU CHINESE POOLS! (Read 2780 times)

sr. member
Activity: 254
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What do you mean jump ship? Go LTC?
Not a bad thing to diversify for when total crap like this goes on, I personally have coins in three cryptos BTC (my main) and my two back ups Dash and Litecoin. I have seen a nice increase of wealth do to the two backups.
legendary
Activity: 1066
Merit: 1098
WTF IS GOING ON?!?!?
There are 26k transactions in queue ... over 70MB mempool and the 3 largest pools are ignoring them entirely.
I hope all these get orphaned.
FUCK YOU CHINESE POOLS, fucking go rot in hell, thanks for ruining BTC along w/ ur spammy attacks.

Those 3 blocks were hashed almost at the same time. They are not empty deliberately.
Basically, when a mining pool sees that a new block has been mined (by receiving the header) it gives all its client miners an empty block template - as a temporary measure - while the pool receives and validates the new block, and constructs a tx filled block template for its miners. This takes time. It takes more time when the mempool is full of spam and it has to filter through junk to get decent fee-paying tx. Sometimes a block is mined before the process of building a decent-sized block is complete. The Chinese pools all want to mine big blocks, including ones >1MB (but can't until something like BIP 100 or 101 goes live).


+1

A very intelligent explanation, totally ignored by basically every subsequent response Sad

hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000


WTF IS GOING ON?!?!?
There are 26k transactions in queue ... over 70MB mempool and the 3 largest pools are ignoring them entirely.
I hope all these get orphaned.
FUCK YOU CHINESE POOLS, fucking go rot in hell, thanks for ruining BTC along w/ ur spammy attacks.

As long as these pools have an advantage by not implementing any transaction, they will proceed to do so. It's better for them because this block is small and will be propagated between the nodes pretty fast. A 1MB block will be very slow so these pools have the chance to orphan other blocks even when they found a block a bit later then another miner found a 1MB block.

That won't stop and this will only get worse with bigger blocks. I don't know what to do against.
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
There are 26k transactions in queue ... over 70MB mempool and the 3 largest pools are ignoring them entirely.
I hope all these get orphaned.
FUCK YOU CHINESE POOLS, fucking go rot in hell, thanks for ruining BTC along w/ ur spammy attacks.

Those blocks were mined within seconds of each other. It is common that close consecutive blocks are tiny blocks with little or no transactions. The network functions like that for many years, it is not because of malicious pool, Chinese or not. I have seen Slush and BTCGuild done that before a lot time ago when they were the stronger pools.

Solex has a good explaination on the first page:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11838710

You folks all realize that Coblee fixed this issue in Litecoin years ago, and advised Bitcoin devs that this was a problem. They didn't listen.
Hate to say this, but Litecoin is now the standby alternative if btc doesn't get it's act together.

People has been repeating a million times now why the devs haven't included yet the LTC fix, even cobble made a reddit post about it, yet I haven't seen any dev addressing this in here. Did gmaxwell say anything about this?
This should be a quick fix that doesn't need any fork or anything fancy, just a software update.

The proposed "fix" raises fees for small outputs. The current spam transactions have large non-dust outputs. The "fix" wouldn't work for this attack.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1004
Hey

If you want to stop chinese to get all the hashrate then mine on kano.is, bitminter or slush.  Wink

Mine on others pools is the minimum you can do!  Grin
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 3
You're not alone. There are transactions with the minimum fees on it that aren't confirmed yet by the network. Some of them as old as 42 hours now. Larger block sizes aren't needed right now imo. People are suggesting that because we are experiencing some "testing" in the network when in fact, a normal day on the network isn't requiring that much space for transactions.

Not yet but it will one day.

Also, I run a full bitcoin node, taking nearly 50GB of drive space.  You'd think that would count for something.  Transaction is still sitting there...
legendary
Activity: 3542
Merit: 1352
Well, despite all something needs to be fixed.

I've been waiting now for 3 hours for my not-insignificant bitcoin txn with fee to be confirmed.  It hasn't yet.

Floating fees, larger block sizes, and other tweaks would be good but my understanding is bitcoin code is in gridlock right now.

You're not alone. There are transactions with the minimum fees on it that aren't confirmed yet by the network. Some of them as old as 42 hours now. Larger block sizes aren't needed right now imo. People are suggesting that because we are experiencing some "testing" in the network when in fact, a normal day on the network isn't requiring that much space for transactions.
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 3
Well, despite all something needs to be fixed.

I've been waiting now for 3 hours for my not-insignificant bitcoin txn with fee to be confirmed.  It hasn't yet.

Floating fees, larger block sizes, and other tweaks would be good but my understanding is bitcoin code is in gridlock right now.
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1183
This thread is extremely racist. Blocks with 1 transaction have been around forever, and it's certainly not the fault of the Chinese.

China has most of the world's hash power, so they mine more 1 transaction blocks. The racist idiots here don't realize China is actually securing the network and it's best not to scare them away.

I agree with the racist remarks. If they left tho, someone out there would take their place, remember that this is a self regulated system, if you leave, difficulty goes down, and the next guy gets the profit.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1007
This thread is extremely racist. Blocks with 1 transaction have been around forever, and it's certainly not the fault of the Chinese.

China has most of the world's hash power, so they mine more 1 transaction blocks. The racist idiots here don't realize China is actually securing the network and it's best not to scare them away.

But it appears to be much more common than back in the old days.. They must have some kind of thing going to fill a certain percent of their blocks with nothing..
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
FUCK YOU CHINESE POOLS, fucking go rot in hell, thanks for ruining BTC along w/ ur spammy attacks.
Beg your pardon, How do you precisely come to an conclusion that it is from Chinese pools, have you got any IP Address proof or it is an assumption, I'm curious to know it, your little explanation is appreciable.
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1183
You folks all realize that Coblee fixed this issue in Litecoin years ago, and advised Bitcoin devs that this was a problem. They didn't listen.

Hate to say this, but Litecoin is now the standby alternative if btc doesn't get it's act together.

People has been repeating a million times now why the devs haven't included yet the LTC fix, even cobble made a reddit post about it, yet I haven't seen any dev addressing this in here. Did gmaxwell say anything about this?
This should be a quick fix that doesn't need any fork or anything fancy, just a software update.

legendary
Activity: 3542
Merit: 1352
EVERY SINGLE ATLCOIN PUMP AND DUMP 's goal is to increase their BTC holding. Learn this and you can see why altcoin market is a joke.

Always the same "OMG bitcoin is dooooomed!!! Buy altcoin XYZ right now, its the future!!"
then price goes up and later comes crashing down... fun times

Right, as if altcoins are not subject to attacks and schemes. They are just not worth as much the effort compared to bitcoin.

Fun times indeed, especially playing in the altcoin market in order to gain more btc. Smiley Well, there is btc in the altcoin market. It just so happen that almost every altcoin being introduced in the market is a pump and dump scheme, which is kinda unethical and unfair to most of the traders.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
You folks all realize that Coblee fixed this issue in Litecoin years ago, and advised Bitcoin devs that this was a problem. They didn't listen.

Hate to say this, but Litecoin is now the standby alternative if btc doesn't get it's act together.
legendary
Activity: 1001
Merit: 1005
Why are users not leaving such pools?
They should leave them and also those that generate invalid blocks. Those should be booted out of existence!

Invalid blocks?

Version 2 blocks. This is also related to the warning in the header of the forum. Some miners are still generating invalid blocks.

Details here Some Miners Generating Invalid Blocks!
sr. member
Activity: 271
Merit: 250
Everyone on this forum blathers on about "rational actors" and "self interest". Here's the perfect example of that. These rational actors are working in their self interest by making blocks as small as possible so they can propagate faster and thus have a better chance of claiming the block reward.

It would be a monster issue if more pools decide to start doing this. Why deal with transaction fees if you can have your found blocks propagate faster and get the reward?
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1012
Nobody said these pools wanted to build a block with only one transaction... Where is the data that makes that a fact?
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 252
Be great if Bitcoin can just switch over to a POS system and still have the ability to mine its coins while preventing big ASIC companies capitalizing this..

Seems like its already doable... Any current minable coin right now can piggy back on top of an existing POS coin to take advantage of the security features:

legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1016
Why are users not leaving such pools?
They should leave them and also those that generate invalid blocks. Those should be booted out of existence!

Invalid blocks?
legendary
Activity: 1001
Merit: 1005
Why are users not leaving such pools?
They should leave them and also those that generate invalid blocks. Those should be booted out of existence!
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