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Topic: It's very difficult to get merit and higher ranks don't like bounty to be a job? (Read 423 times)

hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 564
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But it's being repeated over and over. If you take the essence of every thread about merit you'll see that 90% of them concentrate on one of the 3 things.
1. Merit is shit, I don't like it, thanks to it new people are discriminated.
2. How can I get merit? Why you guys are hoarding it? My posts are good and still no merit!
3. Merit is being abused, I want to report an abuser.
Nailed it.

No,No I've noticed that all of them know that the merit is being abused and that it's being traded and whatnot, but none of them know who it is or anything. Grin

Also, everyone who has got some merit has an alt, therefore meriting themselves. Grin
legendary
Activity: 2744
Merit: 1174
Another problem: since the introduction of the merit, thousands of members have written thousands of pages exclusively on the subject...

Isn't that -ironically- a form of spam?
 
This time and energy should be spent on better projects.

Yes but the pros definitely outweigh the cons. The complaints about the merit system are restricted to the meta board and will soon die off once everyone is familiar with the merit system.  

Not really. Many threads about the merit system, including complaints, appear in beginners and help. It should be renamed begging and help Cheesy


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It's not really spam when a feature is being discussed either. It's only spam if it's being repeated over and over and no new points are being made which is the case with some of the threads.

But it's being repeated over and over. If you take the essence of every thread about merit you'll see that 90% of them concentrate on one of the 3 things.
1. Merit is shit, I don't like it, thanks to it new people are discriminated.
2. How can I get merit? Why you guys are hoarding it? My posts are good and still no merit!
3. Merit is being abused, I want to report an abuser.
hero member
Activity: 776
Merit: 557
Another problem: since the introduction of the merit, thousands of members have written thousands of pages exclusively on the subject...

Isn't that -ironically- a form of spam?
 
This time and energy should be spent on better projects.

Yes but the pros definitely outweigh the cons. The complaints about the merit system are restricted to the meta board and will soon die off once everyone is familiar with the merit system. 

It's not really spam when a feature is being discussed either. It's only spam if it's being repeated over and over and no new points are being made which is the case with some of the threads.
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 501
Another problem: since the introduction of the merit, thousands of members have written thousands of pages exclusively on the subject...

Isn't that -ironically- a form of spam?
 
This time and energy should be spent on better projects.
hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 520
I don't know why or how to get merit or maybe people don't really mind about merit system or this reason below Cheesy



read many guides and tips how to get merit but did not work, I even created a good thread about guides how to find a good bounty to participate in but still no luck even a single merit but nothing many people in that section don't care, I created that guide to help bounty hunters find a good bounty we all know that bounty requires hard work you need to report every week working for almost 3-5 months just to receive token for a couple of $$$ but it still helps a lot to survie, I know that some bounty hunters are not get paid after months of work becuase the ICO did not reach the soft cap? so that inspires me to create that thread to avoid that from happening I'm not good at speaking English so yeah just sharing my experience, by the way here is my thread I'm talking about https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.38014805

You are with 1+ merit by seeing your rank and merits now. You may that already how the merits are gettable this time. If you make the good post over the forum to needed thread that will be helpful to anyone. So you will find the someone here and like the posts.
As like that if your posts has been crossed the merits givers you may get rewared else you need to for it. Still you think you giving good quality answer to this forum you could get meriting services in the services section bro.
hero member
Activity: 776
Merit: 557
Bounty hunters are a bit frowned upon and less likely to get merit..

But.. Their is a shit ton of merit wasted on legendary accounts..
Just look in this thread at how much..

Yeah you guys make great posts all the time and are worthy of "merit".. I'm not arguing that at all..

Legendaries can send their earned sMerit too it's not like it's completely wasted and if a new rank comes out which there's been discussion of then it won't be wasted.

A great post is a great post ranked shouldn't really play a part in giving out sMerits.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
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But.. Their is a shit ton of merit wasted on legendary accounts..
It's wasted in the sense that it can't be used to rank up, but it's not wasted in the sense that Merit is also meant to highlight good posts:
I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

Hard to find posters worthy of merit that need merit? Yeah I feel ya..
Maybe you should give posters that need merit more.. Like 3 instead of 1, or 5 instead of 2..
So far, my average is very close to 1 merit per post. I prefer to merit more different posts than giving more to one post.

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Before I give my smerits out I usually even check post histories and try to give it to posters that it will actually make a difference to..
I do that sometimes, but even if most of his posts are bad, receiving merit on a good post good be an incentive to improve.

Then again, maybe you're not talking to me Tongue
full member
Activity: 1414
Merit: 106
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If I see a good post followed by a request to merit it, I will simple move on. One should understand that you post speaks for itself. The reader is not some fool who will give you merits because you are asking for it.

Most of the merits are now coming from sources who are experienced in managing forums and have seen it all .
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 2262
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Bounty hunters are a bit frowned upon and less likely to get merit..

But.. Their is a shit ton of merit wasted on legendary accounts..
Just look in this thread at how much..

Yeah you guys make great posts all the time and are worthy of "merit".. I'm not arguing that at all..

But you sources, come one.. You can do a better job of distributing merit to where it's needed than that..
Like your trying to pad your sent merit count, get to the top of that generosity list..

Hard to find posters worthy of merit that need merit? Yeah I feel ya..
Maybe you should give posters that need merit more.. Like 3 instead of 1, or 5 instead of 2..

Before I give my smerits out I usually even check post histories and try to give it to posters that it will actually make a difference to..

It would be so easy to have just dumped my smerits on legendaries, piece of cake, but I put more effort in to my merits sent than that..
legendary
Activity: 3500
Merit: 6981
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Maybe you're trying to hard to get merit? You're whole goal for being on this forum should not be to get merit and rank up so you can earn more money.
Hear, hear.  And OP has earned 1 merit already, so what's the problem?  I've seen many, many users who have yet to earn even their first one.  As I have said innumerable times, earning them is NOT supposed to be easy.  More posts are going to go unmerited than merited, and that's not going to change unless Theymos decides to have hundreds of merit sources and standards start to loosen up a bit, and I hope that doesn't happen.

OP can still post helpful threads as a Member, so unless his purpose is really to get merit-->rank up-->increase income, he isn't limited at all by his current rank.  There are no posting restrictions or anything I can think of except for the amount of signature space he can rent out. 

So what really is your purpose on bitcointalk, OP?
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
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Thank you everyone for the comments I learned a lot by reading it especially to the one who gives advice, I understand now the importance of merit system, but about the job like LoyceV said that it is "spamming" sorry but I can't stop my job now for participating in bounty because I can't find a decent job here in the Philippines I did not graduate in college and come from a poor family in 3rd world county finding job is a problem here, I hope you understand sir, I respect your opinion because you're an old member here, when the time comes that this forum will ban ICO or Bounty related post that can cause spam because of reporting every week that will the time for me to find another job.

Ok, so you have this "job" that is better than any opportunity you can get IRL. What exactly do you need merits for?

newbie
Activity: 69
Merit: 0
It is not actually that hard to get merit. (Though i still dont have a merit) Merits are actually good to see how other people and other users value your OWN opinions and insights on different topics. I guess whats hard is how to get Attention from the opinion and insight you make and create. Some topics are already repeated over and over again and i guess this is what some High Rank users doesnt like.

But at the very least, opinions are very important to read because it is new knowledge to someone in this forum and could help them be a better user.
newbie
Activity: 322
Merit: 0
I received two higher educations (physical and legal) and like you it does not help me to have a high-paid job (my country doesn't interesting in physicists). Of course, I live not in the Philippines, but in Russia.  Probably my country at this moment can be attributed to the countries of the third world. But begging for merits is not the best idea, respect yourself and then maybe people will also start for the same  Wink. Merits will appear in your life, relax and receive pleasue at this forum  Smiley
member
Activity: 560
Merit: 15
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Thank you everyone for the comments I learned a lot by reading it especially to the one who gives advice, I understand now the importance of merit system, but about the job like LoyceV said that it is "spamming" sorry but I can't stop my job now for participating in bounty because I can't find a decent job here in the Philippines I did not graduate in college and come from a poor family in 3rd world county finding job is a problem here, I hope you understand sir, I respect your opinion because you're an old member here, when the time comes that this forum will ban ICO or Bounty related post that can cause spam because of reporting every week that will the time for me to find another job.
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1166
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read many guides and tips how to get merit but did not work

Your just expecting way too much and being irritated that you don't seems to have any in a short time.

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I even created a good thread about guides how to find a good bounty to participate in but still no luck

Maybe, it's good for you but as for the audience of this forum it might not good enough or a similar thread like yours was already made. And I think LUCK doesn't have any work on this forum.

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even a single merit but nothing many people in that section don't care,

If your posts is being read or have been read in a few times, then I think the people in that section do have any care on what you did, Maybe the fact that you're not getting a single one is just that your lacking something on your works.

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I created that guide to help bounty hunters find a good bounty

Helping others to gain isn't bad at all, but the thing is, as far as I know HELPING doesn't require any feedback or even waiting for something in exchange. If that would be the case, it won't be helping anymore but a SERVICE that has a charge/fee.


---> Don't be disappointed if your works doesn't seem to have any value to anyone, just keep on improving yourself and also patience is also needed for you to gain.
---> And about that silly thing that you call a JOB, as for the messenger from your image, he is quite right. They really hate it when you try to express this things as a job.
staff
Activity: 3304
Merit: 4115
In my perspective, I think for those members who are finding it hard to earn even a single merit, I think it is better if set their mindset to get merit while posting instead of posting just for the sake of the bounties or like you said "like normal people". For the most part, I think if they just act like normal people they will never get merit because of the way they are posting now,  no effort or thoughts. But if they post with merit on their mind, I think they will exert more effort that usual.
Why? They will only receive their merit, and then go back to their shitposting ways once they can earn more from their bounties. You shouldn't be posting for merit, or for bounties. When signature campaigns, bounties, and merit wasn't a thing many people posted for various different reasons. Mainly to talk about Bitcoin, and learn. However, this forum is quickly turning into a job center.

Post because you want to post or you have something to say.
member
Activity: 210
Merit: 29
Don't see this forum as a "job", if you want a job then get a real one. The bounties here are just some extra BTC on the side. You really shouldn't be relying on these for an income.

You should come to bitcointalk to debate things and learn things, to help newcomers learn stuff. Whatever you get or don't get from sig campaigns is just gravy.

This is kind of the same as the "HODL" all your BTC motto people have these days. It is ignoring the main use case and in essence making it worthless. This forum is here for us all to discuss every aspect of cryptocurrency, that is the primary use case. Lets keep it to that, and dont hodl BTC, spend and replace. A currency with no circulation is worthless and so is a forum that is full of "how do I get merit?" posts.

 
 
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
You're getting it all wrong.
What you call a "job", I call spamming!

we all know that bounty requires hard work
If it would be hard work that requires a lot of time, people wouldn't use 21 accounts to join bounty campaigns.
You don't seem to understand the basic reason why the Merit system was introduced:
I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
- Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.
member
Activity: 560
Merit: 15
$100k per 1 BTC in Year 2020
But still no luck even a single merit

Look at your merit history. You have received 1 merit from TMAN where you didn't put any effort for getting merit rather you have expressed yourself.

Yeah that time I was just expressing my self, I will change my perspective now maybe I will just post something on this forum for being real and helping others with nothing in return maybe that will be the answer.
copper member
Activity: 1526
Merit: 2890
I created that guide to help bounty hunters find a good bounty

Merit merit on the alt?
You don't have to tell me who's scam of them all
Merit merit I wish you could come to me
And rank me up, bring my hefty bounty back to me

Merit merit lie to me
Show me what I want to see (bounty)
Merit merit  lie to me
Gimme  me bounty I want to flee




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