I'm continuing with my alphabet marketing policy for sMerits, and I've just invented hMerits - the first thread about them is on the beginners board here.
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hmerits-what-will-happen-to-bitcoin-if-the-etf-applications-are-granted-4811776
I'm doing this because I do want to help Juniors and others to gain merits, but I finding that I have to create threads to encourage meritable posts. The introduction of dMerits would make life a lot easier for some merit sources.
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Yes, the best approach of all is to go follow the regular path, since that already exists and nothing needs to be done in addition but apply and be appointed at some stage. The D source approach is a kind of "appoint me but not with too much of a burden".
Fair enough. Like a mini-source.
On the Merit Dashboard we can access some stats on the Local Boards, although they treat each Local Board as a whole (they don’t go and break up the data by Subsubsections within).
From that perspective, the Dashboard gives us access to:
a) Section/Subsection Tab: Filtering by Subsection on the right (select Spanish only), we get the monthly sMerit distribution on the local board (121 July 2018 so far, 131 June 2018, etc).
b) Post Summary Tab: Filtering by Subection we get the number of sMerits per TX (79,73% of TX are of 1 sMerit, 11,51% of 2 sMerits and so on). We can also see the number of TXs per post (88,80% of posts receive only 1 TX, and an additional 8,68% receive 2 TXs).
c) Ranking Section: Filtering by Subsection we get a list of who the top meriters are (Paxmao 404, freemind1 79, and so on), the top merited (120 Gothorum, 83 solonosquedauna, etc), and the top merited threads (105 Nuevo Sistema de méritos en Bitcointalk, etc. – aggregates not by post, but by thread).
d) TXs: Filter by Subsection to see all TXs in the subsection.
e) Potential Merit Sources: Filter by Subsection to see how many users a given member has given merit to, how much he sent, number of TXs, average per Tx.
On all these tabs you can also use the Date Range slider to see the data narrow down to a specific date range (use the slider or click on the date to select it from calendar or provide it manually).
If you need it broken down further tell me and we can create a post on the Spanish Local board with the stats, or I could try to bring a third level (section/subsection/subsubsection) on to the dashboard to include/exclude "subsubsections" (I need to cleanse the data though for that level).
From that perspective, the Dashboard gives us access to:
a) Section/Subsection Tab: Filtering by Subsection on the right (select Spanish only), we get the monthly sMerit distribution on the local board (121 July 2018 so far, 131 June 2018, etc).
b) Post Summary Tab: Filtering by Subection we get the number of sMerits per TX (79,73% of TX are of 1 sMerit, 11,51% of 2 sMerits and so on). We can also see the number of TXs per post (88,80% of posts receive only 1 TX, and an additional 8,68% receive 2 TXs).
c) Ranking Section: Filtering by Subsection we get a list of who the top meriters are (Paxmao 404, freemind1 79, and so on), the top merited (120 Gothorum, 83 solonosquedauna, etc), and the top merited threads (105 Nuevo Sistema de méritos en Bitcointalk, etc. – aggregates not by post, but by thread).
d) TXs: Filter by Subsection to see all TXs in the subsection.
e) Potential Merit Sources: Filter by Subsection to see how many users a given member has given merit to, how much he sent, number of TXs, average per Tx.
On all these tabs you can also use the Date Range slider to see the data narrow down to a specific date range (use the slider or click on the date to select it from calendar or provide it manually).
If you need it broken down further tell me and we can create a post on the Spanish Local board with the stats, or I could try to bring a third level (section/subsection/subsubsection) on to the dashboard to include/exclude "subsubsections" (I need to cleanse the data though for that level).
Cool, I will tinker around a bit to see if I can make sense of the data. 404 points awarded mostly 1 by 1 ... I am spending too much time in crypto
Yep, I beginning to think that this is the easiest way. Maybe the actual merit sources can propose someone become one. It would be really less messy, but the point was to create a sort of "team", with the idea to get all the merits created distributed among some more boards, local included.
You are the merit source on the Spanish board. What is the situation in there, from your point of view?
I am currently one of the merit sources that can understand / write Spanish, I believe there is at least one other. The section has low activity, but at the same time the "spam" is relatively low. Some members are really amazing, perhaps a dozen of them. Four of them, I don´t know if they are alts, provide some news daily with more or less fortune. Regarding merit, we are lucky to have some generous members that many times send merit before me.
It is true, I normally give 1 merit at the time... perhaps I should consider rising that a bit for the higher ranking users, since 1 merit for a Junior is really cool but a Senior needs a lot to rank up. I think that I have enough sMerit for the "size" of the section, but nobody stops any other user to apply to be a merit source.
My objective is clear: I want more people engaged on the local section, sharing knowledge, asking intelligent questions and providing information. There are 400 millions of Spanish speakers and we have our own home here in the forum.
So true. Sometimes i feeled I haven't been posted what I actually want to express due to language barrier. However I'm trying my best to learn English everyday and I have learned lot by reading threads made by top English posters. When I reading a thread(especially serious discussion board) I used a online dictionary to find out English terms which not oftenly used in our society.
We'd love to help you with your posting on Fit to Talk English. You can tell us about sea turtles, and tea of course.
Yep, I beginning to think that this is the easiest way. Maybe the actual merit sources can propose someone become one. It would be really less messy, but the point was to create a sort of "team", with the idea to get all the merits created distributed among some more boards, local included.
Where I came(Sri Lanka) from actually doesn't have any local board. But there is a "sinhala" thread started by our senior members but i didn't feel to post or even read there since almost all of them are talking only about bounties and airdops. So can we go one more step further for "local threads" where actually didn't have any local board.I'm thinking about how to initiate a good thread(not the Bountytalk) with senior members for our local community where we can share our knowledge with our native language.
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...and it is going to be difficult for them to rank-up just earning one merit for each incredible post.
Now, of course, they can come in here, but it will imply centralization of a language, and it is far more difficult to express an idea in a foreign language rather than in your own (I struggle with that every single day, jeje).
So true. Sometimes i feeled I haven't been posted what I actually want to express due to language barrier. However I'm trying my best to learn English everyday and I have learned lot by reading threads made by top English posters. When I reading a thread(especially serious discussion board) I used a online dictionary to find out English terms which not oftenly used in our society. Now, of course, they can come in here, but it will imply centralization of a language, and it is far more difficult to express an idea in a foreign language rather than in your own (I struggle with that every single day, jeje).
At the end of the day if we can't change the rules so we have to be changed in order to gain more from forum.
<…>Or alternatively and on a much more direct approach the "D" source can apply to be a merit source. Even could be recommended by some other merit source that feels is not able to distribute all the smerit given to it to take some of the workload.
Yes, the best approach of all is to go follow the regular path, since that already exists and nothing needs to be done in addition but apply and be appointed at some stage. The D source approach is a kind of "appoint me but not with too much of a burden".Quote
@Dmrdmr - I understand that you have better things to do, but could you consider doing some stats for local boards? (in case you haven't yet)
I would be interested in merit/post awarded in the Spanish section to see if there is less than average, excepting Tokens and Alts sections, which are mostly announcements.
On the Merit Dashboard we can access some stats on the Local Boards, although they treat each Local Board as a whole (they don’t go and break up the data by Subsubsections within).I would be interested in merit/post awarded in the Spanish section to see if there is less than average, excepting Tokens and Alts sections, which are mostly announcements.
From that perspective, the Dashboard gives us access to:
a) Section/Subsection Tab: Filtering by Subsection on the right (select Spanish only), we get the monthly sMerit distribution on the local board (121 July 2018 so far, 131 June 2018, etc).
b) Post Summary Tab: Filtering by Subection we get the number of sMerits per TX (79,73% of TX are of 1 sMerit, 11,51% of 2 sMerits and so on). We can also see the number of TXs per post (88,80% of posts receive only 1 TX, and an additional 8,68% receive 2 TXs).
c) Ranking Section: Filtering by Subsection we get a list of who the top meriters are (Paxmao 404, freemind1 79, and so on), the top merited (120 Gothorum, 83 solonosquedauna, etc), and the top merited threads (105 Nuevo Sistema de méritos en Bitcointalk, etc. – aggregates not by post, but by thread).
d) TXs: Filter by Subsection to see all TXs in the subsection.
e) Potential Merit Sources: Filter by Subsection to see how many users a given member has given merit to, how much he sent, number of TXs, average per Tx.
On all these tabs you can also use the Date Range slider to see the data narrow down to a specific date range (use the slider or click on the date to select it from calendar or provide it manually).
If you need it broken down further tell me and we can create a post on the Spanish Local board with the stats, or I could try to bring a third level (section/subsection/subsubsection) on to the dashboard to include/exclude "subsubsections" (I need to cleanse the data though for that level).
I don't think this whole idea is going to do anything good. There are clearly not enought merit sources as it is and if more sources start this practice the situation will just become worse.
If a merit source doesn't find posts to merit or has no time to do it, the right thing to do is to step down and let somebody else giving it a go, there are plenty of good candidates waiting for months to become a source.
In top of this is not the job of a merit source to nominate any potential one or give similar responsabilities.
If a merit source doesn't find posts to merit or has no time to do it, the right thing to do is to step down and let somebody else giving it a go, there are plenty of good candidates waiting for months to become a source.
In top of this is not the job of a merit source to nominate any potential one or give similar responsabilities.
The advantage of this procedure is that, if there is any real intent to add more Merit Sources to the system with a bit of haste, these would be already vouched for by existing Merit Sources, and could be quicker to appoint.
That's the point. I feel that there are enough merit sources already, that's why I don't think necessary to become one. This idea came under the actual situation some merit sources are living: they find difficult to find meritable posts. So, why to generate more merits if they are enough but the problem is that the deserved users are difficult to reach?
Anyway, I think this is kind of messy, for it would imply some good changes to the code.
Or alternatively and on a much more direct approach the "D" source can apply to be a merit source. Even could be recommended by some other merit source that feels is not able to distribute all the smerit given to it to take some of the workload.
Yep, I beginning to think that this is the easiest way. Maybe the actual merit sources can propose someone become one. It would be really less messy, but the point was to create a sort of "team", with the idea to get all the merits created distributed among some more boards, local included.
You are the merit source on the Spanish board. What is the situation in there, from your point of view? Because I see people earning merits, but one by one (there are some exceptions-deserved), and it is going to be difficult for them to rank-up just earning one merit for each incredible post.
Now, of course, they can come in here, but it will imply centralization of a language, and it is far more difficult to express an idea in a foreign language rather than in your own (I struggle with that every single day, jeje).
So, if the only way to become a Full Member, for instance, is by writing in English, is not a centralized point of view?
Anyway, after reading all the thread, yes, it is kind of messy. A good idea from JC, but messy to implement.
I have to insist: less fuss, easier control... Merit review threads. Regarding the user NadiaHel, I have the pleasure of awarding merit quite often to the user. If I miss one post just report in the review thread.
@Dmrdmr - I understand that you have better things to do, but could you consider doing some stats for local boards? (in case you haven't yet)
I would be interested in merit/post awarded in the Spanish section to see if there is less than average, excepting Tokens and Alts sections, which are mostly announcements.
Or alternatively and on a much more direct approach the "D" source can apply to be a merit source. Even could be recommended by some other merit source that feels is not able to distribute all the smerit given to it to take some of the workload.
@Dmrdmr - I understand that you have better things to do, but could you consider doing some stats for local boards? (in case you haven't yet)
I would be interested in merit/post awarded in the Spanish section to see if there is less than average, excepting Tokens and Alts sections, which are mostly announcements.
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Now in order to avoid any speculation or foul use (although unlikely to happen with a Merit Source), the "D" source would need to be cleared by theymos just as any other Merit Source, but perhaps at a swifter pace since he would already be backed by a Merit Source that appoints him.
The "D" source should be a reputable member too, and have decent experience at giving merit with a fair criteria that the Merit Source has cleared. It would also probably be better if the Merit Networks of the Merit Source and "D" source do not coincide too much (see image below).
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Now in order to avoid any speculation or foul use (although unlikely to happen with a Merit Source), the "D" source would need to be cleared by theymos just as any other Merit Source, but perhaps at a swifter pace since he would already be backed by a Merit Source that appoints him.
The "D" source should be a reputable member too, and have decent experience at giving merit with a fair criteria that the Merit Source has cleared. It would also probably be better if the Merit Networks of the Merit Source and "D" source do not coincide too much (see image below).
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Or alternatively and on a much more direct approach the "D" source can apply to be a merit source. Even could be recommended by some other merit source that feels is not able to distribute all the smerit given to it to take some of the workload.
In my case, I have posted my criteria that I think aligns with the forum rules:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41555048
What is quality
- Help others using a special or uncommon knowledge
- Very relevant news with a good analysis or an important implication to cryptos.
- Occasionally, good humor.
- Personally, if anyone corrects a word in one of my translations I will give merit ("of my own")
What is NOT meritable:
- A long post is not necessarily merit worthy.
- If you plagiarise and I notice it you will be in my ignored list for a year.
- If you have been trading merit with other users and I notice it, you will have a hard time getting merit.
An a later addition: Don´t send me PM asking for merit.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41555048
What is quality
- Help others using a special or uncommon knowledge
- Very relevant news with a good analysis or an important implication to cryptos.
- Occasionally, good humor.
- Personally, if anyone corrects a word in one of my translations I will give merit ("of my own")
What is NOT meritable:
- A long post is not necessarily merit worthy.
- If you plagiarise and I notice it you will be in my ignored list for a year.
- If you have been trading merit with other users and I notice it, you will have a hard time getting merit.
An a later addition: Don´t send me PM asking for merit.
Totally agree with your definition of "quality". But, in this meta board, merits are given as a way of agreement. For example, a babycry topic about merit system shows up, high ranked members come in repressing, insulting and meriting each other. What a waste!
True, I struggle a lot to avoid that. Sometimes is difficult to avoid being judgmental.
The way I see it dMerits understood as delegate merits could have two non-collisional paths:
1. Delegate Merit as @Jet Cash suggest, where by a Merit Source transfers some sMerit to person of his choice (with no Merit added to the recipient’s Merit counter).
This would have the advantage of delegating some sMerit to others on a discretionary basis, and may help the Merit Source to distribute his sMerits with less of a burden and over a wider network. This approach does not increase the overall Merit Source monthly allowance, but it could help to empty it out on a monthly basis, thus increasing overall received sMerit by the forum members.
The disadvantage is that, although Merit Sources are trusted by theymos for this task (as they are approved or pre-chosen on a one to one basis), there should be a certain degree of tracking taking place so as to avoid speculation on the sMerit transfers from the Merit Source to the Delegate.
Perhaps the transfer process could create a TX just like every other sMerit transfer, but where the message Id involved would have to be an internal reserved code that indicates “delegate merit transfer” (i.e. User A awarded User B n sMerits for this post: “delegate merit transfer”).
2. Appoint a "D" Merit Source. Each Merit Source could appoint another person as a "D" Merit Source.
Merit Sources I figure are assigned a monthly allowance after being cleared, and probably classified in some sort of A/B/C category, where the monthly allowance depends on the category.
The idea is that the "D" category would be a Merit Source with less of a sMerit monthly allowance than a regular Merit Source, but that is vouched for by the Merit Source. This only makes sense if Merit Sources are considered scarce, and as a means to speed-up the process of finding trustworthy members for the task.
Now in order to avoid any speculation or foul use (although unlikely to happen with a Merit Source), the "D" source would need to be cleared by theymos just as any other Merit Source, but perhaps at a swifter pace since he would already be backed by a Merit Source that appoints him.
The "D" source should be a reputable member too, and have decent experience at giving merit with a fair criteria that the Merit Source has cleared. It would also probably be better if the Merit Networks of the Merit Source and "D" source do not coincide too much (see image below).
The advantage of this procedure is that, if there is any real intent to add more Merit Sources to the system with a bit of haste, these would be already vouched for by existing Merit Sources, and could be quicker to appoint.
Say for example @Jet Cash considers @Seoincorporation to be a good candidate for being a "D" source. @Seincorporation has previously indicated on the forum that he would like to be able to give out more merits, but perhaps not become a full merit source (correct me if I’m wrong though). In addition, their Merit Networks as sMerit awarders do not coincide too much as can be seen here:
@Jet Cash has a Merit Network of 270 different members he has sent sMerit to at some point. @Seoincorporation’s Merit Network is of 57 members. @Jet Cash has 18 merited members in common with @Seoincorporation, which is pretty low. Aggregating @Seoincorporation as a “D” source for example could be a win-win: @Seoincorporation, who is already reputable and has awarded quite a lot of sMerits would get an allowance that won’t require excessive attention to award, reaching out to other forum members, while the overall sMerit generated by Merit Sources would increased.
1. Delegate Merit as @Jet Cash suggest, where by a Merit Source transfers some sMerit to person of his choice (with no Merit added to the recipient’s Merit counter).
This would have the advantage of delegating some sMerit to others on a discretionary basis, and may help the Merit Source to distribute his sMerits with less of a burden and over a wider network. This approach does not increase the overall Merit Source monthly allowance, but it could help to empty it out on a monthly basis, thus increasing overall received sMerit by the forum members.
The disadvantage is that, although Merit Sources are trusted by theymos for this task (as they are approved or pre-chosen on a one to one basis), there should be a certain degree of tracking taking place so as to avoid speculation on the sMerit transfers from the Merit Source to the Delegate.
Perhaps the transfer process could create a TX just like every other sMerit transfer, but where the message Id involved would have to be an internal reserved code that indicates “delegate merit transfer” (i.e. User A awarded User B n sMerits for this post: “delegate merit transfer”).
2. Appoint a "D" Merit Source. Each Merit Source could appoint another person as a "D" Merit Source.
Merit Sources I figure are assigned a monthly allowance after being cleared, and probably classified in some sort of A/B/C category, where the monthly allowance depends on the category.
The idea is that the "D" category would be a Merit Source with less of a sMerit monthly allowance than a regular Merit Source, but that is vouched for by the Merit Source. This only makes sense if Merit Sources are considered scarce, and as a means to speed-up the process of finding trustworthy members for the task.
Now in order to avoid any speculation or foul use (although unlikely to happen with a Merit Source), the "D" source would need to be cleared by theymos just as any other Merit Source, but perhaps at a swifter pace since he would already be backed by a Merit Source that appoints him.
The "D" source should be a reputable member too, and have decent experience at giving merit with a fair criteria that the Merit Source has cleared. It would also probably be better if the Merit Networks of the Merit Source and "D" source do not coincide too much (see image below).
The advantage of this procedure is that, if there is any real intent to add more Merit Sources to the system with a bit of haste, these would be already vouched for by existing Merit Sources, and could be quicker to appoint.
Say for example @Jet Cash considers @Seoincorporation to be a good candidate for being a "D" source. @Seincorporation has previously indicated on the forum that he would like to be able to give out more merits, but perhaps not become a full merit source (correct me if I’m wrong though). In addition, their Merit Networks as sMerit awarders do not coincide too much as can be seen here:
@Jet Cash has a Merit Network of 270 different members he has sent sMerit to at some point. @Seoincorporation’s Merit Network is of 57 members. @Jet Cash has 18 merited members in common with @Seoincorporation, which is pretty low. Aggregating @Seoincorporation as a “D” source for example could be a win-win: @Seoincorporation, who is already reputable and has awarded quite a lot of sMerits would get an allowance that won’t require excessive attention to award, reaching out to other forum members, while the overall sMerit generated by Merit Sources would increased.
In my case, I have posted my criteria that I think aligns with the forum rules:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41555048
What is quality
- Help others using a special or uncommon knowledge
- Very relevant news with a good analysis or an important implication to cryptos.
- Occasionally, good humor.
- Personally, if anyone corrects a word in one of my translations I will give merit ("of my own")
What is NOT meritable:
- A long post is not necessarily merit worthy.
- If you plagiarise and I notice it you will be in my ignored list for a year.
- If you have been trading merit with other users and I notice it, you will have a hard time getting merit.
An a later addition: Don´t send me PM asking for merit.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41555048
What is quality
- Help others using a special or uncommon knowledge
- Very relevant news with a good analysis or an important implication to cryptos.
- Occasionally, good humor.
- Personally, if anyone corrects a word in one of my translations I will give merit ("of my own")
What is NOT meritable:
- A long post is not necessarily merit worthy.
- If you plagiarise and I notice it you will be in my ignored list for a year.
- If you have been trading merit with other users and I notice it, you will have a hard time getting merit.
An a later addition: Don´t send me PM asking for merit.
Totally agree with your definition of "quality". But, in this meta board, merits are given as a way of agreement. For example, a babycry topic about merit system shows up, high ranked members come in repressing, insulting and meriting each other. What a waste!
So many people are monitoring merits that any abuse would be seen pretty quickly
Maybe only heroes and legendaries could receive dMerits
Maybe only heroes and legendaries could receive dMerits
Even among those of the heroes and legendary ranking, there are still many who will abuse the privilege. Let's not forget that the ideal reality for those in those top ranking positions does not in any way imply that they are real 'leaders' in BTT forum.
IMO, the staff of BTT forum can be expanded to include paid whistleblowers, merit monitors, and trust network initiators. I actually like the idea of a trust network of merit sources--> dmerit agents --> smerit sources and any other business related to such ranking and evaluation system. This would most likely improve the performance of the BTT forum activities and the overall public image.
Olumyd, As far as I am concerned, one of the things I do look sometimes before giving merit is the merit history of the member. Typically, I won´t merit users that are meriting others in ANN threads, which in turn are meriting others in ANN threads.
But, that´s just me.
I've thought quite a lot about the merit system, and I think it had given Theymos some difficult decisions to make. In many ways it is a form of board moderation, but with positive rewards rather than punishments. At the moment most people use the rewards to expand their bounty hunting and sig spamming, and this contributes to the cluttering of the boards. In many ways it would be better if nobody were to rank up while sig spamming was still rife. The answer would be for the forum to provide alternative benefits for rank, but I can't think of any - flashing avatars would be an annoyance for example.
The other option is to try to avoid scams and HYIP product promotion in signatures, and encourage the promotion of more stable long term products. I don't really approve of mixers for example, but I can see that some people may have a need to use them, and long term advertising runs for such products will encourage the sponsor to ensure that his reputation is not damaged by bad posting habits.
I think the admins are aware of the importance of the merit system, and the way it has improved the boards. Merit sources will be able to help shape the forum for the future, and I hope that sources can be given some guidance on forum policies. I started my chat room to try to obtain some help with this, and I have received some advice, but I still think I'm a bit of a wild canon with my awards. This is the reason that I suggested the Source2 status. It would allow me ( and other sources) to feed merits into areas with which I have no empathy, but are essential to the maintenance of the diverse interests in the forum
The other option is to try to avoid scams and HYIP product promotion in signatures, and encourage the promotion of more stable long term products. I don't really approve of mixers for example, but I can see that some people may have a need to use them, and long term advertising runs for such products will encourage the sponsor to ensure that his reputation is not damaged by bad posting habits.
I think the admins are aware of the importance of the merit system, and the way it has improved the boards. Merit sources will be able to help shape the forum for the future, and I hope that sources can be given some guidance on forum policies. I started my chat room to try to obtain some help with this, and I have received some advice, but I still think I'm a bit of a wild canon with my awards. This is the reason that I suggested the Source2 status. It would allow me ( and other sources) to feed merits into areas with which I have no empathy, but are essential to the maintenance of the diverse interests in the forum
In my case, I have posted my criteria that I think aligns with the forum rules:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41555048
What is quality
- Help others using a special or uncommon knowledge
- Very relevant news with a good analysis or an important implication to cryptos.
- Occasionally, good humor.
- Personally, if anyone corrects a word in one of my translations I will give merit ("of my own")
What is NOT meritable:
- A long post is not necessarily merit worthy.
- If you plagiarise and I notice it you will be in my ignored list for a year.
- If you have been trading merit with other users and I notice it, you will have a hard time getting merit.
An a later addition: Don´t send me PM asking for merit.
No, these aren't negative merits, but they are sMerits that can be delegated.
I gave seoinc. 10 merits so that he can award some in the Spanish community, and I messed up by giving a couple of merits to a copy paster. It would have been great if I could have delegated the 10 sMerits to seoinc. for him to pass on all 10, and of course no merits would have been added to his personal total.
How about giving some merit sources the ability to delegate the awarding of a limited number of sMerits. It would make the task of merit sources much simpler, and it would act as a form of apprenticeship for future merit sources.
I gave seoinc. 10 merits so that he can award some in the Spanish community, and I messed up by giving a couple of merits to a copy paster. It would have been great if I could have delegated the 10 sMerits to seoinc. for him to pass on all 10, and of course no merits would have been added to his personal total.
How about giving some merit sources the ability to delegate the awarding of a limited number of sMerits. It would make the task of merit sources much simpler, and it would act as a form of apprenticeship for future merit sources.
Alternatively and on a much simpler approach, Seoinc can use the merit review thread that I have setup in the Spanish section so that he/she can help me finding decent posts. The Spanish section of the forum generates little posting activity, and of that little posting activity a large part is merely opinions that are welcome but not "meritable". Believe me, I will be happy if I am ever able to use up all my sMerit.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.38727495
Even if you don´t know about cryptos, you can still get merit on the Spanish forum in my "Weekly Merit challenge", an effort to make a more engaged community.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41925587
May I ask which boards are neglected in your view? Do you think that 10 more merits were needed on the Spanish section? For which posts? Notice that giving merit requires certain care and even with that, we all eventually give some to spammers, merit traders, etc...
Note: in the Spanish section there are tools to propose deserving posts for merit and at the moment is far easier to get merit there than in the general sections IMO.
Note II: Be aware, it is very easy to fall into the same argument that hundreds of threads propose in the meta section - "merit is difficult to get", "merit is unfair", "there should be more merit",... Just changing into slightly more sophisticated version "the board is neglected", "this post should have merit and it did not receive it ,...
Note III: I am not by default against further decentralising merit: I can´t merit myself for my cool posts in the Spanish forum.
My idea wasn't taken seriously a couple pf posts back so let me try again.
Like another user stated any abuse would be discovered easily. Let the local communities have a vote about which users they can trust to do this task.
If you spend a lot of time in a certain subforum you learn which users distribute merits for quality posts and how they do it.
All the merits allocated for this task would have to be presented to the local communities and it would be transparent for everyone to check.
I dont think you need new moderators or whistle blowers because anyone who discovers an unfair distribution in his local community will find a way to inform the staff and go public about it.
Well, in the case this kind if merit sources are created, it is clear that it is going to be really difficult for them to farm or to abuse, since the merits they will receive are few in comparison with a merit source, and will be under watch from the giver, of course.
I think is far more difficult to cheat by a member of the "team merit" than to a normal merit source.
By building a team also it is going to become more transparent the work of the merit source. Anyway, I don't think any of us is willing to betray or cheat, but to improve the forum.
So many people are monitoring merits that any abuse would be seen pretty quickly
Maybe only heroes and legendaries could receive dMerits
Maybe only heroes and legendaries could receive dMerits
Even among those of the heroes and legendary ranking, there are still many who will abuse the privilege. Let's not forget that the ideal reality for those in those top ranking positions does not in any way imply that they are real 'leaders' in BTT forum.
IMO, the staff of BTT forum can be expanded to include paid whistleblowers, merit monitors, and trust network initiators. I actually like the idea of a trust network of merit sources--> dmerit agents --> smerit sources and any other business related to such ranking and evaluation system. This would most likely improve the performance of the BTT forum activities and the overall public image.
Like another user stated any abuse would be discovered easily. Let the local communities have a vote about which users they can trust to do this task.
If you spend a lot of time in a certain subforum you learn which users distribute merits for quality posts and how they do it.
All the merits allocated for this task would have to be presented to the local communities and it would be transparent for everyone to check.
I dont think you need new moderators or whistle blowers because anyone who discovers an unfair distribution in his local community will find a way to inform the staff and go public about it.
So many people are monitoring merits that any abuse would be seen pretty quickly
Maybe only heroes and legendaries could receive dMerits
Maybe only heroes and legendaries could receive dMerits
Even among those of the heroes and legendary ranking, there are still many who will abuse the privilege. Let's not forget that the ideal reality for those in those top ranking positions does not in any way imply that they are real 'leaders' in BTT forum.
IMO, the staff of BTT forum can be expanded to include paid whistleblowers, merit monitors, and trust network initiators. I actually like the idea of a trust network of merit sources--> dmerit agents --> smerit sources and any other business related to such ranking and evaluation system. This would most likely improve the performance of the BTT forum activities and the overall public image.
This is a great idea OP. Also I like this idea more than the "translate for merit one". Keep up your work you are doing so much for this community.
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