I've Made Millions abusing Exploit in a Crypto Casino - AMA - page 4.

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Quote from: decodx on February 23, 2024, 04:38:56 PM

Those actions were unethical and against the law and shouldn't be praised here. If someone thinks the casino takes advantage of players, they shouldn't play. Abusing the casino didnt support the other players at all - it only helped that one abuser.

You are definitely right, this is what you believe, but I think the big actually is, how many people believe this just same way that you do?, we live in a world where people no longer care about what's morals, the majority of individuals just wanna please themselves first before looking by their side to see if there is anyone interested in being please.

I personally will not condemn the op for what he had done, for I do not completely trust myself to not have done the same if I was in his shoes, saying is always way easier than doing; I believe we all know this, and before anyone of us will condemn the op for this which he did, I personally will ask the person to first step into op's shoes let's see if he or she would have better than the op did, by informing the casino of the loophole, which may not even earn him or her a single reward, or whether he or she would have done exactly what op did.
Like I said before, it's easier to say, "I won't do this thing" when we are not in front of it and seeing the monetary benefits that will come with doing it.

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Quote from: Dunamisx on February 24, 2024, 09:24:40 AM

I don't think the casinos can be exploited as well as the employees, but any attempt by the employee aimed at the casino for an exploit will be quickly observed and avoided by the casino except they are having a weak and low security network to ensure that, making an exploitation i nothing than abusing the platform for no reason and any attempt on this if deduced will lead to negative consequences, they aren't exploiting from us and we should not feels like they do.

The OP is pertaining to a successful exploit happened during 2014. He is claiming that he successfully exploit a casino without any evidence to back it. I’m befuddled on the purpose of this thread because what is the purpose of AMA for an incident that is not proven by the OP. Usually those who have known credibility do AMA because people guarantee that the person who will answer it is credible.

Commenting on your remarks about casino can’t be exploited, there’s recent incidents which casino was exploited while both of them is very reputable. Any casino or services online in general can be exploited through different form of attacks.

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I don't think the casinos can be exploited as well as the employees, but any attempt by the employee aimed at the casino for an exploit will be quickly observed and avoided by the casino except they are having a weak and low security network to ensure that, making an exploitation i nothing than abusing the platform for no reason and any attempt on this if deduced will lead to negative consequences, they aren't exploiting from us and we should not feels like they do.

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Quote from: livingfree on February 23, 2024, 03:24:36 PM

Reading the thread, it seems that he has already sacrificed his privacy but he's still under the impression of talking under an alias with his past.

It is all connected while reading the whole story so, there's a possibility that it may be for real. If he's just making a story and just trolling around, he's got a lot of time for it but there's no benefit for him.

It's probably just all about remembering the past and how he's able to exploit it with a lot of money, no gain for him for making this thread.

Supposing this story is actually true, I believe that it's not that hard to connect the dots and find the incident and the suspect, if the OP is actually responsible for it, his privacy has already been compromised, just like you said. Anyway, from how I see things, chances are that the OP is trolling and messing around to gain attention. No sane person would hop on a forum and brag about how he illegally exploited millions of dollars; it would raise suspicions and possibly lead to an investigation against him.

I know that bragging on the open about your past criminal activities do not really makes a lot of sense to us, but a great deal of criminals are caught precisely because they cannot keep quiet about what they did and they want to share their stories with others, then eventually one of those persons that heard the story get in trouble and they use the information they know to try to reduce or completely eliminate any charges that may have come their way.

Well, I'd reckon most folks ain't got criminal minds. The reasons criminals do stuff can be kinda screwy and, well, pretty dumb. For some outlaws showin' off is like a twisted trophy or a way to impress their "crew." its almost like their brains are wired different, not carin' 'bout right and wrong. Like what happened to the OP in this story. Just doin' the crime wasnt enough no more - he had to shoot his mouth off 'bout it just to feel that rush again. Addicts chase that next fix the same way.

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Quote from: Wiwo on February 23, 2024, 03:52:13 PM

Quote from: joeperry on February 22, 2024, 10:14:42 PM

This is an interesting story but would you be able to provide some proofs to us? Some people might have think that this is not good conversation but I think there's no harm on it if it happened 10 years ago, I'm pretty sure gambling sites already solved that exploit and managed to improve their security. I was curious what kind of exploit you've found and how would you be able to withdraw that money if you've made millions? I assume you also deposit a big amount and what kind of casino is that?

I think it came from third party casino games as those are the ones that are vulnerable from exploit.

This member can not prove anything to you or the other members of the forum, and also he have exhibited a strong sign of not good to be trusted since he come out openly to say he want to render service on how to abuse a casino, and requesting members to contact him privately, this story may not likely to be truth and even if it is true I am not interested in him sharing any details about the exploit since I am not interested in it because at the end you will run into problem with the casino that you exploit.

And also the ops complain about how the casino treats their employees, but left for me, if they are not ok with the condition of work, they could easily resign and best the work goodbye, and that doesn't call for the abuse not to be reported or sponsoring a campaign of exploiting them with the bug that is discovered.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on February 23, 2024, 03:32:09 PM

Quote from: livingfree on February 23, 2024, 03:24:36 PM

Reading the thread, it seems that he has already sacrificed his privacy but he's still under the impression of talking under an alias with his past.

It is all connected while reading the whole story so, there's a possibility that it may be for real. If he's just making a story and just trolling around, he's got a lot of time for it but there's no benefit for him.

It's probably just all about remembering the past and how he's able to exploit it with a lot of money, no gain for him for making this thread.

Supposing this story is actually true, I believe that it's not that hard to connect the dots and find the incident and the suspect, if the OP is actually responsible for it, his privacy has already been compromised, just like you said. Anyway, from how I see things, chances are that the OP is trolling and messing around to gain attention. No sane person would hop on a forum and brag about how he illegally exploited millions of dollars; it would raise suspicions and possibly lead to an investigation against him.

I know that bragging on the open about your past criminal activities do not really makes a lot of sense to us, but a great deal of criminals are caught precisely because they cannot keep quiet about what they did and they want to share their stories with others, then eventually one of those persons that heard the story get in trouble and they use the information they know to try to reduce or completely eliminate any charges that may have come their way.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on February 23, 2024, 03:32:09 PM

Quote from: livingfree on February 23, 2024, 03:24:36 PM

Reading the thread, it seems that he has already sacrificed his privacy but he's still under the impression of talking under an alias with his past.

It is all connected while reading the whole story so, there's a possibility that it may be for real. If he's just making a story and just trolling around, he's got a lot of time for it but there's no benefit for him.

It's probably just all about remembering the past and how he's able to exploit it with a lot of money, no gain for him for making this thread.

Supposing this story is actually true, I believe that it's not that hard to connect the dots and find the incident and the suspect, if the OP is actually responsible for it, his privacy has already been compromised, just like you said. Anyway, from how I see things, chances are that the OP is trolling and messing around to gain attention. No sane person would hop on a forum and brag about how he illegally exploited millions of dollars; it would raise suspicions and possibly lead to an investigation against him.

That's what I am thinking too. If you know that the casino you exploited has the leads of you and have probably the IP address when you're part of the testing group.

The tendency is big if they pursue the guy not unless that person really has concealed even his IP address. But, this type of case isn't a thing to brag about.

A lot of questions that he can answer on this thread but it's up to him if he's going to answer all of them.

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For the sake of discussion, why did you start this thread then?

Honestly, this is why I find this hard to buy along with the amount of fake stories on this forum. I can't think of any reason big enough that makes refreshing people's memory worth a try. Of course, there's always a chance someone's not in the best place when it comes to making decisions but I'd be leaning towards the most likely in this one.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on February 23, 2024, 08:18:17 AM

OP is not here to provide any service, or join in earning from the forum through a signature ad campaign since he already got more than a million dollar and have retired, so, ban-evading is nothing.

And besides, if I was him, I possibly would have done exactly same thing, which is, register a new account to share this type of information, for there could be a million ways to trace back to who he is if he had used his main account - trust users of this forum on that, most especially, if he had done the wallet signing most of us do for the security of our accounts, or participate in a signature or bounty campaign in the past, wallet address he used for this activities can easily be tracked or traced, and by so doing, there could be a way to find a link to his current wallet where the stolen funds are held, and this could jeopardize everything for the op.

If I was op, assuming all he said here is true, I would not have bothered creating this thread, it's absolutely not necessary.

The acclaimed millions that the ops mentioned in the post may be a way to attract members into contacting him, and he may not have won anything at all, what I think the ops want to do is to deceive people who are greedy and looking for a way to cheat to gain who may reach out to the ops and at the end he demand for them to pay a certain amount in fees to be able to have access to his so-called formula which at the end may end up to be a lie and scam at such.

I don't believe any casino will allow a bug to exist in the system for so long to the point that a player will exploit it to make such a huge amount of winning using the bug to cheat the casino system.

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Quote from: pahahaha on February 12, 2024, 05:02:14 PM

~snip~

2. I never felt guilt or wanted to return the money. Casino is a very shady business and the owners of these platforms dont care about their players or their losses and will do anything to milk their customers out of their last dollar. So i feel no sympathy. I outplayed them at their own game.

~snip~

Taking advantage of their system is one thing, but not feeling guilty at all is a very bad sign.. Wink

You did not outplay them at their own game, you abused a bug instead of reporting. That I personally consider cheating/stealing. And it doesn't matter whom you're stealing from or whose system you're abusing, it's just not right and nothing justifies such behaviour.

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Those actions were unethical and against the law and shouldn't be praised here. If someone thinks the casino takes advantage of players, they shouldn't play. Abusing the casino didnt support the other players at all - it only helped that one abuser.

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Quote from: joeperry on February 22, 2024, 10:14:42 PM

This is an interesting story but would you be able to provide some proofs to us? Some people might have think that this is not good conversation but I think there's no harm on it if it happened 10 years ago, I'm pretty sure gambling sites already solved that exploit and managed to improve their security. I was curious what kind of exploit you've found and how would you be able to withdraw that money if you've made millions? I assume you also deposit a big amount and what kind of casino is that?

I think it came from third party casino games as those are the ones that are vulnerable from exploit.

This member can not prove anything to you or the other members of the forum, and also he have exhibited a strong sign of not good to be trusted since he come out openly to say he want to render service on how to abuse a casino, and requesting members to contact him privately, this story may not likely to be truth and even if it is true I am not interested in him sharing any details about the exploit since I am not interested in it because at the end you will run into problem with the casino that you exploit.

And also the ops complain about how the casino treats their employees, but left for me, if they are not ok with the condition of work, they could easily resign and best the work goodbye, and that doesn't call for the abuse not to be reported or sponsoring a campaign of exploiting them with the bug that is discovered.

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Quote from: pahahaha on February 14, 2024, 06:41:23 PM

Thanks for the contribution to the thread.

I don’t know much about evolution games tactics and how their games function, but i would never bet on any of those games and expect them to be fair. What i do know for a FACT that evolution games treats their employees like shit, they dont take care of them, they get overworked + low wages and overall the situation is not that good at their work place. That being said i would never trust them with a single dollar.

They are 100% fair, believe me, they can't hire so many magicians in poor countries, there is a huge control mechanism, cameras everywhere, floor supervisors, service managers, security and etc... Btw I don't want to speak for their favor but they don't treat employees like shit, no, working environment is good and you rest between 1-2 hours in 8 hour shift and they pay it. Btw wages are low, that's true. Evolution employees usually say that they are treated like shit because they have a wrong imagination about the European working environment and think that they should have a 30 minute break after every 1.5 hours.

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Quote from: livingfree on February 23, 2024, 03:24:36 PM

Reading the thread, it seems that he has already sacrificed his privacy but he's still under the impression of talking under an alias with his past.

It is all connected while reading the whole story so, there's a possibility that it may be for real. If he's just making a story and just trolling around, he's got a lot of time for it but there's no benefit for him.

It's probably just all about remembering the past and how he's able to exploit it with a lot of money, no gain for him for making this thread.

Supposing this story is actually true, I believe that it's not that hard to connect the dots and find the incident and the suspect, if the OP is actually responsible for it, his privacy has already been compromised, just like you said. Anyway, from how I see things, chances are that the OP is trolling and messing around to gain attention. No sane person would hop on a forum and brag about how he illegally exploited millions of dollars; it would raise suspicions and possibly lead to an investigation against him.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on February 23, 2024, 04:29:42 AM

Isn't he already risking his privacy by posting on a public forum bragging about an exploit he abused in the past? I do find the story hard to believe, but we've all seen similar examples of casinos being exploited due to loopholes and bugs in their games, so I'm not going to claim that he's lying because I cannot prove that either. I'm not expecting the OP to provide evidence either, for obvious reasons. For those mentioning why he's not using his real account even though he claims he wasn't active for years, from how I see things, there might be some ties to lead back to him. Even though that's not really the point, what difference does it make if he's ban-evading or not?

Reading the thread, it seems that he has already sacrificed his privacy but he's still under the impression of talking under an alias with his past.

It is all connected while reading the whole story so, there's a possibility that it may be for real. If he's just making a story and just trolling around, he's got a lot of time for it but there's no benefit for him.

It's probably just all about remembering the past and how he's able to exploit it with a lot of money, no gain for him for making this thread.

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I’m not impressed with your dishonesty and flagrant abuse of supposed high-tech computer skills you have. What you did is a crime which certainly has no place being glorified on this forum.

In all honesty I hope you get arrested for what you did. I certainly will not be asking you anything.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on February 12, 2024, 12:30:36 PM

If you don't have access to the old account, you should atleast remember your username right? And also the email address you used to sign up the account.
Now, let's assume you've also lost access to the email address, but you still remember your forum account username, you could reach to to theymos to see if he can help your restore your old account back.
And besides, how do you expect us to believe that you are telling us the truth here, can you please tell us the username to your old account?

That is too much of a process, creating a new account if the person does not intend to rank up or join any paying campaign is more convenient than going through the process. Besides @OP is probably bored and wanted to conduct an interesting conversation that may probably he can take advantage of.

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on February 23, 2024, 11:47:03 AM

Let's even assume that casino employees are exploited, is that a justification enough for someone else outside the casino to exploit the casino? I think "No" is the right answer, I personally can maybe understand if..
1. The casino exploited is actually exploiting her employees
2. That the person who carried out the exploit on the casino is an employee of the same casino.

They can be exploited by outside force.

1. if the casino employee is a lover of the person who wants to exploit the casino
2. If the casino employee is promised of certain gain.
Even if the employee is not abused by the casino owner there are certainly things that can make them agree to be a tool and get exploited.

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The fact that the casino loses a big amount doesn't hurt employees, it doesn't mean they will earn less. It only hurt the casino owners who have to wait some time to recover that part of the bankroll.

True especially when the casino is just starting out. For a well-established casino, I think it will take a longer time before the casino feels the effect of those exploits but eventually, the casino will give in and the employee will be affected when they lose their job due to the casino shutting down.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on February 23, 2024, 11:23:25 AM

Quote from: Kakmakr on February 15, 2024, 12:45:02 AM

Now, here is the conundrum.... do we justify exploiting casinos and taking away from their profits, because they might be exploiting their employees?

Are casino employees really exploited? I don't think so.

In my personal experience, I worked for casinos in the past, 5 years in one casino and 1 year in another casino, and never felt exploited by them, the deal was 8h/day and 6days/week, but the payment wasn't bad, so, it was a nice job and fair deal for all.

Let's even assume that casino employees are exploited, is that a justification enough for someone else outside the casino to exploit the casino? I think "No" is the right answer, I personally can maybe understand if..
1. The casino exploited is actually exploiting her employees
2. That the person who carried out the exploit on the casino is an employee of the same casino.

Anything else outside of this is absolutely no justification at all.

Quote from: Kakmakr on February 15, 2024, 12:45:02 AM

Is this not also hurting the employees? Those profits ends up paying the employee salaries and bonuses and overtime.

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The fact that the casino loses a big amount doesn't hurt employees, it doesn't mean they will earn less. It only hurt the casino owners who have to wait sometime to recover that part of the bankroll.

Well, I would say that it depends on how big the casino is, and what type of employees the casino have, when a small and growing casino is exploited, the owners might have to lay off some workers in order to cut down on expenses for a quicker recovery, those workers layed are surely not going to be happy even if they are paid their full salary before letting them go.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on February 15, 2024, 12:45:02 AM

Now, here is the conundrum.... do we justify exploiting casinos and taking away from their profits, because they might be exploiting their employees?

Are casino employees really exploited? I don't think so.

In my personal experience, I worked for casinos in the past, 5 years in one casino and 1 year in another casino, and never felt exploited by them, the deal was 8h/day and 6days/week, but the payment wasn't bad, so, it was a nice job and fair deal for all.

Quote from: Kakmakr on February 15, 2024, 12:45:02 AM

Is this not also hurting the employees? Those profits ends up paying the employee salaries and bonuses and overtime.

The fact that the casino loses a big amount doesn't hurt employees, it doesn't mean they will earn less. It only hurt the casino owners who have to wait sometime to recover that part of the bankroll.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on February 23, 2024, 08:18:17 AM

OP is not here to provide any service, or join in earning from the forum through a signature ad campaign since he already got more than a million dollar and have retired, so, ban-evading is nothing.

Then am sure he is up to something for coming back or saying this directly to some particular set of people which i believe they know themselves, he may not actually be referring to being banned, but i think he left that time when it happened that he narrowly escaped an opportunity that led to his boom blast on financial fortune, and i don't think his coming back is on anything than to remind others of the past ordeal which he encounter for his breakthrough or maybe otherwise as the case may be.

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