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October 03, 2017, 09:41:01 AM
#24
Yes some major currencies are losing short-term value so also will bitcoin loose short-term value but it to strength the bullish of bitcoin market and if you can recollect some dip usually happen this time very year before the all time high price of bitcoin occur.
legendary
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October 03, 2017, 04:34:11 AM
#23
It would be too early to speak before time takes place when such decisions will really matter. Everyone knows that a fork is about to happen, so your instinct indicating you of something to occur is not indicating anything new yet. Some significant decisions are yet to be taken by the miners and they might be the reason why alts are losing over to Bitcoins and BTC is gaining strength. If we won't be getting any free coins after the hard fork, I don't understand why are they using the brand "Bitcoins" ahead of their so-called invention namely Gold?
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October 03, 2017, 01:47:55 AM
#22
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We are not getting free coins because there is no replay protection in this hard fork. Moving Segwit2x/btc1 coins will be replayed in the real chain and you would lose your real Bitcoins.

it is very easy to protect against replay attack though. you just have to spend a little more time.
it involves a pretty basic set of things:
- using locktime
- using RBF
- creating two sets of transaction for two different chains.
one chain will inevitably be faster, you get your transaction confirmed on the faster chain and then immediately spend the transaction on the other chain. since you used locktime and the faster chain will be ahead of the slower chain the tx on the faster chain is not yet valid on the slower (behind chain) so you create a new tx (RBF helps here) and have your coin in a different key.
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October 03, 2017, 01:03:19 AM
#21
Well, say straight.
What do you think is coming?

I'm kinda confused, but would bet on a uptrend (on everything worthy).

Long term speaking, there is only one way for this market, and that's only up. Short term speaking, the only obstacle that stands in the way of this growth is the hard fork in November. It's impossible to put it aside like it doesn't matter, and due to the uncertainties connected to such an event, I am expecting anything between $3000 and $4000 till we know how everything plays out. I prefer to not do anything at this point, but might start increasing my positions if the market falls well below the $3500 level.

That's what worries me the most in the first place.

Why would that worry you? We are still in a long term uptrend. Any dip in price, hopefully below the $3500 level as mentioned, would be another opportunity for us to buy more coins.

I think the same as you, market can go in both directions in this month, and we all are holding our coins before the new fork on november.. this is not for being greedy, but i do want to receive some free coins, and i think that there is nothing wrong with that. anyway, bitcoin is always unpredictable, and currencies play a major role in the price of it, so we can not expect anything from it, just lets wait for news.

Getting some free coins is not the only good reason to hang on to what you've got just before the fork.  It's also a good hedge in case the unexpected happens (although I'm not even sure at the moment which is the expected outcome and which is the unexpected one).  As long as you have both sets of coins, whichever "wins" after the fork, you're covered.

We are not getting free coins because there is no replay protection in this hard fork. Moving Segwit2x/btc1 coins will be replayed in the real chain and you would lose your real Bitcoins.
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October 03, 2017, 01:01:34 AM
#20
Getting some free coins is ...
A fork does not give you free coins, the value doesn't come from nothing. It comes from the original coins you had, and the higher the value of the Forkcoin, the lower the value of your original coin gets. Even if both go up, that means it would have been higher without fork.

Read this: Bitcoin Cash Is Not Free Money
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October 03, 2017, 01:00:24 AM
#19
Hey guys,

As the title says - I've noticed something strange. Some major currencies are losing short-term value (not only against EUR/USD/GBP/name_your_currency), but against Bitcoin as well. I believe we can expect two things:

1. Bitcoin will skyrocket.
2. Incoming dump.

Reading my thoughts this way looks hilarious, but "myself know what I mean". We've seen this before, but I'm pretty sure something is about to happen.

What are your thoughts?
There is nothing strange if thinking about there (usd, eur, gbp, my name curency RP),all real currency down which rose only not real currency like BTC.I don'tt know what I say but I know what I mean like that,real money seems to be worthless when compared to BTC.
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October 03, 2017, 12:41:16 AM
#18
Well, say straight.
What do you think is coming?

I'm kinda confused, but would bet on a uptrend (on everything worthy).

Long term speaking, there is only one way for this market, and that's only up. Short term speaking, the only obstacle that stands in the way of this growth is the hard fork in November. It's impossible to put it aside like it doesn't matter, and due to the uncertainties connected to such an event, I am expecting anything between $3000 and $4000 till we know how everything plays out. I prefer to not do anything at this point, but might start increasing my positions if the market falls well below the $3500 level.

The previous hardfork surprised the hell out of everybody. Nobody could believe that the price would take off after the split. The November fork is a lot more contentious. The date is pretty close and people are still talking about whether there will be replay protection.

there was nothing surprising about that fork actually!
the fork itself was planed ahead and we finally got rid of the attackers, even if for a short time. and the price went up because we got rid of them and also additionally because that fork was at the same time with activation of SegWit or have you forgotten that Smiley
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October 03, 2017, 12:25:37 AM
#17
Well, say straight.
What do you think is coming?

I'm kinda confused, but would bet on a uptrend (on everything worthy).

Long term speaking, there is only one way for this market, and that's only up. Short term speaking, the only obstacle that stands in the way of this growth is the hard fork in November. It's impossible to put it aside like it doesn't matter, and due to the uncertainties connected to such an event, I am expecting anything between $3000 and $4000 till we know how everything plays out. I prefer to not do anything at this point, but might start increasing my positions if the market falls well below the $3500 level.

The previous hardfork surprised the hell out of everybody. Nobody could believe that the price would take off after the split. The November fork is a lot more contentious. The date is pretty close and people are still talking about whether there will be replay protection.
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October 02, 2017, 11:18:25 PM
#16
I'd say that the uptrend will continue well into the end of the year at least. We'll probably see new all time highs being set for bitcoin in the process, and potentially break $6k or even $7k barrier.

After that, i think that it is likely we'll experience an adjustment and profit takers start dumping. We simply cannot go bullish forever. Years in between halving are usually actually quite bearish for bitcoin or simply sideways movements.

I think it will continue to grow as it has been for the last year or so. We rocket up, pullback, consolidate, climb up slowly, etc. There is SO much money flowing into cryptos, everyone wants in. Goldman Sachs, 65 crypto hedge funds, bitcoinira (is seeing explosive growth, ~$32 million within a 5 day period a few weeks back).
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October 02, 2017, 11:03:01 PM
#15
I'd say that price will probably skyrocket before a dump.

Probably we're going to see incoming an all time high once again, to the tune of $5500-$6000. However after that the price could plummet to around $3500-4000 just because of natural market fluctuation and people panic dumping when the candles stay red for a few days.
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October 02, 2017, 10:50:08 PM
#14
I'd say that the uptrend will continue well into the end of the year at least. We'll probably see new all time highs being set for bitcoin in the process, and potentially break $6k or even $7k barrier.

After that, i think that it is likely we'll experience an adjustment and profit takers start dumping. We simply cannot go bullish forever. Years in between halving are usually actually quite bearish for bitcoin or simply sideways movements.
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October 02, 2017, 10:37:50 PM
#13
I think the same as you, market can go in both directions in this month, and we all are holding our coins before the new fork on november.. this is not for being greedy, but i do want to receive some free coins, and i think that there is nothing wrong with that. anyway, bitcoin is always unpredictable, and currencies play a major role in the price of it, so we can not expect anything from it, just lets wait for news.

Getting some free coins is not the only good reason to hang on to what you've got just before the fork.  It's also a good hedge in case the unexpected happens (although I'm not even sure at the moment which is the expected outcome and which is the unexpected one).  As long as you have both sets of coins, whichever "wins" after the fork, you're covered.
legendary
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October 02, 2017, 05:37:42 PM
#12
I think the same as you, market can go in both directions in this month, and we all are holding our coins before the new fork on november.. this is not for being greedy, but i do want to receive some free coins, and i think that there is nothing wrong with that. anyway, bitcoin is always unpredictable, and currencies play a major role in the price of it, so we can not expect anything from it, just lets wait for news.
legendary
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@FAILCommunity
October 02, 2017, 05:27:19 PM
#11
Well, say straight.
What do you think is coming?

I'm kinda confused, but would bet on a uptrend (on everything worthy).

Long term speaking, there is only one way for this market, and that's only up. Short term speaking, the only obstacle that stands in the way of this growth is the hard fork in November. It's impossible to put it aside like it doesn't matter, and due to the uncertainties connected to such an event, I am expecting anything between $3000 and $4000 till we know how everything plays out. I prefer to not do anything at this point, but might start increasing my positions if the market falls well below the $3500 level.

That's what worries me the most in the first place.
legendary
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October 02, 2017, 05:20:24 PM
#10
Well, say straight.
What do you think is coming?

I'm kinda confused, but would bet on a uptrend (on everything worthy).

Long term speaking, there is only one way for this market, and that's only up. Short term speaking, the only obstacle that stands in the way of this growth is the hard fork in November. It's impossible to put it aside like it doesn't matter, and due to the uncertainties connected to such an event, I am expecting anything between $3000 and $4000 till we know how everything plays out. I prefer to not do anything at this point, but might start increasing my positions if the market falls well below the $3500 level.
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October 02, 2017, 03:59:42 PM
#9
Or maybe the whales want to sell at a high price now to people who want btc-gold&co.
But if the price increases by $1000 people do not buy because BTC-gold&co hardly be hundreds $.
sr. member
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October 02, 2017, 03:35:49 PM
#8
Well I will go with number 1 and to be honest I do not see anything strange here ! And the reason I am going with number one is because it is already happening BTC up around $500 in the last couple of days that is not rocket but is also not small % .
legendary
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@FAILCommunity
October 02, 2017, 03:33:45 PM
#7
Well, say straight.
What do you think is coming?

I'm kinda confused, but would bet on a uptrend (on everything worthy).
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October 02, 2017, 03:23:22 PM
#6
Well, say straight.
What do you think is coming?

Edit: Now people are not afraid of the hard fork.
Are greedy. They want btc-gold & co.

Whales can not take them  BTC.
But after the fork people will sell. Why be the high price then? Be to the detriment of whales? It's not logical.
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@FAILCommunity
October 02, 2017, 03:16:08 PM
#5
I believe we can expect two things:

1. Bitcoin will skyrocket.
2. Incoming dump.
Basically you're saying it can go both ways, nothing new there Cheesy

You're right, but both ways means Bitcoin and altcoins. Looks like "investors" are packing up for a Bitcoin's uptrend, but there is another side of the story - TA and expectations are not always applied to cryptrocurrencies. Which means some craziness is about to happen, at least in my views.
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